Open 835: D6 | Songs About Ronald Reagan | Day 5

[Galron]

I'll be in the hospital bar.

VOTE: Egix

[Galron]

I care deeply for nature.

[Galron]

Justice Is Blind

[Galron]

VOTE: number Q

[Galron]

UNVOTE:

[Galron]

I don't like these people.

[Galron]

Which people?

You've got to be the laziest person in the world.

[Galron]

I have read everything and nothing seems important enough to address (I’m about to end my break at work so I’m terse)

If you weren’t all the way on the other side of the room, I’d slap your face.

VOTE: gamma

[Galron]

Is it just me or has every single Galron post been completely indecipherable?

Try reading them in context

There's only one sleeping bag, so we're going to have to double up. Pigs in a blanket!

[Galron]

He's sweet. He's smart. He's beautiful. He's special.

[Galron]

Let 'em eat cake.

VOTE: NumberQ

[Galron]

We will need to go back there.

[Galron]

VOTE: roden

[Galron]

VOTE: enchant

[Galron]

You're just jumping right into this, huh?

[Galron]

I heard the jury's still out on science.

[Galron]

Early reads, in order from towniest to scummiest:

Town:
Roden
Penguin

Leantown:
A50
ssbm
redtea
Gamma

Null:
Galron
mozamis
Not_Mafia

Leanscum:
Enchant
Egix
Meg

Scum:
numberQ

I can elaborate on any of these if asked but I'm not going to elaborate on all of them right now, too much work.

I'm vibing with this reads list for the most part.

Why are you town reading Penguin?

If you take money from these people under false pretenses, you’ll be committing fraud.

VOTE: roden

[Galron]

I can tell I'm not going to enjoy Galron's gimmick, even if I like the source material... It's not even a wild or potentially meme-worthy setup, I don't get bringing RP stuff like that into games like this.

I'm a saint, you know. I'm a living saint, and I get absolutely nothing out of it.

[Galron]

Early reads, in order from towniest to scummiest:

Town:
Roden
Penguin

Leantown:
A50
ssbm
redtea
Gamma

Null:
Galron
mozamis
Not_Mafia

Leanscum:
Enchant
Egix
Meg

Scum:
numberQ

I can elaborate on any of these if asked but I'm not going to elaborate on all of them right now, too much work.

I'm vibing with this reads list for the most part.

Why are you town reading Penguin?

If you take money from these people under false pretenses, you’ll be committing fraud.

VOTE: roden

VOTE: Galron

Ok, let's figure each other out. Are these serious votes? If so, why do you scum read me?

Start with the misdemeanors and then, we're gonna' push right on through to the lighter treasons:

Ughhhh...I'm gonna have to keep pushing discussion, aren't I?

I'm gonna unvote before this turns into a Thing
UNVOTE:

Considering no other things have happened or are happening, I say thing it up. Why is your vote better off the wagon than on it?

I'm trying to be a

little

more selective in my thinging

VOTE: gamma

that's me, being selective

Come on, that had to have been deliberate.

VOTE: redtea

Also Enchant wtf are you doing

I wanted quickhammer, but changed mind when noticed Mag was upset, and decided to hold for now.

Ok, but why do you want a quick hammer? And why is Meg posting emojis enough to stop you from quick hammering?

Why not?

Idk, honestly. Seems like i turned in wimp with high empathy when i am sleepy. Mostly i really don't care.

Why i am not sleeping?

Weeeeeeell! I need to go now seems.

This is also terrible.

Side note: Roden is prob town for actually having common sense around the whole quickhammer situation, and also Azumarill to a lesser extent.

TMI that me and Roden are town?

Somewhat agree with this. Shutting down early quick hammers is low effort town cred for scum, and doesn't even consider the possibility that Gamma could be my buddy and that I was trying to save him. That shouldn't really be seen as town indicative.

Egix, do you have a read on Gamma?

ok, sorry, didnt realise game had started, catching up, ty

It's been a day, and not much has happened since this post. Are you caught up yet? Do you have any opinions?

It is exactly the opposite:

VOTE: roden

I get that you're gimmicking this game, but it's obscuring your thought process. Can you explain your votes?

That's E-2/E-NM btw.

What's up Enchant? Do you have any reads?

[Galron]

Votecount:

• Enchant (3): Almost50, ssbm_Kyouko, Galron
  Galron (2): Roden, Gamma Emerald
  Gamma Emerald (2): MegAzumarill, Not_Mafia
  numberQ (1): PenguinPower
  Not_Mafia (1): mozamis
  MegAzumarill (1): numberQ
  redtea (1): Egix96

I'm doing VC's by hand, please tell me if there are any errors.
Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-11-10 07:56:01).
With 13 alive it takes 7 to eliminate.

