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[Enchant]

Outing preference is useless as mafia will simple tell they submitted to be town.

My mafia picks:
Informed Goon
Macho 1-Shot Strongman
Rolecop

[Enchant]

Anyone claiming having preference in Mafia is either mafia trickering (because there need to be 4+ people wanting to be mafia so you can submit being mafia and not getting it), or townie trolling shit out of this game.


I prefered mafia btw.

[Enchant]

Let's kill people who love playing as mafia and hardtown those who love playing as town, SIMPLE.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Taly

[Enchant]

Anyone claiming having preference in Mafia is either mafia trickering (because there need to be 4+ people wanting to be mafia so you can submit being mafia and not getting it), or townie trolling shit out of this game.


I prefered mafia btw.

Let's kill people who love playing as mafia and hardtown those who love playing as town, SIMPLE.

VOTE: Taly

Interesting line-up of posts, you claim to have preferred mafia, rally to vote anyone who has not voiced townread preference, and

vote the next person that did not give a town preference.

Is the bolded the reason behind your vote or not?

What is right answer?

Actually Yes.

[Enchant]

Everyone submitting so fucked mafia roles, i think even my town picks can't fight them in absurdity.

[Enchant]

I think Cheeky just trolling mastina and it's hilarious.

[Enchant]

Oh, and since we're doing this, I submitted a

town preference

.

My preferred roles were: Town Cop, Town Tracker, Mafia Roleblocker.

You so boring.

Also why you revealed that.

[Enchant]

Should hammered townies reveal their town picks?

[Enchant]

Uh what

[Enchant]

Yeah, i was serious.

I love shoting ppls.

[Enchant]

Imo that's reason why submitting alignments are bad.

Mastina is locktown simple because there's someone else submitted to be maf, and she is not looking liking playing as maf. That's it.

[Enchant]

The case is mastina is usually pretty thourough and accurate with mechanical stuff, yet is using pretty blatant assumptions rather than mechanics to create a POE that I don't think is accurate. It has obviously been thought about at length but yet is so flimsy and is being presented at concrete. That is why I believe it's likely from scum as an attempt to easily put townies up for lim and look townie

Ok

Where is your poe

[Enchant]

Damn Mastina got all three scum slots.

[Enchant]

I actually agree with this statement.

Do you think Mastina made scum preference?

[Enchant]

I think Mastina clearly person who will submit Town preference or press "No preference". Both of these quarantee she is not mafia in this game OR i am lying.

Therefory if you doubt Mastina alignment, you should redirect accusation in my face.

[Enchant]

quarantee she is not mafia in this game

No such thing as a guarantee.

If you read how alignments roll in this game, it's quarantee.

[Enchant]

Wut

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

[Enchant]

House in a nutshell:
1. Lurk
2. Arrive
3. WOWGAMESTALINGLETSFLIPSOMEONE
4. No one active!
5. Doesn't try to raise activeness/ask questions to actually shake game.
6. That's House

[Enchant]

I believe

mastina's

claim 16, or rather, think that it is optimal to assume it's true for D1 as it has been uncountered.

You serious...

[Enchant]

Why i am not in this block

[Enchant]

Awwwwww

[Enchant]

Enchant have you got any reads yet bruv?

Yes, i think Taly or Titus is good kill potentially. More dislike Titus though.

Also, most likely everyone townread me because mastina said so, we see how long it lasts.

[Enchant]

Enchant have you got any reads yet bruv?

Yes, i think Taly or Titus is good kill potentially. More dislike Titus though.

Also, most likely everyone townread me because mastina said so, we see how long it lasts.

Lol?

While i talk profanity almost half of times, i am completly serious.

Taly i think is person who making "Heylook i am scumhunting post per player", but genuine believing is d1 mason claim is eeeeh. Like, it's too serious. It's also strange, considering even my mind about game changes pretty fast. So now, you will post per player everytime it happens? Pssh.

Titus is good kill regardless of alignment because it's titus, even now manipulating and putting words in my mouth. I am not sure how i supposed to read that.

[Enchant]

Voting lurkers for pressure is so far useless, because they know it's just for pressure.

We need murderkill lurkers on spot for effect.

[Enchant]

Hello Dwlee99

[Enchant]

I dunno what you about, i didn't even notice Flea vote.

Well i "NOTICED" but i pretended i didn't lol.

Yeah...

[Enchant]

Dwlee99 feeling self dirty after receiving PM, kinda sus

[Enchant]

Actually predicting Meg are town.

Or well, wanting get killed on purpose as bus.

[Enchant]

What if team is actually Titus+Taly+House lol.

Like hm.

I doing it for points so when game ends and it actually happened to be this team, i could say "HA I KNEW IT FROM START".

[Enchant]

Enchant's post read as wanting to do anything but vote Meg. Not sure if ghis is a denial play or a scum ine.

Well yes, i don't want vote Mag

[Enchant]

Enchant's post read as wanting to do anything but vote Meg. Not sure if ghis is a denial play or a scum ine.

Well yes, i don't want vote Mag

It feels like you made your decision and then are looking to justify it.

There's no reason to TR Meg and the

wagon is pure

. It makes no sense.

lold

[Enchant]

Eh. What you mean numerically.

