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@Wisdom,

Mod said I was vanillized N1, but I opened the casket during the day.
Also I got the same casket today and picked right and the effect is pretty pro town, though this time I picked the casket during the night phase. Or at least pretty wifomy.

-Bell

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I don't think so.

-Bell

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I didn't like it either tbh. Will return to this when I'm less irritated.

Wait, why didn't you like your own post?

-Bell

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Okay, you guys are ready to run me up. Cool cool cool.

Might as well claim.

I'm Oberon's Flower. I make people fall in love. 'Twas I who loverized Galron and Icebox. I had a good scumread on Galron and I was nullish at best on Icebox after d1 (townier since then!). Several of you expressed that loverizing seemed like a scum ability; maybe it usually is (this is my first game with the mechanic), but this time it isn't. I had an ability and didn't want to die with it in my pocket. I do not know why they subsequently fell out of love, but something must have happened to nullify it because my ability was still "spent".

I can loverize again if the opportunity arises for me to repurchase the ability, but it hasn't come up yet, so I'm a vanilla townie right now. As such I do make sense as an elimination target, as until something unforeseen happens, I can't add any intel or affect the game in any meaningful way. I can think of one pair I'm curious to loverize if given the chance, but who knows if that'll happen or if you will let me live that long.

Anyway, watch the vote counts. There is opportunism afoot.

And I wrote you guys a damn sonnet, too.

Probably done posting for tonight!

Wow.

-Bell

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The scummiest thing Pav has done this game is apologize in the neighborhood but not in thread
I'm only half joking.

-Bell

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LLD's role is townie, but not confirm town.

-Bell

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Q, OTH marc head.
How am I hard to read?

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LLD's role is townie, but not confirm town.

-Bell

Canst thou, like, elaborate?

No.

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wisdom can I ask you something kinda odd, I'm trying to work on our sonnet and want to put in a reference to you but I want to make it poetic and idrk what would fit you as a poetic description

-GE

Compare him favorably to a brick.

@Notty, goooooood luck with that.

-Bell

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Does Cephrir not like being scum?

-Bell

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You guys really shouldn't post in neighborhoods unless forced to, it's just easier for scum to manipulate smaller crowds.
Both Bowser and Pav have shown inconsistency in their play between the neighborhood and in thread.

-Bell

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Hi Lukewarm. If you were scum what would you be doing this game that you aren't doing here?
Also, I'm vetoing LLD as a lim today.

-Bell

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She's somebody I might paranoia lim way down the line when I get desperate from all the misreads I didn't secretly have.

-Bell

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VOTE: OTH

Yes.

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VOTE: Wisdom

Something is off.

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Bowser and Pav are officially annoying me if they're town. All is forgiven if they're scum. I don't like how relaxed Pav is in the neighborhood in contrast to here.
I don't like that Bowser is not really doing anything. ...Even though that's kind of what they usually do. Maybe, I'm being hard on them due to elevated expectations. Eh, they still hard pushed Galron. Forget it.
Wait actually, does anyone know Notty's or Spiffeh's approach to bussing.
I actually can't remember it.

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Wisdom just feels wrong. He keeps going back and forth.

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Wisdom just feels wrong. He keeps going back and forth.

Is he, though? He reversed course on me but that took him a few days and if anything it's a towny look that he did... His reason for switching course on me doesn't jive with scum trying for a miselim on me and getting bored or thinking it won't happen. Plenty of folks here still ready to vote me.

Er, if he can afford not to vote you and you're a miselim, then why would he vote you

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Dear bell

I don’t have the same time for games I used to

Love notty

Fine.

Dear Pav,
Wisdom's approach to you makes perfect sense for scum him to do.
He doesn't need to get his hands dirty. You die anyway. Win/Win.

-Bell

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VOTE: Wisdom

Something is off.

What about a Pav Wisdom team?

I feel Wisdom is leaning awfully hard into a mech clear when mech can just as easily select the opposite.

I really don't do pairings before flips. The chances of me being right on a read is so low already that why would I make it even more unlikely by pairing someone before I know if one of them is scum.
I think Wisdom's angle is weird though, yeah.

Why are we letting OTH live. There's like 2 or 3 claims on the floor that are pretty much: "Just let me live for a while and I'll be useful, I promise"

-Bell

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VOTE: OTH

I'll be here to switch vote if needed,

-Bell

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Yo.

Can confirm what LLD said about self watching and only being visited by Gamma and me and herself.

-Bell

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Did Pav do a poem.

-Bell

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Also, @Bowser, Pav, Lukewarm.
You're all towels.

Also, Bowser, thoughts on LLD's claim?

-Bell

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How much gold do you have and how much gold do you need for your ability?

-Bell

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They just keep extending with the excuses.
I'm only slightly confused because they claimed what they claimed after their claim would have come out as demonstrably false.

Titus, what you're saying is that if they're being truthful about their claim than they can't night kill again because their own role would block them and to that I say.
Why are you assuming that

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They just keep extending with the excuses.
I'm only slightly confused because they claimed what they claimed after their claim would have come out as demonstrably false.

Titus, what you're saying is that if they're being truthful about their claim than they can't night kill again because their own role would block them and to that I say.
Why are you assuming that

I think Titus is saying that scum!CoF would be forced to no kill in order to keep their fake claim believable, so leaving them could save us a night kill either way.

option 1: cof is a town dreaming god with a kill stop, or
option 2: cof is forced to no kill

No, I got that. But this is ignoring the billion reasons why you don't let players live over night because of a claim.It gives scum opportunity for more night shenanigans and widens their options during the night. COF said they were posioned and gunna die N3, in retrospect once they claimed tempest it should have been obvious they were lying, now they say they're a god that blocked the kills but there are clear contradictions and alternate explanations for why there wasn't a night kill. Now they say they can do it again if you just let them live, please, one more time.

and I'm like.
Why

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Wait, so you're saying that a claim of bulletproof would be suspicious so you wanted to lie about it?

-Bell

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I guess that explains OTH's earlier result. Why didn't you jail keep anyone tho?

-Bell

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Anyways, does anyone have any thoughts on 2985 before we just kill enchant?

My mouth hurts. That's about it. Uh besides that we should probably just kill both of them.

-Bell

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I'm looking back at Cephir, and I am unsure why he voted OTH in 2114. OTH claimed that they were a town vig that shot at him over night before that vote in 2069.

I feel like there were plenty of people suspectic OTH because they claimed to be self clearing, but were suddenly backpeddling on if they could. But seeing the full claim, Cephir should have immediately known why their clear failed since he was bulletproof.

I kind of feel like he should have then believed that they were town, since there still was a mafia kill that night, so this shot at him had to come from a vig.

Like, from his pov, OTH was either a town vig, or they were scum who knew he was bulletproof and then made up their claim to fit with it.

I don't like the vote, but he does walk it back soon after in 2169. So maybe that was him realizing that? I wish he was here for me to ask

This is a good post.

