Mini 2251: Triplicate! GAME OVER!

[RCEnigma]

I still understand nothing. Expect no change in that regard.

[RCEnigma]

I still understand nothing. Expect no change in that regard.

you vote someone
if they get limped then they get limmed in all 3 games

I still understand nothing. Expect no change in that regard.

you vote someone
if they get limped then they get limmed in all 3 games

Only for the first lim. After that, shenanigans ensue.

Yeah this. So like is the objective just that town wins the mini theme and not the other two games?

Also timers are offset so I'm sure there is a way to cheese votes by getting a game into night phase(not masons and Mafia) and then manipulating the day phase in the remaining game to avoid a double elim in 2 games. But I don't know how.

[RCEnigma]

ATTENTION: PLEASE READ CAREFULLY

NOT SURE IF THIS THE OPTIMAL PLAY, BUT I SOLVED GAME 3

SCUM ARE HOUSE/DUNN/RR/RCE (I promise NOT ONE is wrong). I'll even go as far as telling you that RCE is Ben, RR is Alisson, Dunn is in Reginald/Luther/Diego and House is Reginald/Luther/Diego

Note: One of Reginald/Luther/Diego is -obviously- a Mason, and I know "the player" and suspect it's Diego, but regardless.. we need not specify which player holds which anonymous alt. All wee need to do is VOTE OUT SCUM

Pros of my move:

We now have a pool of 4 to eliminate on D1. Since the D1 lim seems to have to be on the same player on all 3 games; we need to make sure they're scum in at least one game

Cons of my move:

Well, I'll be dead in Game 3. Not actually a "con" per se because (a) it gives me more time to concentrate on the other 2 games and (b) EVEN if all 4 Masons are dead the remaining 5 Townies can still win it for us.

Which brings me back to the PROS actually. If we lim outside this pool we are risking Scum potentially winning the game via killing the Masons and thus achieving parity.

....I have to dive into this but I think you're scum telling before gamestart.

[RCEnigma]

These are the same names Jingle used in his secret alt game.

Thank you

Did you notice that I claimed MASON? This means I am a member of the Scum/Masons thread and I know the 8 members of the Hargreaves family (as I'm one of them).

RCE & RR both made a severe mistake by posting in said thread and the main thread almost simultaneously. RR even did it twice. If you wish to remain anonymous you need to post in the main thread at a certain time and in the anon thread on a totally different time, or -at the very least- make sure the main thread is active enough when you use the anon thread so you can't be singled out as the one and only player active at the time. (Sorry if you think it's a dirty trick, but all is fair in War and Mafia)

I won't say how I found out about House & Dunn yet, but I am still confident there too.

P-edit: THANK YOU Ircher for actually reacting to my revelation.

P-edit 2: Beetlejuice much? @House

Ughhhhh I wanna townread this but it's all so antitown

[RCEnigma]

Second thought I don't buy it VOTE: A50

On one hand it's so rolephishy (I guess alt in this case) because any of the slots in that Poe could slip trying to defend themselves and outing themselves as VT.

On top of that if A50 isn't scum then he's outing as mason and eats a day kill whether scum is in that Poe or not.

[RCEnigma]

....I have to dive into this but I think you're scum telling before gamestart.

YES, and I picked the perfect setup to do it too. The one setup where there are THREE OTHER MASONS who can confirm me.

Listen, we can ALL out.. all four of us, and Town still wins that game. The beauty of it is if you guys shoot us we only die in that game too, so if you're Town in the other 2 games it's a safe route to take.

So the other two games don't matter then?

[RCEnigma]

On top of that if A50 isn't scum then he's outing as mason and eats a day kill whether scum is in that Poe or not.

We can lim you instead.

Super scary.

[RCEnigma]

Second thought I don't buy it VOTE: A50

On one hand it's so rolephishy (I guess alt in this case) because any of the slots in that Poe could slip trying to defend themselves and outing themselves as VT.

On top of that if A50 isn't scum then he's outing as mason and eats a day kill whether scum is in that Poe or not.

Disagree. He strikes me as tryhard town.

Fair to assume but I'm familiar with A50 Gambit play (which I assume this to be) and more so from his mafiastyle than his town go-to.

[RCEnigma]

SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME IF THE ALIGNMENTS IN THE OTHER GAMES MATTER!