Yes, some townies jumping. Sheep sense. Happens.

[Enchant]

Enchant are you waiting around to quickhammer? I know I don't have a vote right now either, but this seems odd for you. I'm probably just going to vote Meg, but I want a claim. So if you're planning on an lol, I'm going to ask Meg to claim now.

I am more accurate with quickhammers after Gamma incident, and i don't want to hammer Meg.

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

I believe her. It explains the indifference.

She does remind me of Triplicate.

VOTE: House

Just no.

[Enchant]

Enchant's post read as wanting to do anything but vote Meg. Not sure if ghis is a denial play or a scum ine.

Well yes, i don't want vote Mag

UNVOTE:

I believe her. It explains the indifference.

She does remind me of Triplicate.

VOTE: House

Just no.

This is pretty much the opposite reaction you should be having to unvotes on a wagon you claim not to support.

VOTE: Enchant

Fuck me beliving you pushed this wagon for VT claim and then immediatly unvoted "Well i believe this i quess it's town let's wagon someone else".

What your motivation for even voting, just force claim?

[Enchant]

What the fuck you mean by role madness.

[Enchant]

large number of prs to compensate for the large chance of many scum prs

Okay, and how this is case here?

Only thing garanted is 2 VTs.

[Enchant]

At Minimum*

[Enchant]

Design Process

Sample Roles

: Below are an example role for a

Vanilla Townie

and a

Mafia Goon

.

At least 2 players are a Vanilla Townie. 1 or more players might be a Mafia Goon.

[Enchant]

I am not sure how many, but this reaction is unrealistic at all.

While it's possible moderator put up 8 MOTHERFUCKING PRs, i only can wonder how. I bet on atleast half of town being VT.

[Enchant]

Also fuck my solve, you actually right, mafia not so brawe to jump like that, pretty lol from me i quess.

[Enchant]

I am about Tyle+House+Titus btw, House still need to be tortured.

[Enchant]

After you did claim role, this turned moot.

[Enchant]

After you did claim role, this turned moot.

I disagree(if this is even to me)

You can claim a role and and still not indicate your pre game preference. Thats why I asked, it's not consistent and it bothers me.

Vanilla preference means you will roll Vanilla Townie for sure/Mafia Goon in most cases.

It doesh't give any intel for mafia and safe to claim along with role.

[Enchant]

ANYONE UP TO MASSCLAIM D1 ONLY WINNING STRATEGY STRAT?

[Enchant]

Bruh

Bruh

Just bruh

[Enchant]

Why i am again regreting not hammering.

[Enchant]

Stupid town.

[Enchant]

Also while this is "UPick", mod chooses PRs, so game will be balanced.


UPICKGAMEDOESH'TMEANTHERE'SFUCKINGPRSEVERYWHERE. Mod as well could add one or two and left mafia with just one PR as well.

It's basically "OH HEY MEG YOU ARE SUS
1. YOU CLAIMED VT WOW SO FITTING YOUR PLAYSTYLE I BELIEVE THAT!
2. WOW YOU CLAIMED PR WELL I QUESS YOU CAN BE KEPT ALIVE FOR A WHILE!

Literally it's so fucking lame unbelieving excuse even i can do better.

No just fuck, it's actually hilarious, can't believe you doing this. You probably can't see but every voice in my head laughs.

Also yes i expected it from start. Magician.

[Enchant]

What, no more posts for you.

[Enchant]

Also while this is "UPick", mod chooses PRs, so game will be balanced.


UPICKGAMEDOESH'TMEANTHERE'SFUCKINGPRSEVERYWHERE. Mod as well could add one or two and left mafia with just one PR as well.

It's basically "OH HEY MEG YOU ARE SUS
1. YOU CLAIMED VT WOW SO FITTING YOUR PLAYSTYLE I BELIEVE THAT!
2. WOW YOU CLAIMED PR WELL I QUESS YOU CAN BE KEPT ALIVE FOR A WHILE!

Literally it's so fucking lame unbelieving excuse even i can do better.

No just fuck, it's actually hilarious, can't believe you doing this. You probably can't see but every voice in my head laughs.

Also yes i expected it from start. Magician.

huh? Also every voice here thinks you're scum, A, M, S and D. Even N and N doesn't play mafia actively.

Mafia NK this

[Enchant]

Also yes i expected it from start. Magician.

I want this expanding on, it's the only reason G hasn't declared yet lol

I am almost always d1 elim.

[Enchant]

Okay

VOTE: Meg

[Enchant]

Well, you have time before night ends.

[Enchant]

CheekyTeeky has been found dead. She was a

Town Hider

CheekyTeeky

You are a

Town Hider

Each day you may talk in the game thread and vote on who to eliminate.

Each night you may attempt to visit a player to hide behind them. You cannot be targeted by killing actions. If the player you hide behind is killed by a night action, you will also die.

You win when all threats to the town are dead, and at least 1 town aligned player is alive.

The game thread is here, please confirm your role and alignment via pm.

How

[Enchant]

Like... Where is second NK.

[Enchant]

Okay i investigated, there's exactly two ways.
1. Cheeky did nothing. I find it's impossible. (well not that kind of Impossible where is Total Impossible i just don't believe in that)
2. Roleblocked.