-Bell

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Focused elsewhere. Will focus here later~

-Bell

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VOTE: Enchant

Bye.

Shocked Pikachu gif.
This poor scum team just can't catch a break.

-Bell

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VOTE: COF

I'd like to thank the rest of the town for this undeserved victory.

-Bell

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Holy shit I hate this game now.

-Bell

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Can confirm.

Forgive my ignorance but why isn't it just pavowski?

-Bell

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Also, I think I missed the skybird clear.

-Bell

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Pretty sure you didn't say that 2 day phases ago.

-Bell

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Couldn't they have done it for wif--
ahahaha yeah okay no.
That's cool.


-Bell

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Bell look into my eyes

Am I scum

Yes.

-Bell

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Can confirm.

Forgive my ignorance but why isn't it just pavowski?

-Bell

Because we blocked ceph elim obv so our proven claim isn’t proven and we clearly can do more than just post restrict

Wasn't he bullet proof?

-Bell

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It just occurred to me that Wisdom's play makes perfect sense now.

That bastard.

-Bell

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If I get to melo I will actually die.

-Bell

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Why wasn't I neighborized when I got restricted?

-Bell

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I can probably focus on this in 3 days or 4. My focus is elsewhere.

There was no relationship in your role pm related to me? Just luke and Pav?

-Bell

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I'm not sure I believe you, but I also don't want to discourage you if you're town.
Maybe I am a towel for saying this.
Saying it anyway.
I respect LLD's game a lot. so I'll probably just end up sheeping her after independently verifying her arguments and seeing if it fits for me.

-Bell

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There's a reason I didn't post in there and it's mainly because of what you're complaining about.

-Bell

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This was only the case because I posted most of those observations here and even then I'd argue a lot has been lost.

-Bell

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bottleneck

VOTE: deas

Dayvig: Galron

Not again...

Cool avi tho.

Cut my throat and thieve my gold.

Vote: Galron

I anticipate much thumb biting

Do you quarrel, sir?

Hi there person I don't think I've played with before,

how you doin?

-Bell

Hi, I'm doing fine. Not sure if you were meaning me, so pardon if you did not.

Obligatory question here, what is your favorite Shakespeare play? (I'm assuming you all have one!)

Me, I love Midsummer, love it love it love it.

(No, this is not my way of tricking some of you into posting a lot to miss out on your coin bonus, nope not at all)

hi wisdom, gamma, cephrir, dunn, lld, guilty lion, notsci, the dude, luke, marci, bell, gif... I don't know how tweet does it.

Hi, whats your favorite ice cream

VOTE: Matey Ceph

YAAAAAAAAAR

Obligatory question here, what is your favorite Shakespeare play? (I'm assuming you all have one!)

Me, I love Midsummer, love it love it love it.

(No, this is not my way of tricking some of you into posting a lot to miss out on your coin bonus, nope not at all)

I'm a sucker for the classics but my actual favorite might be Much Ado About Nothing.
And I don't think a simple question would be enough to miss the bonus, though I also don't expect that to be much of a worry for me via probably being a bit removed for a time.

-Gamma

I also love Much Ado. I even played Benedick once.

Yeah, I don't actually expect anybody to miss the bonus. 150 posts is a lot.

[quote="In post 33
This is a surprisingly slow start for this game
Someone post something scummy.
-Bell

I got scumread HARD in my first "normal" game onsite for saying "a plague on your house if you're mafia" so here you go

If you're mafia, then a plague upon your house

A PLAGUE I SAY

Obligatory question here, what is your favorite Shakespeare play? (I'm assuming you all have one!)

Me, I love Midsummer, love it love it love it.

(No, this is not my way of tricking some of you into posting a lot to miss out on your coin bonus, nope not at all)

I bethink not this a valorous question to answer as it doest hint at our origins

Obligatory question here, what is your favorite Shakespeare play? (I'm assuming you all have one!)

Me, I love Midsummer, love it love it love it.

(No, this is not my way of tricking some of you into posting a lot to miss out on your coin bonus, nope not at all)

I bethink not this a valorous question to answer as it doest hint at our origins

Mayhap it be so, mayhap it be ... no

Hello, I am excited to play a fun mafia game with all of you

~Spiffy

Anyone find any scum yet?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!!

~Spiffy

@Pav, I am offended

I both answered your question for my favorite play AND called it out for flavor fishing, and you skipped over both of those, just to respond to Gamma's answer to his favorite play and to Dunn's post calling it flavor fishing.

Say that thou didst forsake me for some fault,
And I will comment upon that offence:
Speak of my lameness, and I straight will halt,
Against thy reasons making no defence.

Also it's only flavor fishing if you *think* it's flavor fishing

For all you know I might be telling the truth!

Pav, youre being so hostile. I am just out here begging for your attention

You ignored my post, and it filled me with sadness

You have my complete and undivided

I HAVE NOT FORGOTTEN THE IMAGE YOU MADE

That picture makes me laugh just thinking about it

Spoiler: The Image, for those curious

And not just the text I added. The fact that that is a real image pulled from SailorMoon Crystal. It was by far the funniest scene of the show lmoa

And you never did get to shoot me. Or blow me up.

So are we on the same team this time?

Thou hast an opportunity to earn one extra

gold coin

today. Be ye terse and it shall be thine. All in the Troupe who make fewer than 150 posts this game day shall earn it.

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I has't nay needeth f'r thy gold, and i shalt speaketh out one hundr'd times without rest 'gainst the evil yond tries to corrupt our hearts

VOTE: Bowser Jr.

If people are going to talk in Shakespeare I'm royally screwed.

Nothing against you Dunn.

hi wisdom, gamma, cephrir, dunn, lld, guilty lion, notsci, the dude, luke, marci, bell, gif... I don't know how tweet does it.

Hi, whats your favorite ice cream

VOTE: Matey Ceph

YAAAAAAAAAR

I don't understand the ice cream thing.

If people are going to talk in Shakespeare I'm royally screwed.

Just throw in some thee's and thou's and verily's, and you'll be most tippy-top

I thought today was about comedy.

Laughter is the best medicine, but today is for hunting scoundrels

Pav, youre being so hostile. I am just out here begging for your attention

You ignored my post, and it filled me with sadness

You have my complete and undivided

Huh...

Now I don't know what I want to do with it

Anything stuck out to you so far?

(for me it is a specific hydra)

I got nothing so far, I am busy memeing and speaking Shakespearily and, apparently, flavour fishing

Though Dunnstral's refusal to partake in said fishing could reflect most unfavourably if his visage be enshroud'd

Or, y'know, maybe it means naught

Though Dunnstral's refusal to partake in said fishing could reflect most unfavourably if his visage be enshroud'd

But his bardspeak is on point so I will stay my vote and let my scumread die i' my throat

My Cephrir, you inspire me to write.
How I hate the way you lie and attack,
Invading my mind day and through the night,
Always dreaming about the cold push back.

