Masochist Mafia II [Game Over]

[DkKoba]

ego also im still taking my break from mafia so no content from me

also my role is sick asf

[DkKoba]

nah
Pick something more enticing

ok i lied i read like the last 6 pages and am.gonna dump my vote here
VOTE: ramicus

[DkKoba]

idk how that got quoted but it proves i actually read LOL

[DkKoba]

Vote Count 3.01

Overki111 (1): mcmenno
TheGoldenParadox (3): DrippingGoofball, Gamma Emerald, Ramcius
Gamma Emerald (1): Jack the Wolfie

Not Voting (4): TheGoldenParadox, Postie, Menalque, Overki111

Time Until Deadline (expired on 2022-01-02 15:00:00)

Mod Note: I am replacing a bunch of people at this point Overki111, TheGoldenParadox, and Menalque

also pls fix votecount names i see like several ppl who are posting who arent in this votecount

[DkKoba]

gamma confirmed scum aware of scumflips

[DkKoba]

im getting pranked into tryharding

[DkKoba]

I think ramicus is scummy for like other reasons but whatever gets ppl to the same conclusion lol

i think all of what ur saying is largely nai mt

[DkKoba]

lol ninjad

[DkKoba]

I think ramicus is scummy for like other reasons but whatever gets ppl to the same conclusion lol

i think all of what ur saying is largely nai mt

WHAT DO YOU MEAN I CANT USE ACTIVITY TELLS IN A GAME THAT HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR THREE YEARS

loud tracker

excellent crumb of your modifier here

[DkKoba]

can someone summarize who flipped what alignment
Im not combing FBs iso
first person to do it gets a free townread

[DkKoba]

How does the same modifier mean they is 1 scum between them?
Granted i think theres 1 aspect that is very fishy - which is the lack of results.

hold up its fucking day 3 and we lost 8 people and only 1 scum down

vigs are throwing LOL

ok honestly thought MT was scummy for the mech thing because how many night phases can u go not proving your role but yeah

[DkKoba]

ramicus why is mt slot scum

[DkKoba]

ramicus why is mt slot scum

[DkKoba]

mechs are a weak reason - give me more.

[DkKoba]

wait i can't read i see more.

[DkKoba]

ok im convinced based on a provable role claimed and nothing happening

VOTE: MT

but also lets discuss who last 2 scum are here before EoD
and by us I mean you guys

[DkKoba]

if you're town it's much more useful for you to case someone outside of yourself because you cannot explain your predecessor's thought processes(unless you want to try - I replaced into a limlo recently where I explained what I gleamed to be the thought process of the slot before me to help present why my slot was viably town)

[DkKoba]

the first point you try to rebut about claiming right away has a contradiction in your reply - you claim you would withhold as scum, but then say scum you cares about appearances. What I see is that claiming when asked is an appeasing act when scum to appear better - so at best I'd say that NAI.

claiming an investigative and neither dying nor confirming it and also doing nothing to advance gamestate is pretty damning yeah.

since you read this game before replacing in, mind sharing the thoughts you have right now that you remember on slots that are alive?


and I agree with ramicus about how NM typically gets bussed by teammates. teammates are likely to TMI NM when he's scum and instinctively bus him because they think he is dead weight. it is incredibly rare that NM would be defended especially when they have 3 other members to go off of. It's a nice free way to get towncred and dispose of what is perceived to be a less than useful partner(although I perceive NM as an above average player on here and his gimmicks just mask what his true skill is, look at any game where he gets motivated to tryhard and you will see. In fact he is mechanically very knowledgeable)

[DkKoba]

didn't you claim loud tracker?

[DkKoba]

loud tracker

yeah this is called an investigative role ?

[DkKoba]

your predecessor TGP's ISO is 12 posts, I believe it's perfectly viable you knew they already claimed.