Am I reading that right?

VOTE: Enchant

[Galron]

Early reads, in order from towniest to scummiest:

Town:
Roden
Penguin

Leantown:
A50
ssbm
redtea
Gamma

Null:
Galron
mozamis
Not_Mafia

Leanscum:
Enchant
Egix
Meg

Scum:
numberQ

I can elaborate on any of these if asked but I'm not going to elaborate on all of them right now, too much work.

I'm vibing with this reads list for the most part.

Why are you town reading Penguin?

If you take money from these people under false pretenses, you’ll be committing fraud.

VOTE: roden

[Galron]

What does that mean he failed the vibe check?

[Galron]

Why are you refusing to pursue your scum reads and just settling with getting elim'd?

Because you will forget all what i say anyway. What sense in listening me?
I would't listen to me for example.

well there's the scum claim

How was this a scum claim?

[Galron]

Spoiler:

Early reads, in order from towniest to scummiest:

Town:
Roden
Penguin

Leantown:
A50
ssbm
redtea
Gamma

Null:
Galron
mozamis
Not_Mafia

Leanscum:
Enchant
Egix
Meg

Scum:
numberQ

I can elaborate on any of these if asked but I'm not going to elaborate on all of them right now, too much work.

I'm vibing with this reads list for the most part.

Why are you town reading Penguin?

If you take money from these people under false pretenses, you’ll be committing fraud.

VOTE: roden

VOTE: Galron

Ok, let's figure each other out. Are these serious votes? If so, why do you scum read me?

Start with the misdemeanors and then, we're gonna' push right on through to the lighter treasons:

Ughhhh...I'm gonna have to keep pushing discussion, aren't I?

I'm gonna unvote before this turns into a Thing
UNVOTE:

Considering no other things have happened or are happening, I say thing it up. Why is your vote better off the wagon than on it?

I'm trying to be a

little

more selective in my thinging

VOTE: gamma

that's me, being selective

Come on, that had to have been deliberate.

VOTE: redtea

Also Enchant wtf are you doing

I wanted quickhammer, but changed mind when noticed Mag was upset, and decided to hold for now.

Ok, but why do you want a quick hammer? And why is Meg posting emojis enough to stop you from quick hammering?

Why not?

Idk, honestly. Seems like i turned in wimp with high empathy when i am sleepy. Mostly i really don't care.

Why i am not sleeping?

Weeeeeeell! I need to go now seems.

This is also terrible.

Side note: Roden is prob town for actually having common sense around the whole quickhammer situation, and also Azumarill to a lesser extent.

TMI that me and Roden are town?

Somewhat agree with this. Shutting down early quick hammers is low effort town cred for scum, and doesn't even consider the possibility that Gamma could be my buddy and that I was trying to save him. That shouldn't really be seen as town indicative.

Egix, do you have a read on Gamma?

ok, sorry, didnt realise game had started, catching up, ty

It's been a day, and not much has happened since this post. Are you caught up yet? Do you have any opinions?

It is exactly the opposite:

VOTE: roden

I get that you're gimmicking this game, but it's obscuring your thought process. Can you explain your votes?

That's E-2/E-NM btw.

What's up Enchant? Do you have any reads?

Roden, you wanted to push me to explain why I was voting you, but when I voted for Enchant, you just let that go.

[Galron]

I can tell I'm not going to enjoy Galron's gimmick, even if I like the source material... It's not even a wild or potentially meme-worthy setup, I don't get bringing RP stuff like that into games like this.

I'm a saint, you know. I'm a living saint, and I get absolutely nothing out of it.

Hello darkness my old friend...

This was funny.

[Galron]

I'd like to hear more from Penguin. I haven't seen much there. Well, anywhere really, but Penguin kinda stands out.

[Galron]

Probably because you all rush a elim over the weekend when i'm not active.

I think the elim was a function of the staleness of the game.

[Galron]

I didn't voice this yesterday, but I admit I was actually not liking Moz's posting, but I guess that may be bc he was a PR.

[Galron]

Also admit I don't understand the setup all that well, so I'll take A50 at his word on what we have.

[Galron]

I don't think I've seen the episodes of Arrested Development Galron is quoting today

They were in the episode where Buster mistakes Lucille II for a wolf.