Let me compare you to a wild wolfcub?
You are more cruel, loathsome and scary.
Dark storms whip the twiglets of October,
And autumntime has the fiduciary.

How do I hate you? Let me count the ways.
I hate your bold attitude, eyes and legs.
Thinking of your deadly eyes fills my days.
My hate for you is the nocturnal eggs.

Now I must away with a benchmark heart,
Remember my old words whilst we're apart.

VOTE: Cephrir

Post 27 looks like hint dropping about their actual role. But I

might've

definitely missed the reference.
Not feeling much so far. I don't really like how Pav navigated the early suspicion and how he responded to lukewarm. It seems sort of fit-inny.
It should be noted that his attempt was successful, I think. Everyone that responded brought up the actual play they were from. The accusation by Dunstral was generic, but it's rvs.
I'm kind of waiting to see what Galron does with the ice cream thing because it might be PT indicative.
Scum team was a tad bus happy.
-Bell

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Ah, shit. I said I wouldn't try.

-Bell

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My Cephrir, you inspire me to write.
How I hate the way you lie and attack,
Invading my mind day and through the night,
Always dreaming about the cold push back.

Let me compare you to a wild wolfcub?
You are more cruel, loathsome and scary.
Dark storms whip the twiglets of October,
And autumntime has the fiduciary.

How do I hate you? Let me count the ways.
I hate your bold attitude, eyes and legs.
Thinking of your deadly eyes fills my days.
My hate for you is the nocturnal eggs.

Now I must away with a benchmark heart,
Remember my old words whilst we're apart.

VOTE: Cephrir

This crazy sob wrote a damn sonnet to cast a vote, I have to sheep it

VOTE: Ceph

"The nocturnal eggs" I am dying

I don't care if Juliet is scum, we can never lim her in this game.

Er um I mean

Let not the sun rise on the day
We place fair Juliet in harm's way

And those that wish her ill, beware
My wrath 'pon thee I will not spare

VOTE: Bowser Junior

Nah Marci it's too early for me to have any real takes on anybody here yet. I am just impressed with the verse and I think Juliet should make it to endgame for all the effort she's putting in

That said, going ham with the iambic pentameter could be decent scum cover but I'm not actually advancing that theory at the mo

have i ever played with u spif? i dont remember if i have, but what i do think is that these post have bad vibes!@@!#@!%

Nope I don't think we've played together.

And that's a bummer, if it helps just write us off as Town and never question it and we'll be in good shape? We are undisputedly Town so as long as you're Town too there's absolutely no risk for you whatsoever!

On another note, Bell, this is from notty: "We have three townreads already, you need to catch up"

~Spiffy

I am just impressed with the verse and I think Juliet should make it to endgame for all the effort she's putting in

I bethink thee has't react'd in an exaggerat'd way towards juliet's efforts. The lady hast but writ a verse 'r two and thee has't scrambl'd f'r that lady favor, and madeth a point to alloweth everyone knoweth

Spoiler:

(this vote gets you two birds with one stone, if you know what I mean. By my troth, its a winner)

yes sir

hi wisdom, gamma, cephrir, dunn, lld, guilty lion, notsci, the dude, luke, marci, bell, gif... I don't know how tweet does it.

hi

Vote: Galron

good vote

(No, this is not my way of tricking some of you into posting a lot to miss out on your coin bonus, nope not at all)

if ur curious, i could answer your "obligatory question" you had, but i kinda dont have one.
why did u feel the need to say this..? no matter what you say im not about to miss out on my sweet sweet bonus coin.

37 luke, i think ur thinking too much about it, i doubt that was the intention behind pavs question.

Hello, I am excited to play a fun mafia game with all of you

~Spiffy

Anyone find any scum yet?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!!??!!

~Spiffy

have i ever played with u spif? i dont remember if i have, but what i do think is that these post have bad vibes!@@!#@!%

@Pav, I am offended

I both answered your question for my favorite play AND called it out for flavor fishing, and you skipped over both of those, just to respond to Gamma's answer to his favorite play and to Dunn's post calling it flavor fishing.

ur too pushy i think ur nervous bestieeee :3

Pavowski is town.

i have a townlean on pavowski as well, i think gamma does too

Pav, youre being so hostile. I am just out here begging for your attention

You ignored my post, and it filled me with sadness

why r u so focused on pav?

Anything stuck out to you so far?

(for me it is a specific hydra)

oo oo, spill the tea!! i hope its me, if not ill be very sad : - (

If people are going to talk in Shakespeare I'm royally screwed.

mood, idk what most of these words mean and im too lazy to google so im just gonna assume

- -

~M★

Hi Marci

I think that this might be an important question to divine you alignment :

Spoiler:

how do you feel about Mountain Dew Baja Blast?

To respond to your stuff re:me+pav, that was me shooting the shit. I was logged on, looking for someone to talk to. He was someone I knew who was posting, started talking.

Like I normally start out chatting with you, only you were not here. smh.

Not directed to me but sometimes when I see a Taco Bell, I'll treat myself to a Baja Blast. Props for the craving.

It seems like you're getting along with Pav pretty good. I agree nothing wrong with that. With marci, though, I sense some tension. Does that slot's treatment of Pav tell you anything?

I like that Tamora's Angel gave a Pav townread but not enough to feel comfortable about a townerad there

I don't understand. Why does Tamora's town read of Pavowski temper your own?

I think I wasn't clear there, TA townreading Pav is not enough for me to have a townread on TA, TA's read didn't impact my Pav read

Got it. What is you read on Pav then, or, to give you the benefit of the doubt, do you have a read on Pavowski?

yep

Dont see anything interesting yet so Im saving up on posts

Guilty Lion is town

yep

Dont see anything interesting yet so Im saving up on posts

What about Juliet and her lines?

What about them? I just see an unexplained GL vote

Whatever dude.

I HAVE NO READS RIGHT NOW AHHHHH

You can sheep me in thinking icebox is frozen scum

Lukewarm v. Pav in 49-67 vibes like town recognizing each other.

If people are going to talk in Shakespeare I'm royally screwed.

Just throw in some thee's and thou's and verily's, and you'll be most tippy-top

I thought today was about comedy.

Laughter is the best medicine, but today is for hunting scoundrels

This is what i was getting at:

Each day there is a new play to perform
Comedy today, Tragedy tomorrow

Dunno. I know Shakespeare wrote both comedies and tragedies, but I don't know if any of his works started as a comedy and ended as a tragedy. That's what went through my head -- will a comedy end in tragedy? It seems like maybe a description of RVS transforming into more serious game play. Or, assuming comedy > tragedy, is there something that makes it easier to find scum on Day 1 but harder on Day 2? Or odd Days vs even Days. But that seems like reading too much into it, and I end up just thinking is a couplet (if that's what couplet means) that is part of the colour and meaningless for game play.

