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Post Post #1760 (isolation #0) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:03 pm

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hello
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Post Post #1761 (isolation #1) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:04 pm

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I plan on reading approximately nothing of the game before this exact point

you're welcome
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Post Post #1768 (isolation #2) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 2:51 pm

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are you okay
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Post Post #1773 (isolation #3) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:15 pm

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In post 1578, Kerset wrote:
Vote Count 1.12With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate.


marcistar (8): Three, Harley Quinn, Blood Puppets, Andante, MegAzumarill, Enchant, numberQ, Dwlee99,
Milk & Mocha (2): Toogeloo, Voyc,
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia,
Toogeloo (1): marcistar,
Andante (1): Milk & Mocha,
Dwlee99 (0):
RH9 (0):
numberQ (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
Blood Puppets (0):
Enchnat (0):
Voyc (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting
(1): RH9,
Deadline:
(expired on 2021-12-27 13:59:14)
In post 1525, Three wrote:
In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=13185282#p13185282]post 1480[/url], Milk & Mocha wrote:voyc perhaps. three are you thinking the same think that taly is thinking here about toog?
Yeah I am. I was already concerned about it but wanted to see how it'd go.

VOTE: marcistar
In post 1527, Harley Quinn wrote:On reread, I don’t agree with Pooky that Marci hasn’t done anything but she does sound different here than in OMB where she was pretty much questioning everything. Here, she just seems too certain almost about her takes.

VOTE: Marci
In post 1533, Blood Puppets wrote:I love shitting on 2 EoD wagons by successfully encouraging a new one :D

VOTE: Marcistar

~taly
In post 1537, Andante wrote:VOTE: marci

sure
In post 1557, MegAzumarill wrote:VOTE: marci

Feels like scum intentionally jesttelling
In post 1567, Enchant wrote:VOTE: Marci

KILL DESTROY
In post 1572, numberQ wrote:VOTE: marcistar

Isn't this the hammer? Meg said E-2 but they had 5 at last VC I'm pretty sure.

I lean more town here but I definitely don't lean jester, so I'm happy to get some flip info at the very least. Still prefer M&M for the record.
In post 1574, Dwlee99 wrote:VOTE: Marci
Just to make sure we get a hammer
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Post Post #1774 (isolation #4) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:16 pm

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In post 1424, Kerset wrote:
Vote Count 1.10With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate.


Toogeloo (5): marcistar,Blood Puppets, Three, Andante, Milk & Mocha,
Milk & Mocha (3): Toogeloo, numberQ, Dwlee99,
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia,
Dwlee99 (1): Harley Quinn,
RH9 (1): Voyc,
numberQ (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
Andante (0):
marcistar (0):
Blood Puppets (0):
ahhlo (0):
Voyc (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting
(2): RH9, MegAzumarill,
Deadline:
(expired on 2021-12-26 15:45:40)
In post 1553, Kerset wrote:
Not_Mafia have been prodded. Their third prod will result in immediate replacement.


Vote Count 1.11With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate.


Milk & Mocha (5): Toogeloo, Enchant, numberQ, Dwlee99, Voyc,
marcistar (4): Three, Harley Quinn, Blood Puppets, Andante,
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia,
Toogeloo (1): marcistar,
Andante (1): Milk & Mocha,
Dwlee99 (0):
RH9 (0):
numberQ (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
Blood Puppets (0):
Enchnat (0):
Voyc (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting
(2): RH9, MegAzumarill,
Deadline:
(expired on 2021-12-27 13:59:14)
In post 1578, Kerset wrote:
Vote Count 1.12With 14 votes in play, it takes 8 to eliminate.


marcistar (8): Three, Harley Quinn, Blood Puppets, Andante, MegAzumarill, Enchant, numberQ, Dwlee99,
Milk & Mocha (2): Toogeloo, Voyc,
Not_Mafia (1): Not_Mafia,
Toogeloo (1): marcistar,
Andante (1): Milk & Mocha,
Dwlee99 (0):
RH9 (0):
numberQ (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
Blood Puppets (0):
Enchnat (0):
Voyc (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting
(1): RH9,
Deadline:
(expired on 2021-12-27 13:59:14)
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Post Post #1775 (isolation #5) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:17 pm