[RCEnigma]

VOTE: [/unvote]

[RCEnigma]

Second thought I don't buy it VOTE: A50

On one hand it's so rolephishy (I guess alt in this case) because any of the slots in that Poe could slip trying to defend themselves and outing themselves as VT.

On top of that if A50 isn't scum then he's outing as mason and eats a day kill whether scum is in that Poe or not.

Disagree. He strikes me as tryhard town.

Fair to assume but I'm familiar with A50 Gambit play (which I assume this to be) and more so from his mafiastyle than his town go-to.

I'm thinking he's VT fishing for a day kill attempt.

That's what I was getting at. But if the alignments don't matter for the main game then I'm not sure it matters that's he's vt fishing in the masons game if that makes sense.

[RCEnigma]

Oh? Good thing that unvote was botched then.

[RCEnigma]

ATTENTION: PLEASE READ CAREFULLY

NOT SURE IF THIS THE OPTIMAL PLAY, BUT I SOLVED GAME 3

SCUM ARE HOUSE/DUNN/RR/RCE (I promise NOT ONE is wrong). I'll even go as far as telling you that RCE is Ben, RR is Alisson, Dunn is in Reginald/Luther/Diego and House is Reginald/Luther/Diego

Note: One of Reginald/Luther/Diego is -obviously- a Mason, and I know "the player" and suspect it's Diego, but regardless.. we need not specify which player holds which anonymous alt. All wee need to do is VOTE OUT SCUM

Pros of my move:

We now have a pool of 4 to eliminate on D1. Since the D1 lim seems to have to be on the same player on all 3 games; we need to make sure they're scum in at least one game

Cons of my move:

Well, I'll be dead in Game 3. Not actually a "con" per se because (a) it gives me more time to concentrate on the other 2 games and (b) EVEN if all 4 Masons are dead the remaining 5 Townies can still win it for us.

Which brings me back to the PROS actually. If we lim outside this pool we are risking Scum potentially winning the game via killing the Masons and thus achieving parity.

....I have to dive into this but I think you're scum telling before gamestart.

I missed this, why is A50 scum?

He's trying to get one of the 4 in his Poe to out as VT.

[RCEnigma]

Second thought I don't buy it VOTE: A50

On one hand it's so rolephishy (I guess alt in this case) because any of the slots in that Poe could slip trying to defend themselves and outing themselves as VT.

On top of that if A50 isn't scum then he's outing as mason and eats a day kill whether scum is in that Poe or not.

Disagree. He strikes me as tryhard town.

Fair to assume but I'm familiar with A50 Gambit play (which I assume this to be) and more so from his mafiastyle than his town go-to.

I'm thinking he's VT fishing for a day kill attempt.

That's what I was getting at. But if the alignments don't matter for the main game then I'm not sure it matters that's he's vt fishing in the masons game if that makes sense.

It has to matter, otherwise this:

Daykill: At any time in the game, you may PM the moderator a daykill attempt. If that player is a Mason they will die. If the player is a Townie, the kill backfires and you will suicide.

... makes no sense.

Jingle confirm.ed it does but the open setup is nightless and the day kill is their method of murder so I don't get what you mean?

[RCEnigma]

Because VT exists in the open setup?

What I was asking was more like, is there any consequence for town losing one of the other games in relation to the mini theme. In my head the mini theme was the ultimate goal for town to win and the other two were like side parts of the main game.

[RCEnigma]

So the other two games don't matter then?

They do, and I did explain it. I needed to guarantee a SCUM FLIP on ANY of the games on D1. After that all 3 games take their separate ways, and we can play as usual (well, almost as usual, because someone could roll Scum in one setup and a TPR on another). It would suck though if we flipped someone who had rolled Town in all three games.

This setup is gonna do my head in.

[RCEnigma]

Fair to assume but I'm familiar with A50 Gambit play (which I assume this to be)

1- You're SCUM (in Setup 3)
2- You're BAD at reading me in general (just refer yourself to the most recent 2-3 games)
3- YOU ARE CAUFGHT SCUM IN SETUP 3
4- If I was gambit'ing I would have done it in NOT THE OPEN SETUP
5- Did I mention you're just outed scum??