Quick clear on JC for non-AI stuff, think could be joking. Advances a case on JC while also saying not currently going to push that case. He jumps on Ceph. Dunn calls him out. Marginally interested if Galron's next vote is a bus vote based on LLD jumping on him. Can't tell if Galron is interest checking for a pav lim or not. Galron seems to be typical informed scum so far and playing like newbie scum. Decides to town bin Luke and Pav. /: ~+ town pav.

-Bell

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Oh thank god Pokemon is ove
I can breath after screaming my head off for 3 weeks.

Can LLD still post? What do they think of Bowser's mechanics argument for why they can't be scum? I'm embarrassingly shitty at how roles work or how many actions scum can take in one night/day phase.

-Bell

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Oh thank god Pokemon is ove
I can breath after screaming my head off for 3 weeks.

Can LLD still post? What do they think of Bowser's mechanics argument for why they can't be scum? I'm embarrassingly shitty at how roles work or how many actions scum can take in one night/day phase.

-Bell

LLD can't post again. She said she was a le to post because she brought a potion from Wisdom.

Do you think Dunn could be the last scum?

I understand what Bowser is saying and it does seem like he would have had too many actions to do to be the last scum. So I am torn. I 'd like to sheep LLD. But if scum can use loverize again and we don't lim them, town is in deep shit.

Leaning that way RN tbh. Even though I should know better.

-Bell

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@Dunn: Why aren't you scum?

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VOTE: Juliet Capulet

Hi Dunnstral

Why?

~Spiffy

I want things to happen but I don't have any strong enough opinions to make things happen so I will settle for this:

marci/Gamma and Pavowski feel good
Whemestar and kinda Galron and Child of Fairies feel ungood

Everyone else is irrelevant.

VOTE: Whemestar

~Spiffy

FUCK that was quick

~Spiffy

And guiltylion feels town, but I don't think I've crossed swords with him so that's like a 10% confidence read right now.

Furthermore, yeet.

I'd really like Juliet to come back and talk about her naked vote.

Guilty Lion, Pavowski both strike me as town right now.

Not sure why DV wants to remove me from his list when I haven't done anything yet.

VOTE: Juliet

Disclaimer: Phone posting and this was from memory of things.

OTH town, pav probably town, DV adorable (this isn't a townread <3), think i liked a TA post at some point

VOTE: whemestar because it's the hippest trend and i'm not finding anything particularly compelling

@Notty, okay new job. You said you had 3 reads though and then later posted that you had nothing to say because no one had said anything of note.
How.

You know which type of reads I prioritize

I’m waiting for more of that type

Marci is scared of playing scum, especially after getting dunked in three hours by multiple players in this game

She played a similar scared game as scum in my game with her after that, and this looks like night and day compared to those. There is a grain of salt that gamma could be coaching, but atm I’m fine with what Marci is doing

@luke- I actually didn’t like her early I just wanted to give her 72 hours first (so she could play for 24x as long as tarot) and by that point a certain gambit was under way. But I didn’t like her intro, no, nor did I agree with the write offs for her showing emotion

I’d say you could ask my other head but you can’t so

Oof Bell not a good look

~Spiffy

I'd really like Juliet to come back and talk about her naked vote.

Guilty Lion, Pavowski both strike me as town right now.

Not sure why DV wants to remove me from his list when I haven't done anything yet.

VOTE: Juliet

Disclaimer: Phone posting and this was from memory of things.

I didn't like how the justification for the vote in 103 feels very overexplanatory

You're a towel.

-Bell

You know damn well I could hit your meta if I wanted to lmao

What do you have for me

Vote: Bowser Jr.

Nobody got my joke here and it has left me in despair

Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Your program is kind,
And so are you.

Orchids are white,
Ghost ones are rare,
My dress is black,
And so is your hair.

Magnolia grows,
With buds like eggs,
Cells are smooth,
And so are your legs.

Sunflowers reach,
Up to the skies,
The dress is blue,
And so are your eyes.

Foxgloves in hedges,
Surround the farms,
Cells are hairy,
And so are your arms.

Daisies are pretty,
Daffies have style,
My climate is warm,
And so is your smile.

Heaven is beautiful,
Just like you.

You’re a towel

You're a towel.

-Bell

Fabric drape of lily white
Reinforced seams to grip so tight
This noble drape, what an insult be
Methinks that this is TvT

I call people who scumread me towels regardless of my alignment

Bells due for paranoia just leave him be in enjoying the attention

I call people who scumread me towels regardless of my alignment

Bells due for paranoia just leave him be in enjoying the attention

I will scumread you for one post if you'll call me a towel

You’re a towel

You’re a towel

VOTE: Bowser

I enjoyed that

We now resume our regularly scheduled programming

VOTE: Wheme

Luke calling out his own scum tactics WRT Marci has to be the biggest towntell I've seen from Luke on d1

I wonder if I will be able to see this game clearly from his pocket

and I call bs on "We’re also trying to conserve posts for the extra coin, so you calling out inactivity is a pretty bad look actually"

We get 150 posts in all of day 1. When I "called you out" as you put it, you had a total of 8 posts combined between the two of you. There is a difference in conserving your post count and not being active.

And why the [!!$!] are you activity reading us in the first place? Go look at the activity overview for Final Fantasy XIV mafia, my hydra was one of the top posters overall, and held the top spot until I think D3 when Mandelbrot passed us. I CAN POST JUST FINE AS SCUM, PAL!!!

-GE

Am I taking crazy pills? What is the town motivation for this post?

I'm trying to townread your slot GE

The following players have made me feel good about them at some point in this game: {Pavowski, Lukewarm, marci/Gamma, Bell/GIF, GuiltyLion, Skybird}

I am proud of each and every one of you for your achievements.

Hey Bell or marci you wanna chat? I have nothing in mind but I would like you both to say things to me that will get me more engaged <------- This is an open invitation to anyone itg that happens to be around!

~Spiffy

I just realized I have at least vague townreads on all the people that are actually trying and Skybird but idc right now

(Not that Skybird's not trying, just wouldn't put her in the same category as the other five)

~Spiffy

Sigh. 6-10 are pretty much Bowser and Pav vying for who is making the most scummy posts, while Dunnstrall is just absent.

-Bell

[Icebox]

Actually, while I know they’re referencing Sircakez and his misuse of the word ‘logic’
I don’t know what else they’re really getting at.
The comparison doesn’t really fit to me.

-Bell

[Icebox]

So far, neither have really engaged ceph, while JC seems to be treating Pav similarly to ceph but not remarkably so. Is anyone going to straight up answer whether Bowser is clear or not based on their claim?

It’s kind of unlike Dunnstrall not to validate their reasoning in a vote at this stage of the game. Rather, they’re not addressing the mechanics, when they should, and should be capable of doing so (history of messing up those sorts of observations not withstanding).

-Bell

[Icebox]

I had movie night last night, and alas, missed all this fun!

I don't think I've played with Pavowski before but his posts ping town to me.

Is this sarcasm

-Bell

Not at all.

The following players have made me feel good about them at some point in this game: {Pavowski, Lukewarm, marci/Gamma, Bell/GIF, GuiltyLion, Skybird}

I am proud of each and every one of you for your achievements.

