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Post Post #2555 (isolation #200) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:38 pm

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In post 2554, Wisdom wrote:I asked her this because she voted OTH instead of rejoining the Juliet wagon when Wheme fizzed out
And then she only revoted Juliet after she had 9 votes, she had claimed, and multiple people had declared the claim changes nothing.

Namely, after she was doomed.

So how did she help catch Juliet exactly?
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Post Post #2557 (isolation #201) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:41 pm

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no worries, Pav is still today's lim.
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Post Post #2559 (isolation #202) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:47 pm

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Parity cop was amongst the only believable claims for having visited two targets. And I actually bought it, so it was effective.
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Post Post #2560 (isolation #203) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:48 pm

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Anyway DV is right. Your thoughts on Pav? Would you like to vote him?
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Post Post #2561 (isolation #204) » Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:50 pm

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You also didnt answer about OTH.
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Post Post #2563 (isolation #205) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 1:03 am

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Why is it a fakeclaim? I do not get the OTH scumreads at all
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Post Post #2567 (isolation #206) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:48 am

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In post 2557, Wisdom wrote:no worries, Pav is still today's lim.
you know, I said this, but actually

UNVOTE:

Why does scum Pav loverize a buddy and a townie instead of two townies?

At first I thought the loverizing happened after the guilty and then Pav would obviously have motivation to do that, but at night when Galron was still safe?

Isn't it better for a scum loverizer to tie two townies?
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Post Post #2568 (isolation #207) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:57 am

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VOTE: dv
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Post Post #2573 (isolation #208) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:50 am

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Have you read what my read on LLD is?
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Post Post #2574 (isolation #209) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 5:51 am

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And the vanillize came from Icebox visiting GL

Youre not reading once again
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Post Post #2576 (isolation #210) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:10 am

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Because i can have more than one scumreads and ive been scumreading dv and ceph for a while
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Post Post #2579 (isolation #211) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:33 am

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Meaning?
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Post Post #2581 (isolation #212) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 6:35 am

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How would he know that? It was before the guilty
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Post Post #2583 (isolation #213) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:01 am

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Nah he had no eyes on him whatsoever. I just reread it.
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Post Post #2585 (isolation #214) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:05 am

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No let me quote my position again
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Post Post #2586 (isolation #215) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:08 am

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In post 2383, Wisdom wrote:b) The N1 vanillaization caused by visiting GuiltyLion also included an ascetization or a "you're immune to loverization" effect. This makes more sense because seeing as GuiltyLion is town, I find no reason to just punish Icebox for visiting him without adding in something beneficial. And those two being connected also makes sense seeing as we know the mod forgot about both of them until the pause.
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Post Post #2587 (isolation #216) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:10 am

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To recap, the mod did not inform Icebox he had been vanillaized until the pause and did not break the loverization until the pause

So the two are 99.9% related
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Post Post #2588 (isolation #217) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:11 am

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In post 1764, fferyllt wrote:
I have found an oversight that I need to resolve. I'm closing the thread while I work this out. I will add a day to the countdown clock when this is taken care of

Apologies for the closure! The thread won't reopen for at least 8 hours.
The "pause" is this, in case it was forgotten
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Post Post #2589 (isolation #218) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 7:19 am

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@spiffeh

I am reading mountain dew dead pt and came across this
I'm kinda leaning scum on Dunn now because of how dedicated he is to addressing everyone that has an issue with him?

Like when I was scum reading him super hard in WH13 he did not give a fuck
Dont you think this holds true here too? Dunn was all "why are you voting me" to everyone voting him yesterday
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Post Post #2592 (isolation #219) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:00 am

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They both happened on n1
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Post Post #2594 (isolation #220) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:07 am

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The timeline again

- Icebox visits GL N1 and is vanillaized (The mod does not resolve it)
- Pav loverizes Icebox and Galron (The mod resolves it, they learn they're lovers at dawn)
- The mod pauses the game because she realizes the error, informs Icebox he was vanillaized N1, and cancels the loverization
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Post Post #2595 (isolation #221) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:08 am

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Scum didnt do either if im right
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Post Post #2598 (isolation #222) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:10 am

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Because its icebox's role

Its said in his role pm that he may lose his abilities if he visits a certain person

Thats why Im speculating that in addition to the vanillaizing he got protection from loverization (if not from everything that night)
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Post Post #2599 (isolation #223) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:14 am

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In post 1729, Icebox wrote:I can visit 3 players. They said something may or may not happen when I do visit them.
They said there may be other aspects of my role I'm not aware of.
If I visit certain players, I could lose my abilities it says, but doesn't specify what that means.

I'm literally a question mark.

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Post Post #2600 (isolation #224) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:16 am

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Pagetop
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Post Post #2608 (isolation #225) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:02 am

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In post 2602, Lukewarm wrote:
In post 2598, Wisdom wrote:Because its icebox's role

Its said in his role pm that he may lose his abilities if he visits a certain person

Thats why Im speculating that in addition to the vanillaizing he got protection from loverization (if not from everything that night)
I feel like it would not need it be protection, just the opposite order of operations.