Honestly like your arguments for self town meta are weak so please instead find a case on someone else that isn't just OMGUS.


the more im reading into stuff the more I'm like convinced your slot is scum and at best you're going to argue the points against you are NAI except for the missed night action after claiming.

also i see in the iso that nancy FOSed your slot and i trust nancy's reads since she was nightkilled before this dayphase - the night after Nancy called TGP scum.

[DkKoba]

NKA
provable claim unproven
lack of solving
and now reading salad's iso, a weak vote against a flipped scum late into the wagon


these are all things present that are against your slot right now

The only thing you can do to really convince people here that you are town is that you find scum elsewhere and flip it.




Also that being said - Pooky here is probably town here based on the way they instant pushed you.

[DkKoba]

Your previous slotkin cannot sit here and explain their thought process on this game now - so that is unfortunately a negative for you if you're town here.

But I'm thorough and i recognize we're at limlo-1 very likely.


granted i said i wouldnt tryhard because i was supposed to be on a mafia break and thought this game would be a good opportuity to just chill in but i didnt realize its already limlo-1 lol so i will be looking to see if you are feasibly partnered with anyone else as that will be likely a better metric to judge if you are really scum here based on the lack of available data for you.

but the inclusion of a data set of how you are viewing the game will *also* be useful.

[DkKoba]

we have several weeks till deadline. If you want to survive you can find the time to find at least a few reads


You did say you followed thsi game at one point but had no reads or impressions shared other than chess - which I find odd unless you are exaggerating how much you did follow.

[DkKoba]

at the very least if you're sure that ramicus is scum, you can scan their iso and then find other evidence of them being scum then.

scum can't fake genuine solviness or higher thought processes very well and i dont remember aever seeing ramicus in a recent game at all so i would assume that their skills aren't exactly polished for recent times

[DkKoba]

you said:

you're sure scum is on your wagon

then voted ramicus


I just connected the dots there. what's the truth then?

[DkKoba]

i read like 6 posts from menalque iso and theyre town

thus confirmation biasing that pooky is preflipped town off scum mt


ez game

[DkKoba]

scum pooky pushing town is like the most blatant thing ever and i would know if i saw it lol

[DkKoba]

i'm in the 1%

[DkKoba]

if you cant read pooky then read menalque who is much more readable to the average player than pooky

[DkKoba]

ok but u can just cede that menalque is an easier read than you lol

yes i misread you 2 back in 2020 consistently but most ppl didnt

[DkKoba]

me?

because if u mean me i mean miccros and coalition

and actually in miccros i identified the TvT you had with datisi and was mad no one listened to me after i got forcereplaced

[DkKoba]

her*

[DkKoba]

i mean i kind of know you're scum

but i'm also conflicted because i repped in just to hang out with you so i might not want to kill you even tho you're scum

counterpoint: we have 3 weeks till deadline which is like 2 day phases of a regular game so that's plenty of time

[DkKoba]

if you give me your scum partner we can avoid killing you and hang out for another year

^
agree :3

[DkKoba]

if you give us both thats 2 extra years

[DkKoba]

we already did squid game mafia pooky

[DkKoba]

.. you were literally in the final game there and argued with me about not being able to be paired

[DkKoba]

there was a dance where we eliminated 2 sets of dance partners ...

[DkKoba]

and i absolutely got to finally own Firebringer and take down the reign of terror of team clown while having a russian rave party with enchant. very fun

[DkKoba]

this is a parachute

take parachute

[DkKoba]

i love randing scum against mastina bc she always townreads me as scum lololol

[DkKoba]

dance game where you actually need to post a video of yourself dancing and the moderator decides brackets based on how good the dance was based on who you are allowed to propose a pair to. the higher your standing the more people you're allowed to propose to, and you can't propose to tiers above.

now that ive put this bad idea in this game no one can use it until 2024 at the earliest muahahaha

[DkKoba]

who needs metatells

just be willing to whatever :3

[DkKoba]

FIVE HUNDRED??