[Galron]

I get the feeling that if Penguin were scum, he'd be efforting, but I dunno. Definitely not impressed.

[Galron]

I would've expected N_M to have chimed in with a "get Penguin to E-1."

[Galron]

Could be an association there I suppose.

[Galron]

Likwise, no one has said that Penguin is effectively at E-1.

[Galron]

Did NM think he was hammering or smth?

[Galron]

VOTE: egix

cw

[Galron]

you're just TMI'ing that you know I'm town and that I'm not scum trying to mis-elim you.

How does that work?

[Galron]

you're just TMI'ing that you know I'm town and that I'm not scum trying to mis-elim you.

How does that work?

He specifically said he dislikes playing with me. This is our only game we've ever played together (excluding potential alts I guess). This heavily implies that he knows I'm not just scum playing to my wincon.

I don't think it does.

[Galron]

So that happened.

[Galron]

I think Roden is probaby town out of that end of day and twilight.

pEdit: I have to check myself.

[Galron]

I think Roden is probaby town out of that end of day and twilight.

pEdit: I have to check myself.

Check the setup that is. A50 explained it early game.

[Galron]

mozamis died in the night. He was a Town Tracker.

Shit! This means 4 rolls out of 6 were 1-3. We either have a BG + 1-shot Vig, a Doctor or a 2-shot Vig.

[Galron]

I guess we're out of PRs.

[Galron]

Impressive control by Meg.

[Galron]

That could be, but that would be like Einstein master class to snag both PRs and deflect even one, let alone two, shots.

[Galron]

Were egix and I the only ones not to talk during twilight?

[Galron]

Were egix and I the only ones not to talk during twilight?

And redtea?

[Galron]

I guess I did. It was just redtea and egix.

[Galron]

Why does twilight posting matter?

I think scum have a tendency not to post in twilight and just let town wifom themselves.

[Galron]

But redtea said they were going to come back with more 3 hours before penguin hammered, and redtea couldn't have known penguin was going to do that.

[Galron]

So I'm not going to hang a scumread on redtea for not posting in twilight at least.

[Galron]

You post all the time anyway though.

[Galron]

I've got to re-read Scarlet Witch. There were four of us in that game, N_M, Meg, Roden and me.

[Galron]

Roden self-voting that game doesn't help.

[Galron]

Roden self-voting that game doesn't help.

Not 235 but scarlet witch

[Galron]

Maybe I was too quick to tr Roden.

[Galron]

Roden self-voting that game doesn't help.

Not 235 but scarlet witch

Maybe I was too quick to tr Roden.

I'm not following your thought process here.

You rage voted yourself in Scarlet Witch, and you blew up at Penguin for doing the same thing.

[Galron]

Really? I note that kind of inconsistency and you ask why that affects my read? I'm not exactly knocking you out of a TR, but it got me to thinking. And I don't know why Gamma's case on you comes up here.

[Galron]

Shock the monkey.

VOTE: Almost50

[Galron]

Like a sledgehammer.

Spoiler:

[Galron]

Why? Tbh I would pick him out as a reasonably good PR hunter

That's part of it. He also promised to troll us, and unless he's going for the long con, he ain't doin' his job. But really, I don't think he's given any reads.

[Galron]

I tried re-reading the game, but it's just bleh. I don't see any reason to vote Egix other than he was the Counterwagon.

I did find one post where A50 was solving.

I'm not understanding why numberQ listed himself as scum in his reads list but I don't know that scum actually does that.

I wasn't real hip on Roden's post about having to force conversation, but I don't see much reason to scum read him and I think he came out townie at EOD2.

Redtea I thought might be scum, but I don't think scum loses track of the votes on Gamma Emerald.

I need to figure out where that leaves my POE.

I think the only way we figure this out is if we run some people up, and that's one of the reasons I voted A50.

[Galron]

I'm trusting Enchant's and A50's mech analysis although if A50 is scum I guess he could be lying about that, but I don't think he would given that it's something that can be verified by someone who knows what they're doing. So if the only PR left is a scum PR, I think someone mentioned a rolecop, that makes sense.

[Galron]

jesus. why does this keep happening.

I did the EXACT same thing in Squid Game, somehow I forget who died when I play games

...

What's your take on that?

[Galron]

Redtea I thought might be scum, but I don't think scum loses track of the votes on Gamma Emerald.

Why lol

What's the lol for?

[Galron]

VOTE: numberq

[Galron]

E-1 I think.

[Galron]

I joined the wagon to see what happens. I fully admit that I don't think Q has been super scummy, but I want to see how this is treated.