Hey Bell or marci you wanna chat? I have nothing in mind but I would like you both to say things to me that will get me more engaged <------- This is an open invitation to anyone itg that happens to be around!

~Spiffy

Vote: Bowser Jr.

UNVOTE: Child of Fairies
VOTE: Bowser Jr.

This is not really indication of a change of read on CoF, but more that Bowser Jr. seems to be trying oh so hard to insert themselves into some kind of cool kids towncore despite not really doing anything town.

I'd really like Juliet to come back and talk about her naked vote.

Guilty Lion, Pavowski both strike me as town right now.

Not sure why DV wants to remove me from his list when I haven't done anything yet.

VOTE: Juliet

Disclaimer: Phone posting and this was from memory of things.

I didn't like how the justification for the vote in 103 feels very overexplanatory

GL has posted a lot more since then. Do you still feel suspicious about that slot?

@GL, my apologies for calling you a slot. I couldn't remember your pronouns.

I dont think Gamma would tell her to antagonize me

The lady is a beast who is't cannot beest did contain by mere words, a wild animal who is't liveth off instinct and feeleth high-lone.

I bethink juliet is lacking thoughts, and the mistress is did treat like delicate mildew upon a spring leaf f'r their style.

the juni'r seemeth to beest afflict'd with darkness. Begone foul thing, from whither thee cameth.

VOTE: Bowser Jr.

LLD, DV, etc. let me help you out:

if it helps just write us off as Town and never question it and we'll be in good shape? We are undisputedly Town so as long as you're Town too there's absolutely no risk for you whatsoever

Given the resurfacing of the above post I will give you both 48 hours to find another place for your votes.

Thank you for your consideration swift action in this matter.

PEdit: Dunnstral this now applies to you as well.

~Spiffy

Hi I’m Bell and I would chat with you because I totally read this game twice wow I am totally motivated and stuff.
What do you want to talk about in general?

Now's not a great time cuz I have to start working but

What do you think about the votes on us? I wasn't thrilled with DV's but rereading my post asking to be engaged by you and marci I can squint and kinda see how he got there, but overall feels like a reach to me.

I do think it's odd that he criticizes us for trying too hard to get in a townbloc and then proceeds to buddy (imo) LLD by saying he agrees with her despite her having only voted this entire game.

~Spiffy

Begone beldams, playeth not tricks of the mind

I don’t think there’s anything fundamentally different between suspicion and criticism in this context.

I can elaborate on why I called your agreement with LLD buddying: LLD has done nothing but vote this entire game, which is fine, but your explicitly calling out that you agree with her feels unearned because she hasn’t expressed an opinion to be agreed with outside of what we can assume from her votes.

It felt to me that you were trying to endear yourself to her, and seeing as LLD is a very influential Town player I could see scum trying to cozy up to her.

~Spiffy

why does suspicion = criticism? Why does agreement = buddying?

So many things are suddenly becoming other things and it reeks of creating narratives where no such narratives exist

This post illustrates a pattern with your approach to us so far: in the post where you vote us, you seem to take issue with the post where I list out all my townreads and ask for a few of them to engage with me about the game. You immediately assume the worst and claim that we are trying to get in a townbloc instead of just having some town reads and wanting to talk to them about the game.

The above quoted post paints my actions as “creating narratives” which feels like a reach and is a buzz-phrase that gives you a convenient excuse to double down on your vote as our wagon grows.

I understand that the nature of mafia requires you to look for scum motivation in everyone’s posts, but your handling of your push on us in both these cases feels like you came into the read with the intention of scum reading us and are looking for things that will reinforce that. This, along with my point about LLD above, makes me happy to

VOTE: DeasVail

Also 47 hours until all votes on us must be removed.

~Spiffy

I could probably join a Bowser wagon, I like the main voters on it and I feel Bowser's reasoning on DV is convoluted in an uncomfortable way

I agree, I think bowser is super scummy

Wtf dont attack daddy bowser's good name like this

For the record I still think wheme isn’t town enough but I want to let spiffy do his thing

You have any other spicy townreads ceph?

Unless GuiltyLion is a spicy townread, no

Unless GuiltyLion is a spicy townread, no

You think the whole wagon on me is town?

I am asking I am not implying that’s what that post says

Oh, you aren't daddy bowser, you're baby bowser. I was shitposting

I was confused by the votes on you until DV explained. I'm not especially scumreading you either, but I'm fine with it now

Oh, you aren't daddy bowser, you're baby bowser. I was shitposting

I was confused by the votes on you until DV explained. I'm not especially scumreading you either, but I'm fine with it now

B-but ima big turtle

Koopas are the babies

LLD, DV, etc. let me help you out:

if it helps just write us off as Town and never question it and we'll be in good shape? We are undisputedly Town so as long as you're Town too there's absolutely no risk for you whatsoever

Given the resurfacing of the above post I will give you both 48 hours to find another place for your votes.

Thank you for your consideration swift action in this matter.

PEdit: Dunnstral this now applies to you as well.

~Spiffy

Unvote

...

Vote: Bowser Jr.

WhemeStar, looking through your iso doesn't give me many reasons not to vote you. Do you have any reads besides getting scum pings from Pavo?

LLD, what does it mean that you voted Bowser Jr. Three posts in a row? This is probably a rhetorical question since it looks like LLD has a post restriction.

VOTE: Bowser Jr

I have greater confidence in my scumread on COF but I don't have any real reasons to townread Bowser Jr and this wagon is better than the Wheme wagon

actually, upon review, i'd be game to help you with that.

VOTE: child of fairies

@Notty, sure. Tell me a little bit about why you're a wet towel this game.

because I’m scum

I’m still solving and developing reads, just behind the scenes atm. I agree with spiffys list, plus a few extra. We disagreed one another person (over the same post actually)

Let’s pretend I’m town- who’s scum

I think I want to vote skybird hmmm

How strange to say this but not do it

I have to pretend?
Okay

-Bell

I mean if you aren’t pretending that just means you know I’m town and are voting me out of paranoia and/or spite

I don't get the skybird sus, there seems like barely anything there

{Pavowski, Lukewarm, marci/Gamma, Bell/GIF, GuiltyLion, Skybird}

Add Ceph, strongest read is Marci followed by you despite you being a towel, followed by pavowski into lukewarm into guilty, then skybird into ceph

I think wheme is probscum at this point.

Just so you know I rolled town Pavowski. I thought I'd do it early enough to annoy you.
Actually, usually I spam that, but I sort of stopped recently. Dunno why. Probably because I obvtown so hard I don't need to repeat it all the time.

-Bell

He who is innocent rarely has to say it
He who is guilty cant stop

How dare you accuse me of paranoia.