seeing who randed scum that game, that was an easy town win

[DkKoba]

norwee and I just outpost everyone and win lolol

[DkKoba]

oh and loki yes

[DkKoba]

i forgot nora too

mathblade wasnt in the game at the start and the game might have prompted more replacements so we dont know if he was gonna be scum there

[DkKoba]

koba you would've died in like the first 2 hours

nahhhh i woulda won bc im pro

[DkKoba]

look ok i might have lost this one game on epicmafia where i had a post restriction to not post after a post with a vote and managed to get myself modkilled on day 2 by hyperposting but thats besides the point

[DkKoba]

desperate distancing

^

[DkKoba]

I've never apologized for not letting scum win but sure

[DkKoba]

This is a parachute

[DkKoba]

VOTE: morning tweet
Sure ig

You guess?

Whats your read on the slot?

Who do you think are viable partners to MT?

[DkKoba]

imagine thinking I need a reason to go after my favorite bat

w i l d

*flops ears*

[DkKoba]

VOTE: pooky
Ill explain in a week or so

[DkKoba]

This is the most serious game I have ever made.

I'm not sure this sentence is untrue. That's not to say this is a serious game.

This is a parachute.

take parachute

[DkKoba]

noob gamma forgot to quote the post

[DkKoba]

it was part of a large theme that finished this year that pooky hosted(that i carried in >:) )

[DkKoba]

Also the game i was waiting on t9 finish to explain my pooky vote finished, not letting him skate by.w o any analysis

[DkKoba]

thats fine, im patient. I will maintain my vote here until you show some cognition.

[DkKoba]

good thing the deadlines are long then eh?

[DkKoba]

i have a 1 week break after xmas im letting myself tryhard to the point of actually reading the whole game so look out for that (:
No one will be safe

[DkKoba]

im unpocketable

[DkKoba]

true

[DkKoba]

i have further evidence that is shareable against pooky now

[DkKoba]

AYO i haven't forgotten. catch me thursday night

[DkKoba]

ok epic
ez read

[DkKoba]

give snap reads on pooky and mt pls

[DkKoba]

VOTE: dwlee

[DkKoba]

VOTE: mt ok dwlee is town

[DkKoba]

but it mt flips scum i retract that

[DkKoba]

Pooky - do you think I've been trying to derail an MT lim here? Be honest.

[DkKoba]

Reading ISOs now - read Postie's and I think they are scum.

Postie- claim your night actions please and why you did them.

[DkKoba]

fuck am I ic now??? does that mean I actually ahve to do stuff

ok this makes the game easier if i dont actually have to sort dwlee but i already lean them town so F

[DkKoba]

@FB you gotta replace gamma, they're banned rn and are supposed to be replaced lol

[DkKoba]

OH i see. korina desperado'd Mcmenno slot.

so dwlee is clear


which is not as based as being able to find their alignment on my own smh

[DkKoba]

so far i think its likely Postie + MT and im not as sure on Pooky because he has a plan past MT which is uncharacteristic for his scum meta in recent times.

[DkKoba]

Postie - scum
mcmenno Dwlee99 - cpnftown
SaskeIsMyYaoiKismesis Vedith The Worst Jackie the Wolfie - ???
Irrelephant11 Menalque PookytheMagicalBear - townlean off MT scum, scum off MT town
Ramcius - town off MT scum, scum off MT town
Frozen Angel Saladman27 TheGoldenParadox Morning Twwet - scum
Overki111 Dkkoba - pretty damn townie
Leodanny Salamence20 DrippingGoofball - townie off MT flipping scum i believe
Gamma Emerald - null - but would PoE alongside jack the wolf slot

where im at rn, havent read into Gamma, ramicus, or JtW slot.

