Mini Normal 2248 | A Member Of The Arsonists | Town wins

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sad, dwlee’s not in this game so I can’t pocket him

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???

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VOTE: darby
This is a serious and hard scumread.

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I don't actually scum read Darby I just wanted to get discussion rolling
now I'm town reading egis

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VOTE: darby
This is a serious and hard scumread.

goodposting
VOTE: DArby

...did you not read 29?

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yes

VOTE: StD

You know what DARBY is still scum

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Spoiler: quotes
Pan Smierc wrote:In post 18, redtea wrote:co-mod ego, have fun~scumclaimPan Smierc wrote:ok nice i fixed my sigPan Smierc wrote:Why=fry
I dislike this stream-of-consciousness posting. It feels like that 'jokey' breaking the ice thing that scum try to do in RVS.

Only the first of those quotes feels forced imo. It could just be a personality thing.

Ugh personality. I hate these kind of excuses.
I like guilty until proven innocent.

I mean tonal dissonance is scummy
Having the same weird tone is in practice nai

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t3 town

why? sequencing felt to me like:

1. T3 makes random vote claiming "hard scumread"
2. T3 makes a point of acknowledging the "hard scumread" bit was not serious (slightly odd thing to clarify as it was obvious)
3. T3 calls out somebody for also transparently random voting on the same wagon, also slightly odd.

so my starting point is t3 mildly scummy.

In other related news VOTE: dArby

I wasn't sure if the vote was random or not.

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something town me is really bad at is Getting Townread
in all my recent scum games except one i've endgamed

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if i'm getting widely scumread then i'm probably town

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Why=fry

Why?

My way of words was a bit controversial in my last game.

Why?

Out of policy this can go.

VOTE: Why

Do you not think that there's enough content to be able to form even a couple of rudimentary reads? Thus kinda feels like you're just trying to take an easy way out.

Agreed.
Darby is newbscum who can’t find anything to latch on to?

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I’m not sure if scum Egix would go directly to pans defense

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cool cookie is a slot that seems scummy early but towntells later give em a chance everyone

wait why though

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t3 VERY LIGHT TWN READ, he could be good scum, but on the face of it, he looks town, he is at least trying.
So town bloc day q:
Moz, t3, Bendover, Cool Cookie.
Derby...fck knows.

my post where i hard scumread darby is pretty towny imo but also fakeable by scum

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cool cookie is a slot that seems scummy early but towntells later give em a chance everyone

wait why though

Ill link a large normal in a bit

oh alts

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...i played in a large normal before. anyway you are not giving me good vibes T3, making bold claim of your own towniness already in post 105.

nah i'm saying pan is an alt
i forgot you were in 236 though

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https://www.google.com/search?q=cool+co ... 8A2tql-sHM

make it this or something?

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honestly i'm tempted to townread ben just because he's active

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cool cookie is a slot that seems scummy early but towntells later give em a chance everyone

wait why though

Ill link a large normal in a bit

oh alts

Surprised you haven't recognized me since it is pretty obvious imo but dont out me rn

for some reason i had it in my head that you were a newbie in their first game outside of the newbie queue lol
yes i like tacos

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i'd policy why in a heartbeat

Why?

\;-;/

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something town me is really bad at is Getting Townread
in all my recent scum games except one i've endgamed

This is the quote
I don't see why scum!t3 makes this point out of nowhere.

P-edit: It means reaction test, which is simply just baiting reactions by faking a action.

agreed
So I don’t get mislimmed I’m trying to go out of my way to do towny stuff, but it’s also not really natural

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something town me is really bad at is Getting Townread
in all my recent scum games except one i've endgamed

This is the quote
I don't see why scum!t3 makes this point out of nowhere.

on reflection, I disagree. if T3 if town, there's a disconnect between this post where T3 claims to be bad at getting townread as town, and the post I noted earlier where T3 was overly confident in playing up own 'towntells' (which incidentally is hard for me to attribute to T3-town on its own, but context shows a contrast also).

also as a rule of thumb, if someone is especially good as scum, I generally set a higher bar for townreading them. be wary of confbias but also no soft touching

you're tunneled

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TMI?

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can we not policy them and waste a mislim

TMI?

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can we not policy them and waste a mislim

TMI?