-Bell

You’re going to flavor leaf my every game until I flip scum aren’t you

I’m letting my lovely partner spread his wings while I sit back and get reads

Plus I can’t mock my wagon if I’m not the leading wagon

I don't get the skybird sus, there seems like barely anything there

Ya know, I iso'd them and thought about it.
I didn't like their way of wording their positioning on Wheme as being an absence of a reason not to vote them. But, in retrospect it's tame enough that I don't care. But not much there, you're right. Back to neutral.


Pedit:
Wheme is always scum tho.

-Bell

I'm already in Luke's pocket but your efforts are commendable

I'd say COF and Skybird has scum in it.

is there any particular reason why this is phrased as though the two are connected in some way

I'd say COF and Skybird has scum in it.

This was the contested read for me and spiffs

I didn’t like when they asked for clarification from Pavoski about the votes. I felt like it showed them not trying to pay attention which looks weird from someone trying to solve

But spiffs also missed it so no clue. He liked the same post I didn’t like.

Ninja-
Heh, mentioning the same part

Btw it is actually embarrassing for the players on our wagon familiar with notty (such as Bell, Dunn, LLD) to be misreading him here if they're Town

He is objectively very obviously Town and you should all be ashamed of yourselves

I am obviously Town too but tend to get misread early so it's less offensive to scum read me

~Spiffy

Luke did you notice the same thing as me about DVs post and what it means associativewise?

Ninja-
Giffy your votes on spiffy tell bell to stop being a towel

Are you sure? I found it pretty funny.

I'd say COF and Skybird has scum in it.

is there any particular reason why this is phrased as though the two are connected in some way

Nope, unintended
Out of all the questions you could've asked anyone, why this one?
-Bell

Dunno. I can't control what strikes me as worthy of prodding. I'm currently mildly scumreading COF so anything to do with them is a little more interesting?

Btw it is actually embarrassing for the players on our wagon familiar with notty (such as Bell, Dunn, LLD) to be misreading him here if they're Town

He is objectively very obviously Town and you should all be ashamed of yourselves

I am obviously Town too but tend to get misread early so it's less offensive to scum read me

~Spiffy

I'm now scumreading you solely for this post

Well, Ceph certainly is playing like Bowser is their partner this game.

-Bell

[Icebox]

Eh, It’s not a slam dunk.
Wanna hear what Dunstrall says.

-Bell

[Icebox]

Which kill would clear up the most stuff and set us up for an elo win if we're wrong?
I don't like the idea of leaving Pav alive with that ambiguity.

-Bell

[Icebox]

Okay, Bowser, imagine we were in dawn and you just got hammered.
Walk me through how much shit you'll be giving me if I'm wrong here and the associations I'm seeing aren't real.

-Bell

[Icebox]

@Dunnstrall, where do you see Galron trying to figure out your role?

-Bell

[Icebox]

Okay, yeah I'm waffling. Sue me.

-Bell

[Icebox]

Huh? My association hunting was fine in pokemon.

Oh no, I definitely wrote a post about Dunstrall's grand standing comment before realizing it was pretty much off topic. Also, I don't even think it's grand standing.

Tis true, I don't really see the reasoning as to why Pav wouldn't use his ability and just wifom with it.

Could you not post, posts like 3288 it gives me anxiety and you shouldn't do that

-Bell.

[Icebox]

You know,
I'm still mad about pokemon even though it happened years ago.

-Bell

[Icebox]

Fuck, I lost didn't I.
Ugh. UGH
UGHHHHH

-Bell

[Icebox]

I never got to vent.
Though I don't even know what I would vent about.
I think I'm just annoyed that I thought Sircakez would vote Pooky and then he didn't.
Meaning you actually were right about Sircakez everytime our views diverged on him with you having an accurately negative view, while I was always positive.
And I hate that. How did I get paired with a bigger pessimist than myself.

-Bell

[Icebox]

@Bowser, are you serious about not wanting to live to elo even if you're town?
Because I'm about to vote Pav/Dunnstrall randomly, but like,
If you insist.

-Bell

[Icebox]

If we lim Pav, we take out the only known loverizer. One of the things I've been wondering is do we have a scum with that ability.

One thing I just thought of was I didn't need to wait for my potion to become available. I just needed to get the right amount of gold.

One context please.

-Bell

[Icebox]

Wait, did Sircakez look at associative, I thought all he did was look at the number of posts each player made towards the other, then shrugged and called it a draw.

Also wow. You're a pro AtEr, you almost sound genuine. *shiver*

-Bell

[Icebox]

VOTE: Pavowski

Meh, I don't want this in elo. My blood pressure will go up in elo in the dead thread it it's him and I don't need the stress.

Pedit: Pooky demonstrably didn't push anyone until Koba. All of his votes were contentless. I'd know because I read them all. *twitch*

-Bell

[Icebox]

What potion are you talking about Skybird?

-Bell

[Icebox]

@Dunnstrall, where do you see Galron trying to figure out your role?

-Bell

Spoiler:

Thou hast an opportunity to earn one extra

gold coin

today. Be ye terse and it shall be thine. All in the Troupe who make fewer than 150 posts this game day shall earn it.

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I has't nay needeth f'r thy gold, and i shalt speaketh out one hundr'd times without rest 'gainst the evil yond tries to corrupt our hearts

VOTE: Bowser Jr.

Dunn,

What is your position regarding the gold coins?

Begone beldams, playeth not tricks of the mind

Who are you calling witches here? Bowser?

First one yeah, second one's a stretch.

-Bell

[Icebox]

Still want Pavowski dead.

-Bell

[Icebox]

Bowser, but it's very close. Not between you and Bowser, but between Bowser and Dunn.
You're way down there.

-Bell

[Icebox]

-Bell

[Icebox]

I candidly have been wondering if pav is town, who’s “condition” is us activating the hood, and I trolled by not submitting the PR so we can get a hood together earlier

*thats* why I’m Holding back

Also part of me still wants to die lol

Ngl, I hoped Bowser would take the bait and make elo easy if it was him. While covering for Pa *not going to lose to hiding in plain sight loverser*vowski But I guess that would be too easy.

-Bell

[Icebox]

Instead I guess I'll have to settle for doing that exact same thing without less comfort.
I'mma vote you if you don't vote Pavowski.
*arm twist*

-Bell

[Icebox]

Gunna give you 3 hours.

-Bell

[Icebox]

I thought you'd say as much.
Still switching my vote and if we lose,
well, it's your fault.
and if we don't, I guess I won and you lose. So I don't care.
*cool*

-Bell

[Icebox]

*smug*
Hopefully this ends it.
and if not, well, I'll probably be dead so I won't have to deal with the consequences of my actions.

-Bell

[Icebox]

@FF: if the final scum gets limmed is there still a dawn phase?

-Bell

[Icebox]

@FF, does this mean we didn't win

-Bell

[Icebox]

No, no.
I'd prefer to be left in suspense.

Uh. Sorry.

-Bell

[Icebox]

I'm in elo again. On the bright side, I don't have to convince a pookit that they're not pookited this time.