[DkKoba]

is anyone alive in game around

[DkKoba]

im getting another drink, I really want postie to chime in before day end though because im not a fan of that slot because their ISO feels like going under the radar and all and they claimed BP vig which is majorly suspicious with all the macho flips and all plus titus' flip feels like a counter to the claimed role.8

[DkKoba]

@postie if you have any vig shots left, please shoot:

Pooky if MT flips town

Gamma or Jake if MT flips scum

do not deviate from this

[DkKoba]

oh right its already limlo-1

nvm if MT flips town and ur a vig then shoot whoever bc if ur town vig thats all u and if ur scum vig ur just shooting to win anyways lmfao

[DkKoba]

I JUST SAW A TWEET ON TWITTER THAT SAYS NEVER TRUST A FURRY WHOS NAME IS [name]THE[species] AND I THINK IT WAS A SIGN

jake is scum confirmed

[DkKoba]

ok jake's iso is pretty much barren of game related content i would 100% eject that slot on an MT scum flip easily.

[DkKoba]

IF WE MISS HERE WE GO THRU EVERYONE AND BE THOROUGH BTW
no excuses

no exceptions(except dwlee slot, but they prob die anyways)

and every massclaims all roles and actions

IDC IF UR EGO IS TOO BIG TO NOT

u do it anyways or ur essentially throwing

[DkKoba]

koba why the fuck would you out that im conftown

Because one finds that out just by reading the game...?

[DkKoba]

happy new year

vote MT

[DkKoba]

oh so NOW you decide to wake up MT...

VOTE: pooky CW this, MT IS TOWN

I REPEAT

MT IS TOWN

[DkKoba]

DGB is like null but in a way that hits me the wrong way more than Jake did, I suppose. Their gameplay is a joke of "This game is going to fast" and "This game is torture" and "I'm going to start playing next year" .

It is voting me and part of why I'm dying though, so negative points there as well

COUNTER WAGONNNNN GO

[DkKoba]

VOTE: Morning Tweet

scumclaim

[DkKoba]

also who tf are u

[DkKoba]

wtf dont game related post if youre not in the game ur actually interfereing

[DkKoba]

MT has towntold -> counterwagon onto POOKY please and thank you.

[DkKoba]

no seriously youre not supposed to post game related stuff unless you're alive.

[DkKoba]

oh nevermind.

if you werent in the game you can content post but annoying as fuck.

[DkKoba]

if youre going to post shit about the game actually post scumhunting content and not just flood thread thx

[DkKoba]

oh so NOW you decide to wake up MT...

VOTE: pooky CW this, MT IS TOWN

I REPEAT

MT IS TOWN

DGB is like null but in a way that hits me the wrong way more than Jake did, I suppose. Their gameplay is a joke of "This game is going to fast" and "This game is torture" and "I'm going to start playing next year" .

It is voting me and part of why I'm dying though, so negative points there as well

COUNTER WAGONNNNN GO

MT has towntold -> counterwagon onto POOKY please and thank you.

hi please vote pooky, ignore the normals

[DkKoba]

>.>

[DkKoba]

Congrats DK although dont you think it's a bit late to be townreading me

I could say the same about your putting in an effort

[DkKoba]

its postie + pooky + prob ramicus atp.

pooky hasn't even had a single townie thought process since repping in and their predessessors didnt either


and excuse me but i thought MT was scum until their most recent string of posts.

perhaps if people not playing teh game didnt spam it it would be obvious.

[DkKoba]

it doesnt matter how long MT "lolcatted" they towntold and thats it. you dont get that mislim anymore if i can help it.



also shirou i found scum pooky twice in recent games including a replace in from pooky and it was a very very similar type of replace in as this game where even MT replaced into a slot - so excuse me if I think I have better accuracy on this front. you of course think thats a wrong conclusion so obviously that means hurr koba has to be scum but consider: koba is correct and is actually in fact, good at the game.

[DkKoba]

pooky hasn't stopped lolcatting since replacing in which is funny tho lol


i thought pooky was bussing MT bc they were already gunning for me as someone "bussing" MT but yeah

[DkKoba]

also I would be surprised if TGP as scum claimed loud tracker without a d1 target

that's some seriously wonky claim, he could have simply claimed...anything else and it would probably be better. No reason to claim "loud" especially. Even if some of the recent MT posting sounds like scum trying to guilty trip people into the "you'll be sorry/feel silly for voting me later" stance, I kinda feel like dunno, TGP wagon existed since forever, and seems to have no real resistance whatsoever. Doesn't feel like a scum wagon to me.