So mafia have roleblocker, mafia used roleblocker WITH NK, which is fucking strange.


So my bet on Informed+Roleblocker mafia PRs.

[Enchant]

Hider only can die when visiting someone who dies from NK.

[Enchant]

No, just used this wording.

[Enchant]

Just notice how house believed Meg is town, but still let them die lol.

[Enchant]

Yes.

[Enchant]

House can't even explain why he did vote and instead trying to throw dirt.

Yeah confirmed mafia, have fun.

[Enchant]

Ok mafia.

[Enchant]

If the player you hide behind is killed by a night action, you will also die.

Protection saves both, because protected character is not actually dying.

[Enchant]

Your trying to appear not-informed denied.

[Enchant]

If there was a redirector, would the target nominally stay the same but deflect onto the hider?

Redirecter not normal.

[Enchant]

We voting House or Me today (if that's me, then House tomorrow).

That's all.

[Enchant]

What mech clear

[Enchant]

I'd rather us work together and I mindmelded Scoripous very hard yesterday.

Just because Cheeky was town doesn't mean they read Enchant correctly.

Me too, so here's where I'm at...

- If I recall correctly, Strongman also bypasses Hider's inherent protection.

-Even if you're right and Enchant is scum, they're low priority for me. Why? 3 reasons...

1) Enchant never lives in Elo
2) Cheeky was Enchant's beard. That scum killed her anyway means she was a bigger threat than a benefit. (This is what concerns me about Taly)
3) If the dead is ignored when they flip, town never listens to them later.

- What's your take on zefiend?

No, Strongman can't beat Hider.

Already asked.


We have roleblocker. It's 100%

[Enchant]

No, Strongman can't beat Hider.

Already asked.

I guess the wiki lies, then.

A Mafia or Serial Killer aligned Strongman is considered Normal on mafiascum.net. A Strongman cannot be stopped from performing a kill, unless their target has commuted.

Hider prevents killers from targeting self, therefory commuting.

[Enchant]

I said that before Meg voted me.

[Enchant]

GG, you letting mafia just speedrun limbaits and blindly following them.

[Enchant]

Wait a minute wtf am I on

Enchant

why did you hammer

While i tried deflect wagon, Meg just abused it to throw me under bus, without any trying to kill real maf (WHO IS HOUSE).

I disliked that and decided it's not worth dying on Meg place, ty.

[Enchant]

*cast fireball

[Enchant]

I ceasing caring.

If you want to talk with me, please @Enchant

Cya.

[Enchant]

House/Enchant

I think your 1v1 is manufactured in some form by scum. IE, scum is pushing one or both of you regardless of your alignments.

Thoughts?

Yes, it's manufactured by red PM in House.

Idk why you have this mind, do you even know why we voting each other

[Enchant]

Titus looks obsessed with Tutus

[Enchant]

Putting horses in beds are mafia thing

[Enchant]

I am not actually doing anything.

I existing.

Well if existing is still physical activity, then...

[Enchant]

Stop proving to me i am town, i kinda already have this intelligence.

Damn last word was hard.

Like, prove that you are. Because right now i don't think so

[Enchant]

Stop proving to me i am town, i kinda already have this intelligence.

Damn last word was hard.

Like, prove that you are. Because right now i don't think so

Who says I have any interest in proving anything to you?

I'm trying to drain the wagon on you so that we can eliminate actual scum.

That means you're the last person I need to convince of anything.

EBWOP[/quote]

if you believe i am town, you need also to persuade me to follow you, otherwise it's already -1 in votes.

Yes, it's part of game where you need to persuade half of circus to vote other half while third half lurking and throwing bananas at each other, what did you expect

[Enchant]

Enchant, who is scum with me?

Maybe I'll help you bus my teammates in order to stay alive.

Probably Scorpio.

Also bussing is bad, teammates will hate you, town love doesn't worth it (we kinda will kill you anyway)

[Enchant]

Idk why even explain, mafia kills are mostly collective choice.

There's other reason i called them.

[Enchant]

Imagine not solving game in first hour.

Scorpio, who is mafia?

[Enchant]

I have insomnia.

I noticed it when i noticed i writed whole bunch of stuff which could be considered as jester claim.

Sleeping. Trying to.

[Enchant]

Enchant, who is scum with me?

Maybe I'll help you bus my teammates in order to stay alive.

Probably Scorpio.

Also bussing is bad, teammates will hate you, town love doesn't worth it (we kinda will kill you anyway)

Please I'm all ears.. you're already a confirmed liar...

I need something to read when I get home from work anyway..

What i lied about?

Wtf i am awake

[Enchant]

What i lied about?

You said, and I quote:

i am lying

Don't bother looking at the context of that post. That's completely irrelevant. You said those words!

I lied in this post.

[Enchant]

I lied about lying because i didn't lied.

Therefory i lied.

[Enchant]

Can i get answer from Scorpio and finally claim i will sleep but still peeking here?

[Enchant]

This would tell scum (1) that there's a protective role and (2) that the protective role targeted person X

It doesh't make House more townie or more mafia (atleast this exact argument), because mafia already knows what happened fully. They of course can and will try to pass it as notinformed, but most likely they simple trying to not talk about this at all, to not give hints and attention.