1- no
2- yes, I've lost my confidence in correctly reading you. But I can still read you unconfidently.
3. I'm fairly sure my posting I. The maf/mason thread would out my main. Sure I could alter my style to avoid this. But if I was willing to do that why wouldn't I go to the trouble of hiding my online presence? Ofr ust not posting to the main thread?

[RCEnigma]

I think I am understanding the A50 bit now but I still don't get how they know who is mafia.

As your lawyer for the open setup. Stop talking.

[RCEnigma]

Ah, that doesn't seem super convincing though why couldn't it be a different person online?

It could. It could be anyone at anytime. But then why push it? It's a reaction thing and you and I dropped the ball

VOTE: unvote

[RCEnigma]

A50 youre putting me between a rock and a hard place. I literally cannot defend without hurting town inside and outside of the open setup. If I go down here I'd look at my votes as likely red in more than 1 setup.

[RCEnigma]

I almost called house town in A50s Poe. He's the next elim after mine 100%

I kind of skipped over the fact scum had to actively be around to make the shot.

[RCEnigma]

Actually, considering shot timing is on jingle not scum I retract that. Waiting for my unvote to make the kill doesn't line up.
VOTE: Chloe

[RCEnigma]

Oh wait this is a serious wagon.
UNVOTE:

Meg confirmed scum with RCE.

.....I expect better from town!you

[RCEnigma]

A50 youre putting me between a rock and a hard place. I literally cannot defend without hurting town inside and outside of the open setup. If I go down here I'd look at my votes as likely red in more than 1 setup.

Can you explain how this hurts town outside of the open setup?

No.

[RCEnigma]

VOTE: Dunn

I think Chloe is still a decent vote but. Yeah.

[RCEnigma]

Oh wait this is a serious wagon.
UNVOTE:

Meg confirmed scum with RCE.

.....I expect better from town!you

Feels fake, tbh.

Nobody that actually knows me expects much of anything worthwhile from town!me.

I only have final fantasy to judge your competency from but you were pretty good. Also you have eyes and meg towntold so 0/2 from you is disappointing.

[RCEnigma]

RCEnigma does not want to combat a foe he is unfamiliar with.

The fear is delicious.

Well I realized dying here doesn't elim me from the other games so whatever catches scum here is fine.

[RCEnigma]

Ooo, I can still get hammered if scum are quick enough though.

[RCEnigma]

Man this setup is so damn cool but I regret joining lol

[RCEnigma]

Oh wait this is a serious wagon.
UNVOTE:

Meg confirmed scum with RCE.

.....I expect better from town!you

Feels fake, tbh.

Nobody that actually knows me expects much of anything worthwhile from town!me.

I only have final fantasy to judge your competency from but you were pretty good. Also you have eyes and meg towntold so 0/2 from you is disappointing.

I used our ROLE well in FF.

My day play was ass. Yume course corrected us more than once.

Also? You'll notice my involvement was barely noticed post-game BECAUSE I'm widely viewed as shit town.

You were pretty blatantly town. I think cheeky suspected you late game but you weren't really on my scumradar.

[RCEnigma]

Ooo, I can still get hammered if scum are quick enough though.

You assume only scum wants your blood.

I assume scum shot when they shot purposefully and that leaves a handful of people. House I'm excluding for the moment

[RCEnigma]

BANG! BANG!

Radical Rat has DIED in the Open Game.

He was: A Radical Rat.

Also

Spoiler:

A Mafioso

Whuu

[RCEnigma]

Oh forgot that was a thing.

[RCEnigma]

And NOW the elimination threshold in Game 3 should be lowered to 6.

Thanks bud, the real mvp

[RCEnigma]

You can flip me in the open and then take Meg and Mastina out of the pool. I have one more guess on a townie I'd not out yet. Masons can choose if they out or not but town can Poe the game.

[RCEnigma]

Votes are not reset in games a or b so watch out

I have to clock in so please please ease police the votes.

[RCEnigma]

VOTE: RCEnigma

Simply Perish

VOTE: RCE

VOTE: RCE

I forgot that in this mechanic the votes are reset after a flip.

You know that doesn't apply to game 3 since we're dead, right? Or do you think RCE's scum in the others too?

RCEnigma has not died in any game to my understanding?

A50 is voting me in game 1 and 2 not game 3.

