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VOTE: skitter

Greetings gentlebeings

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Nice to know I'm not the only idiot here.

Logic says that you are. gut says otherwise.

Ninja-

AYYY LMAO

it’s going to be hard on marci

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Logic says that you are. gut says otherwise.

Gut says

what

who?

Don’t worry about it, I’m being snarky.

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Cabd is capitalized.

Let me get the spray bottle.

Ninja-
Can y’all shush

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Can you not abbreviate names either?

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T3 do you have a lot of experience with mastina?

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Yeah it’ll be 90% me

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Lmao.

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Good afternoon scumbucks

I am here to be 1/2 of this awesomesauce hydra.

I just want to let everyone know that my parents just tested positive for covid, but I'm negative (currently).

~M

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I don’t know how you missed the f key it’s nowhere near the b.

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marci seems very subdued. I wonder why.

She felt a little awkward but I know it’s tricky to break out of a typical posting style so I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt. It’s something to monitor though, yes.

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This is really dumb but I townread 76.

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Something rather unfortunate was found inside our role pm.

We have a posting restriction, and it is mean.

All of our posts must have correct capitalization. Each post must end in appropriate punctuation. We are not allowed to post run on sentences or sentence fragments.

Before I opened my pole pm, I thought that both cabd and ffery thought of me as a friend. Now I see that they both wish me harm.

They have granted us a simple reprieve, and they have allowed for the use of emojis.

I am considering making post using only emojis if I feel the need to comment on something while phone posting However, that is something to consider when that moment comes.

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This is really dumb but I townread 76.

same!

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Don’t worry, I won’t show them the error you made in this post. Your secrets safe with me.

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wasn't me??

Also the hydra noise from The Bombay, but how could I be mad at another fellow feline lover?!?!?!?!?

Also I have never played chess so it's white noise rn

~M

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What’s the long answer?

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yeah, I’ve seen what happens…

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So what you’re telling me is you clicked it the first time.

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Which reads in particular, mastina?

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For the record I like skitter so far besides her saying Mala is more town than me.

But that might just be arrogance talking.

I’m debating how I feel about jjh thinking there’s two scum and a third party? This feels like something I might want to revisit later.

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I mean ought i be townreading you thus far?

Head says no, heart says yes.

@jjh- it still feels like a weird thing to say? Like more often than not when a traitor gets brought up it is by the scumteam who knows they have one. Similar concept.

I’m weighing it, clearly, or I would have voted you.

Ninja-
Mmmmmm.

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What’s your take on this “don’t know the exact scum count” thing skitter?

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I need to read more in depth but I don’t like 228 at a glance while I’m wrapping up lunch

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Update on further reading I still don’t like it

VOTE: dwlee

I don’t like how they keep flip flopping with their LLD stance while their vote is still there- 228 feels very much like something you’d say to a townread you think is in a dumb tunnel… which doesn’t bode well cognitively with the whole… ya kno… vote on LLD?

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You realize if others disagreed with my analysis they would have commented, right?

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I’ll let others chime in, but I really shouldn’t have to go into this spiel about the importance of reading in between the lines.

I still like my vote.

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UNVOTE:

Didn’t realize they were that high?

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We speedlimmed scum in three hours in tarot upick…

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Going to be VLA for a couple days. My mom is Covid positive and I’m either Covid positive or I got the flu, but waiting on results. I just can’t stay awake for more than a couple minutes right now :/

Notty told me to read something, but I have to do it tmrw. It’s almost like I got wrecked by a train. The non stop fever for hours is killing me

~M

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I’m going to make the super obvious comment here that one side of the chess match is probably scum.

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I mean I suppose it could be an innocuous thing altogether? Idk. It feels very reminiscent of the isekai games that gave bonuses to either alignment and I don’t think it’s likely it’s two townies fighting over a bonus?

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95 was Mala and not a rickroll link btw

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I’m going to call the above town too.

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@cakez- you’re a towel

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As evidenced by the unvote, SM, I didn’t realize it was as high as it was. The vote counter error had him at E-1 (which I then checked after my unvote and skitter wasn’t on wagon, but still). Of course this is after the fact, but I didn’t realize the wagon was as big as it was?

