Micro 1037: A Normal Blitz IV - Game Over

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my favorite song from that game

VOTE: ydrasse

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol norwee

VOTE: NorwegianBoyEEEEEE

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I found this Cyn song easy to listen :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So negative

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I sense great darkness within you Norwee

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You're either a Mafia or a compulsive Doctor who is actually a Serial Killer

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

that scalpel in your medical kit has taken many lives

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Spanish

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

uh oh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think I'm in trouble now >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

wait I have the perfect emoji for this

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

everyone starts in my pocket

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

this art is very good[how did he know I am mafia]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'd be shook

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I actually think Norwee might be scum here lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

His posting is devoid of the innocent jovial nature I've come to expect from him

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you voting me naked actually made me feel you were kind of scummy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I dunno I've never seen him open up a game a meanie poopie pants b4

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I actually can't remember if I've ever played with Scum Norwee

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you know off the top of your head Norwee?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

in ydra I trust

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you still lost homie

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Ydrasse can't scum slip

she is the queen of high level scum play

it is known

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

carry me queen

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

am i being chainsawed

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

maybe its your avatar

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i can't get used to this new one

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the hair color change is unacceptable

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh snap

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

norwee town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

who r we voting queen

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

thoughts.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Lady Chloe

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You feel very self conscious rn ngl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

You don't feel bored

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Um what

How does posting a bunch of times to yourself alleviate boredom?

lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Your posts feel like the posts of someone who is worried about being voted rather than someone who is happy to be here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the transition of your mood from before I voted you to after I voted you is somewhat jarring... -.-

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Why would I be annoyed with you?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm suspicious of you... I wouldn't be annoyed at you?

I mean if you get dealt a red role pm it's not like you actively decided hey I'm going to try to be evil today and murder Pooky lol.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

huh no

those r eyes of suspicion lol

why would I be angry O.o

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

What are you asking me to clarify?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I thought you asked me if I was angry with you and I said no...

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok do you actually have something you want me to clarify?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I feel bad about misreading her like 90% of the time so I'm just going to accept I can't read her

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think slaughter hour was the last one

don't you remember the tiff we had during d1?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

That is a state sekrit

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Good Night Milady !

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yuumi is precious

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

should I locktown Isis for bringing up Yuumi

I think I am obligated to atp

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Free lesson for you Chloe

If Isis brings up Yuumi she must be good

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the female anime girl in me says Datisi is the hero we need and he has already solved the game

but then I told her to stop talking I'm playing this game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am a bear sir

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

The first five words of the previous post are redundant

you r the best female anime girl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm not going to lie I liked the last song Shiki played for me when I was savagely murdered so I am probably never going to vote her [you can call me biased but that's just how my mind works]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cool, now i feel like pooky is scummy too

are y'all trying to make me hate this game

w i l d

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I feel too inflamed to respond to anything current.

Would someone join me for some tea and lemon cakes?

I would love to have some tea and lemon cakes

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if a mafiaoso queen is going to invite me for tea & lemon cakes I want to have good tea :3

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am always willing to sheep Datisi if he wants my vote!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you make a good point

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok george is scum

I trust Datisi

Dude knows George like the back of his hand

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm also not a fan of the sequence form pooky and i am slightly unnerved that he's sheeping me here like this so uh yeah game hard

what sequence

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I thought we all decided Lady Chloe and George Bailey were the two scum and we're just waiting to send them up on a rocket ship

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

by we all I just mean me really

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

or we could just skip the claiming part and hammer him

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

is there a claim coming anytime soon dude?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

George's vote is opportunistic.

why do you think GB voting you is opportunistic but you won't vote for him?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

rofl

so she votes

only after being called out

for not voting

not being proactive

its just george/chloe

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and her saying its too early is funny cuz we r less than 1 day to deadline so

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

What have you called me out on? Do tell. It's taken you 17 pages to figure that one out.

Your first 2 posts were fluffy

I naked voted you in response.

In response to my naked vote you began posting "content" in a way that is very artificial

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It feels like you knew what I was voting you for, recognized the problem with your posting, and decided to "fix" the issue with a very weird catchup where you posted a bunch to the thread but none of the thoughts were very useful or organized in a way that made sense.

It's like you re-opened the thread and began putting thoughts down on paper again.

The implication is that you weren't actually thinking the first time you read the thread - which would imply you didn't really have an interest in sorting/talking about what is going on.

Your further response to me also does not make sense.

Because you are aware of what I am scumreading you for - if you did not you would not change behavior drastically.

Your anger towards me feels faked, it doesn't make sense for town!you to be angry at me for being dissatisfied with your posting because you understand the reason why I don't like what you have posted.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Of course my posts were fluffy and I knew that so I engaged with the thread, but you seemed to believe I did it out of obligation from your vote when you had nothing to do with it.