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In post 1626, Kerset wrote:
Vote Count 2.01With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

RH9 (3): Three, Andante, Milk & Mocha,
Milk & Mocha (1): Dwlee99,
Not_Mafia (0):
Toogeloo (0):
Andante (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
numberQ (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
Enchnat (0):
Voyc (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting
(8): RH9, Harley Quinn, MegAzumarill, Enchant, numberQ, Toogeloo, Voyc,Not_Mafia,
Deadline:
(expired on 2022-01-05 19:00:00)
In post 1744, Kerset wrote:
Vote Count 2.03With 12 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

RH9 (3): Milk & Mocha, numberQ, Harley Quinn,
numberQ (2): Andante, Firebringer,
Milk & Mocha (1): Dwlee99,
Not_Mafia (1): Three,
Firebringer (0):
Andante (0):
Dwlee99 (0):
Harley Quinn (0):
Three (0):
Enchnat (0):
Voyc (0):
MegAzumarill (0):

Not Voting
(5): RH9, MegAzumarill, Enchant, Voyc, Not_Mafia,
Deadline:
(expired on 2022-01-05 19:00:00)


Harley Quinn on V/LA


Voyc is being replaced
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Post Post #1776 (isolation #6) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:17 pm

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very unfortunate pagetop

zzz
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Post Post #1778 (isolation #7) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:20 pm

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Three and Andante are standing out to me in particular just off this information alone

MegAzumarill's vote on marcistar appears particularly awkward

The RH9 wagon today looks a bit odd with the player compositions pushing it

Enchant's vote somehow got moved twice when they only voted one in their ISO, very odd
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Post Post #1784 (isolation #8) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 3:39 pm

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Three + Andante were on the biggest wagon, Toogeloo, and both of them switched to Marcistar early on in its growth

And both of them were on the RH9 wagon afterwards, but both left between 2.02 and 2.03

That entire chain of events doesn't feel natural
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Post Post #1802 (isolation #9) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:20 pm

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that's always a great read to see from a game with >70 pages
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Post Post #1804 (isolation #10) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:26 pm

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never fear, I have a great solution to this

give me a minute
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Post Post #1805 (isolation #11) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 4:30 pm

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VOTE: Enchant
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Post Post #1808 (isolation #12) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:04 pm

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In post 1806, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 1778, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Three and Andante are standing out to me in particular just off this information alone

MegAzumarill's vote on marcistar appears particularly awkward

The RH9 wagon today looks a bit odd with the player compositions pushing it

Enchant's vote somehow got moved twice when they only voted one in their ISO, very odd
I want some elaboration on this post.
(All 4 parts :P)
1 was already explained

2 is because of your explanation, it looks really awkwardly placed there

3 was already explained

4 is a joke
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Post Post #1811 (isolation #13) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:10 pm

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you're overestimating what I'm actually getting from these

that's more an icebreaker to get into the game at all than anything else
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Post Post #1812 (isolation #14) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:11 pm

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I'd really just say that if there's dead weight slots, just say fuck it and get them out of the game

I'd frankly rather have to deal with killing all three scum over having to worry about which of the four or five slots doing nothing is the deadweight scum
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Post Post #1814 (isolation #15) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:14 pm

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lowest volume posting slot

I'm skipping Voyc since that slot at least has content whenever it posts
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Post Post #1818 (isolation #16) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:25 pm

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In post 1816, MegAzumarill wrote:
In post 1812, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I'd really just say that if there's dead weight slots, just say fuck it and get them out of the game

I'd frankly rather have to deal with killing all three scum over having to worry about which of the four or five slots doing nothing is the deadweight scum
The problem with this is I find it unlikely all of the scum are hiding in the shadows.
I doubt scum would try to let town solve unimpeded and we win if we manage to get only two goons so I think considering the relatively few active players we have greater odds of hitting scum.