I’m playing off tone- and I felt like it’s weird to use a chastising tone when pairing with a scumread on someone. He hasn’t really made it better, but I’m letting the game breathe for a bit to see what else develops. I’ve been getting too in the middle of things lately and my reads have suffered from it. So I’m sitting back.

Does this make sense? I can try to explain further when I get to my computer tonight if you need.

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It's also to say if you are town there is still time to back up and not do this crap

Does this not read as a chastise to you, SM? Basically I don’t understand why someone who is voting another person (because they scumread them, not for another reason it doesn’t seem) says something like this?

Like, when I’m reading this post I hear “Back off this push and I’ll back off”

Like that was the first post of the back and forth I saw after I finished eating and that was my first reaction to it.

What do you view it as? Why didn’t you bring it up earlier when I asked for more input :/

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Stil half dead, but just finished reading page 10.

I’m liking jjh’s comment re: discussion with Bombay.
Dwlee’s posts are irking me. I like LLD fire on dwlee tho

~M

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mastina i gotta say i disagree with you on the bombay's reads looking forced, and i'm not really into this whole vote-proxy thing either

Tbh this must be something new Mastina Is doing cuz I haven’t seen it before.
Unless this is Mastina trying to pocket LLD

-M

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I could have sworn I posted this but-

Mastina I don’t think Luke acting weird to a joke is a scumtell

Source: I’ve tried to push him for this very situation before lol

I’ll be back on a comp tonight after the gym (prob around 8ish EST)

But I’m currently thinking (Bombay, SM) town, (Skitter, T3, Suripoko (Purely based off the tiger drawing, I don’t wanna kill them today)) leaning town.

I’m hoping to sit and do a more full read tonight but we’ll see- I have to be at work at 8 tomorrow

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I have one concern about them tbh but I’m letting it develop first

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I forgot shiro, I like shiro too

I honestly find it weird Cakez isn’t scumreading me because Cakez ALWAYS scumreads me, and if he was taking that into consideration I feel like mixing up which hydra I’m in is kinda weird

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Ngl

Those who are legit placing blame on one person rather than everyone as a whole. This feels like Pokémon 2.0 where we did the quick lim and fucked our selves. I mean we all did bad with Dwlee, but he didn’t help himself either. His posting was just ugh.

As far as supriko I hate art hydras but to each their own. I hated chow because i couldn’t make heads or tails of alignment and he always sat to my bull pile

- M

I might flip over to my iPad I’m kinda feeling ok rn

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I think it's interesting the amount of people who have entirely glossed over that hammer.

VOTE: Kuripoko

ninja-
hi mala!

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I think it's interesting the amount of people who have entirely glossed over that hammer.

VOTE: Kuripoko

ninja-
hi mala!

We like were just talking about it, who do you think is ignoring it?

The people not voting them.

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Its an awful fucking hammer?

And this is coming from the genius behind the pokemon quickhammer.

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I don’t like chess nor do we have a box.

@Luke- change your background on one of the two accounts to signal you’re on the wrong account.

I’ll be here on lunch

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Are you saying you wouldn't have voted if you knew it was e-1?

Given the playerlist, I would have declared E-1 intent.

In my defense I have a 2/3 success rate and don’t do it that often

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I think Lady Lambdadelta is scum.

Which of you is this and why do you think that?

I’m pretty sure she’s actually sick ftr

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I’m of two minds about T3, because I do agree that scum likely was playing against town in the chess game. But whenever I go “uhhhh….” At T3 posting he flips town. Yes this is a hedge I’m aware and it’s why I qualified with it when I said “I’m of two minds”

I think it’s kinda bordering on what I can believe that town would be able to stop the town cop from firing?

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Regarding boxes, I want to know because it is beneficial to my role to know and by extension it is beneficial to town

Ooh, see, that's assuming I townread you. Which I don't, so run along now.

Are you saying you wouldn't have voted if you knew it was e-1?

Given the playerlist, I would have declared E-1 intent.

In my defense I have a 2/3 success rate and don’t do it that often

2/3 success rate at quickhammering unclaimed wagons D1 and getting scum flips or something else I'm not getting?

2/3 of quickhammering wagons without a claim. But the miss has made me kinda gunshy as he had a guilty <_<

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Ftr is for the record

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I don’t like chess nor do we have a box.

