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Post Post #10 (isolation #0) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:16 am

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finally a theme game based on the best Foo Fighters album

naturally time to post a song off it

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Post Post #12 (isolation #1) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:19 am

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In post 8, Color Purple wrote:Let's get pairing! I will start.
PAIR: Circle Shape
, one of my favourite shapes.
well thats a surprise

i suppose pairs not being loverized means its not quite as big a deal to pair early


and i think lol-pairing is >rand town


but theres something that makes me hesitate that i cant quite put words to
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Post Post #13 (isolation #2) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:23 am

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In post 9, Color Green wrote:Is it better for us to let town or scum be unpaired? Discuss.
the delayer power seems to be almost entirely pro-scum

i dont see a town benefit in having it


ideally the unpaired player is the day 1 lim because otherwise youre breaking up a pair and taking a pr out of the game before it has a chance to be used

but ive seen how these games go

and you dont really have control over who pairs with who

if someone pairs with a scummy scumfuck who is obvious that doesnt mean you should lim them because of prs or whatever
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Post Post #60 (isolation #3) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:01 pm

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In post 15, Color Blue wrote:I have townpings from Circle and mild scumvibes off Purple's entrance.

I am looking for a partner with a great taste in music and also hopefully very active.

Must like long walks and have a great sense of humor.

Also preferably of town alignment because I don't need to be pocketed in a PT that would not be fun.
why do i townping

i must know

my ego demands it
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Post Post #65 (isolation #4) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:10 pm

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In post 22, Color Orange wrote:I feel like I'd rather leave a town unpaired because even if delayer is anti-town, I'd rather have it in town's hands. I think a good strategy might be to never use it until 2 scum are dead?
the delayer works on power implementation from pairs not the factional kill

but im going to give a townread for this attempt at a strong protown strategy
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Post Post #67 (isolation #5) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:12 pm

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oh red is mafia

thats one down
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Post Post #69 (isolation #6) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:15 pm

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i townleaned green for possibly bad reasons on page 1

i feel more comfortable in that read now

arrow seems ok but im treading with caution
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Post Post #71 (isolation #7) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:17 pm

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In post 68, Arrow Shape wrote:Why is red mafia?
fos on players for contrived reasons ("TMI on roleblocker", "LAMIST")

blatant TMI read on pentagon
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Post Post #74 (isolation #8) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:20 pm

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arrow i think i know why you want to kill green

but its probably not a scumtell there

in fact i moonlogicked it into a towntell
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Post Post #75 (isolation #9) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:20 pm

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In post 72, Arrow Shape wrote:Aren't all reasons at this point contrived.
they look like reasons scum attacks people for in early game
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Post Post #76 (isolation #10) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:23 pm

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i dont agree with the early townreads on blue

not to say i think blue is scum

the reads just seem a bit too free and obvious if you will

however i think of the people making those early reads i find heart suspicious
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Post Post #78 (isolation #11) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:25 pm

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In post 77, Star Shape wrote:I like Circle's posts. Say more wise things for us.
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Post Post #81 (isolation #12) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:29 pm

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In post 79, Arrow Shape wrote:I notice you didn't actually specify which reasons you had for town reading green, nor did you say anything about what your reasons were for moon logicking a town read on green.
correct

those are for me right now
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Post Post #83 (isolation #13) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 4:34 pm

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the opposite actually

but thumbs up
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Post Post #96 (isolation #14) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:16 pm

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In post 85, Arrow Shape wrote:
In post 83, Circle Shape wrote:the opposite actually

but thumbs up
Are you saying you're afraid of criticism or being made fun of?
no i just think they are a little trivial and as town i sometimes find it better to not explain every little thing right away

but i guess since i am inferring something about your own read me being coy is unhelpful

im guessing you scumread green for his page 1 posts all being related to the discussion of mechanics

my thought as purely mechanical discussion is such a cliche scumtell that most scum will avoid opening that way

but it was only a lean at the time like i said since that can easily be a playstyle thing

i think his response to you was townie though



i was going to type things about blue but realized i asked blue a question that i want answered first
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Post Post #97 (isolation #15) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:17 pm

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purple

what
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Post Post #105 (isolation #16) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:25 pm

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In post 103, Color Red wrote:
In post 100, Pentagon Shape wrote:Red definitely has chutzpah, I’ll give them that. lol
Not sure what that means lol.
i mean i did call you scum you know

are you just not reading the game
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Post Post #117 (isolation #17) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:43 pm

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im going to call purple town and assume they get yeeted at some point at some point anyway for being weird

so i can say i told you so
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Post Post #119 (isolation #18) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:45 pm

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In post 109, Color Blue wrote:
In post 60, Circle Shape wrote:
In post 15, Color Blue wrote:I have townpings from Circle and mild scumvibes off Purple's entrance.