[RCEnigma]

This setup is gonna do my head in.

For the record:
I point you to a post like this for proof that RCE is

not

town in all three games. If you are town in all three of your games, then the game's not hard to wrap your head around. You're scumhunting just like normal and as you know yourself to be town in all of them, you play to your town wincon of trying to eliminate the scum.

It's

only

when you have

scum

that the game becomes more complicated. It's only when you have different alignments in your games that it becomes more of a headache in the way RCE is describing.

That, aside from how a fully-town RCE never makes a post like this in the first place.

You rolled scum, didn't you?

This is also not a town response from Ircher.

There's a

damn

good reason that my vote pool is {RCE, Ircher, MegAzumarill} and that's because I legit think that those three are all scum in

at least

one game, and that of the players in the game, they are the ones with the highest chances of actually being scum in

more

than one game.

Err the setup is complicated regardless of alignments. Like there is so much that was unclear even without knowing how it works. And finding out how it works there is so much more to the game like the voting or scum being able to share information across games or use their scum pt in one game as a pseudo neighborhood for another or cross game poes and the list keeps going.

I'd make a post like that as either alignment so half credit I guess.

[RCEnigma]

The shame disturbed my sleep. Deepest apologies RCEnigma.

It's cool. Should have trusted my gut on the house thing.

[RCEnigma]

Now 113, on the other hand.
THAT post, THAT is a scumclaim from RCEnigma.

So the read's right, I just think you called the wrong post a scumclaim.

I don't usually get mad in Mafia games but I will literally flip my shit if the scumclaim thing keeps being thrown around as a GOTCHYA! thing. This isn't at you specifically because EVERYONE does it and it's so awful and dumb. They're nai posts.

Feels super hypocritical to say because I said it to A50 but he was calling town!me scum for an angleshoot that had nothing to do with me but damn.

[RCEnigma]

Been awhile cheeky. Hoping you're town cuz I need an anchor.

[RCEnigma]

Meg is town in 3 for sure and I kind of want to blitz game three before worrying about the other two games for the sake of clarity, or however close we can get to that.

[RCEnigma]

T3 hasn't used meta in at least half of his posts so I'm pretty sure he's an alt being played by someone else and the real t3 is stuck in the mason thread.

[RCEnigma]

Not really, I've played 1 game with scum!t3 and 1 game with town!t3. So like my metric for him is mostly activity and wim but I wouldn't consider either accurate.

[RCEnigma]

For hard reads, A50 probably town in the remaining games. My only issue was him pushing me directly but outside of that I felt he was town.

If Dunn is scum in game 3 he's probably town in the other 2. Meg is town in game 3 and I'm gonna go ahead and say ircher is too, I don't have a read on either outside of game 3 context though.

[RCEnigma]

I've sort of come around on Taly too but I honestly don't know if it's just because I enjoy Taly as a person in general lol.

[RCEnigma]

T3 is like scary good at reading me. So I'm kinda curious what my metatell is post game.

Anyway I was misreading an early post that Meg made as them not knowing how the mason role worked in game 3 implying they didn't have access to the pt.

Amy, dwlee, and Chloe all look blatant town in game 3. If there are masons within Mastina/Dunn/cheeky/t3/ircher the game is completeable soon.

[RCEnigma]

I'd be surprised if Dunn/Mastina doesn't end game 3.

[RCEnigma]

We're only worrying about game 3 right now to avoid voting conflict in the other games.

[RCEnigma]

Who's your bet if Dunn flips town?

[RCEnigma]

I still buy Meg as scum in game 1 or 2 and Mastina as scum in 3 or whichever one of game 1/2 Meg isn't scum in.

[RCEnigma]

True, scum wouldn't say they aren't scum. You're both confirmed in my book.

[RCEnigma]

Confirmed town. To be clear.

[RCEnigma]

I don't want to read back, did the masons claim?

[RCEnigma]

LOL

[RCEnigma]

I was gonna say how did scum win if two VTs are still alive lol.

[RCEnigma]

Tldr town won

[RCEnigma]

it's gonna be really hard for me to pull of scum wins in both the normal and the theme though
/j

That's what you have me and Mastina for. Our theater is pretty good so far.