I also noticed N_M's "early" vote, but I don't know what to make of it.

[Galron]

Wait RH9 is the new Gamma. I thought he was redtea's rep. We're still waiting for that one right.

[Galron]

And the 1 day 18 hours left is correct? Or is that without the extra 2 days added.

[Galron]

Just jump on in Taly. You'll fall asleep reading.

[Galron]

How do you feel about eliminating Galron, then? I feel better about Roden then Galron.
VOTE: Galron for coordinating the 'miselimination'.

Assuming Galron is Scum; why do you think he voted numberQ over Egix?

I'd like to hear RH9's answer to this.

[Galron]

In fact

UNVOTE:

[Galron]

Umm.. Taly wasn't mafia in Slaughter Hour.

[Galron]

And hopefully, Mafia realises their mistake.

What are you getting at here?

[Galron]

RH9, you came in and mis-labeled Taly as scum in a meta dive, and then said Taly feels different this game when Taly had made just two posts, one asking the best way to catch up and the other a solvey-type post. Then you figure out that Taly wasn't scum in the game you quoted but you don't change direction on Taly.

To be fair, Taly's current posting feels different to that of when he's Mafia.

How can you get a feel for Taly with him posting just twice. Shouldn't you be reading Gamma Emerald, the player that Taly subbed for? Wouldn't that produce better data? And if Taly's posting this game feels different that Slaughter Hour, are you saying that he's mafia this game? And how was Taly's posting to the point where you said he was different when he was mafia different this game anyway?

[Galron]

I'm liking RH9 at the moment

Please expand on this.

[Galron]

[snip]

UNVOTE: numberQ
Ok, I guess that I need to reassess everything. Are you saying Roden and Galron are coordinating? (Or this an attempt to make me feel betrayed by Galron and vote him over you?) But then, I'll UNVOTE: numberQ.

Yeah, I was suggesting Roden and Galron could have coordinated trying to mislim Almost and then myself. I do think Almost is town, and I think my wagon has had very flimsy justification for it overall, which would imply scum activity.

Also I didn't read most of your meta research, sorry. It was just a bunch of no context quotes. If you or someone else points to specific things in this game that relate to meta, then I'll pay attention.

How do you feel about eliminating Galron, then? I feel better about Roden then Galron.
VOTE: Galron for coordinating the 'miselimination'.

What did I coordinate again? Are you referring to my A50 vote?

[Galron]

RH9, you came in and mis-labeled Taly as scum in a meta dive, and then said Taly feels different this game when Taly had made just two posts, one asking the best way to catch up and the other a solvey-type post. Then you figure out that Taly wasn't scum in the game you quoted but you don't change direction on Taly.

To be fair, Taly's current posting feels different to that of when he's Mafia.

How can you get a feel for Taly with him posting just twice. Shouldn't you be reading Gamma Emerald, the player that Taly subbed for? Wouldn't that produce better data? And if Taly's posting this game feels different that Slaughter Hour, are you saying that he's mafia this game? And how was Taly's posting to the point where you said he was different when he was mafia different this game anyway?

Actually not Gamma Emerald, but redtea. Shouldn't you be reading redtea?

[Galron]

Looking through Galron's posts. He seems to be solving. I am going to say that he is Town. Roden has a strong scumgame from memory. Will read through his posts.

And yet you try to start a wagon on me for coordinating a mizzle:

[snip]

UNVOTE: numberQ
Ok, I guess that I need to reassess everything. Are you saying Roden and Galron are coordinating? (Or this an attempt to make me feel betrayed by Galron and vote him over you?) But then, I'll UNVOTE: numberQ.

Yeah, I was suggesting Roden and Galron could have coordinated trying to mislim Almost and then myself. I do think Almost is town, and I think my wagon has had very flimsy justification for it overall, which would imply scum activity.

Also I didn't read most of your meta research, sorry. It was just a bunch of no context quotes. If you or someone else points to specific things in this game that relate to meta, then I'll pay attention.

How do you feel about eliminating Galron, then? I feel better about Roden then Galron.
VOTE: Galron for coordinating the 'miselimination'.

[Galron]

Taly replaces redtea.

Now here's someone that will probably win the game for their team. Now which team is that?

Spoiler:

[Galron]

I didn't even catch that but good question.

[Galron]

And hopefully, Mafia realises their mistake.

What are you getting at here?

I hope that I caught or catch the Mafia before I get NKed or eliminated.