But again, I guess this is a meme game, anything can happen. Not impossible MT is scum I guess.

remember that TGP claiming tracker is the REASON they're voting me in the first place

I've already said why the case is garbage, no one cared

u understand that stuff is >rand scum and a good starting point right?

a claim that is intentionally, whether by negligence or not, unproven when it is claimed to be provable, is >rand scum when unproven on later days.

[DkKoba]

but regardless ur postings today were definitely townie- and I won't deny you that.

[DkKoba]

rofl koba you couldnt catch me as scum if i was a reverse ic

right:

never seen anyone ever tank the towniness of a slot upon replace in but now ive seen it
VOTE: pooky

PookyTheMagicalBear has been eliminated! He was a:

GeorgeBailey

Old Gods

You are "lost" with XXX. You may talk to XXX at anytime in the thread linked here.

You are scum with ZZZZ. You may talk to ZZZ anytime in the thread linked here. Your faction may kill 1 player each night.

You win when your faction makes up the majority of the remaining players or nothing can be done to prevent this. Good Luck.

The game thread is here. Please confirm by replying to this PM with your role name and alignment.

[DkKoba]

holden would have sheeped me too lmfao

[DkKoba]

fwiw i agree with everything tweetie is saying and pooky's treatment of tweetie is my primary motivation in wanting pooky's slot dead here.

[DkKoba]

they already are

[DkKoba]

I'll vote MT if we need to get a majority here but id seriously rather get pooky here

[DkKoba]

4 hours till deadline and 4 votes on MT and 2 on pooky.
Check in so we can coordinate

[DkKoba]

I dont wanna end the day in a no lim here because after reading im pretty sure theres no more vig shots

[DkKoba]

Pooky is already on the MT wagon

[DkKoba]

dwlee and I are voting pooky, idk why mt wont self pres at least here but id rather them not die :/ mt vote pooky please maybe people will show up.

Its like a tiny hope but its only 2 votes we need if u vote with us

[DkKoba]

VOTE: postie

[DkKoba]

I, DkKoba, have a dream

[DkKoba]

e-1 lets go

[DkKoba]

We had five deaths in one night and the mafia we flipped had black text as a name, pretty sure this is multiball

where? i thought it was just a bunch of vigs

[DkKoba]

1 hour left... im a bit busy but i got an alarm set

[DkKoba]

imagine having a full year to achieve a wagon and then doing it at the last hour lole

Last second counter wagons ftw

[DkKoba]

The person thinks theyre safe and then BLAM town counter wagons them

[DkKoba]

I hardclaim bulletproof

[DkKoba]

ok what do u claim then

[DkKoba]

I have a soft guilty on koba

impossible because i am just a bulletproof.

[DkKoba]

also in what world do i kill MT who was townreading me rofl

[DkKoba]

thats 100% a pooky kill.

[DkKoba]

dwlee please just make pooky claim

VOTE: Pooky

[DkKoba]

Did my slot ever claim

yes now stop reaction testing me

[DkKoba]

ok claim it because im full claimed

[DkKoba]

just like u would never kill Firebringer?

[DkKoba]

Koba I'm conftown homie. I call the shots :3

just claim ur soft guilty so i can explain it bc its probably bunk

[DkKoba]

nah i know dwlee is reaction testing and its a bad test

[DkKoba]

i want pooky to claim rn so they cant make a claim up while theye in a state where they prob dont have a fakeclaim ready

[DkKoba]

its pooky + DGB

[DkKoba]

+gamma

[DkKoba]

Homie I actually have a soft guilty

im full claimed so its either a full guilty or a not guilty

[DkKoba]

Gunsmith check?

cant be red on me

Neap check?
can't show as VT

rolecop check?

will show my role claim as is

tracker check?

cant show anything because i didnt go anywhere

watcher/motion detector check?
that shit aint involved with me

[DkKoba]

I need DGB to full claim so cya in 2 months maybe

just say ur a fucking watcher because theres 0 way u have a soft guilty on a BP claim

[DkKoba]

koba dead in 2023 cya

there's no way i die today

[DkKoba]

LMFAO

[DkKoba]

so it was a watcher check and the soft guilty isnt on me

thanks dwlee for clearing it up!