Wait wtf

bc pan said "mislim" as opposed to "lim"
scum knowing why will flip town

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I kinda did that as a manipulative tactic to force votes onto me instead who can be read as a fake scumslip so people stop lazily policy voting a slot that clearly will eventualy be forced one way or another to post game advancing content hopefully

I can't read

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I don't think his route here as scum is 'take really easy stance on Why', I think that has really limited potential as a scum position here atm. I also think if I'm wrong on this there's a pretty good chance we'll get him later.

mozamis reads as really genuine in his solving and I'm gelling with a lot of his takes

Meh it's true that StD doesn't seem to have a agenda, he's just super hard on policying Why which doesn't seem like a scum course of action.

Don't really agree with the mozamis read though.

in practice that kind of thing is usually nai

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std town pan lean town the end

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I'm lost in this argument

Not_Mafia replaces IOnlyAskWhy.

Out of the frying pan and into the fire.

You main xiangling or something?

not_mafia does nothing except shitpost and naked vote

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kill darby

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kill darby

I hate myself but

Why?

he’s not trying
And ik what he’s saying about the inactivity being nai, I’m not talking about that

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it just doesn't feel like he's got that solving energy

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kill darby

I hate myself but

Why?

he’s not trying
And ik what he’s saying about the inactivity being nai, I’m not talking about that

it just doesn't feel like he's got that solving energy

Does his recent posting make any difference?

No

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Klick is probably town for his attitude tbh

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I've got no idea what Darby's doing and I find it really scummy and I don't really know why nil

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Well I would rather set up a gamestate that helps us overall solve the game than lazily waste the important info gathering day

Okay wait I’ve seen you do this before you’re town

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maybe I'm tunneled on Darby

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I've got no idea what Darby's doing and I find it really scummy and I don't really know why nil

What do you not understand?

I get what you’re saying about your activity being nai

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VOTE: pan I changed my mind.

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I don’t feel the burning desire to hyper post like I do when I’m scum.
Probably for the best.

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Pan goes from town reading me to scumreading me as soon as I vote them.

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STD isn't particularly playing to his town meta

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t3 town

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STD isn't particularly playing to his town meta

You keep saying shit like this when you are scum

I just roll scum way too often.

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T3 why do you keep on talking about what you do as scum
Like I'm really getting paranoid about this

It’s nai

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why the heck are people voting cookie

nah i think pan's just scum here and i'm not going to convince anyone of that but there's not a lot of solving and a lot of getting angry at people and trying to discredit them for voting them using "facts" and "logic" that's really kinda bull

if i'm wrong i'm wrong and i won't agonize over it

agree

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Std koba stop arguing

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VOTE: std

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I HAVE NO IDEA

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is anyone going to post any thoughts re: pan vs. std

It’s killing the gamestate

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i findit hrd to post content when people are trying to convince other people and arguing

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i findit hrd to post content when people are trying to convince other people and arguing

In what context is it easy for you to post content?

when people are posting reads and stuff

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VOTE: darby

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VOTE: darby

You keep naked voting me. Why?

UNVOTE: darby
I have barely any solid reads.

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Is Koba RC?

StD was playing like Koba was saying, but Koba is also super slimy.

Probably one Scum in those two.

definitely not

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pan is town
and I'll sheep pan's darby read
and I'll sheep pan's gamma read
VOTE: gamma

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Like I straight up don’t play to Pan’s rulebook

hmmm

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not being pro active isn't a scumtell

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not being pro active isn't a scumtell

No, it's not. But it is Scummy.

>_>

it's like you have a big black box of tells in your head that you attempt to use but then get the opposite read

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lq being this wrong, this fast, is probably towny

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not being pro active isn't a scumtell

No, it's not. But it is Scummy.

>_>

it's like you have a big black box of tells in your head that you attempt to use but then get the opposite read

No, it's like, if people don't want to play, then they are either lazy or Scum. Town wants to solve the game. Scum doesn't want the game solved. It's that easy.

by your definition the vast majority ofplayers are lazy

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VOTE: meg
if I have to

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L

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VOTE: gamma
Let’s do this

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VOTE: gamma

honestly i let the meg wagon go through out of spite bc their reads were so bonkers that itd be better info and more useful to have them dead via not my influence.

Ben also legacy read gamma scum in the PT so

wait.
VOTE: pan

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the neighborizer reaction resolves at the end of the night and it's currently day 2
there's physically no way ben would have legacy scum read gamma

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oh I'm dumb
VOTE: gamma
okay yeah
for some reason I thought that you were saying ben told you in the pt

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I was the target of the neighborizor btw

I don’t trust this.

Why not?

Reasons.

Darby is town

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I was the first vote
But yeah.

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I was the first vote
But yeah.

Which is why i eliminated you as groupscum and only could be traitor based on prior play

Isn’t it even worse for me to bus if I’m traitor though?

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kekw