I'm not following your thoughts here. Please explain this answer to me.

[Galron]

VOTE: RH9

Those answers are terrible.

[Galron]

You have two votes and you're talking about getting hammered.

[Galron]

What redeeems RH9 Taly?

[Galron]

I can't follow your jumping from chocolate to vanilla to strawberry. Your thought process is an ink blot to me. Nothing for me to get angry about, and I don't know why you'd think that.

[Galron]

I'm relieved you feel better.

[Galron]

Are you sure that Galron isn't getting framed? Honestly I feel like Galron did make a lot of pushes which is more likely done by Mafia looking for a easy push than Town. Would like Galron to respond as soon as possible because it is not looking good for him.

How am I getting framed?

Someone will need to explain that to me.

[Galron]

Are you sure that Galron isn't getting framed? Honestly I feel like Galron did make a lot of pushes which is more likely done by Mafia looking for a easy push than Town. Would like Galron to respond as soon as possible because it is not looking good for him.

How am I getting framed?

Someone will need to explain that to me.

You were on the opposing wagon. Roden gets killed. Almost50 has me convinced that you're Mafia.

I guess I can see that. Reading it again I see I failed to ask how pushes are scum indicative. If you think my pushes come from Mafia rather than Town, will you explain how so?

[Galron]

Do this please. Re-read 978 slowly and think about it. Note the placement of the verbs and propositions. Then read your responses to that post. Then tell me if that changes anything you wrote.

Also, please define NAI, not the acronym but the concept.

[Galron]

I don't know who should be eliminated today. I'm leaning toward Taly, but it may be I just need to re-read redtea and hear more from Taly himself. I know your question was directed at A50, but I think I'm in his PoE, and I think he mentioned that earlier this phase. I've played enough with A50 that he should have something against me, because I'm nowhere near the player he is and I screw things up more often than not, but I don't think he's got a personal bias against me. I think it's just PoE.

[Galron]

I don't recall those games. There is something though in what I just wrote in which you could push me for. It's an example of me not being clear.

[Galron]

You were hardly pushing Mafia. You kept on pushing Town. (At least that's if numberQ is Town which is what I currently think.)

There's a possible perspective slip here that I'm mulling over.

[Galron]

I had to go back to see why I voted Q, and I explained it -- I think I was the only one to explain their vote on Q -- in 802. Per 810 it looks like Roden was sheeping Kyouko, RH9 was sheeping Roden and N_M was doing whatever N_M does. But that early vote by N_M leads me to thinking Q is probably town. I don't think N_M would go for the early bus when scum are dominating this game.

[Galron]

I had to go back to see why I voted Q, and I explained it -- I think I was the only one to explain their vote on Q -- in 802. Per 810 it looks like Roden was sheeping Kyouko, RH9 was sheeping Roden and N_M was doing whatever N_M does. But that early vote by N_M leads me to thinking Q is probably town. I don't think N_M would go for the early bus when scum are dominating this game.

Dominating at that point.

[Galron]

That leaves

Almost50
Egix96
numberQ
ssbm_Kyouko
redtea/Taly
Gamma Emerald/RH9

Out of those six I really only townlean Egix and numberQ, and Egix for no great reason.

[Galron]

It's meta, and I'm trying to get away from relying on meta. But I don't know Egix's scum game, so it's really not a good reason to town read him. There is nothing that anyone has done in this game that pops out as hard town for me.

[Galron]

Being patient.

[Galron]

Please prod kyouko

[Galron]

You were hardly pushing Mafia. You kept on pushing Town. (At least that's if numberQ is Town which is what I currently think.)

There's a possible perspective slip here that I'm mulling over.

Has anything come out of this?

I haven't ISO'd gamma and RH9 yet, which was my intent.

[Galron]

Being patient.

Wearing thin.

[Galron]

You were hardly pushing Mafia. You kept on pushing Town. (At least that's if numberQ is Town which is what I currently think.)

There's a possible perspective slip here that I'm mulling over.

Has anything come out of this?

I haven't ISO'd gamma and RH9 yet, which was my intent.

But Gamma Emerald and me have different playstyles. What if Gamma Emerald says Townier things than me?

That being the case, Lewis and Clark traveled the Ohio River. To reach Louisville it took them six weeks, which included a one-week stopover in Cincinnati for rest and replenishment of some of the supplies.

[Galron]

You were hardly pushing Mafia. You kept on pushing Town. (At least that's if numberQ is Town which is what I currently think.)

There's a possible perspective slip here that I'm mulling over.