First, Pav loverized galron and icebox.

Then Icebox self vanillized when they visited gl, and instantly removed the lover ability pav just gave them.
That works too

Clearly starting with different assumptions that change does not help me think clearly
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Post Post #2611 (isolation #226) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 11:32 am

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Gamma am I just wrong on you
I feel I owe lld a sheep or two
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Post Post #2616 (isolation #227) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 12:06 pm

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In post 2613, Off The Hook wrote:I also can't recall rolling scum against you tho
Youre actually right, the only one I could find was a Jungle republic where you were ww and you replaced out early, before which I correctly scumread you
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Post Post #2627 (isolation #228) » Fri Nov 19, 2021 8:33 pm

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Any input from GL? What does he think about pav and dv now
Personally i feel like unvoting again
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Post Post #2631 (isolation #229) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:11 am

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Did you guys read what I said

Why does scum Pav loverize a buddy and a townie instead of two townies
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Post Post #2654 (isolation #230) » Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:49 pm

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Bell the back and forth you are seeing is because I began making conclusions based on assumptions that later changed (For example I was positive Pav loverized you after the guilty), and thus didnt think clearly about whether Pav's role actually makes him scum

Same went for my timeline of what happened to you
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Post Post #2689 (isolation #231) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:45 pm

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Agreed, conftown lld is best
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Post Post #2690 (isolation #232) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 7:47 pm

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In post 2681, Icebox wrote:Why are we letting OTH live.
Personally i feel theyve been town all game and the claim did nothing to change that
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Post Post #2694 (isolation #233) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:22 pm

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What?
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Post Post #2696 (isolation #234) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:03 pm

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What confirmed townie did LLD push?
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Post Post #2698 (isolation #235) » Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:50 pm

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Sorry I don't understand what you're saying but LLD could easily be scum here
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Post Post #2703 (isolation #236) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 1:46 am

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16 hours left, still 2 votes needed to get a lim

Let's not leave it for the last second
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Post Post #2710 (isolation #237) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 4:10 am

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Unofficial vc

DeasVail (5): Pavowski, Off The Hook, Wisdom, Lukewarm, Skybird
Off The Hook (5): Dunnstral, Child of Fairies, Lady Lambdadelta, Enchant, Icebox
Pavowski (2): DeasVail, Titus
Lady Lambdadelta (1): Bowser Jr.
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Post Post #2716 (isolation #238) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:04 am

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In post 2712, Titus wrote:If the lim flipped scum, shoot Pav.
pretty sure dv and pav arent scum together for reasons Ive said but you do you
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Post Post #2717 (isolation #239) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:05 am

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also titus. few hours left. vote dv.
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Post Post #2720 (isolation #240) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:06 am

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12 and a half or something
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Post Post #2723 (isolation #241) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:08 am

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Pav swap isnt happening because its unlikely he loverized his buddy instead of two townies

just vote dv and put him at e-1
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Post Post #2724 (isolation #242) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:08 am

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and then we wait for bowser who also said hed vote dv
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Post Post #2727 (isolation #243) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:26 am

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Why would he think galron was going down during n1

Nobody was suspecting him
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Post Post #2731 (isolation #244) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 5:47 am

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@mod You missed two votes
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Post Post #2734 (isolation #245) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 6:30 am

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Still, why not loverize icebox to another good townie and kill two birds with one stone

Also, why claim this action?
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Post Post #2738 (isolation #246) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 7:16 am

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He isn't
If dv is town pav rejoins my pov
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Post Post #2742 (isolation #247) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:40 am

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Thats what I thought too tbh

I feel like she overjustifies this vote while it should be simple
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Post Post #2744 (isolation #248) » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:21 am

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Is it twilight or does dv need more votes
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Post Post #2763 (isolation #249) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 6:00 am

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VOTE: cof
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Post Post #2774 (isolation #250) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:40 am

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LLD is very likely scum yeah
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Post Post #2777 (isolation #251) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 7:42 am

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Im not
Ill also probably claim today given i revealed my role to lld
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Post Post #2780 (isolation #252) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:03 am

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How does it confirm you
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Post Post #2782 (isolation #253) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:04 am

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Yea but how does it confirm you as town
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Post Post #2784 (isolation #254) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:06 am

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Oh yeah forgot about oth's ability
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Post Post #2786 (isolation #255) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:07 am

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I thought you were arguing your role made you conftown somehow and i couldnt wait to call bs
Why didnt you buy my potion
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Post Post #2789 (isolation #256) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:09 am

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what
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Post Post #2790 (isolation #257) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:10 am

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Have people been blocking me
Nobody has bought any potion
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Post Post #2794 (isolation #258) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:15 am

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Yep so i was blocked
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Post Post #2795 (isolation #259) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:17 am

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And im assuming its skybird who blocked me since she seems to think im scum
Probably thinks she blocked the kill
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Post Post #2808 (isolation #260) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:47 am