I am looking for a partner with a great taste in music and also hopefully very active.

Must like long walks and have a great sense of humor.

Also preferably of town alignment because I don't need to be pocketed in a PT that would not be fun.
why do i townping

i must know

my ego demands it

I liked:

"and i think lol-pairing is >rand town"

and

"the delayer power seems to be almost entirely pro-scum"
thats fine

i suppose i accept that read

second one is a simple mechanical observation but i can see liking it
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Post Post #121 (isolation #19) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:47 pm

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actually my new hypothesis is that purple would have discussed strategy with his teammates in the pt pregame

his cluelessness is likely town

i like this read
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Post Post #128 (isolation #20) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 5:58 pm

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i dont think purity of pairings is even essential given the lack of loverization and may just lead to obvtown pairs getting offed

i may be happiest pairing with a null read who i can try to sort in private

thats my last thought for the night
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Post Post #130 (isolation #21) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 6:05 pm

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In post 127, Color Blue wrote:
In post 124, Arrow Shape wrote:
In post 116, Color Blue wrote:I feel somewhat lost

I will try again tomorrow.
What's there to feel lost about?

I don't understand how people are where they are
what do you mean?
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Post Post #258 (isolation #22) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:44 pm

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catching up now

i think i am very confident in purple being town now

which means that some of the early foses on purple were likely scum opportunism

ill have to review that

but would be very surprised if there wasnt even one scum in the people who called out purple
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Post Post #260 (isolation #23) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:48 pm

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In post 143, Pentagon Shape wrote:So I know it isn’t me and unless I’m wrongly reading circle and arrow and it isn’t star, then it would have to be between heart and diamond, assuming only one scum in shapes?

But with one extra power, it would seem likely at least one.

I really don’t have a read on either but based soloey by PoE, scum is probably likely in at least one. Red looks the worst from the colors with my liking yellow, orange, blue and maybe purple?

Have no idea on green yet but slots that haven’t impressed me yet are: red, heart, green, diamond.
assume that alignments are randomly distributed

speculating on splits bad and pointless
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Post Post #261 (isolation #24) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 2:48 pm

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In post 259, Diamond Shape wrote:I... kind of don't care if I'm paired anymore.

It feels like the thoughts I did give were kind of brushed over so I don't think anyone is particularly interested in picking my brain so, if everyone else wants to play together go for it.
well i cant pair with you

but when i get to your thoughts i can try to talk about them
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Post Post #292 (isolation #25) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:52 pm

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In post 167, Diamond Shape wrote:- Pretty sure this has been said to some degree but Purple is probably down, weird entry but they feel very... earnest in their replies in a way that I don't think scum can easily fake. The content itself doesn't seem sound but the spirit matters.
this is basically how i feel yeah
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Post Post #298 (isolation #26) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:22 pm

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In post 178, Pentagon Shape wrote:
In post 111, Color Purple wrote:
In post 108, Pentagon Shape wrote:So far liking circle, arrow, blue, orange

Suspicious of purple, star, red
Oh I agree. On Red. Blue is definitely a townread for me as well as Arrow and Green.
No red is locktown for me now.
pentagon probably town here although i dont think i agree

early reads from red had an element of showiness to them
In post 180, Pentagon Shape wrote:
In post 173, Color Purple wrote:
In post 157, Color Blue wrote:I appreciate the effort but there's like no scum reads and it feels kind of robotic almost in the way he is town-reading people for doing fairly minor things.

Also if you townread people who took issue with your entrance, did you make your entrance deliberately scummy on purpose? I'm confused about your thought process there.
I was trying to see how people react to lurking and other obvious scumtells. I dod have a scumlean which became a null read. To be fair, you can see for my one ephemeral scumlean. I immediately ended up rereading and found nothing scummy and thus lost my scumread.