Well you said "lovely" and then completely reoriented your thread approach right after my naked vote so it does feel like that you are doing it as a response because you realized how scummy you looked.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

How do you define artificial?

They feel like the posts of a scum who is posting what they think they should post as town rather than a town who is just posting her thoughts.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

No. I don't fake anger. Sorry.

ok you feel genuine anger towards me but it makes sense for scum!you to be angry so I don't really care.

I don't see why town!you would feel angry towards me if I'm being suspicious of you for an issue you yourself recognize as a problem with your posting.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

p sure he's talking about me being susp lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think the way you spammed posts into the thread was not really about immersing, interacting, solving, or sorting but rather to look busy.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

So I don't trust your approach to me as genuine because it is bad faith to the T.

I say you are mafia because I think you are mafia.

It is as simple as that.

I don't ask you to do X, Y or Z.

I don't ask you to jump through any hoops or answer any questions.

You can do whatever you want and I will observe your actions and say what I believe they imply about your alignment.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Fine. I understand why you may think that as coming from scum. That's not my issue.

I do not like your approach to me.

Well that's just how I play the game.

You didn't have any issue with my approach to you when I townread you correctly so I don't particularly think this is an issue on my end as much as it's on yours.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

sure what were the other points you wanted me to address?

you can just copy paste anything I missed

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

1. I didn't express a read on Ydra. I said I felt badly about scumreading her incorrectly and decided to just admit I can't read her and leave it at that.

2. I think George is mafia, I am voting for him because he is closer to dying than you are and I would like to kill a bad person today. I also think you are mafia. I don't really care what everyone believes about a George/Chloe scumteam. Either I'm right or I'm wrong. It could be that nobody believes me. That's fine. I am probably wrong.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Good night Chloe!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

GB homie

I'm ngl I just think if Chloe is mafia and you're town she would've hammered you already lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

actually maybe that's not true if she's like careful scum and she thinks your ass is doomed either way

I shouldn't make blanket assumptions like that

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am fine with going back to Chloe if you are getting cold feet homie

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you think chloe and george are bussing

I'm not sure how much more clear I could make it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how r u even close to flipping

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

agree that blitz timer with a bunch of inactive nonplayers is kind of feelsbad

either we already won or scum r just lurking to the win lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you are not imagining it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

isis, give me a tldr on why chloe is scum here so i know whether to sheep it or nah

pooky, does that make shiki scum

no it makes shiki uninterested in this game

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh I guess we are doing this huh

VOTE: Lady Chloe e-1 yada yada

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Shiki is lower key as scum, which is kind of a Gordian blade for such a nuanced player but if W is W.


Isis
Pooky
Norwee
Ydrasse
Holdenslot
George Bailey
shiki
Datisi
Lady Chloe

why is datisi so low for you =/

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

If I knew George were town as a fact as Mafia, I would've always hammered him here.

ok but George also knows this right?

so if George upon seeing his role pm as town, sees you not hammering him, doesn't George then decide you are not mafia?

but George has decided you are mafia and are voting for you.

and you see this, and you also think George is thinking this,

that should make you want to hammer George

But you don't....

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you get what I'm saying?

It's mad weird unless you're both mafia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This flew over my head.

The fact that George scumreads me isn't why I would consider hammering, it's how he approaches and develops that read.

If you are mafia and George is town, you would hammer him because you're in a shitty spot already and you might as well get the mis-elim when you can.

George believes in this too??

You did not hammer George.

Thus George should not think you are mafia or be voting for you.

However George is voting for you.

But you are not voting for George

Despite knowing all of the above.

Make you two mafia together.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i mean none of this is like certain

but its just whats dancing around my head

im crazy i know

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

George is behaving rationally by voting you

its you not voting him that has me very confused lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ydra who do you want to kill today

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you called georges vote on you oppurtunistic

but you didnt vote for him or push him

should i not find that suspicious?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I just realized you two joined exactly one day apart.

crazy.

Also like wtf r we doing I feel like we're even further away than we used to be >_>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

despite my gruff confidence I'm actually quite worried about leading a mislim on town and I actually feel like punting and just sheeping somebody who sounds like they know what they are doing.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think I have actually been having fun in this game from the very beginning

it hasn't been a wet, bubbly, exuberant kind of fun at all points though

I think this is the most fun you've been in a while.

You weren't really playing during Shea's mini and Baton Pass.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ydra why u do this to me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

mood

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Pooky, may we hug out our tension?

If you promise to nightkill me sure

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Yes I believe so

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

The way you approached SH felt very townie to me and I townbinned you quite early because you basically didn't give a fuck how you were perceived.

In this game it feels like you really do care about how you are perceived.

So the difference makes me scumread you.