-Bell

[Icebox]

I'm just gunna continue my analysis I guess. Dunnstral is basically playing like Dunnstral which is the only Dunnstral I know. What does Dunnstral even mean anyway?


-Bell

[Icebox]

Also, sorry Pav. I've responded *really* negatively to AtE lately. Ever since Petapan, I basically give people a hard time for having emotions. It's not great.

-Bell

[Icebox]

You're a towel.

-Bell

[Icebox]

I gave it my best guess.

Go for it!

-Bell

[Icebox]

It's interesting, why did you make a huge fake claim that could fall apart at any moment. Instead of something more boring?

-Bell

[Icebox]

Q. Did you not use your crier ability today Dunnstral?

-Bell

[Icebox]

Could you not submit it before then or did it have to be at dawn?

-Bell

[Icebox]

Seems like it didnt count

VOTE: COF

Let's do this thing!

People who I think are town:

LLD (lol, it's basically a meme at this point)
Icebox
Pavowski
GuiltyLion
Lukewarm

Hmm... that's not as many as I thought it would be

--

People who I'm too scared to label as townreads but I'm not really concerned enough about them to pursue things further right now:

Dunnstral
Juliet Capulet
Galron
WhemeStar

--

The rest:

Bowser Jr.

Firstly, the attempts to strongarm people into townreading them are just not really doing anything for me, despite Bowser Jr's continued use of this as a form of defence. (see 93, 217, 263, 271 ("Also 47 hours until all votes on us must be removed"), 343. If you're relying on vague nothings rather than anything concrete to convince people to townread you, then it makes me think that you have something to hide.
Early posts from Bowser Jr. sort of made me suspicious in a way that I'd find difficult to articulate, but based on my posts I think it would be expected that 245 was what prompted the beginning of more of a scumread. The non-specific appeal to two players to "chat" at a time when Bowser Jr is starting to receive actual suspicion seems like a desperate attempt to be read as town. The "will get me more engaged" excuse falls flat. I would expect town to have topics in the game that interest them that they actually want to talk to people about, the "talk to me about anything" approach is more consistent with wanting to engage with people so that you can be read as town.

265 ESPECIALLY bothered me because of their way of throwing shade at me in what looks like an attempt to get Bell on their side against me whilst also invalidating my suspicion, through accusing me of "buddying" LLD in saying that I agreed with her. First of all,

of course

it's slightly ridiculous to say that I agree with someone who has not done anything other than voting, you're falling for easy bait. (I mostly said that I agreed with LLD because I thought it would be funny) But actually I think that LLD has been fairly clear in her opinion of the Bowser Jr. slot and the posts that LLD has obviously been bothered by are the same that have bothered me.

This was made worse by 270, which both invalidates LLD's opinions (again I think that LLD has actually been a lot clearer in her opinions than Bowser Jr has given her credit for), and also invalidates mine? Spiffy thinking that I would be trying to cozy up to LLD, an influential town player, reveals a lack of familiarity with me as a player (which I think explains why they as scum would interact with me in this way), especially since I imagine that LLD is certainly

not

the sort of player that would give someone a free town-pass for simply agreeing with her, or any attempted buddying, for that matter.
271 is trying very hard to justify the vote on me, when I think in essence town would justifiably be pissed off in response to my ridiculous posts and not be as meticulous in the justification.

Finally, 360 is trying too hard to pretend that they are actually convinced I'm scum. I've gotten myself very worked up over Bowser Jr. (clearly), yet I would not be nearly confident enough in them being scum at this stage to be planning for their scumflip.

(The criticism/suspicion comparison is probably more of theoretical than practical interest, but it

is

interesting to me, because being suspected when you're town often isn't really a failing on the town member's part, whilst being suspected when you're scum is more clearly a failing on the scum person's part. I do wonder whether scum are more likely to interpret suspicion as criticism. Again, this is not really a part of my suspicion on Bowser Jr. Just a thought bubble I had!)

--

Off The Hook

I don't really have anything more to say on this slot. Happy to give them time.

--

Wisdom

I don't actually think you're scum, but if I had to explain to someone why you aren't in my scumpile I wouldn't really have anything to say, so here we are.

--

Cephrir

I liked your vote on me and then your vote on CoF and I don't really know what I'm expecting from you, just... more? I want more!

--

Child of Fairies

Not much has really changed from my previous posts on them. If they made more posts since then I didn't really notice and I'm still not sure what that means for my read. They haven't really responded in a way that I would expect scum to respond, but also... not in what I would want from town? I don't know what to do!

--

Tamora's Angel

At the moment sitting slightly more scummy than OTH/Ceph/Wisdom, but not as concerning as CoF/Skybird/Bowser Jr.
Similar vibe of not much there but random reads list in 369 was.. okay I guess? Do I have reason to suspect Tamora's Angel? Not really?

--

Skybird

Sorry Skybird, you have gone into the scum section of my scumpile again.
Her posts feel run-of-the-mill and routine to me with not much evidence of underlying thought process behind them and more looking like posts for the sake of making them. 303 in particular does not seem super well thought out since I feel like LLD has made her meaning behind the posts very clear. 302 and 314 feel more like Skybird positioning herself than actually furthering her understanding of people's alignments etc.

--

Was this post actually just an excuse to have my Bowser Jr. rant?

Maybe

Btw it is actually embarrassing for the players on our wagon familiar with notty (such as Bell, Dunn, LLD) to be misreading him here if they're Town

He is objectively very obviously Town and you should all be ashamed of yourselves

I am obviously Town too but tend to get misread early so it's less offensive to scum read me

~Spiffy

I'm now scumreading you solely for this post

That was actually my towniest post of the game so bad take

~Spiffy

Spiffy thinking that I would be trying to cozy up to LLD, an influential town player, reveals a lack of familiarity with me as a player

(which I think explains why they as scum would interact with me in this way)

, especially since I imagine that LLD is certainly not the sort of player that would give someone a free town-pass for simply agreeing with her, or any attempted buddying, for that matter.

Looking at the bolded, can you explain why you've defaulted to "this is why scum!Spiffy would interact with me this way" instead of "since I haven't played with Spiffy before this is NAI overall"? If I haven't played with you before, it would stand to reason that as either alignment I am unfamiliar with you and could react this way as Town or Scum?

Like, I get you're scum reading us otherwise, but this post continues the trend of picking something out and painting it in the scummiest light possible to add to your collection of "points" against us. HOWEVER, the question is whether you're doing this disingenuously or if you actually think you've found something and your confbias is causing you to see everything we do in a bad light. That remains to be seen. I don't hate your reads post overall and will probably let notty do his thing for awhile because he graciously allowed me to go after you for a bit.