Like why scumread someone for giving information to mafia, because if they are mafia they kinda already know and thus every other mafia member will know as well. There's no benifit in telling.


Also wtf there's literally... Well ok, two outcomes, first is where Cheeky roleblocked and second where she visited Ascetic. We can't do anything with that.

[Enchant]

This would tell scum (1) that there's a protective role and (2) that the protective role targeted person X

It doesh't make House more townie or more mafia (atleast this exact argument), because mafia already knows what happened fully. They of course can and will try to pass it as notinformed, but most likely they simple trying to not talk about this at all, to not give hints and attention.

Like why scumread someone for giving information to mafia, because if they are mafia they kinda already know and thus every other mafia member will know as well. There's no benifit in telling.


Also wtf there's literally... Well ok, two outcomes, first is where Cheeky roleblocked and second where she visited Ascetic. We can't do anything with that.

This is an interesting post. How do you know mafia would know exactly what happened? Granted this is my first Upick, but wouldn’t simple logic dictate that someone would have a role to counter information?

I do not like this post at all.

You disliking everything i say and do.
Because you are mafia.
So you can as well dislike everyone.
No one cares.

So these posts are useless, push me harder and more reasonable or get lost.

[Enchant]

This would tell scum (1) that there's a protective role and (2) that the protective role targeted person X

It doesh't make House more townie or more mafia (atleast this exact argument), because mafia already knows what happened fully. They of course can and will try to pass it as notinformed, but most likely they simple trying to not talk about this at all, to not give hints and attention.

Like why scumread someone for giving information to mafia, because if they are mafia they kinda already know and thus every other mafia member will know as well. There's no benifit in telling.


Also wtf there's literally... Well ok, two outcomes, first is where Cheeky roleblocked and second where she visited Ascetic. We can't do anything with that.

This is an interesting post. How do you know mafia would know exactly what happened? Granted this is my first Upick, but wouldn’t simple logic dictate that someone would have a role to counter information?

I do not like this post at all.

You disliking everything i say and do.
Because you are mafia.
So you can as well dislike everyone.
No one cares.

So these posts are useless, push me harder and more reasonable or get lost.

Do I get an answer to the question with the sauce?

No, because you didn't answer my question about where i lying.

[Enchant]

If you can't answer question and instead direct me on reading your iso and searching (which i fairly didn't found), then why i need to bother teaching you basic competency in game?

Right anwer: I don't need tho.

[Enchant]

This would tell scum (1) that there's a protective role and (2) that the protective role targeted person X

It doesh't make House more townie or more mafia (atleast this exact argument), because mafia already knows what happened fully. They of course can and will try to pass it as notinformed, but most likely they simple trying to not talk about this at all, to not give hints and attention.

Like why scumread someone for giving information to mafia, because if they are mafia they kinda already know and thus every other mafia member will know as well. There's no benifit in telling.


Also wtf there's literally... Well ok, two outcomes, first is where Cheeky roleblocked and second where she visited Ascetic. We can't do anything with that.

You're wrong on both counts.

Mafia don't necessarily have all information.

Those are not the only two possible outcomes.

Okay.

Tell me others?

[Enchant]

If you can't answer question and instead direct me on reading your iso and searching (which i fairly didn't found), then why i need to bother teaching you basic competency in game?

Right anwer: I don't need tho.

For like the 17th F’n time…

You said you were not going to hammer, and then you did..

Lie…

Don’t ask me again. And don’t use it as an excuse to ignore questions.

I don't consider this lie, but okay. Only once.


When Cheeky flipped i searched how it was possible for her to die like that.

I excluded all impossible ways (it's you all asking meme questions like WILL HIDER DIE IF TARGET PROTECTED) and all other, while it's already obvious.


Atleast i found only these two possible ways.

First: Roleblocker. Why exactly roleblocker?
Because Jailkeeper, Alien and Rolestopper would save.

Of course it's possible shit like strongman attacked target of Jailkeeper/Alien/Something, but i find chance of this so small, I don't believe it's case.

Second one is, well, visiting of Ascetic. There was mafia ascetic suggests so not impossible.


Now why i think mafia informed about.
They of course know who they NK. There's NO POSSIBLE WAY where Hider dies out of bat and his target survive. None.
So if they targeted Cheeky (and they targeted Cheeky), they know something prevented her from acting.

Either this is their Roleblocker or Ours. Regardless, they know there's one.

With Ascetic is hard case, but chances someone submitted Ascetic Town is fairly low, but there's mafia ascetic picks. Therefore yeah.

Now important: Nothing what House said added in this intel for mafia. They already know that, maybe even more accurate than us.

So there's no reason chicking out and fear revealing important info, but fairly, there's also no reason to discuss it at all. So i suggesting stop.


You satisfied?

[Enchant]

I hadn't considered the possibility Taly might be Ascetic. Nice catch.

Eh, I doubt Taly's ascetic, tho that does remind me of yet another possibility;

Rolestopper and Alien both would cause a hider targeting their target to fail.

So failure conditions are:
Target is Ascetic;
Target is Commuter;
Direct-roleblock of CheekyTeeky;
Direct-jailkeep of CheekyTeeky;
Direct-Alien of CheekyTeeky;
Rolestopper rolestopping hide target;
Alien rolestopping hide target.