@Luke- change your background on one of the two accounts to signal you’re on the wrong account.

I’ll be here on lunch

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@LLD- is the parity cop confirmed in the hood?

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This is my concern too, frankly.

I don't think this all makes sense balancewise?

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You realize I’m on Suripoko, right?

My issue here is I a) don’t think this many investigatives makes sense with other stuff on the board, b) of the two, I think Bombay looks more Town (I feel like marci would be much more timid here? It could be the lukewarm effect but I think it’s too drastic a change too quick, c) I’ve literally just come out of two fucking games where a neighborhood managed to pocket people so I’m a little apprehensive about it all? Especially when given your phrasing it sounds like a PT spy? Why isn’t this just fucking tenet Cabd again?

Like, am I being dumb? I feel like it’s a well documented fact that despite my love of neighborhoods I also know you can’t trust them worth a damn. It’s not even that I’m questioning shiro, I just don’t get why this role isn’t “Cabd/ceph chooses who goes in the purple room part 2 electric boogaloo”

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notty.

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So trying to catch up right now.

So regardless of Ivan’s post rn I’m thinking that LLD is town.

So what we need to do is sort between {Bombay & Ivan}. Unless somehow town is stacked with majority of cop type roles, but that means scum needs to be massively stacked as well. Just something feels off regarding it.

LLD question what’s your read on Mastina? I know you can read her pretty well and I suck at it.

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^~M

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What would you move (aside from yourself presumably) on this reads list:

TOWN
That Idiot Ivan, Lady Lambdadelta, Shiro

jjh927, T3

SirCakez
StrangeMatter

Rogue
The Bombay

mastina

Suripoko
SCUM

Same line reads are functionally equivalent, line breaks differentiate between overall tiers

Bombay Rogue up
jjh, T3, Strange Matter down

Can you explain these reads? I especially want to know what pings you Rogue town here, there is something that is particularly scummy.

If you think we are scum I’d outright say it because here this feels bad. It’s like you won’t say it, but hints to it and I feel like you’re hoping no one notices this so you don’t have to explain yourself later on

-M

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Maybe I’m just really confused on what you’re trying to ask in 721. It more or less just looked like a statement to me?

What makes you think the Suri hydra is town. I’m really confused on how you are just ignoring that hammer all together or not even batting an eye at that slot

~M

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So you’re basically trying to answer a wuestion on why Notty’s post in regardless to the shitty fucking hammer that Suri did comes from town?

Simply the reason why I think Suri is scum is the following:

The hydra posts only pictures with almost no words. Which makes it NEARLY impossible to fucking read it. Secondly, it’s a good hook for scum to hide and lurk. That hammer was bad. Like very bad, no intent or time to claim. They are barely posting and when it is they are hiding under the stupid “imma keep posting pictures” that makes no sense.

I hated Pokémon chow for that reason because I couldn’t read the damn slot which made it harder in the end up and was a free miselm when we could have used the elim to get scum.

You do realize that notty wasn’t pointing out just you in ungoring the hammer. He meant the Game as a whole.

Idk how is being the 3rd vote on Suri is scum posting. We are one in plurality and the wagon obv didn’t take off

-M

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Sm notty is going to address you eventually. I send him a message asking what bug crawled up your ass and took a dive.

I’m in zero mood for crappy pushes.

-M

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No you aren’t really easy to read, but you are when you are passionate about something and I saw that passion with Dwlee. So I was townreading you for that push prior to the Ivan claim etc

-M

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Sorry if that was rude.
I’m a bitch normally and Covid is making me worse because I just don’t feel well and I hate pettiness.

It’s just I didn’t understand and it’s making me feel like utter crap

-M

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My concern was marci was fading some. It has since been put to rest.

I’ll be here on lunch tomorrow; got told last minute I have an hour commute in the AM so early bed

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Essentially, Bombay, I’m at this-

I think LLDs behavior here matches very closely with her behavior in MtDew when she was confirmed town. I’m fine calling her town for now, revisit if it’s MELO and she’s not dead.
I think you guys are town, I think we’re syncing pretty significantly especially lately wrt setup and I think marci would have been much less present as scum? I also don’t think she’d pick a fight with LLD as scum.
I thought shiro seemed town yesterday.
T3 gives me a headache.
I think SM is misguided town, who doesn’t have full context.
Idk if jjh narrates the chess game like that as scum?