[RCEnigma]

Reminder to self: #985 is the post that got me and T3 speed elimmed. End notes.

[RCEnigma]

I don't really have the time to get all my thoughts down but if I don't write some of this down now I'll forget about it over the night. So:

T3/Mastina unlikely scum pairing
Ircher/a50 likely aligned the same in both games. Which is tricky because they could be (town/town, scum/scum)(town in all) or (scum in all) but I'm leaning town across the board for both.

I had ircher as a mason read early in game 3 not for specific interactions but how they interacted long term over the course of the game. Which was wrong but points to a broader direction they're taking over all games opposed to one.

Take those both with a grain of salt.

Also sideread I had a moontheory that T3 and dwlee could be scum partners, lovers, or neighbors in another game and it influenced t3 taking a shot on Amy over dwlee via another channels influence (PT) despite him believing dwlee was mason initially.

Or Amy + t3 works in the same capacity but like....reverse.

I have t3 as town for now though but it might be because of accurate reading on their part and not because they are actually just town. I do acknowledge that scum!t3 would call me town from a meta standpoint as well so it's like a pocket that I'm aware of that doesn't seem like a pocket.

[RCEnigma]

Oh and Chloe town across the remaining games is probably my most confident read. I don't really see them as partners with any slot.

[RCEnigma]

Now that I say it like that though, demon lord is in the mini theme and not the normal so could possibly be 3p.

[RCEnigma]

Oh Interesting I didn't even think of it as a modifier I was just thinking it was an anon vote ability.

[RCEnigma]

RCEnigma, only mastina has stated that I am pure in all games.

Do you think her stance is informed or uninformed?

Err I think that's more of a question you have to answer yourself because I don't know your history.

I came to that conclusion being uninformed so it isn't a stretch to say town!Mastina could as well. But you and I don't have history playing together. I don't know how Mastina approaches reading you as either alignment if it's attempted pocketing you're worried about

[RCEnigma]

I don't think I can read Mastina off of that specifically. I do think she has an agenda influencing how she's reading specific slots but It becomes more apparent with more information.

I don't think she's scum in multiple games so overall not fully informed. She's making a guess in at least 1 game of your alignment. Well two including game 3.

[RCEnigma]

Mastina is either very insightful on me or the opposite.

At the very least, their blistering indignation at others disagreeing with reads is a distraction from understanding her thoroughly.

Agreed. But I tend to ignore AtE stuff since I know I have a bias and it's a surefire way for me to scumread someone.

[RCEnigma]

I don't really have the time to get all my thoughts down but if I don't write some of this down now I'll forget about it over the night. So:

T3/Mastina unlikely scum pairing
Ircher/a50 likely aligned the same in both games. Which is tricky because they could be (town/town, scum/scum)(town in all) or (scum in all) but I'm leaning town across the board for both.

I had ircher as a mason read early in game 3 not for specific interactions but how they interacted long term over the course of the game. Which was wrong but points to a broader direction they're taking over all games opposed to one.

Take those both with a grain of salt.

Also sideread I had a moontheory that T3 and dwlee could be scum partners, lovers, or neighbors in another game and it influenced t3 taking a shot on Amy over dwlee via another channels influence (PT) despite him believing dwlee was mason initially.

Or Amy + t3 works in the same capacity but like....reverse.

I have t3 as town for now though but it might be because of accurate reading on their part and not because they are actually just town. I do acknowledge that scum!t3 would call me town from a meta standpoint as well so it's like a pocket that I'm aware of that doesn't seem like a pocket.

Last setup debunked all of this statistical crap. Jingle told us that it’s entirely random.

It's reading based on interactions. Did you take nothing from that post?

[RCEnigma]

I have t3 as town for now though but it might be because of accurate reading on their part and not because they are actually just town. I do acknowledge that scum!t3 would call me town from a meta standpoint as well so it's like a pocket that I'm aware of that doesn't seem like a pocket.

I think you T3 could be a thing. Much like your theory of how A50/Ircher are a thing.

I wouldn't really lean into mutually hard townreading my partner as scum. I don't think I've done that in a a game as far as I'm aware ( I'm not super aware) but it feels out of character.

It's fair for you to read us that way though I think.

[RCEnigma]

Hey cheeky, kiss/marry/kill out of Dunn/ircher/myself.