Not to mention it's easier to sort those slots so finding scum shouldn't be too bad if my assumption is correct.
okay

so why kick the can down the road
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Post Post #1825 (isolation #17) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:51 pm

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Is the game going to get any easier if we leave all the empty slots there
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Post Post #1827 (isolation #18) » Sat Jan 01, 2022 5:52 pm

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Ftr I legitimately have lost a game before to a scum slot that did nothing for like 4 straight game days and was just left there while town eviscerated itself
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Post Post #1833 (isolation #19) » Sun Jan 02, 2022 6:57 am

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By that logic there isn't any firepower to kill anyone
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Post Post #1846 (isolation #20) » Sun Jan 02, 2022 11:44 am

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Am I lurking?
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Post Post #1849 (isolation #21) » Sun Jan 02, 2022 12:05 pm

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This is bullshit

I demand a recount
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Post Post #1863 (isolation #22) » Sun Jan 02, 2022 4:35 pm

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be the change you wish to see in the world

vote out the lowest posting slots
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Post Post #1878 (isolation #23) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 12:59 pm

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I guess I'll just go with whatever

I don't think killing any active players is useful in any way though
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Post Post #1902 (isolation #24) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:32 pm

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When the gamestate isn't healthy, you take steps to make it healthy
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Post Post #1908 (isolation #25) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 4:47 pm

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In post 1901, Firebringer wrote:
In post 1899, RH9 wrote:Firebringer, what do you think of Three's idea to eliminate an active player instead of an inactive one?
im fine with yeeting inactive players if i have no scumreads. Yeeting an active player just out of preference seems silly to me. If u have two players and u have no read on either and one is active and other isn't. I am going for inactive player, it at least encourages players to post more.

Though this is just personal pref and has nothing to do with alignment so kind of curious why u ask.
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Post Post #1927 (isolation #26) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:12 pm

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Nvm

I'll just chill and watch
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Post Post #1929 (isolation #27) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:13 pm

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Idk what to tell you
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Post Post #1934 (isolation #28) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:18 pm

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What

That was literally a generic post that wasn't aimed at anyone specifically
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Post Post #1935 (isolation #29) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:19 pm

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Or the idea is

I've said something along that vein to like 4 people now?
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Post Post #1942 (isolation #30) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:23 pm

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Idk if this game is worth properly engaging into arm

I'm kinda leaning towards watching for a while
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Post Post #1950 (isolation #31) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:30 pm

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Idk what to tell you on that one

The general sentiment here is that too many slots are not doing anything, so there really isn't much point in reading back even if I felt it was at all useful

Truth is, killing active players is straight up bad for the game because what happens if you do that is you run into situations where those lurksack slots are the dominant slots remaining and they're inherently harder to solve from that stage

So the idea that our biggest wagon is on one of the most active slots is really fucking wild to me
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Post Post #1952 (isolation #32) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:30 pm

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In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=13196531#p13196531]post 1948[/url], Milk & Mocha wrote:like what's that thing behind your hat

is it a sword or a guitar?
What part
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Post Post #1974 (isolation #33) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:40 pm

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Spoiler:
Image


It's part of her puppet, Claomh Solais
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Post Post #1978 (isolation #34) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:41 pm

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I'm realizing I missed part of the background

Oh well
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Post Post #1979 (isolation #35) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:41 pm

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I'm nowhere near engaged enough to be able to answer that
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Post Post #1986 (isolation #36) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:44 pm

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In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=13196577#p13196577]post 1981[/url], Milk & Mocha wrote:
In post 1979, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:I'm nowhere near engaged enough to be able to answer that
what if I told you we could win the game right now
That sounds like a really tall order if what I'm hearing is true
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Post Post #1998 (isolation #37) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:49 pm

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:?
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Post Post #2013 (isolation #38) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:54 pm

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This game needs a defibrillator
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Post Post #2026 (isolation #39) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 5:58 pm

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Idk I'd say I won't let him but I doubt I get to late game
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Post Post #2038 (isolation #40) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:01 pm

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That feels like a town post from NQ yeah
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Post Post #2099 (isolation #41) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:38 pm

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all the last 10-15 pages has told me is that I'm probably correct in just taking the activity overview and killing the entire playerlist from the bottom up
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Post Post #2110 (isolation #42) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:43 pm

