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[JacksonVirgo]

Sniped

[Dwlee99]

Choke on my town flip

[Dwlee99]

I'm not voting you because other people don't want to. They want to leave you alive for some reason. You should be already out of the game imo but whatever hopefully andres will shoot you

[JacksonVirgo]

Since when should you ignore a scum-read because of your own self image.

[Dwlee99]

It isn't about my image, it's about consolidation wtf

[JacksonVirgo]

It isn't about my image, it's about consolidation wtf

The way you voted was not about consolidation, you would have said something along those lines when you voted but nope you shaded STD instead.

You are opportunistic and it's sad.

[Three]

JV you literally called us all stupid for voting you and now you're calling Dwlee scum because they're no longer voting you.

[JacksonVirgo]

JV you literally called us all stupid for voting you and now you're calling Dwlee scum because they're no longer voting you.

I called y'all stupid just because I was venting, not that I disagree with the read on me as I did push against a scum-flip technically but that does not excuse that they're not even consistant with their "reads". They want me dead so bad but nothing points to that.

They even say that if they were vig they would not have even shot me, like u wot m8.

Spoiler:

I don't really want JV to endgame though, so am fine killing him now

I could see it be frustrated scum kind of just throwing in the towel.

But eh, we can do this

VOTE: Andres

I wish I had vigilante powers

I would always shoot scum smh

And to whoever said that RCE was a bad shot - screw you. The guy was defending Kyouko by calling them aimless Scum and joined that wagon super late when it looked inevitable. Yeah I though about shooting JacksonVirgo but I read them as Town and their reaction here makes me think they’re Town still.

It was a bad shot sorry my guy

UNVOTE:

And to whoever said that RCE was a bad shot - screw you. The guy was defending Kyouko by calling them aimless Scum and joined that wagon super late when it looked inevitable. Yeah I though about shooting JacksonVirgo but I read them as Town and their reaction here makes me think they’re Town still.

It was a bad shot sorry my guy

UNVOTE:

You would have shot Jackson who is Town so haha

I probably would have shot alice, actually

STD is... in this game?

VOTE: Save the Dragons

Where's the consistency.

[JacksonVirgo]

Albeit I also said it's stupid because I have information y'all don't, my alignment. It's more of a "I am telling you that I am disagreeing with you all" kind of thing.

[Three]

Or maybe you jump to conclusions without thinking. Definitely hasn't happened before. Nah never

This is now relevant.

[JacksonVirgo]

Or maybe you jump to conclusions without thinking. Definitely hasn't happened before. Nah never

This is now relevant.

Could you explain why now of all times?

[JacksonVirgo]

I think I know I just don't want to give you ideas as to what to put lmaoo

[Three]

JV you literally called us all stupid for voting you and now you're calling Dwlee scum because they're no longer voting you.

I called y'all stupid just because I was venting, not that I disagree with the read on me as I did push against a scum-flip technically but that does not excuse that they're not even consistant with their "reads". They want me dead so bad but nothing points to that.

They even say that if they were vig they would not have even shot me, like u wot m8.

Spoiler:

I don't really want JV to endgame though, so am fine killing him now

I could see it be frustrated scum kind of just throwing in the towel.

But eh, we can do this

VOTE: Andres

I wish I had vigilante powers

I would always shoot scum smh

And to whoever said that RCE was a bad shot - screw you. The guy was defending Kyouko by calling them aimless Scum and joined that wagon super late when it looked inevitable. Yeah I though about shooting JacksonVirgo but I read them as Town and their reaction here makes me think they’re Town still.

It was a bad shot sorry my guy

UNVOTE:

And to whoever said that RCE was a bad shot - screw you. The guy was defending Kyouko by calling them aimless Scum and joined that wagon super late when it looked inevitable. Yeah I though about shooting JacksonVirgo but I read them as Town and their reaction here makes me think they’re Town still.

It was a bad shot sorry my guy

UNVOTE:

You would have shot Jackson who is Town so haha

I probably would have shot alice, actually

STD is... in this game?

VOTE: Save the Dragons

Where's the consistency.

Dwlee was clearly venting that we should've just flash wagon'd you when we had the chance, since not doing so resulted in the real Vig getting outted. And now you're scum reading them for swapping to StD instead of continuing to push you when your lim clearly isn't happening at this point.

Like, at this point I'm somewhat convinced that you're town from your responses to everything. But you're very misguided in who you keep attacking, it's really hard to imagine Dwlee is scum here since the Kyo bus would've been unnecessary and they've been fairly aggressive and solvey all game. The things you're attacking them for are just flimsy and contradict what you were venting out beforehand.

I genuinely believe that the rest of the scum team would be more likely to try to lay low and hide within the inactive slots. That's where I'd rather look right now. I actually have a case on someone sitting in my drafts but I'm waiting to see if they pick up their prod first.