If you wanna wait till Daystart that's cool too.

[RCEnigma]

Bah.

[RCEnigma]

D: look what you did scum!

[RCEnigma]

If I die before day 2 in every game I'm taking my ball and going home.

[RCEnigma]

You know you can hide active status right

Of courcs I know.

If I wanted to hide activity, I would.

Butyv why the fuck would I want to?

I WANT peoplebto know
TheEXACT time I am online and aru
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People have accused me of lurking in a scumputh before. A lack of being online makes such accusations farb less credible.

Ok so discord is also a method of comms for scum to use which ruins this as a townclear.

With that said I'll tag along with this once. Because using something like this might not be against the rules but is a gross misuse of trust and oog influence that goes against the spirit of the game.

I hope for your sake you never flip scum.

[RCEnigma]

If I die before day 2 in every game I'm taking my ball and going home.

You have at least a few hours during which you're effectively a Townstump for Game 1.
Who did you JK? What are your final reads?

Oh right I was just going to chance it and hold the info but I might be donezo and I didn't crumb anything since in my head I could just stay in thread when I die.

I jailkept cheeky. There was a post she made way early that I was going to soft on but yeah I had the immortal RC thought.

[RCEnigma]

I'm not really confident in any of my reads after game 3 and my flip doesn't really change how I feel about slots I e already posted about.

[RCEnigma]

I jailkept cheeky. There was a post she made way early that I was going to soft on but yeah I had the immortal RC thought.

Do you mean you softed something or saw a post from Cheeky that encouraged you to soft but didn't?

The latter. Because I don't need a soft if I can still post.

[RCEnigma]

VOTE: Dwlee

RCE why did you JK me?

Umm I felt like your play was clashing and you were scum in one of the games. Like in one you're genuinely solvey and the other you're a lot more coordinated than we were in ffxiv which says multiple voices to me.

It makes sense because even with differing role pms there is still a town one to hide behind so I feel like meta is a poor indicator with multiple games still on the table.

Also there is divergence in that read with Chloe. Like I'm reading Chloe town for pretty much the opposite reasons. Like the confusion over voting and setup format etc. Which echoed how I was feeling being introduced to all the mechanics in the setup.

[RCEnigma]

I am, how one would say, "tilted."

The repeated misuse of "clear" in the current site meta is frustrating.

Clear as in innocent? Or clear as obvious? because that point isn't quite clear for me. Is my question clear enough? Can you please clear it up for me?

They clearly mean clear not clear.

[RCEnigma]

Mastina you're angleshooting very hard and I think it is in poor taste regardless of your alignment here

Poor taste?

Sure!

But it's not against the rules.

And playing to my wincon > having good taste.

As long as vits not a violation of site rules, I'm obligated to try and do evverything to win.
Kingon
And angle shooting to conftown myself isBeun precisely that.
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Beung mislimmed as a BP is the only losecon I can see, so avoiding I t at all costs is playing to win.

And yall have only yourselves to blame anyway.

I SHOULD be obvtown by play.

I CANt pull this shit o f as sTVcum.
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I DID halrd townslip.
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But in spite of this being TGE TOCAWNIEST I'VE EVER BEENQ, I'm STILL at riimsk of being mislimmed as a fucking bulletproof, who scum CAN'T i.gukill, barring them burning a strongman.

So damn right I'm going to use EVERY tool in my arsenal to avert that.

No one is voting you Mastina, just play the game.

[RCEnigma]

I think you look better post jk and I wanted to sort you quickly. Not sure if I can catch scum!you but I know town!you can be effective.

[RCEnigma]

I don't get how I'm clashing though so and you're also saying meta is trash and using meta in the same breath. Lady played in the last iteration of the triple game so their confusion is meh Imo.

I'm aware lol. On one hand I can see you playing to a town wincon and the other hand it feels like you also have some kind of guidance.

Amy kept bringing up the other game played in this format but idk who else played in it. So that's kind of interesting actually.

[RCEnigma]

I never doubt Jason Statham so.

[RCEnigma]

Is it not confirmed one of T3/Mastina is 4p/scum and the other is confirmed to be aligned to cheeky?

[RCEnigma]

3p even.

[RCEnigma]

ooo demon lord is its own separate slot.

