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[Pavowski]

Also, yeet.

[Bowser Jr.]

Dear bell

I don’t have the same time for games I used to

Love notty

[Icebox]

Dear bell

I don’t have the same time for games I used to

Love notty

Fine.

Dear Pav,
Wisdom's approach to you makes perfect sense for scum him to do.
He doesn't need to get his hands dirty. You die anyway. Win/Win.

-Bell

[Dunnstral]

Did you guys read what I said

Why does scum Pav loverize a buddy and a townie instead of two townies

Why not though?

It does generally make a scumbuddy less likely to be eliminated. Loverising two town is like getting an extra kill, but so is loverizing a buddy and town in the event that the buddy is eliminated. Plus it's less suspicious for Galron to do that?

I agree that overally loverizing scum+town has less scum likelihood than loverizing town+town, but I still think that the way Pav went about it is suspicious and not consistent with a town approach.

Also there are limited scum options from my perspective and Pav is still a reasonably likely one.
I would totally vote Enchant instead if you think though.

I think you are right and loverizing town and scum as scum isn't as big of a deal as we were thinking

[Wisdom]

Bell the back and forth you are seeing is because I began making conclusions based on assumptions that later changed (For example I was positive Pav loverized you after the guilty), and thus didnt think clearly about whether Pav's role actually makes him scum

Same went for my timeline of what happened to you

[Enchant]

God forbid me from replacing into big games.

I basically don't want open this game.

[Enchant]

About Loverizer.

For mafia, there's totally no reason to loverize scum, because loverising two townies always more benefiting. One kill when scum elimmed, nah. Why, if you can kill two ppl and actually DECIDE when you want kill them.

[Enchant]

Like literally, if mafia wants to be suicidal, they can as well start claiming Cops with guiltys and achieve same results.

[Titus]

GL is wholly unpersuaded by the mechanical argument. He sees no reason to loverize Icebox if town. He thinks Pav has contributed nothing. He was very clear that

Pav is never to live until ELO.

.

He also says he cannot remember the case against DV. That's a bad case for him flipping scum.

GL made like 10 posts on these points.

[Titus]

VOTE: Wisdom

Something is off.

What about a Pav Wisdom team?

I feel Wisdom is leaning awfully hard into a mech clear when mech can just as easily select the opposite.

[Skybird]

I know people have pretty much been ignoring CoF because she will die tonight, supposedly. But do we have any confirmation of this? I've been looking at her iso and I'm not seeing much that says town to me. The claim was weird. What are the chances she is scum?

[Off The Hook]

I know people have pretty much been ignoring CoF because she will die tonight, supposedly. But do we have any confirmation of this? I've been looking at her iso and I'm not seeing much that says town to me. The claim was weird. What are the chances she is scum?

I feel like they might be, but either CoF is telling the truth in which case they die, or they lied as a ploy to buy time.

-GE

[Skybird]

Buy time for what though? Are you online now Gamma?

[Skybird]

DV posted in our neighborhood that he thought if CoF was scum, you are probably scum as well.

[Off The Hook]

That seems like a horrible take, CoF has been pushing us basically all game.

-GE

[Dunnstral]

I know people have pretty much been ignoring CoF because she will die tonight, supposedly. But do we have any confirmation of this? I've been looking at her iso and I'm not seeing much that says town to me. The claim was weird. What are the chances she is scum?

We're at day 3 already anyway, I don't see much sense in looking at CoF before tomorrow if they are still alive

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 3-8

DeasVail

(4): Pavowski, Off The Hook, Wisdom, Lukewarm

Off The Hook

(3): Dunnstral, Child of Fairies, Lady Lambdadelta

Pavowski

(3): DeasVail, Enchant, Titus

Lady Lambdadelta

(1): Bowser Jr.

Wisdom

(1): Icebox

Not Voting

(1): Skybird

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Deadline: November 23, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2021-11-23 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[DeasVail]

DV posted in our neighborhood that he thought if CoF was scum, you are probably scum as well.

I can see why this was the interpretation of my post, but it is also a strange interpretation and a strange thing to post here.

I also think that it is worth following GuiltyLion on this vote today.

[Skybird]

How is it strange? It's a paraphrase of what you said.

[Skybird]

VOTE: DV

We need to decide which way we are going. We have a little more than a day left.

[Lukewarm]

That puts dv at e-2

[Lukewarm]

DV posted in our neighborhood that he thought if CoF was scum, you are probably scum as well.

I can see why this was the interpretation of my post, but it is also a strange interpretation and a strange thing to post here.

I also think that it is worth following GuiltyLion on this vote today.

What did you actually mean, if that is not what you meant - instead of just saying it is wrong, when no one else can go look at it

[Lukewarm]

@skybird, did he explain why he linked the two, or did he just make the claim with nothing, or?

[Bowser Jr.]

DV is also my preferred vote. Won’t put him at E-1 but we have less than 48 hours.

~Spiffy

[Skybird]

I had asked for his thoughts on CoF and he said she was strong town. I questioned that because I didn't remember much from her iso. He said he would explain more later. Next he said CoF wasn't as town as he thought. He didn't think she was scum with Galron unless also scum with OTH.