But I agree that ultimately, while it's not unimportant (it does have implications), speculating on D2 is not productive and is arguably anti-town.

I already evaluated about jailkeeps and such, but ok i quess.

[Enchant]

Spoiler:

[Enchant]

Oh shit, jailkeep protects its target too?

Who submitted Jailkeeper?

I kinda didn't.

[Enchant]

There's someone made very unwise scumclaim but now I can't find this post.

[Enchant]

This entire thing sucks..

And here is why:

The read list is VERY hedgy. There is absolute zero commitment to anything except litterally the safest read that Taly is town. “Could be”’s should not be in a read list. Possibly in a thought processing post maybe even on Poe but could be should not be a list that is supposed to be definitive.

And don’t say it isn’t now, you posted it as YOUR reads so I assume the list to be definitive. I really love the subtle ATe by calling yourself bad town, that part is so blatantly obvious it’s almost cringeworthy.. ick..

I could be scum but not with House.. stop it..

And then you lay on the audacity by saying this list is partially generated by some nonsense House wrote. Not even commenting on what he said. It’s irrelevant. But you want to insult our intelligence and say your entire list was made possible by the contribution of one post? The whole game? Because of House..That you thought was town. Until he asked that question..

So am I looking at a Town House(heh) influenced read list or a Scum House influenced read list.
Neither, because it’s fake..

And then you use it to transition into a question TO house..

Horrible lying and horrible execution..

VOTE: Zefiend

Oh it's Scorpios.

Not even surprised.

[Enchant]

Let's play a game!

Give a townread or get voted.

I’ll go first.. me..

And I can prove it..

You can't prove an opinion.

Opinions that can be proven aren't opinions.

I can prove it..

Do it.

Spoiler:

[Enchant]

Better than 1498.

Not worth pestering you too prove it, as any potential push would be futile one you did, and you're basically building a case against yourself if you can't.

I feel insulted.

[Enchant]

7+ days passed and no one decapitated, wtf stale game.

VOTE: Scorpious

[Enchant]

... How many roleblockers are here wtf

[Enchant]

Alive Jailkeeper, Scorpious claims roleblock, also Hider possible died because of one.

3 roleblockers leld.

[Enchant]

Well, unless Ascetics.

[Enchant]

Like i think something fake here or i am gradually wrong with mafia having RB.

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

[Enchant]

7+ days passed and no one decapitated, wtf stale game.

VOTE: Scorpious

I agree, watching house feed his ego is getting old.

I’m a 1-shot Neapolitan and I was blocked last night looking at Zefiend..

Did message say who roleblocked you? Jailkeeper or etc?

[Enchant]

Okay, who submitted 1-Shot Neopolitan as well?

[Enchant]

VOTE: Flea

[Enchant]

It's actually funny how i want kill Scorpios regardless of claim, but know no one will follow.

Like... If somehow i manage to die, consider?

[Enchant]

It's actually funny how i want kill Scorpios regardless of claim, but know no one will follow.

Like... If somehow i manage to die, consider?

I've been your tunnel this whole game. You're just being lazy

Jokes on you, i know i will live forever.

UNLESS I AM EXECUTED.

[Enchant]

Don't execute me pls.

[Enchant]

Yeah i kinda feel we just speedwagoned townie.

Awesome!

[Enchant]

Who did you jailkeep?

[Enchant]

It's strange, but my trust in mastina starts to nosedive.

I think i will vote Scorpious anyway... But before i want know who Jailer targeted.

[Enchant]

So... my Enchant townread has evaporated.

You also promised to bus wtf

[Enchant]

^

VOTE: scorpius

If you jailkept Enchant, why are you voting Scorpious?

There is no world in which scum nk's Enchant, here.

Dwlee99 is not jailkeeper.

Zefiead or what is this nickname claimed JK.

[Enchant]

I asking again, more seriously now.

Who submitted Town Jailkeeper and Town Neapolitan?

I didn't.

[Enchant]

... About what you informed?

[Enchant]

Okay, that's pretty easy to confirm... I think.

You really used Neopolitan willy-nilly n1, instead of Informed?

Just bruh.

[Enchant]

Like can't blame your style, i probably last person here to blame for that (i would use vig lol), but eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee.

Okayyyyyyyyyyyyy i thinnnnk we can kill someone else instead.

[Enchant]

Hey, i know.

VOTE: Titus

[Enchant]

It's actually tricky situation, if Scorp maf, he will just claim Roleblocks, if town mafia will roleblock him.

Like i really don't know how to deal with that, unless we manage to kill roleblocker duh.

[Enchant]

Design Process

Below are the steps I will take to produce a design.

UPick Submissions:

Players will submit their UPick submissions. This will be up to three Normal legal mafia and town power roles (so up to six roles in total), including any modifiers the player wants to include. A player may also submit a

Mafia Preference

or a

Town Preference

, and a

Vanilla Preference

if they would prefer to avoid a power role. Preferences are only that and may end up not being followed, but the role you receive will be a town power role or mafia power role from the ones you submitted, or the town vanilla or mafia goon roles presented below.

I realised.

I just realised why Scorpious could make sense as NK if real town.