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In [url=https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?p=13196805#p13196805]post 2107[/url], Milk & Mocha wrote:
In post 2099, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:all the last 10-15 pages has told me is that I'm probably correct in just taking the activity overview and killing the entire playerlist from the bottom up
but wouldn't that mean we kill you pretty soon? your posts are all like 1 word o-o
I've also been in the game for like 2 days?
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Post Post #2119 (isolation #43) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 6:54 pm

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This is an odd in-hydra conversation
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Post Post #2129 (isolation #44) » Mon Jan 03, 2022 7:53 pm

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you've given me a lot to think about

I will do so
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Post Post #2216 (isolation #45) » Tue Jan 04, 2022 7:03 pm

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hello
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Post Post #2218 (isolation #46) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 4:12 am

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I'll add up whichever numbers you want added
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Post Post #2220 (isolation #47) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 4:31 am

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Cool
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Post Post #2223 (isolation #48) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:28 am

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Am I going to have to read the game
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Post Post #2224 (isolation #49) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:29 am

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I try to avoid that since i see it as a very bad habit in a lot of games
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Post Post #2228 (isolation #50) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:19 am

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I mean...

I don't have anything else to add

I don't think killing active slots is useful to the game and that's where everyone is at
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Post Post #2229 (isolation #51) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:19 am

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Even if rh9 is killed and flips scum, I don't think that's actually useful to the game
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Post Post #2230 (isolation #52) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:22 am

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That's essentially gambling the game on his flip because the game just gets exponentially harder from this point if you start removing all the active players
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Post Post #2233 (isolation #53) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:26 am

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Nobody currently in the game has not posted within the last two days

Three and Dwlee have posted a lot at some point
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Post Post #2235 (isolation #54) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:27 am

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Real question Q

Do you believe the current gamestate is healthy?
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Post Post #2237 (isolation #55) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:36 am

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It's at least something different

When you're in a limbo, you need a status quo change, because otherwise owls just go through the motions and nothing becomes AI
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Post Post #2238 (isolation #56) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:36 am

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Ngl the fact that the entire game seems like this makes me pretty sure reading the whole game is a waste of time
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Post Post #2239 (isolation #57) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:36 am

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Actually, let's do this.

VOTE: Three
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Post Post #2246 (isolation #58) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:13 pm

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In post 2243, Three wrote:
In post 2239, Alyssa The Lamb wrote:Actually, let's do this.

VOTE: Three
If you read the game you might have a reason to town read me.
Or you could do something town now
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Post Post #2259 (isolation #59) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:21 pm

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His posts since I replaced in are one dimensional

Scum in these types of gamestates love to coast

Guess what type of play Three is exhibiting atm
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Post Post #2260 (isolation #60) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:24 pm

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In post 2255, MegAzumarill wrote:Could it just be Rh9 + Alyssa + other?

Seems like the most likely solve and I have some good associative either way with an rh flip. VOTE: Rh9
This post is horrific
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Post Post #2303 (isolation #61) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:44 pm

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I actually don't think HQ has been normal at all recently
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Post Post #2305 (isolation #62) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:54 pm

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Only one way to find out
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Post Post #2308 (isolation #63) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 4:24 pm

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idk I'm really not taking this game seriously atm
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Post Post #2309 (isolation #64) » Wed Jan 05, 2022 4:26 pm

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don't think I'd even care if I got voted out

it's kinda wild how lethargic this thread is

everyone just comes out of the woodwork to shut down my push and then it goes back to being lethargic

it's like everyone's resigned to being robots this game or something
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Post Post #2332 (isolation #65) » Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:40 am

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Here, let me help you all with that
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Post Post #2375 (isolation #66) » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:08 pm

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In post 2370, Harley Quinn wrote:I was upset with her using the words “not normal” wrt to me because I wouldn’t have gone on V/LA if I was feeling remotely normal.
I apologize for this
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Post Post #3487 (isolation #67) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 11:52 am

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I'm kinda annoyed that me correctly scum reading HQ resulted in that much of a blowout but shrug

I don't think town was ever winning even that far back
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Post Post #3512 (isolation #68) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:26 pm

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You the real mvp Looker

You did me proud
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Post Post #3515 (isolation #69) » Fri Jan 28, 2022 12:46 pm

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I will not comment

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