And since we're talking about familiarity, I'd love to dismantle a few of your arguments that are AT BEST NAI for me:
1. I call myself Town regardless of my alignment. I believe I am actually MORE inclined to do so as Town than scum because as Town when there is widespread suspicion on me I blame everyone else for being bad/wrong or scum and double down on claiming Town. As scum I know they're right about me so I'm like "oh shit I better pick up the pace and do something to get myself townread" and pivot away from this behavior if it starts putting me on radars. Is constantly calling myself Town irritating and unhelpful? Yes and MAYBE. Look at all the great content I got out of you because of it!!!!!!!!
2. Your point about asking townreads to engage me is like an absolute tenant of my townplay and a really bad point. Everyone that's played with me should be able vouch for that. Like I'm sure I've done it as scum too so whatever but I can't believe that is actually something you've taken issue with.

~Spiffy

Thanks for the response Spiffy. I think your style can come across as somewhat condescending, which causes an instinctive reaction in me and may be affecting my judgement. However, I don't think that you actually believe I am scum.

Look at all the great content I got out of you because of it!!!!!!!!

This is not really something I expect town to say about their scumread, for example.

As for your comments on my post, I don't have too much to say. I think a lot of it is "you're wrong!", but in more words? Your point no. 1 shows awareness that it is something you do as town, which means you can emulate it as scum. I find the way that you have done it to be awkward and forced and often vague, making me doubt its authenticity, which I indicated in my post.

Regarding the bolded, that is not reason for you being scum as much as it is me checking myself. In this sort of situation, I always have to think to myself, "would scum actually approach me in this sort of way". A lot of the time my reads are relational in the sense that I judge people based on how they interact with me vs. how I expect them to as town/scum. I would probably expect scum familiar with me to tread more carefully than you have. For example, if Ceph came out swinging with a scumread on me I would be surprised but I would more likely think he was genuine in that belief yet mistaken due to it being very strange from him as scum. However, that wasn't a thought I needed to have in your case. For all you know I could be an easy elim! Maybe that's even true!

Oh bowser isn’t gamma

WHOEVER BOWSER HEAD THIS IS WANNA HEAR A JOKE?

No the joke is your play this game

Boom. Roasted.

VOTE: skybird

What the hell is happening here.

Wheme wagon is faltering but I don't see why, the voting / posting pattern is weird af.

Granted I don't know Wheme. And maybe given his posts there's something mechanical happening here. But he's null at absolute best

Their lips art sewn so has't they decre'd. And yet, what is this? i sense not the tug of fate upon their words

Whemestar might be town. That was a fun run of posts. Roast.

Not convinced DV is town. Would like to know. I get weird vibes although the reads list was okay.

I Don't know wisdom well but I think if he were scum he'd be digging into someone.

Not convinced DV is town. Would like to know. I get weird vibes although the reads list was okay.

That should say would like to know DV's experience with spiffy.

This post cant decide if it thinks DV is scum or not either and your best defense is self meta

Idk I'm not really a fan

Mm not sure I get much from the DV kill. Wait did we lim DV during the day or did he get killed at night? I forgot.
382: is a good post if they're scum. It reads as genuine. That sort of complex back and forth sort of reasoning I don't see much from scum.
I'm taking Bowser's submitted evidence and adding it in. It seems valid are far as habits go.

-Bell


-Bell

[Icebox]

Hey guys.

This is me not hammering.

I know. You're all shocked.

-Bell

[Icebox]

I would like you to go over the COF stuff yeah.

I appreciate the cooperation.

-Bell

[Icebox]

Actually, I think I'll try to do

Eh. No, if it ain't broke don't fix it Bell.
Just keep going. I know you want to just double iso and be lazy, but no.
Stahp.

-Bell

[Icebox]

THE COURT IS IN SESSION

-Bell

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Okay, yeah sure. Out with what COF lied about and how it explains your push there.

Notty. What does town Spiffy in elo look like?

-Bell

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Huh, that is weird.

-Bell

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What kind of game has a post-restricter that steals votes + 1 shot-loverizer or something anyway.

-Bell

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Probably not.
I won't lie, I'm mostly just panicking because LLD might explode on me if I fuck this up.
Though yeah, give me the short version of that?

-Bell

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Okay, I'm lying.
I will explode of me if I fuck this up.

-Bell

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VOTE: BowserJr

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At least limlo didn't drag on

Yeah. Thanks for that. You saved Notty some trauma.

Uh. I didn't earn this, but once I was mech cleared accidentally, I didn't make any serious mistakes to cause people to doubt it. A toast to mediocrity everywhere.

Scum PT can be opened without edits from my end.

Also, why. Don't be sad or upset. That was the definition of a blindside mech clear. It had nothing to do with skill or being pocketed/fooled.

-Bell

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Also, Wisdom is honorary scum. Just iso him this game, he was loving every second of his role.
I hated it when I was fake catching up. I kept having to delete posts hating on Wisdom because it would show I was lacking focus lol.
-Bell

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I understand Pav,
I too am a seeker of truth and self-flagellate when I am too blind to see it, no matter how difficult/unreasonable.
*back pat*

-Bell

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That would be the reasonable assumption to make, but it was actually a gold ability.

Note that when I claimed I didn't mention one.

-Bell

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I believe COF or someone mentioned I hadn't full claimed.
I just ignored it.

-Bell

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Congrats Bell! I was rooting for you by the end

I think the only thing I did well this game was pocket you. Though, I'm not sure if I actually did. But it felt like I did. <3.

-Bell

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Congrats Bell! I was rooting for you by the end

But y tho.

-Bell

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Nah, Pav. you sound fine and your tone came across well. You don't sound negative at all.

-Bell

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That would be the reasonable assumption to make, but it was actually a gold ability.

Note that when I claimed I didn't mention one.

-Bell

Vanilizations blank your role PM. Gold Abilities should ALSO have been removed.

This is... this is not...

I don't disagree. It was super convoluted and just near impossible to brain storm to the right answer. Though funnily enough Notty and Pav did find the correct answer, but they discarded it as unlikely and I would've been right there with them.

-Bell

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I didn't really think Skybird was cleared and didn't agree with people about it oog.
Titus wasn't an active threat during the day phase.

We pretty much killed in order of how openly solvey the town players were or who was earning the most town reads from it.

-Bell

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Although - Bell, why did you decide that I was such a priority to kill? Like, you tried to kill me off. Twice. All while there were TWO mech cleared townies out there, skybird and LLD lol

And you had me pocketed. HARD lol

I did end up killing LLD because I was worried she would flip on me for how I was playing with her in the neighborhood. I didn't think she was cleared just for having a neighborizor/watcher role. It was townie but Bowser was pushing pretty hard for them in the neighborhood and so I could delay it there.

-Bell

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I have read the dead thread. It was interesting in its way.

Don't be sorry Ceph. I appreciated what time you could commit and I appreciated when you couldn't give more and replaced out. I'm not being sarcastic when I say that I'm really glad you took care of yourself first. I hope it relieved the strain a bit from your life stuff. <3.

I'm not mad at GIF either, it sounds like he was super overwhelmed with his job stuff. I hope it worked out for him. :<

There were definitely times when I could have applied myself more and chose not to.

-Bell

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My tech support for enchant was a low point.

-Bell