Scorpious very early posted townpicks. Of course he didn't submit 1-Shot Neapolitan, but submitted JOAT and other roles. Mafia certanly could have notice that faster than we did (No one even noticed lol).

[Enchant]

Ergo, claiming something out of picks you posted early is VERY FUCKING UNWISE MOVE.

Because if you suggested JOAT, Roleblocker and Ninja, then you are one of these roles or Vanilla Townie.


Nice gambit though.

[Enchant]

But really, there's questions appearing in my mind.

Why mafia didn't roleblock you or za...well Jailkeeper.

They could simple RB JK and kill you, without needing wasting kills on protect. Why didn't?

Even if mafia are fools and decided to roleblock someone else, then why they still attacked you instead of JK.


Hm.

[Enchant]

Optionally for massclaim (idk why we doing this) we can claim townpicks instead.

[Enchant]

Optionally for massclaim (idk why we doing this) we can claim townpicks instead.

Your head would split open if you read mine and it would be a terrible mess to have to clean up.

I wouldn't want to do that to the mod.

Well, idk if this can rival (i obviously didn't get this role, otherwise there would be bloodbath already)

Spoiler:

I suggested Loyal 99-Shot Vigilante as one of three.

If your picks on level, then i can cope.

[Enchant]

Now i want know your picks.

[Enchant]

Then bus your teammates harder so game will end.


Also about that.
I am not comfortable killing Scoprious for now.

[Enchant]

I simple fear Scorpious is VI because of how horrible everything was executed.

Like it's only moment which stopping me.

[Enchant]

Go share, why not.

[Enchant]

MOD: Would an activated Informed be possible to be roleblocked?
E.g. if an Informed were part of a JOAT, could the information fail to be given if roleblocked?

(This is something I don't think the NRG has an answer for due to how niche it is. I'm on the NRG and I don't know the answer to this, to give you an idea of how niche it is, so I don't think we have it standardized meaning I do need to ask the mod about it.)

An activated informed would not be blocked.

Then leaving Scorpious alive for night makes sense.

[Enchant]

Did we ever figure out what could have stopped Scorpius N1 result?

Yes, we did, it's... *dies*

[Enchant]

My suggestion:

We lim... Someone, expect for Scorpious and Jailkeeper. Idk didn't decide yet, but killing Titus is tempting i am not joking.


Scorpious uses Informed. This ability can't be roleblocked as mod told. You "can" try to use Vigilante instead, and i am telling this only to wifo mafia in wasting roleblock on you (Or laugh at you). It's Higher Risk, High Reward: Fail, and we will murder you. Success, and you go in "Confirmed Townie" as Vigilante is onlytown power.
Jailkeeper... Jails someone. I don't think it's good idea to tell who, but again, Scorpious could be jailed again: Informed can't be RBed. I suggesting protecting more townie players though.

Others do you do.

[Enchant]

I want murder Scorpios.

I also don't want waste potential information from informed.

Idk i am wealking can't even murder without hesitations, give me times when i just hammered shit out of everything please, but we should consider, is potential for intel or perhaps vig shot are worth of elimming elsewhere?

[Enchant]

Hammer or not.

That's question.

[Enchant]

Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

Ok.

VOTE: Scorpious

[Enchant]

Fuck meta.

Fuck this game personally.

HAHAHHAHA

[Enchant]

Man, I am so lame. Everyone asked for all these exotic roles and I’m here, like yeah! Role blocker!!

Admittedly this is my first u pick

I picked
Ninja
JOAT
Roleblocker

With a town preference

I’m so boring

I noticed it at night.

All the time we had condemning evidence. And no one fucking noticed.

I quess we lucky.

[Enchant]

Galron

,

Enchant

- I am asking you to claim today.

ARe you plan to chop me

[Enchant]

Galron

,

Enchant

- I am asking you to claim today.

ARe you plan to chop me

No. If you believe that I'm town then please claim.

Do you have good reason to force me to claim?

It's kinda only question i need to be answered.

[Enchant]

If you say Yes, i will claim instantly.

If your reason is bad, i will be pissed.

[Enchant]

Galron

,

Enchant

- I am asking you to claim today.

ARe you plan to chop me

No. If you believe that I'm town then please claim.

Do you have good reason to force me to claim?

It's kinda only question i need to be answered.

If you say Yes, i will claim instantly.

If your reason is bad, i will be pissed.

I thought that went without question, but yes, I do have a good reason to ask both of you to claim now.

I cannot force you to claim. I am only kindly asking you to claim, because I do believe that it will bring town an advantage. Same goes for

Galron

.

I am Cult Leader.


Jke.

Vanilla Townie.
My preference are Vanilla and Town (Yes i was screwing with you and tried to get something from it, but i don't think it really mattered).

My town picks are:
Loyal 99-Shot Vig, Innocent Child, 69-Night Cop
My mafia picks are:
1-Shot Strongman, Informed, Macho


I wanted to look how loyal vig blast childs, but only when game going i realised only i could get mine picks, so i basically wasted it.

[Enchant]

I am Cult Leader.

JK

Wow second JailKeeper cliam

[Enchant]

Fairly i thought Mastina is Cop with innocent on Scorpious and suffered before flip.

Now i can only wonder what she say.