Ivan makes sense to me as a PT spy. Especially given my read on you guys and your claim plus info we know, it just doesn’t seem likely that there’s a parity cop, who also creates a neighborhood with multiple other people to become masons?
Cakez NEVER townreads me. He constantly thinks he’s caught me as scum. I’m debating if this is actual self awareness or scum who knows I’m town, because this isn’t my best showing activity wise
Mastina being a nonentity concerns me.
Pooky hydra is probably scum for that hammer. I literally just was scum with Pooky where he quickhammered a day one elim like that, and have seen the bear wiggle out of way too many ducking elims lately.

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Why are they town?

I can’t use my typical tell wrt antitown antics on a player I know who subverts it.

What are you seeing I’m missing?

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If 1024 is some shit about how he’s solving in the hood I swear to god I’m nuking that shit from existence.

I’m not playing this “so and so is so town in the hood” game.

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Yeah, I’ve admittedly slacked a bit and probably am getting more slack than I deserve.

I also feel like marci not being able to read me is weird given this is our fourth game together. Admittedly I’m not as aggressive as I am typically here, so that might be part of it? But dunno.

I’ve inherited the mods soft spot for town siding survivors, so no hankering for jjh atm.

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Unless I missed it I’d like SMS thoughts on us with more context. I understand their POV about the wagon WRT our vote, however I’m curious how it changed with more time. I have subconsciously attributed part of their push to us being less present than I was in Towelie, but I think that’s probably shortsighted.

As more claims are on the board and no one claiming involvement in the chess game, my T3 read is dropping. Originally I took his antics around it as misguided town but it just feels weird particularly with nothing on the board as against Dwlee?

Hopefully thsi is coherent, family movie night tonight so I’m multitasking

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@SM, because I have seen Pooky literally try to die after a hammer like that and almost not die. He got wiggle room (admittedly through the structure of the day), and that’s where they strive.

Also I’m also league adjacent.

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I’m cool with either of the leading wagons going. I am open to hearing about cakeboy.

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I’m around. My preferred lim is going through, so yeah.

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We’re arcane.

We had a choice pregame of Piltover or Zaun. Piltover made us an inventor with an activatable commute and PGO.

But fuck Piltover.

We are a doctor who delays death a la the bleed out mechanic. Aka, the “alternative kill” that Shiro can stop. My guess is scum have a strongman and our combo can beat out the strongman to guarantee results. This is part of why I was so skeptical of Ivan once all the claims were out there, because with me around it already felt busted as fuck.

I didn’t mind the watcher claim as o it role seems like a decent workaround to the busted combination.

So yeah.

We targeted Bombay N1, because they seemed solidly Town. I was basically in the same boat as they were re protective decisions N1, after day one I kinda had squick feels about LLD.

Last night I tried to protect LLD.

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Do you want the mech or the flavor or both

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This is part of why I was so skeptical of Ivan once all the claims were out there, because with me around it already felt busted as fuck.

Was? What are your current reads after yesterday?

I mean, I told y’all so about suripoko

I’m still up in the air about you. I’m less concerned with the claim change, but meh

To be entirely honest I didn’t think about this game much over the night phase. I did my job and killed the obvscum, I figured we were about due for a massclaim that would have shaken everything up anyways so better to not get myself down a rabbit hole prior

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@ivan- the unlimited to one shot retraction. I’m still not sold on you town, but I could see it more with you as one shot

@luke- nice hydra

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I mean that’s cool and all I’m just walking you through my trajectory from yesterday, but go off?

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Once the day ends, my role targets two players to neighborize in one neighborhood. They get immediate access to post. I'm informed of who's been chosen, and then I decide if I want to use any of my powers. Yes, powers, plural. All are one-shot. Once I submit an action or declare I'm taking no action, I gain viewing access to the PT. I can post from then on if I choose, but if I've chosen to take an action, that action is blocked if I post before night ends/mods clear me. Neighborhood dissolves when the following day phase ends and the process repeats.