Also I still nullread Triangle. Triangle does seem to be deliberately writing in a way which I find unreadable. (That being said, this could be a playstyle thing.)
Triangle gives me tstbs vibes but could be, just seems too godawful to be scum, since scum usually at least try to come up with decent reads but if noob scum, then obviously the jury would still be out on that.
triangle obviously doing a gimmick

pushing the limits of readability
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Post Post #302 (isolation #27) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:37 pm

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i thought about it and maybe pentagon has a point about that one red post

i assume the read change for other reasons

still quite like the change from pent where scum would not be likely to give credit for that post
In post 198, Color Orange wrote:
In post 105, Circle Shape wrote:
In post 103, Color Red wrote:
In post 100, Pentagon Shape wrote:Red definitely has chutzpah, I’ll give them that. lol
Not sure what that means lol.
i mean i did call you scum you know

are you just not reading the game
Why do you think chutzpah is a scummy thing?
that is not what i said

please read more carefully
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Post Post #317 (isolation #28) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:46 am

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i dont necessarily find anything objectionable in oranges catchup posts but they seem

polished


and it makes me a bit

uncertain
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Post Post #318 (isolation #29) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:50 am

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maybe at some point i will try to understand triangles argument but its too early irl for me to be able to think about it properly
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Post Post #319 (isolation #30) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:57 am

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oh no i think i get it

the argument is crap it was very obvious from the rules


i dont know if it says anything about triangles alignment but it makes me not like them
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Post Post #376 (isolation #31) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:41 am

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i feel like falling behind on this game has left me feeling really lost in terms of reads and im still not fully caught up
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Post Post #379 (isolation #32) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:45 am

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In post 280, Color Red wrote:Can someone go over why purple seems to be a consensus townread, I've seen a lot of "purple is town" but I haven't seen why. I have seen a lot of effort but that isn't completely AI.

As far as I can tell Triangle this game has made basically one point which is a really odd roundabout TMI accusation on penta.

Still don't really understand Penta's 180 on me, but others seem to believe the logic holds and its right so I guess it can be left be.
more than the fact that the logic holds its that i dont see scum making that reversal on you at that moment in time
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Post Post #381 (isolation #33) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:52 am

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In post 287, Color Blue wrote:The reason I have Star/Diamond as SRs is because I got whiplash reading through Diamond's ISO:



Diamond calls out Star for volunteering and taking it backsies - he calls it a bit-LAMISTY

Later however:



He more or less makes the same kind of LAMisty appeal.

I do think it's possible he is just fustrated town who feels like he is being frozen out - but the game has barely been running for 2? days so I'm not sure that's something that's genuine.

It feels to me that the game state is still wide open and I think people are happy to mingle and talk - we've only paired 2 players so far.

I guess I think if he's town I just want to give him a big hug.

Maybe even if he's scum I would too? I am a sucker for AtE.
i think its a weird thing for scum to complain about being ignored

like if im scum no one paying attention to anything i say would be pretty much the ideal like why do you care if no one talks to you as scum haha

although i dont know what diamond posted that they are upset about being ignored for

looking back they had one big post with some thoughts and not much else

i still feel like when ive seen people upset at being ignored theyve always been town


but i actually like this reasoning from you seems like youre really digging in and looking for something to catch
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Post Post #383 (isolation #34) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:56 am

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In post 296, Color Blue wrote:
Spoiler: embarrassing confession don't click on this unless you are mafia
I kind of want to pair with scum and get hopelessly pocketed because that seems like something fun to do and I've never done that before.

Yes it's Friday night and I'm just lonely and cold haha.

I promise I won't get paranoid too soon!

I am very susceptible to nice music and sweet talk
im not scum but i could pocket you anyway haha
In post 297, Color Blue wrote:@Circle how do you feel about pairing with Orange?

I think she might be interested in you and she is quite the catch.
im actually not sure yet

felt oddly apprehensive at her catchup

but i feel like i really need to reread the game and take notes now to wrap my head around it
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Post Post #384 (isolation #35) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 11:57 am

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imagine if the people calling out star for trying to look town with his first post were correct

i would die at such a cliche read working
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Post Post #391 (isolation #36) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:07 pm

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please stop referencing your status in past games it can be taken as a sign of main hinting
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Post Post #393 (isolation #37) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:10 pm

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In post 310, Star Shape wrote:Just finished catching up. So far I like Arrow, Circle, Heart, and Pentagon for town shapes. I was null on Heart for a bit, but their recent posts don't feel panicked about a potential PoE closing in on them, which is +town.