[Enchant]

Given the high probability that

Enchant

and

Galron

's claims are true, the remaining two scums are hiding amongst these players: (

mastina

,

Dwlee99

,

Taly

,

Titus

,

House

).

And good thing is, we have two more chances at hitting scum given the successful elimination of

Scorpious

. While the win is not certain, it significantly narrows down the pool of eliminations.

I missed point of claim...

[Enchant]

Now more important question.

Why the fuck you track JAILKEEPER WHO STOPPED KILL ON FLIPPED MAF.

[Enchant]

I give this claim F+

Overall performance. + for surviving before this moment.

Just in a case, even i get C-

If this is town, we didn't get anything expect for laugh.
If you all consider me town, i should already excluded from list "Possible murdered someone", on second night it's obvious NK performed by Scorprio, so again miss. Third night is meme.

It doesn't give us anything, expect for claim info, and you should have keep this before we putted on E-1 and claim Cop/Doc/Cult Leader to instantly bust.
This situation is blatant "I have check on you". Like even if i was mafia with PR, i would just claim truth and you do shit to me.

I quess it's competence thing. Like can't all mafia make horrible claims here, right?... Right?

[Enchant]

... oh my.

VOTE: Greeting

[Enchant]

Ok it's not your fault

[Enchant]

UNVOTE:

Actually how i can let you die early and not let everyone to throw tomato.

[Enchant]

Tell it Flea.

OH almost forgot, i need to check this one.

[Enchant]

HOUSE TELL YOUR OTHER PICKS PLEASE

[Enchant]

House kinda right, omae wa mo shindeiru, it's very unlikely you surviving.

Atleast i refuse to believe House is dumbassmaf claimed to get your horrible claim out.

[Enchant]

Like really you would die anyway.

[Enchant]

I checked twice and yes, I did target

Galron

Night 2. Which means that

House

's claim is false.

Imagine not remembering who you check

[Enchant]

Well. Kinda ok.

Greeting dies like 101% sure.
Who is Greeting partner? You could be not here to point things when it happens.

[Enchant]

Not to mention, any actual experienced townie knows that a Tracker no result doesn't soft clear anything because Goon.

Greeting admitted as much in the same post, which means he only wanted to buy himself town cred and have the means to toss his precious soft clears back in the lim pool later.

The intent of his claimed results was to give zero actual information to town.

Why would I even need towncred? Was there anyone who even seriously suspected me before my claim?

There's no possibility of both of us telling the truth with our claims.

My claim about both my role and my targets is real, which must mean that you're lying.

There's also no point in me dragging this on further, because otherwise you'll overload this thread with another hundred of your posts anyway for town to brush this off.

You keep reminding it to self, or you trying to persuade us?

[Enchant]

It's last post related. There's nothing funny anymore.

It's sad.

Do you think Mastina would pass this claim as teammate?

[Enchant]

Hard claim Combined Watcher/Voyeur

Submitted because I wanted to see who visited other players & what action they took on that player.

N2 Target was Galron. Nobody visited him that night. I'll hold my other actions until they're necessary to reveal. Greeting will confirm me as town, for those that didn't figure it out yesterday.

uh what does

watcher/voyeur

even mechanically look like?

tbh this is maybe the second time ive ever encountered "combined" in a mafia game and the first wasnt even through playing it

i guess you have reasons not to bring up N1 target so

Superwatcher.
Ultimate lifeform.

[Enchant]

Not to mention, any actual experienced townie knows that a Tracker no result doesn't soft clear anything because Goon.

Greeting admitted as much in the same post, which means he only wanted to buy himself town cred and have the means to toss his precious soft clears back in the lim pool later.

The intent of his claimed results was to give zero actual information to town.

Why would I even need towncred? Was there anyone who even seriously suspected me before my claim?

There's no possibility of both of us telling the truth with our claims.

My claim about both my role and my targets is real, which must mean that you're lying.

There's also no point in me dragging this on further, because otherwise you'll overload this thread with another hundred of your posts anyway for town to brush this off.

You keep reminding it to self, or you trying to persuade us?

What do you think?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

no thoughts
brain empty
ephoria


Also i had almost opposite role in other game.
Combined Follower+Tracker.
Well... I did killed one scum, but there was ninja. So mafia keep me alive because otherwise i am notcompetent.

[Enchant]

What to say.

Claim confused me. I managed to recover thankfully.

[Enchant]

Remind what stopping me... Expect for Twilight House post.

[Enchant]

Remind what stopping me... Expect for Twilight House post.

You're already voting the wagon.

That's what.

I unvoted, rememba?

[Enchant]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[Enchant]

Ok

[Enchant]

I am not submiting to anyone.

I live my own way.

You can't kill me, i am immortal.

[Enchant]

VOTE: Greeting

Only cuz you asked nicely.

[Enchant]

How you insert gifs btw, i tried they always break.

[Enchant]

nah

[Enchant]

Okay

How you insert gifs btw, i tried they always break.

[Img*]url [*/img]

No *

Thanks

By the way, I renounce my claim.

Guess I should mention that.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcF_lrtkJCY[/youtube]

[Enchant]

Fuck these tags really

[Enchant]

Too late i already died

[Enchant]

I am handsome in middle.