[Three]

Or maybe you jump to conclusions without thinking. Definitely hasn't happened before. Nah never

This is now relevant.

Could you explain why now of all times?

I think I know I just don't want to give you ideas as to what to put lmaoo

I think you're jumping to conclusions without thinking things through.

[Three]

This is frustrating. Now I really want to take a look at all the people who kept insisting NM was the vig because that was entirely stupid. Even if NM were the vig, they shouldn't have drawn attention to it and the more attention, the more likely vig is to actually feel the need to correct them and cc. I've just scum read all the pr's this game like a genius. I wish Andres hadn't claimed but I probably wouldn't have backed off today if not for it so that's frustrating.

NM's claim was very clearly a meme claim. The only thing to consider is are his reads really this bad?
I'm having doubts on Three because he was the one constantly saying NM was vig which was ridiculous and without extra information or a different wincon, shouldn't be something to draw attention to.

I don't have anything else at the moment.

I've already addressed this in past posts. Biggest takeaway though is that it literally didn't matter if NM was actually Vig or not because the situation resolves itself. Obviously the Jailkeeper had to die first, but NM would've been shot tonight and we'd know if he was telling the truth or not then.

Honestly I don't understand the logic of having doubts on me just because I chose to believe NM was telling the truth. How would that be alignment indicative? And are you suggesting I bussed Kyo instead of letting the A50 or RC wagons go through? Because uh, Mafia Doctor was definitely the most valuable role on the scum team and I easily could've saved Kyo.

The thing is that it was a clear meme claim and even if it weren't, drawing attention to it gives town zero benefits whatsoever. NM dies and flips vig. Is that what you wanted when you posted that NM would self resolve? Like it's just a bad idea.

Actually, the Mafia Watcher is the most valuable role. It can find the prs. Vig is neg utility and the shot can easily be controlled to a certain extent. Anything that is a could've is not provable.

What do you think would happen if we all just ignored NM's claim? Scum's strategy does not change no matter how much we discuss whether or not we believe it. You're acting like this is some kind of Schrodinger's Cat situation, NM being Vig or getting NK'd is never dependent on whether I discuss it or believe it.

Also, Watcher definitely isn't useful when two out of three PRs are outed Day 1. The Vig just speeds the game up for us by getting rid of scummy slots and providing extra info through flips. Which is absolutely a God send considering how slow this game has been.

[JacksonVirgo]

Or maybe you jump to conclusions without thinking. Definitely hasn't happened before. Nah never

This is now relevant.

Could you explain why now of all times?

I think I know I just don't want to give you ideas as to what to put lmaoo

I think you're jumping to conclusions without thinking things through.

Maybe, maybe not it doesn't change my read.

[Almost50]

I’m going to shoot Aaron actually.

VOTE: Andres

[Almost50]

Or maybe I’ll shoot AliceK. Or Ythan. I don’t know - we’ll see.

VOTE: JV

[Not_Mafia]

Stop bickering and let's eliminate Ythan

[AliceK]

I haven’t had enough time to play this game.

I’m the Vig. This is a hard CC. You can unvote me now.

We can either execute NotMafia and then you can let me shoot, or we can execute elsewhere and then I’ll shoot somewhere and then I’ll obviously get shot by the Scum and you guys can keep playing.

Interesting. Yeah, I actually figured out that vig was probably on RC wagon and shot wasn't coming from N_M.

[AliceK]

VOTE: SaveTheDragons

There are three people (or 4 if we count N_M) lurking in this game: Ythan, ILUVYTHAN and SaveTheDragons. Why you picked him? Or was it random.

[AliceK]

And to whoever said that RCE was a bad shot - screw you. The guy was defending Kyouko by calling them aimless Scum and joined that wagon super late when it looked inevitable. Yeah I though about shooting JacksonVirgo but I read them as Town and their reaction here makes me think they’re Town still.

It was a bad shot sorry my guy

UNVOTE:

You would have shot Jackson who is Town so haha

I probably would have shot alice, actually

But don't aim into head, I don't want to part ways with my pretty face.

[AliceK]

NM's claim was very clearly a meme claim. The only thing to consider is are his reads really this bad?
I'm having doubts on Three because he was the one constantly saying NM was vig which was ridiculous and without extra information or a different wincon, shouldn't be something to draw attention to.

I don't have anything else at the moment.

I think N_M being vig was plausible. I think he would do the same as vig.

I don't see why drawing attention to N_M vig claim was bad.

[AliceK]

Stop bickering and let's eliminate Ythan

OK
VOTE: Save The Dragons

[Dwlee99]

It isn't about my image, it's about consolidation wtf

The way you voted was not about consolidation, you would have said something along those lines when you voted but nope you shaded STD instead.

You are opportunistic and it's sad.

The way I voted? You mean after multiple other people did? So consolidating onto someone? Smh