Diamond's defeatist attitude wrt perceived lack of interaction is very meh to me, several people myself included have given him content to work with but he hasn't responded to much. It also seems odd that he's acting like he's going to have to go solo since no one is poking at him too much, even though he's guaranteed to pair up with a color. Also don't like Triangle's gimmick the longer the game goes on, since my eyes tend to glaze over when reading their posts and that may just be the point. It seems like borderline encrypted text, intentionally making their posts hard to read just seems anti-town.

For colors, Green, Purple, Red, and Yellow all feel pretty townie to me.

Not really liking Blue's posts, early reads felt off and her scum reads ping me with Ro3. If Blue ever flips scum I'd want to get Diamond next immediately. Orange meanwhile is null scum for me, mainly just vibes since a lot of early posts were just "I like this/this seems townie" without giving a reason, plus the early shade on Purple that didn't go anywhere and just faded once he started towning it up. It got weird because Orange seemed to be so impressed by Purple's town read on me that she went from believing Purple was fishy to hard town reading him.
this post is very meh to me
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Post Post #402 (isolation #38) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 12:40 pm

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In post 396, Color Blue wrote:
In post 383, Circle Shape wrote:im not scum but i could pocket you anyway haha
I think I would like that very much if you could!
i want to reread everyone first but im considering it
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Post Post #431 (isolation #39) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:58 pm

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In post 423, Arrow Shape wrote:Orange should pair with circle.
Why do you like Orange?
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Post Post #432 (isolation #40) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:00 pm

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crap i broke my posting gimmick

ahhh

;-;
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Post Post #442 (isolation #41) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:30 pm

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In post 433, Arrow Shape wrote:Their posts seem largely reasonable and sort of unusual for to make scum.
In post 434, Arrow Shape wrote:It's late.
I meant I've never seen scum post like they're posting.
really

most of their stuff has een quoting things and responding with the occasional read question or mechanical comment

its fine but not really anything that cant be faked

hasnt had any thoughts that were brilliantly town to me
In post 436, Color Blue wrote:I like how blunt Orange is about her opinions - tonally it feels very earnest. I think she believes in her reads.
i think bluntness is a personality trait tbh

you might be right im just not sure of it yet
In post 437, Color Blue wrote:
In post 432, Circle Shape wrote:crap i broke my posting gimmick

ahhh

;-;

what was the gimmick?
just changing my typing style
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Post Post #443 (isolation #42) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:30 pm

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i have decided

Pair: Blue


i hope you will accept i think we would make a good team
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Post Post #444 (isolation #43) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:36 pm

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we dont agree on everything but thats good because i need to hear a varied perspective on the game

my own reads usually arent great but when i work with people i do better
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Post Post #447 (isolation #44) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:38 pm

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oh gosh
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Post Post #449 (isolation #45) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:50 pm

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oh gosh

(ღ˘⌣˘ღ)
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Post Post #499 (isolation #46) » Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:43 pm

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In post 454, Color Orange wrote:Based on this last page I see Blue seems to have paired with Circle. I wish her the best, as I should have tried harder if I really wanted to pair with Circle. Aside from that, been a bit busy, so have only really skimmed things between my last post and now. I do wish to apologize if my actions made Diamond feel unhappy though, because I feel like I did not try to interact with them outside a very shallow engagement. So I would not be surprised if that was a factor in the displeasure they expressed upon coming in a couple days ago.
hope you dont take it personal i just

felt like blue really spoke to me you know
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Post Post #502 (isolation #47) » Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:51 pm

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In post 497, Color Orange wrote:I see Triangle disregarding the main slip post as evidence. I asked the mod and we can analyze them as long as the actual player identity isn't a factor in that analysis. As is, I do think that post is a town thought on general principle.
the problem is that even if triangle doesnt believe it should be considered triangle is also willfully disregarding it being a factor in pentagons read on red

you cant just discard parts of reality you find inconvenient which is what triangle is doing

even if triangle thinks nothing of that post it doesnt mean someone else cant


granted bad logic doesnt mean scum but frustrating to deal with

certainly scum can play that way i dont really like townreads just for conviction or whatever
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Post Post #503 (isolation #48) » Sun Nov 21, 2021 3:53 pm