Has anything come out of this?

I haven't ISO'd gamma and RH9 yet, which was my intent.

But Gamma Emerald and me have different playstyles. What if Gamma Emerald says Townier things than me?

Do you think he will?

[Galron]

Are you sure that Galron isn't getting framed? Honestly I feel like Galron did make a lot of pushes which is more likely done by Mafia looking for a easy push than Town. Would like Galron to respond as soon as possible because it is not looking good for him.

How am I getting framed?

Someone will need to explain that to me.

You were on the opposing wagon. Roden gets killed. Almost50 has me convinced that you're Mafia.

I don't connect how

Galron

being the opposing wagon and

Roden's

death are connected to a narrative he is scum?

So that Galron has less competition. Plus Roden was very likely to get sheeped so without Roden, there will be nobody to sheep. (But then, this would work for almost everybody else too, because nobody else gets that easily sheeped as Roden.)

This comes across as scummy to me. Roden is no longer here, and even though you qualify your thought by saying that no one gets sheeped as easily as Roden, actually maybe that's the part that bothers me. Who's to say players sheep Roden easily? That's a first on me.

[Galron]

I was going to post my latest PoE but it hasn't changed. A50, Taly, Kyouko and RH9 all fit the bill right now.

[Galron]

You were hardly pushing Mafia. You kept on pushing Town. (At least that's if numberQ is Town which is what I currently think.)

There's a possible perspective slip here that I'm mulling over.

Has anything come out of this?

I haven't ISO'd gamma and RH9 yet, which was my intent.

But Gamma Emerald and me have different playstyles. What if Gamma Emerald says Townier things than me?

Do you think he will?

If you already did the ISO, then yes. I tend to unintentionally act scummy, no matter my alignment.

So what does that have to do with me doing and ISO on Gamma and on you.

[Galron]

Your making a point of excluding Q from that list leads me to think you are scheming. I don't like that.

[Galron]

What is going on Down Under? Would anyone like a Vegimite Sandwich?

[Galron]

You were hardly pushing Mafia. You kept on pushing Town. (At least that's if numberQ is Town which is what I currently think.)

There's a possible perspective slip here that I'm mulling over.

Has anything come out of this?

I haven't ISO'd gamma and RH9 yet, which was my intent.

But Gamma Emerald and me have different playstyles. What if Gamma Emerald says Townier things than me?

Do you think he will?

If you already did the ISO, then yes. I tend to unintentionally act scummy, no matter my alignment.

So what does that have to do with me doing and ISO on Gamma and on you.

I thought that you already did and found something scummy.

Your making a point of excluding Q from that list leads me to think you are scheming. I don't like that.

Scheming to let numberQ win?

No, I haven't done the ISOs that I want to do. I'm not sure what has led you to think that I have. If Q is town, I'm fine with what he is doing.

[Galron]

Your making a point of excluding Q from that list leads me to think you are scheming. I don't like that.

Scheming to let numberQ win?

Or are you looking for pre-flip associative tells, now?

Forget the associatives, inform me about these tells.

[Galron]

It appears, RH9, that just you and I are playing this game. Do you think we're both Town or otherwise?




t

[Galron]

If you're asking me, yes. With my experience with A50, it takes me a while to judge him. He's a friggin pro at this.

[Galron]

It appears, RH9, that just you and I are playing this game. Do you think we're both Town or otherwise?




t

We are hopefully both Town.

Why do you want me to be Town?

[Galron]

But Gamma Emerald and me have different playstyles. What if Gamma Emerald says Townier things than me?

Do you think he will?

If you already did the ISO, then yes. I tend to unintentionally act scummy, no matter my alignment.

So what does that have to do with me doing and ISO on Gamma and on you.

I thought that you already did and found something scummy.

What does the timing of me doing the ISO have to do with it? It appears to me that you were wary of a trap by me -- that I was setting you up. It's very strange.

[Galron]

I was asking RH9, thanks for answering for him.

pedit: Not really sure what that means. You said you would have voted Galron if he included me on his list. So clearly something differentiates me from the others that were on his list.

Yeah, sorry about that. I hate when people answer a question that is not directed to them. Gamma Emerald has a name for it that I can't remember off the top of my head. But anyway I was drinking, which isn't a good excuse.

[Galron]

What is going on Down Under? Would anyone like a Vegimite Sandwich?

Apologies for this as well. Inappropriate.

[Galron]

What is going on Down Under? Would anyone like a Vegimite Sandwich?

Apologies for this as well. Inappropriate.