[RCEnigma]

RR has already flipped scum in C and has been posting a lot more since that flip. I don't understand why he's the lim in A?

I ISO’d RCE earlier and couldn’t find anything that looked remotely like a soft and RCE has never played with scum!RR, not recently anyway. I didn’t bother looking at anything past 2020.

So, it really makes no sense that scum!RR would want RCE dead here.

I've never seen this rat in my life

[RCEnigma]

RR has already flipped scum in C and has been posting a lot more since that flip. I don't understand why he's the lim in A?

Increased engagement does not equate town.

It doesn't. But halting the elim on dwlee to sort game A Dwlee's alignment and coordinate a better elim does.

[RCEnigma]

In Game 2, House is the only other one on the wagon who even CAN be scum I think. It's also possible there isn't another scum besides Dwlee, but I don't see why they wouldn't go for an easy mislim that gets excused by Meg's anti-Town claim. Only reason we're really even looking at the wagon is because of Cheeky's claim, which Scum couldn't have known about beforehand. Off the wagon, I'm still leaning Dunn there, because I don't think I believe the Demon Lord is a Town role, and he should have claimed earlier if it were. A very good slot for a cop check, if one is available.

I was going to ask why Dunn couldn't be scum in game 2 from your perspective but you're voting so it at least serves the purpose of a scumread there...I guess.

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Because it would mean house is also scum and all three pushed Meg. I didn't pose that as a question but I'm answering myself lol.

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I'm not dead, just working doubles 5 days of the week. Almost the same.

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Would be nice to have a game 1 vote right now ..

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We have to lim in A before we vote dwlee out or he's double elimmed anyway and we just wasted a day.

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Specifically in Dunn/T3/RR

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T3 would be my first choice in that group and dwlee is already known scum in game 2 so I don't think Ircher is offbase there.

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Oh Dunn might just be town. He'd be my last choice. Outside of him no one else has used the hood at all.

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oh we're in night, right. my dunn read is mostly irchers read there. there isnt really any hood content. attempts at any discussion are limited to myself ircher and dunn. RR says he'd rather just use the main thread over talking in the hood which..meh i guess.

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Game A is the normal. Idk why Dunn said it's a game A hood. It's a Game B hood.

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In game a I'm in a neighborhood with T3
Dwlee, RR, RCEnigma, House, Ircher

Ircher is still able to post and thinks that there are a lot of scum in the neighborhood due to low post count

Cheeky, what was your wagon result this time?

oh we're in night, right. my dunn read is mostly irchers read there. there isnt really any hood content. attempts at any discussion are limited to myself ircher and dunn. RR says he'd rather just use the main thread over talking in the hood which..meh i guess.

Hard disagree with you here. That sounds pretty town indicative to me.

Especially since there’s one outed scum in the hood.

Agree with Ircher that low post count in general could be scum indicative.

There is a difference between discussing town plans and sorting a small group of slots that are highly likely to contain most of not all of the scum in the game.

It's not like a scummy thing but actually using the hood has town utility. Or at least could have. Idk about now. The plus that comes out of it is that slots can still be active in the hood after death.

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Told you so.
*pop out*

Who would you elim?

Dunn?

T3? Same question.

I strongly tr Cheeky, Titus, Chloe and RR in that order. So scum is in Mastina, T3, Dunn if this is right. So maybe A isn’t a bust yet?

Because if we believe Dwelee’s telling the truth about being town in A, who else is left?

I think this makes sense. I’m less confident on RR but but why does scum!RR kill me? Does that make sense to anyone?

I'm fairly positive T3 flips scum in A and then we go from there. If the team is like cheeky/A50/Chloe I'd lose it cuz damn.

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I had a blast in the parts I did get to play in. This was a super fun format and I'd definitely sign up for future iterations.

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Also, I got some game B townreads but getting mod repped I think really is what made the difference for scum to win there.

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Cuz Alyssa smashed it out of the park.

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I was pretty excited when I saw you were replacing my slot ngl.

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We just didn't know how to play around it. Despite knowing it existed.

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The UB was the part that felt demoralizing because like, we sort of honed in on the role belonging to cheeky from n1 onward AND hit a bulletproof AND thought survivor existed AND was town siding. So it seemed like our corner was smaller than it was.

But also town gonna town so there's that.