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also power + modifier corresponding to color + shape was incredibly obvious based on the rules and signup and didnt take asking the mod

the fact that triangle is continuing to push that argument is way way worse than using the info from a mainslip post and has me raising an eyebrow
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Post Post #523 (isolation #49) » Sun Nov 21, 2021 5:34 pm

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In post 517, Color Orange wrote:
In post 270, Pentagon Shape wrote:
In post 220, Triangle Shape wrote:Pntagn alws bad hre.
trd usng me as ezkill.

we cnt vrify ne modQs clm. Ony clmd modQ aftr cll out.

ezpz.

"prgssn" mns i hv 2 stp txtspk... duck.
When you speak English and actually stop misrepping my posts, let me know.
I do not like this. I'm already slightly favoring triangle's position in the clash between you two specifically (I do not place much weight in the rest of the solve), and you telling them to talk normal this way feels like a shady discredit of their position. Someone also recently mentioned people complaining about the gimmick might be scum and this feels like it might be that.
getting frustrated at a gimmick is nai imo

both alignments would be irritated by it
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Post Post #571 (isolation #50) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:13 am

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i read the last two pages and it feels like a car spinning its wheels in the mud

does not feel like this is any meaningful sort of progress


for some perspective here: the top 6 posters in the game take up 75% of the non-mod posts in the game

this is not a healthy balance



Orange, I would please ask you to consider compressing your catch-up and working in a summary format rather than responding to each post individually. The way you are doing things now is both inordinately slow (you started off responding to posts that were 270 posts behind the current page. you are now responding to posts that are 220 posts behind the current page) and does not help for the sake of readability, either for the thread in general or for your alignment in particular. Nothing against you personally, I just feel your current approach to the thread could use some adjustment.


what i would like is to hear more from heart/diamond/green/star/yellow and a little less from the top posters in the game (and i include myself in that group)
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Post Post #575 (isolation #51) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 6:51 am

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what are your actual reads heart

the only opinions i can seem to find from you is that you think purple and arrow are town
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Post Post #579 (isolation #52) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:20 am

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In post 577, Heart Shape wrote:
In post 575, Circle Shape wrote:what are your actual reads heart

the only opinions i can seem to find from you is that you think purple and arrow are town
I don't have a whole lot yet. I think this preliminary stage isn't necessarily the best way to locktown or lockscum anyone.
i did not ask you to locktown or lockscum anyone

this seems a curious exaggeration on your part
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Post Post #638 (isolation #53) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:12 pm

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In post 585, Arrow Shape wrote:I wanna kill Pentagon now tbh. Circle's post on Pentagon is reasonable, but I actually do not think that their string of defensive posts was townie.
It's been awhile since I've seen a player basically say "how dare you scum read me, stop that" with multiple posts while pretending they aren't doing that.
i think to some extent it feels like town entitlement
In post 603, Pentagon Shape wrote:
In post 602, penguin_alien wrote:
Star Shape has been prodded.

In post 594, Pentagon Shape wrote:@mod what happens if no more pairs form before deadline?
In post 1, penguin_alien wrote:* Any players who are not paired by the end of Phase One will be paired at the scum team's discretion in a special 24 hour phase (Phase One Point Five).
So guaranteed a town dies with this then.
remember its not actually a dance game the player left out doesnt die

granted its not GOOD to let scum decide the pairs obv
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Post Post #651 (isolation #54) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:32 pm

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In post 630, Star Shape wrote:Oh shoot :T

I dunno what the other guy did but I promise I'm town
even though this is a nothing post i sort of want to believe it which i know is dumb

but vibes
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Post Post #653 (isolation #55) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:37 pm

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In post 631, Star Shape wrote:
In post 218, Color Orange wrote:Also unless Triangle promises to speak coherently in the PT, I will not be pairing with that one. I want to be able to actually discuss in a PT without having to decipher garbled text.
Being completely transparent, I disagree with the philosophy of the last star. I don't want to put trust in someone else. I'd like to lim whoever is taken out. I'm reading as much as I can before I do more stuff irl, but if you're willing to solve with me, I'd love to have you as my partner :)

pair: orange
wait but you want to elim the last shape that happens to be unpaired besides you just because without reading anything

how does that track
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Post Post #654 (isolation #56) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:40 pm