Apology accepted.

WAIT. WHAT? How's this offending?

P.S. Not an English speaker, so I wouldn't know if it has a different meaning other than the literal one

The way that RH9 has been so courteous, which I don't know whether is an act or not, I didn't want him to take offense at me singling out Aussies and what to me, because of the song, is a stereotype. No one else other than you probably realizes how big that song was and remembers the video for it, but while I think the video is funny, in 2021 I could see someone who wasn't around then maybe taking offense to it. But man that whole album was good, and every time I run into an Aussie, it's the first thing that runs through my head.

Be good be good.

[Galron]

What is going on Down Under? Would anyone like a Vegimite Sandwich?

No thanks. I'm full. Though I wouldn't mind lying in a den in Bombay with a slack jaw, and not much to say

And while this is from the same tune, I don't think it's the same because it doesn't contain the Vegemite lyric. I just remember thinking back then that all Aussies loved Vegemite sandwiches. So I guess it may just be a stereotype that doesn't exist. I don't know. Just being cautious.

[Galron]

And back to the game, I don't know why Kyouko should be taken out today. I'm leaning toward RH9 or Taly. I'm lazy and haven't looked back and read those slots though, and a frozen clock isn't motivating me to do so.

[Galron]

I think it's pretty out there myself. I'm not sure how that helps my read on him though.

[Galron]

Especially with one maf dead.

[Galron]

We have 3 scum. 1 dead. So now 2. Bussing your only partner, leaving you to finsih the game on your own, at this point in the game, is either big brain stuff by mafia or just dumb. I've seen it before and almost succeed. But It's kind of crazy. Egix is smart enough to know this, so I'm not sure why he's even making that proposition.

Egix, do you genuinely think this is something A50 would cook up?

[Galron]

Votecount:

• Not_Mafia (5): Roden, RH9, Egix96, numberQ, Taly
  RH9 (3): Galron, ssbm_Kyouko, Not_Mafia

I'm doing VC's by hand, please tell me if there are any errors.
Day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-11-28 18:35:01).
With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

It would also mean we had back-to-back scum voting a town!RH9.

[Galron]

I don't buy it.

[Galron]

but egix, what about rh9's 992 pacified you?

egix, what about rh9's 992 pacified you?

His explanation for the misunderstanding seemed plausible (I presume you disagree?), I had had some time to cool off so I could think more rationally and I no longer needed to self-pres.

Taly, which post did you mean to ask Egix about here, and Egix, how did you know what Taly was referring to?

[Galron]

And back to the game, I don't know why Kyouko should be taken out today. I'm leaning toward RH9 or Taly. I'm lazy and haven't looked back and read those slots though, and a frozen clock isn't motivating me to do so.

But Taly is a townlean for me. But if ssbm_Kyouko flips Town, then things might change.

Please continue...

[Galron]

I don't follow the logic. And it looks like what you did there is something restaurants here in the States do: 3 drink sizes, small, medium and large. How do we show they're getting more value for their money? Get rid of the small and call it a medium, call the medium a large, and call the large a mega. So you order a small drink, and they say, "I'm sorry, this comes only in medium, large and mega." "I'll have a medium then." "Well, for 10 cents more you can get a large." "Okay give me a large then."

Here, I'm reading your list similarly. You have a fear of scum reading someone is my guess.

[Galron]

You're saying I'm scum in this game, right? I just want to be clear because that sentence is a bit confusing.

[Galron]

I didn't realize that had ended. That was a fun game.

[Galron]

I guess that gives me a little meta on you now, which I hate relying on, but you're a lot like that so you're town for now.

[Galron]

almost50's iso is rough at the start but makes some posts later on that are very town, so that's 1 down. ill explain this stuff later right now im just firing from the hip

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Umm.. lol

[Galron]

almost50's iso is rough at the start but makes some posts later on that are very town, so that's 1 down. ill explain this stuff later right now im just firing from the hip

]

Umm.. lol

I retract the lol. I was thinking different game.

[Galron]

bloodhail, you had a "where is the scumhuntung post" re redtea. Do you have any more thoughts on that slot?

[Galron]

VOTE: taly

[Galron]

I'll hammer Egix if need be. I haven't checked the VC. I'm getting bad juju from taly, and Egix is just bleh to me but I don't really scum read him.

[Galron]

As far as a partner for Taly, I was headed toward RH9 but I thinkhe's proved himself town now. I'm not too sure about A50, but that's mostly general paranoia about A50.