I apologize for the inconvenience because I know I tend to be quite tunnelly and I rarely ever pull out of my tunnels. >_<

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

The apology is regardless of your alignment as I know I am quite a pain in the ass to deal with and it's probably quite unpleasant for you.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Was I that bad in Shea's mini?

You weren't really bad per se

You just weren't really around much and it wasn't the same.

It's nice to have you around now tho! :3

I do have some paranoid pings that it might be because you finally got that red role pm >.>

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

But I hate being scum

remember wedding game

hectic didn't even let me marry morning tweet

I don't think wedding game was a very traditional mafia game so the parallel doesn't really apply.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

good night isis!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i will policy norwee tommorrow

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

you are actively increasing the chance of no lim to try to flashelim someone who is not even here for dubious reasons after she said she is going to sleep and won't be here until after deadline passes so there is not even a chance to get a claim from her


absolutely ridiculous play.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am willing to flashkill norwee right here if there r the votes for it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im still willing to kill norwee because its not like scum him seeing the danger would decide to claim vt

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

And you were the one that talked about dubious play.

imagine if I did this while you were afk and not here and said you were going to be gone until deadline passed because you were sleeping.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

It's convenient how Pooky always talks about how he scumreads me when the thread is amenable for it.

I didn't say I scumread you

I said I wanted to policy you for your play

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

pooky, do you have thoughts on lady v enchant?

I haven't read much i just woke up

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

read enchant iso

think he's town

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

shiki's pronoun is she

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

read enchant iso

think he's town

please enlighten me

it's not that strong of a read

just from my experience with him

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Enchant/Chloe both don't interest me too much as wagons.
Am i supposed to send an open letter to Shiki's household asking for his permission to wagon him until time runs out.

you had 4 days to express suspicion of shiki/vote get a wagon there

you waited until after she was asleep and said she would be gone from thread until deadline to begin your "push" to "sort" her

that's just ridiculous regardless of your alignment and her alignment.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

what do you hard townread chloe for?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I literally said that.

say it again or quote it

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

r u just scum wking chloe

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: NorwegianBoy

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you not even know who you're defending

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Why would i make myself look bad as scum.
I'm not stupid.
I'm aware my defense of Shiki makes me look more suspicious. So why am i still doing it?

the point of WKing Chloe would be to make you look good after she flips town sir.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the harder you defend her the more towncred you get before you eventually give up and hammer her at deadline

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Unpopular opinion but i could have flashwagon Datisi.

never change enchant

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I am just looking at what you are doing.

There's no probability involved

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

um hammer who?

I don't even know what the VC is lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't think chloe is e-1

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I just voted for norwee and moved off of her

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Norwee.

You are pushing to kill shiki for being scum.

I skimmed your ISO and I don't see any

reason

provided for why shiki is scum OR why you want to kill her.

So I find your push at EOD1 deadline to be performative because I don't think you actually want to kill her

You just want to be on record as wanting to kill her.

I don't understand why you would do that as a town player.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok but you don't have good reasons to townread chloe and she is a claimed VT that people have interacted with.

and you don't have reasons to flip shiki that you can use to get 4 more votes.

so like how do you expect this to play out?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

hot take: pooky is now doing the same thing he is accusing norwee of xD or like, a similar thing, this is also increasing the odds we don't get a flip

no because he's actually here to have a conversation with me so I'm getting something out of it even if he doesn't die here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I'm trying to rally support on an wagon

big fucking lol

lolol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why is shiki scum no one’s said

that's why I don't think norwee actually wants to kill shiki

he doesn't even have a reason for why she's scum

he just doesn't townread her lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

how about george bailey

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm still willing to do george bailey

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Hey i'm not gonna be mad if people don't wanna listen.
What matters is that i tried to say my word.
If Chloe dies today and flips town then that's just how it be sometimes. People don't wanna listen to reason.

you literally didn't provide any reason to townread chloe

all you said was "gut feeling"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

norwee is infuriating me because he absolutely can be this ridiculous when he's town and its making me pull my hair out

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't think anyone would listen even if i listed reasons atm.

you literally had days of discussion when I was pushing chloe to provide reasons dude

wtf

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

norwee is infuriating me because he absolutely can be this ridiculous when he's town and its making me pull my hair out

i stg if this is norwee scum acting more and more absurd to refuge in audacity i am going to be absolutely merciless in the future

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

This could all go so well if Pooky didn't get so triggered by my play.

are you tmiing me town now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if norwee is scum he's just trolling us at deadline daring us to vote him while laughing at the computer screen

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im legit ok taking the risk of killing town pr norwee at this point rather than continue to get trolled by this performance artist

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

we have you ydra and enchant online

just need one more

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ok fine where do i vote

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think you're all seriously overreacting.