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In post 637, Star Shape wrote:
In post 633, Color Green wrote:
In post 631, Star Shape wrote:I'd like to lim whoever is taken out.
Are you scumreading Triangle, then?
Not necessarily what I'm saying. If I was here from the beginning I would be in the camp of not trusting whoever is left out because the ability to delay a pr can either be used maliciously by scum or haphazardly by town. I'd rather it being taken out to begin with. That would have been my starting philosophy.
oh i should read before reacting

my bad

time to let other people talk again
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Post Post #722 (isolation #57) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:35 am

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VOTE: Heart
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Post Post #730 (isolation #58) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:57 am

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i havent really processed new stars posts
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Post Post #738 (isolation #59) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:14 am

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In post 737, Color Blue wrote:I was stupid and didn't read the rules and thought we'd get our PTs right away.
same tbh i have been holding back on my reads with that in mind

dont want to end the day instantly or anything but feel all right with heart votes
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Post Post #751 (isolation #60) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:36 am

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i just generally have not liked hearts content

posts say things but do little

when i tried to prod on reads got shifty excuses in response

not fully sold that the quoted post is a perspective slip but that does feel like the useless type of read scum makes
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Post Post #752 (isolation #61) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:41 am

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i dont know what the actual problem arrow has with replacement greens content is

so far its been mostly pre role pm reads which i treat as nai
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Post Post #806 (isolation #62) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:56 pm

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In post 777, Star Shape wrote:Arrow feels rather stagnant, if you will?

His reads come across the same since the beginning of the game regarding green, pent, and orange. It doesn't feel like he's evolving that much throughout the game.
okay but on the other hand

there was not a ton of reason for most of those reads to evolve?

in particular green disappeared and had to be replaced so there was no new data to work with at all

nothing dramatic has happened with orange

pentagon has been contentious at least

but i dont know that static reads over 30 pages is suspicious when the game is stagnant especially with the lopsided posting distribution i mentioned earlier
In post 779, Star Shape wrote:I feel Heart is getting scumread based off playstyle n not content, if that makes sense
i feel like that is a weak defense especially when we do not know identities and cannot know if someone normally plays this way

i see people sorting

and then i see heart

who is saying things to appear relevant but is not sorting

and reacted to my asking for reads with a severe overexaggeration

you might assume that is playstyle

but that playstyle can just as easily be used as cover for doing nothing as scum
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Post Post #807 (isolation #63) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:01 pm

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read stars replacement content and am unimpressed

seems to be handing out town reads rather too easily

the one point of hesitation is he willingly earned the ire of orange when trying to pair and i dont know why scum willfully burns that bridge

but its somewhat minor

dont think is s/s with heart though
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Post Post #817 (isolation #64) » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:10 am

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In post 813, Color Purple wrote:And it is good to see you again, Yellow. Even though this might seem like a very bad pocket, your solving makes me further townread you.
none of yellows posts are any good
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Post Post #838 (isolation #65) » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:05 am

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In post 819, Color Red wrote:I think the problem isn't really trajectory so much as you have very palpable reads that were supposedly made pre-getting your role and then you don't seem to be following them afterward. You are giving the impression you changed some of your reads before your first post.
Wonder why that could be?



VOTE: Green
what reads is green not following he has given exactly 2 scumreads since replace in and been consistent on both
In post 823, Color Red wrote:I had to ask twice for the reasoning for their scumread on me TWICE before they actually provided it, and what they provided was a single extremely small case they seem to think has huge ramifications.
Does anyone not actively playing the game build cases like that? Would anyone actually playing the game build cases like that? It feels so obviously artificial at this point.
do day 1 reads have to be deep
In post 832, Color Blue wrote:
In post 831, Color Red wrote:Alternatively, they weren't satisfied with the gamestate as it was when they replaced in.
This would implicate the unpaired shapes as potential partners, but may not be the case.
I have a hard time believing someone can replace in, decide the game state is bad for their scum team and whip up a fake readslist in 12 minutes.
agree with this basically

i think all of greens reads are essentially legitimate and the things he is being attacked for are mostly nai

which doesnt equate to a townread

but i dont see green as a likely hit

pf course if people want to knock themselves out on that they can go for it
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Post Post #839 (isolation #66) » Wed Nov 24, 2021 7:07 am