[DkKoba]

because its impossible? lmfao

[DkKoba]

dwlee is claiming a soft guilty which is impossible with my role

[DkKoba]

except with motion detector IG but that is still nothing to do with me

[DkKoba]

dwlee just make pooky claim ffs

[DkKoba]

actually wait its not gamma is fucking


ramicus
pooky
DGB

fucking easy

[DkKoba]

god i wish i could just dayvig pooky rn

[DkKoba]

scummy tbh

[DkKoba]

dwlee just claim ur damn watcher result, DGB and I are claimed

DGB claimed loud and i hardclaim no message

[DkKoba]

Overkill, explain why DGB visited you.

DGB, explain why you visited Overkill.

Doc protection.

[DkKoba]

actually fuck it

Shoot: DGB

[DkKoba]

WOO WE DID IT

[DkKoba]

also pooky u were scum with dgb lolol did u try to shoot me

[DkKoba]

sorry for taking so long after daystart i had to weigh my options based on possible gamestates

[DkKoba]

wait, it was jake the wolfe and DGB?

[DkKoba]

ho ho guess i don't have to give tweetie those ear flops

way to get pockited by obvscum koba

tbf i was hunting for the other mafia and no1 knew it was multiball except other mafia

[DkKoba]

3 YEAR DAYVIG HOLD

[DkKoba]

ngl yeah it was pretty bullshit to win that way but also tbf town didnt use all their resources while sadist mafia did

[DkKoba]

yall i was so paranoid that my gun wouldnt work and we would just autolose

[DkKoba]

i'm not mafia rofl

WHAT WHY DID YOU SCUMREAD ME SO DAMN HARD

^^ pooky fr made me think he was lockscum for the way he treated you ;-;

[DkKoba]

but she did it later and u still called her scum LOL

[DkKoba]

wild that the sadist mafia had the least number of relplacements too - gamma and ramicus held those slots the whole game and dodged lims even tho they had a minefield of info to pin them down on.

[DkKoba]

....this game was 11v6?

yeah but look at town roles lol

[DkKoba]

OH shit i didnt think of that lmfaooo

[DkKoba]

i got rolestopped AND jailkept LMFAO

[DkKoba]

i mean i didnt care i just wanted to find a good shoot LMFAO

[DkKoba]

RAMICUS I TOLD U THAT OTHER MAFIA WOULD TRY TO SHOOT ME

[DkKoba]

@FB did postie have any shots left?

[DkKoba]

[DkKoba]

were there even any bulletproof players alive btw ? or did i have anxiety over nothing xD

[DkKoba]

holy balls thats a stacked asf town

[DkKoba]

Nominated both Ramicus and Gamma Emerald for this game. While I understand Gamma's ban situation - I think her play was still worthy of a nomination here.

[DkKoba]

Goodfellas
04/01/22	DkKoba	Ramicus and Gamma Emerald	Masochist Mafia II	These 2 stuck through a >3 year game as scum together and managed to pull off the win. While I personally pulled the trigger that won the game, these 2 dodged all the town power and such and didn't lose a single member. Both Ramicus and GE had high post counts in the game, mainly Ramicus, and they were controlling the game state fairly well. The perfect win was well deserved.

[DkKoba]

Also I'm sad that it's over

sorry for blowing my load so early

[DkKoba]

while sadist mafia did

I tried to kill your slot last year but failed so..............

I got jailkept

[DkKoba]

I was afraid of possible altruist dayvig