Key info there is that my parity cop is one-shot and I have no control over who gets targeted for my neighborhoods. Given info is stronger early game and both targeted players were on a town wagon flip, I opted to use the parity cop shot N1. Hence not being concerned about being blocked in the future. That isn't my only one-shot power, but it's definitely my best one.

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I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SM RBING US MAKES US GUILTY

MAYBE THRE IS ANOTHER ROLE IN PLAY THAT MADE THE KILL MISS

OR MAYBE SCUM TARGETTED BOMBAY (lol)

OR MAYBE JJ LEAVING THE GAME BLOCKED THE KILL

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I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SM RBING US MAKES US GUILTY

MAYBE THRE IS ANOTHER ROLE IN PLAY THAT MADE THE KILL MISS

OR MAYBE SCUM TARGETTED BOMBAY (lol)

OR MAYBE JJ LEAVING THE GAME BLOCKED THE KILL

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I DONT UNDERSTAND HOW SM RBING US MAKES US GUILTY

MAYBE THRE IS ANOTHER ROLE IN PLAY THAT MADE THE KILL MISS

OR MAYBE SCUM TARGETTED BOMBAY (lol)

OR MAYBE JJ LEAVING THE GAME BLOCKED THE KILL

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Well work internet knows all the value of my anger

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Hi friends I haven’t read shit but I’m here

Taking a hiatus after this game but letsgo!

What have I missed

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Luke hve you really not been able to read Ivan’s tone and tell who it is lmao I’ve had them pegged since their response to my Rick rolling

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I dont like using a carte I prefer a basket so I don’t buy too many things

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Wait a minute am I thinking you’re the wrong person

Fuck is it really my second guess?

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Anyways if you take survey of my recent games (sans a newbie where I was more try hard bc good example) shows I’ve been tending towards the back seat except when I need to try hard, and a quick look at KTT iso in Pokémon shows the same for Mala

So we’re basically both riding in the back seat

But I digress, point being is disappearance is NAI

I’d be willing to hear you out on cakeboy and mastina!

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Would you like to town case Cakez then Ivan?

It feels weird for you to be trying to save him while also giving the appearance that you find him scummy.

I do owe this a response. No, I don't have a towncase on Cakez. I'm frustrated because no one here or in my neighborhood is explaining what's town about Rogue and how they're coming from anywhere but a failed gambit place today. My top guess for a scum team right now is Cakez-Rogue, with mastina as the likely scum if one of those is wrong. I just don't enjoy being ignored.

And Rogue, if you know who I am, why is Mala not excited to get in here and change my mind on you?

Now I really am stepping back because I'm in a bad headspace to continue posting, and it probably is healthier for the game thread for other people to interact anyways.

Well tbh i didn’t know it was you until notty told me yesterday. I mean now it makes sense. As for the “botched” claim. I think you and I both know my scum game better than that. Town!mne gives zero shit about presentation of words and i get nit picked often, but scum!me should know better than that and check before i post and i would hopefully not be that dumb to make a huge mistake like that

~m

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Explain what I was thinking when I botched the claim. You are calling me scum because I interchanged the “blocked” instead of “delay”. Unless I’m missing something here.

As for my reads I’m pretty much an open book.

I think LLD, you & shiro are most likely town. Mastina was “eh for me” up until she was able to send a message to LLD with shiro’ s loytality which makes her most likely town.
T3 weird acting around regarding Dwlee bothers the shit out of me. So I’m kinda leaning scum towards that slot.
SM i feel like is scum again for ~reasons~.
I think Bombay is leaning town.
SirCakez is leaning null towards scum because his posts haven’t swayed me.

One of my town reads obv has to be wrong somewhere because I got toooo many townreads

~M

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You have three scum reads. Why do you think you have too many?

IDK it’s paranoia I just feel like something is wrong somewhere.

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Why do you think I'm town, Mala?

Because of the events that happened during N1. I think your claim is rea & I like how you used it and tried to avoid Bombay forcing ur hand

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I can hammer unless u want me to let SM do it because of ~”role”~

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Well well. I got poisoned and I think we’re in a potential type of ELO. Stuck on a phone but I have been officially struck by the poison.

Scum has been only poisoning at this point.

Idk how you got poisoned when we got poisoned.

However, I did target you for the doc protection.

Anyways bed time for me. Just got off work and shoveled my car into the driveway and work again later tonight

Audios

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