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calling it now yellow is the scumbag for this game that people will let coast too long for ?reasons?
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Post Post #872 (isolation #67) » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:17 am

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In post 868, Heart Shape wrote:Okay thanks. I thought we would have the PTs after the pairings so that changes what I was doing a bit.
what were you doing
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Post Post #875 (isolation #68) » Wed Nov 24, 2021 10:21 am

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annoying that that is kind of towny because i was planning on similar

UNVOTE:

enough for a reprieve while i focus attention elsewhere

(i guess scum can work that angle too but maybe not as overt about it)
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Post Post #952 (isolation #69) » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:24 pm

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Been busy today with thanksgiving, probably not going to be able to catch up on anything right now. Tomorrow~
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Post Post #1008 (isolation #70) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:06 am

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In post 1005, Star Shape wrote:
In post 1001, Arrow Shape wrote:
In post 998, Star Shape wrote:A green flip would be better for info.

I don't see what useful information we'd get out of flipping Heart d1 atp
How so?
Hearts votes are so “omgus” but there’s actual debate around Green. Green flipping and then the NK should give us great associatives moving forward.
VOTE: Star

Tomorrow turned into a couple days, but wow, I do not like this post.
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Post Post #1009 (isolation #71) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:01 am

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In post 878, Heart Shape wrote:Unless we no lim, which I'm not a fan of.
In post 986, Heart Shape wrote:Thinking about it, I think this is the right play.

VOTE: no lim
Explain your change on your view here, Heart?
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Post Post #1012 (isolation #72) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:45 am

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In post 920, Star Shape wrote:
In post 783, Color Green wrote:
In post 777, Star Shape wrote:Arrow feels rather stagnant, if you will?

His reads come across the same since the beginning of the game regarding green, pent, and orange. It doesn't feel like he's evolving that much throughout the game.
I still don't think willingly shoving his head into the obtuse sands time and time again while also admitting fault comes from scum, like, ever, though.
Thats taking the defense of its so stupid it can’t come from scum which I don’t think is a strong enough defense lol
In post 937, Star Shape wrote:Anywho, sorry for the wall but I’m more caught up.

Arrow looks more town and Green is more scum so

VOTE: Green

Again, I’m genuinely impartial on who should be delayed if at all.
In post 998, Star Shape wrote:A green flip would be better for info.

I don't see what useful information we'd get out of flipping Heart d1 atp
In post 1004, Star Shape wrote:
In post 1003, Color Blue wrote:
In post 998, Star Shape wrote:A green flip would be better for info.

I don't see what useful information we'd get out of flipping Heart d1 atp

Do you feel that Green is more likely to be mafia than heart or is this just for information?
I’m not confident enough to push for a scum wagon atp, so ye am info push on a slot I slightly scum read.
In post 1005, Star Shape wrote:
In post 1001, Arrow Shape wrote:
In post 998, Star Shape wrote:A green flip would be better for info.

I don't see what useful information we'd get out of flipping Heart d1 atp
How so?
Hearts votes are so “omgus” but there’s actual debate around Green. Green flipping and then the NK should give us great associatives moving forward.
Star has no actual justification for voting Green. There's just...nothing.

I also think circle's response to pressure is looking...bad, but I'm not fully caught up on that yet.
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Post Post #1014 (isolation #73) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:48 am

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In post 1010, Color Green wrote:We're at the "pasta" stage of the Heart elimination, folks.

Aka "throw shit to the wall and hope it sticks"

Hence why past-heart and current-heart disagree so visibly about nolim.
You're probably right
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Post Post #1040 (isolation #74) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:31 am

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In post 963, Color Blue wrote:
In post 952, Circle Shape wrote:Been busy today with thanksgiving, probably not going to be able to catch up on anything right now. Tomorrow~


I hope you had a good thanksgiving ~!

I do miss your presence.



Spoiler: A Song For You



You never did tell me what kind of music you liked!
Ah, unfortunate that the copyright gargoyles seem to have taken this track before I could see it...