[Galron]

numberq/egix def not aligned, i think numberq overall is okay, looks the part anyway, nothing hard town but nothing i particularly hate and given the game looks to have been horribly inactive scumhunting at all is +town and theres some measure of fluidity in his thoughts

This popped out. numberq & egix are not aligned or not SvS?

[Galron]

I ask bc that distinction got me burned as scum recently, and I thought it was a right for the wrong reasons thing that I got scumread for it.

[Galron]

mod could we trouble you for another VC?

[Galron]

I don't think Egix is at E-1. I count one vote on him in the last VC and one vote for him.

[Galron]

I would probably be looking at it the same way fwiw.

[Galron]

Votecount:

Not_Mafia (5): Roden, RH9, Egix96, numberQ, Taly
RH9 (3): Galron, ssbm_Kyouko, Not_Mafia

I'm doing VC's by hand, please tell me if there are any errors.
Day 3 ends in (expired on 2021-11-28 18:35:01).
With 9 alive it takes 5 to eliminate.

If it's Egix, we have a double bus Day 3, when Taly and Egix could have limmed RH9.

Votecount:

ssbm_Kyouko (3): RH9, Taly, Almost50
Almost50 (1): Egix96
Egix96 (1): numberQ
Not voting: Galron

I'm doing VC's by hand, please tell me if there are any errors.
Day 4 ends in [FROZEN AT 3 DAYS 11 HOURS 14 MINUTES].
With 7 alive it takes 4 to eliminate.

And here on Day 4 Egix could have re-evaluated his double-bussing theory w/out anyone batting an eyelash and hammered Kyouko/bloodhail.

So coming into today, I was thinking it was either A50 or Egix. Looking at these VCs, I don't know if either one of them makes sense. I was thinking A50 was giving town a heads up about Egix in twilight because he thought he'd be the Night Kill.

I don't want to vote either of them yet. I think it may be neither and that nightkill was for max WIFOM because I think the obvious choices were Egix or A50.

[Galron]

If it's Egix, we have a double bus Day 3, when Taly and Egix could have limmed RH9.

RH9 makes no sense as a scum counterwagon, and by play he's been town. New town to be sure, but town nonetheless.

[Galron]

Does scum bus both their partners to death like this? Assuming Taly does get limmed, and Egix is scum. I'm starting to feel a scumteam out of {Egix, Galron}, though I haven't looked back at the thread to point at concrete evidence. It's just pinging me.

Here we have what looks like a possible perspective slip.

What does everyone else think?

[Galron]

If it's Egix, we have a double bus Day 3, when Taly and Egix could have limmed RH9.

And if it's A50, who wasn't voting, He and Taly could have hammered a town!RH9 pretty easily.

[Galron]

So that leaves Q, RH9 and me. I know it's not me, and I'm fairly certain it's not RH9, so I think Q needs re-evaluated.

And you know it's not me bc I wouldn't put myself in the POE like this.

[Galron]

The kill is actually kinda brilliant bc of the A50/Egix rivalry.

[Galron]

It doesn't make sense for A50 to hammer Taly there when there were still 3 or 4 days left in the phase.

[Galron]

I don't want to vote either of them yet. I think it may be neither and that nightkill was for max WIFOM because I think the obvious choices were Egix or A50.

Egix or A50 as the final scum, not as the Night Kill. I think maybe the kyouko/bloodhail Night Kill was made so that we'd argue about Egix vs A50 all day.

[Galron]

Oh shit. You're right. That doesn't work.

[Galron]

Is RH9 skilled enough to do this?

[Galron]

Or maybe it's just Egix.

[Galron]

If we lim Egix today, and he's town, we're in elo. I'm okay with that.

[Galron]

I don't know why egix would kill bloodhail though

[Galron]

Well done.

Good call A50.

[Galron]

Thanks for the game T3

[Galron]

What I learned most from this game was just how many songs there are about Ronald Reagan. What's up with that?

Good game everyone, thanks for modding T3! I feel like I'm developing a town meta of immediately reading one scum at the start of the game then just tunneling them until the end.

Yes! That was a good playlist. I forgot to mention that.

[Galron]

what gave me away

galron

?

I posted something about wanting to hear more from you, which was a call for you to do more solving. And you came back with "if you want to hear something specific from me just ask." It came across as sooooo defensive that it just stuck in my head and put you at the head of the line in my PoE. It was more a vibe read than anything.

[Galron]

So many good songs. Well done T3.

[Galron]

Finally got to play scum Egix. I was super hesitant to flip him.