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Titus cof is alive
And you still prefer pav?
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Post Post #2814 (isolation #261) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:50 am

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If we don't get a claim of someone healing him will you vote him?
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Post Post #2825 (isolation #262) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:57 am

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I can sell potions for 2 gold. I have
1) one that allows one post after death
2) one that lets you know if something targeted you (not who or what it was)
3) one that lets you voyeur someone
4) one that makes you earn double gold next day
5) one that lets you put a post restriction on someone


I offer two of the potions to one person and they can choose to buy one

N1 i offered 4 and 5 to Wheme, N2 I offered 1 and 3 to GL, N3 I offered 1 and 2 to LLD (was blocked)

Nobody bought anything. I was confident GL would buy 1 but given the hoods and whatnot looks like he didn't need it
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Post Post #2831 (isolation #263) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:09 am

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Actually mine is just a post limit, not like bowser's
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Post Post #2835 (isolation #264) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:12 am

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In post 2832, Titus wrote:
In post 2831, Wisdom wrote:Actually mine is just a post limit, not like bowser's
:? :igmeou: :shifty:
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Post Post #2837 (isolation #265) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:14 am

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In post 2834, Off The Hook wrote:
In post 2825, Wisdom wrote:N1 i offered 4 and 5 to Wheme, N2 I offered 1 and 3 to GL, N3 I offered 1 and 2 to LLD (was blocked)
whys this convenient
What do you mean
LLD can confirm I would offer them to her, we had a hood yesterday where I claimed and she asked me to offer her #1
And GL can confirm too if hes still around via titus
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Post Post #2841 (isolation #266) » Sat Nov 27, 2021 9:17 am

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In post 2838, Titus wrote:
In post 2835, Wisdom wrote:
In post 2832, Titus wrote:
In post 2831, Wisdom wrote:Actually mine is just a post limit, not like bowser's
:? :igmeou: :shifty:
?
I have a cap of 75 posts because I succeeded in hooding GL. Your claim of giving these limitations is odd.
Separate things
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Post Post #2878 (isolation #267) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:30 am

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how about no
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Post Post #2880 (isolation #268) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:44 am

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I dont townread cof
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Post Post #2882 (isolation #269) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 9:52 am

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no way that whole thing is town
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Post Post #2927 (isolation #270) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 7:32 pm

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Cof + enchant finishes this
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Post Post #2929 (isolation #271) » Sun Nov 28, 2021 8:05 pm

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Did you read
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Post Post #2954 (isolation #272) » Mon Nov 29, 2021 8:33 pm

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In post 2927, Wisdom wrote:Cof + enchant finishes this
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Post Post #2961 (isolation #273) » Tue Nov 30, 2021 7:55 am

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VOTE: enchant
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Post Post #2981 (isolation #274) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 1:57 am

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yep I prefer Enchant
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Post Post #2988 (isolation #275) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:44 am

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why would pav die over the claimed fn
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Post Post #2990 (isolation #276) » Wed Dec 01, 2021 3:45 am

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still pav is random
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Post Post #3008 (isolation #277) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 2:08 am

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It's not just that, poe points towards you, Ceph was scummy, and youre refusing to play
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Post Post #3022 (isolation #278) » Thu Dec 02, 2021 7:49 pm

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But isnt lld conftown from your role?
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Post Post #3031 (isolation #279) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 5:03 am

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idk Bell is not as active as Id like
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Post Post #3057 (isolation #280) » Fri Dec 03, 2021 11:28 pm

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Byee
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Post Post #3083 (isolation #281) » Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:19 pm

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VOTE: cof
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Post Post #3084 (isolation #282) » Tue Dec 07, 2021 7:21 pm

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Does anyone want to buy a potion if this doesnt end the game
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Post Post #3089 (isolation #283) » Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:35 pm

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In post 3087, Pavowski wrote:Do you have the ability to sell a potion?
In post 2825, Wisdom wrote:I can sell potions for 2 gold. I have
1) one that allows one post after death
2) one that lets you know if something targeted you (not who or what it was)
3) one that lets you voyeur someone
4) one that makes you earn double gold next day
5) one that lets you put a post restriction on someone


I offer two of the potions to one person and they can choose to buy one
#1 and #2 are not available tonight
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Post Post #3090 (isolation #284) » Tue Dec 07, 2021 11:37 pm

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and voyeur = you target someone and you learn what actions targeted them
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Post Post #3527 (isolation #285) » Fri Dec 24, 2021 3:57 am

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In post 3457, Icebox wrote:Also, Wisdom is honorary scum. Just iso him this game, he was loving every second of his role.
I hated it when I was fake catching up. I kept having to delete posts hating on Wisdom because it would show I was lacking focus lol.
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um i totally played like id play as town

especially when nobody was buying anything so I figured I wouldnt be winning that way
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Post Post #3528 (isolation #286) » Fri Dec 24, 2021 4:01 am

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So good to be free of worrying of whether town will win an easy game this time though

Good job Bell

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