[Enchant]

I decided it's time to claim but i am actual Loyal 99-Shot Vig, i just shot in Scorpious all nights, third one included.

[Enchant]

I decided it's time to claim but i am actual Loyal 99-Shot Vig, i just shot in Scorpious all nights, third one included.

I'm not going to be around to protect you forever.

Like i need it. As told before i am immortal.

[Enchant]

BWHAHAHAHAHA

[Enchant]

BWHAHAHAHAHA

Scum gloats feel so good don't they?

Yes, cult win.

[Enchant]

House is mafia.

There's no fucking motivation in forcing elim like that as town and claim "I faked lol" on twilight.

If he was real town who believed to kill scum, he just remain silent and trying to bait shot. He tried to dodge our rage by this. Simple.

I don't consider him Mason or any other PR also, because i believe he is competent enough to push bad claim with NORMAL MEANS, not baiting bullet on his ass.


Titus blatant partner or really horrible.

That's all, i voting house next day (not in game day, real day, you have time to throw shit on me cuz i only checked for some minutes and sleeping). There's no words which will stop me, so don't bother.

You fucking not getting away. Yes, i reeks pathos sometimes.

[Enchant]

Good morning.

Did i mention no words will change my mind?
You literally had no reason for this gambit as town. None.

As Mafia though..
Just in a case. I considered claim bad. Like, really bad. It was so bad, it was good, and i started question competence. But when you claimed guilty, i believed you, obviously.

Also House.
Mafia is Team Game. If you are town who failed gambit, then RIP. You knew price for this. Like, no angry thoughts, i made these mistakes too, but i actually have backup plan when i doing this. Or really good reason. You didn't have both.

I am not letting you walk out of this alive.

VOTE: House

[Enchant]

And as I said, I don't particularly care if I get killed over it.

Good.

[Enchant]

You saying by this kill you playing on your wincon.

It's only truth if you are NOT town.

[Enchant]

So I claim no responsibility for what you did

I played to my win condition. I achieved my mission.

You didn't achieve town wincon.
You actually pulled us in deep ass while we barely started to manage pull self out.

[Enchant]

Tell me this, Enchant...

If I'm scum with Scorpious, why do I call shenanigans on his claim and refuse to hop off when everybody else starts leaving the wagon?

Any actual analysis of the game shows I'm not scum. You're just bitching because I don't play the stereotypical towny.

No chance.

Gambits are fine. They are punished for reason. They also called Gambits for reason. High Risk, High Reward. You had High Risk, Low Reward even before flip so i don't see you doing this as town, unless you are idiot. You are not idiot.

From my perspective you played well, as scum.
Getting this elim was good.

If i let you get away with this, i will be idiot.
I am not Idiot.

[Enchant]

Well i am sometimes not Idiot.

[Enchant]

Tell me this, Enchant...

If I'm scum with Scorpious, why do I call shenanigans on his claim and refuse to hop off when everybody else starts leaving the wagon?

Any actual analysis of the game shows I'm not scum. You're just bitching because I don't play the stereotypical towny.

No chance.

Gambits are fine. They are punished for reason. They also called Gambits for reason. High Risk, High Reward. You had High Risk, Low Reward even before flip so i don't see you doing this as town, unless you are idiot. You are not idiot.

From my perspective you played well, as scum.
Getting this elim was good.

If i let you get away with this, i will be idiot.
I am not Idiot.

Go back to the newbie queue.

Seriously

Already played 5 times.
Still newbie. But they won't allow me to apply as newbie.

[Enchant]

UNVOTE: House

Brb sick of refreshing page.
I need tea.

[Enchant]

Why you get Scorpious and Greeting elims as same thing?

I don't remember you claiming Guilty result on Scorpious to get him killed.

[Enchant]

Why you get Scorpious and Greeting elims as same thing?

I don't remember you claiming Guilty result on Scorpious to get him killed.

I refused to unvote him because his claim of tracking me made no sense.

Greeting's claim of jailing mechanically cleared town made no sense, and that is what motivated me to call for his blood too.

Greeting was not Jailkeeper.
Scorpious was not Tracker.

[Enchant]

Scorpious "Watched" you not tracked.

Greeting tracked Galron, me and ... Jailkeeper. Still can't spell name right so.


Scorpious was just plainly awful.
Greeting played not well. Bad play not always equal scum. I for example considered Greeting simple not competent. Kinda yeah i was hesitating with Scorpio for same reason.

[Enchant]

I know. I kinda first to call this out.

But any sane mafia member could have scream infernally from this claim in scum PT. Like... Anyone mediocre competent.
And Scorpious claim was really well thought, to the point of fooling me. And then we have memetracker.

[Enchant]

I meant there's no sense to remind why claim was bad.

I wait for Galron and Dwlee99 to speak up, i don't want shit like previous day.

[Enchant]

I meant there's no sense to remind why claim was bad.

I wait for Galron and Dwlee99 to speak up, i don't want shit like previous day.

I agree but I don't see a solution.

If House somehow town i don't want to lose to two lurkers. It's even more dumb.

[Enchant]

About solutions. I have some.

I always do.

[Enchant]

If we assume you and House town.

Who is Mafia? Mastina? lolshit.

Galron+Dwlee99. And they not active. Losing to them will hurt my ego.