I listen to a lot of stuff, depending on where my interests are at the moment. This is what I'm listening to right now:

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Post Post #1041 (isolation #75) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 11:31 am

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I'll probably take hammer on Heart, but I want to be able to finish catching up first~
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Post Post #1050 (isolation #76) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:45 pm

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w/r/t : It was less about procrastination and more about the idea of deliberately holding back reads to wait to out them in private. Which, of course, anyone
can
do (or say they're doing) but I feel as though scum are less likely to take that approach as they're more conerned with actually looking good in-thread. Which was enough to give Heart space. But in my glances at the game it seems like Heart might not have delivered.

Not really impressed with the reasoning in , Heart's scumreads are all very tepid.

Strongly disagree with , that string of posts from Yellow is pretty bad. I once again find myself staring in confusion at 900 by Orange, because I don't get why Heart comes across as genuine. I don't think this disagreement is necessarily scum-indicatve I just mostly find that I'm not connecting with Orange's thinking at all. In fact usually when someone has strong opinions that I disagree with heavily they're usually town. Genuine belief or something.

I, again, am curious as to what Red sees in Heart's posts based on . I disagree fairly hard with in the sense that heart just looks like a hit, he's not saying anything useful at all and has effectively shut down in response to pressure - LHF tends to flail, Heart has stopped beating entirely. I'm not actually sure red takes this track with a partner, but meh.


Most of the stuff I wanted to comment on after catching up was heart-based. I'm good to hammer but I guess I can wait some if other people want to catch up as well? Don't want to be unfair. (*~▽~)
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Post Post #1053 (isolation #77) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 12:52 pm

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I don't see a good reason to use your ability, really
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Post Post #1067 (isolation #78) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:52 pm

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In post 1065, Color Blue wrote:
In post 1040, Circle Shape wrote:Ah, unfortunate that the copyright gargoyles seem to have taken this track before I could see it...

Oh that's unfortunate!

I hope you had a great Thanksgiving Break and I'm glad to see you are back 8)

Spoiler: Music
to link something in youtube, just use the [youtube] [youtube] tags but with just the letters after v= to embed the link.

I don't usually listen to electro-pop, I think I have trouble understanding it?

I like many different types of music - romantic ballads, country, soft jazz, classics etc.

Here's something I'm listening to right now from one of my favorite composers:




Are there other things you want to discuss before the day ends?

It does feel a bit abbreviated and people don't seem to be around much.

I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Spoiler: Music
Oh dear, I forgot to proofread my post because it was in spoiler tags >_>

If we're talking genres, I mostly stick to rock/indie, with a little bit of electronic stuff, occasionally dabble in ambient when I want something to put on in the background at work or something to fall asleep to.

I don't know much Hisaishi, but I really love his soundtrack for Sonatine - so memorably haunting, fits the mood of that movie so well.


As far as the game goes, I don't have a ton of commentary to add right now, things have slowed down, happy with the direction, we can evaluate more overnight after the flip.
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Post Post #1079 (isolation #79) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 6:42 am

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New yellow's posts are fine. Enough to quell the ire I had for the first one.
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Post Post #1094 (isolation #80) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:56 am

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In post 1092, Color Yellow wrote:
In post 1090, Color Yellow wrote:Questions? Comments? Exclamations?
This is to everyone.
Mmmmm. Thoughts on where to look after heart flips, depending on alignment? (I'm assuming heart shutting down means he's scum, but always good to consider contingencies)
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Post Post #1099 (isolation #81) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 10:12 am

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In post 1098, Color Yellow wrote:
In post 1094, Circle Shape wrote:
In post 1092, Color Yellow wrote:
In post 1090, Color Yellow wrote:Questions? Comments? Exclamations?
This is to everyone.
Mmmmm. Thoughts on where to look after heart flips, depending on alignment? (I'm assuming heart shutting down means he's scum, but always good to consider contingencies)
I'm mostly assuming that, too. I didn't like the content of his last series of posts about 5 pages back. But, there was a fair amount of effort to it.

If they're town, I'll want to rethink Red. It's possible scum-Red would take their side, but the potential downside if Heart's wagon faded was Red looks like the player votes would flow to.

I'd want to look harder at Star and maybe Pentagon.

Where would you want to look?
I don't have a good idea, that's why I was asking~

Red probably does look worse but I'd need to reread to be sure.
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Post Post #1112 (isolation #82) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 11:07 am

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VOTE: Heart
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