this is a weird thing to say when you know your own alignment

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i'm just telling my reads.

it feels like you are trying to troll us atp

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

where is ydrasse

is this just a game of conspiracy and micc is fucking trolling me

mood

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

VOTE: Lady Chloe

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

my body isn't ready

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if chloe flips red you guys should kill GBailey tomm

don't let Shiki/Norwee shit fight up the thread

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

nah

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

all of us put together couldn't understand even a tenth of Norwee's galaxy brain

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i trust no one. not even myself. i will vote anyone im a vote mercenary right now

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im basically an ic now cuz i was gonna elim norwee ^.^

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think it you r all not willing to accept me as ic


then just elim me?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i think it you r all not willing to accept me as ic


then just elim me?

i don't know if i like this post

i don't get how the second line follows from the first

i dont really think it makes sense to let me live to elo if you do not think i am inno

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am scarier than u

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

yes but i will not have to agonize over it ~!

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

who do you actually want to kill again

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

good talk

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

enchant who do you want to kill

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lets kill datisi then VOTE: datisi

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

do you think scum me pushes you here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cuz ur a pain in the ass to eliminate duh

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol are you just frozen scum here

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

ngl i wasnt even planning to push you I just wanted to reaction test enchant to see how serious he was but wtf was that reaction rofl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

your answers are getting worse not better

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i have issues with how townie you are in this game

but then again I have issues with how townie everyone is in this game

so maybe it is unfair of me to be aggroing you just because you happen to be online rn

but I feel like i would rather do something than do nothing and you kind of turned down my offer to do something so ~shrug~

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

and there are a few non-townreads on my slot floating around so i don't really buy the "wow would be so difficult" - especially considering you can see i'm lowkey lost this game and that you can use to push me

You can obvtown under pressure easily but not really when you're mafia

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I think town!you should know that scum!me doesn't push you at 7p unless we are close enough to deadline that you can't get off the ground

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

your answers are getting worse not better

likewise, bear

you can explain to me what is scummy about (1) being suspicious of a person pushing me when i know they're supposed to have a good read on me (2) i think(?) they've already expressed a townread on me (3) not responding within literal 2 minutes (4) calling you out on that bullshit

I wasn't even really suspecting you, I just wanted to do something rather than this game continue to drift with nothing going on while we r on blitz deadlines.

Your reaction to me pushing you is just not very good because instead of "wtf r u doing dude" you are more along the lines of "do you want me to push back or something"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i don't think scum!pooky is actually that scared of town!me, no.

I am not scared of anyone as scum.

I am however very lazy and I don't commit effort to win games that I can win without effort

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

cuz ur a pain in the ass to eliminate duh

you already have the 2/4 votes needed

if enchant's not scum with you, and i'm guessing he's not, that's 3 out of 4

and there are a few non-townreads on my slot floating around so i don't really buy the "wow would be so difficult" - especially considering you can see i'm lowkey lost this game and that you can use to push me

ok let's say in the world you are saying exists which is that town!you thinks scum!me is using enchant!town to try to kill town!you

why would I not just do the much easier thing which is use town!you to kill town!enchant instead?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

lol what

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

reaction testing enchant? what kinda reaction test is that, obviously enchant was gonna vote me, he doesn't give a shit about the game

you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

the actually stupid thing is that while typing this out, i remembered silent star and how you actually were suspicious of me there deeper into the game when i thought i was much more townie there than i am here, so maybe the second one isn't that unlikely and now i look dumb but w/e

have i ever even incorrectly townread you

and also why do you even think I townread you in this game

i literally townread 0 people in this game ya'all susp to me

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

if you go against enchant today, tomorrow you look bad and you have to face me in lylo, which is lowkey heaven help you

imagine thinking I would be worried about 1v1ing you on blitz timer when I just got out of a 2000+ post 1v1 that lasted 3 weeks

w i l d

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't understand why you think I would be scared of 1v1ing you at elo but happy to 1v1 you at 7p

feels kind of weird to me ngl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

towncred is a figment of your imagination

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I disagree i don't care about game thought

then read the game and actually give some opinions?

kind of a weird criticism when he's given more opinions than you ngl

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

at least he didn't reply to the easiest layup question in the world with "idk lole"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

"kill ____" is more of an opinion than 25,000 lines of nonsense that ends with "idk who to kill lole"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

at least he didn't reply to the easiest layup question in the world with "idk lole"

you asked why i want killed when my vote is already in play, that was the answer that question deserved

i don't even know who you're voting dude lol

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

oh lol

I didn't think your answer meant "lol r u trolling me stfu"

and not "I dunno who to kill"

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I don't understand this conversation

are you two even speaking English

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

why switch to shiki

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

becuz?

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

i am even more confused this game than I already was

-___-

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Shiki who do you want to kill?