secret shitler IV [9/9] (fascist win!)

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I welcome this fresh hell

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oh, that was meant to be a /in if it wasn't clear (and assuming RC doesn't mind playing w/ me)

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tbf haven't libs won like 1 game in the last ~10

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that's what I get for not checking the results of the most recent games!

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it's v simple, just tell me if ur hitler or not once game starts, kay?

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I'm happy to play 9

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that's okay so long as dats rolls me fasc

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hey lukewarm, quick question, you hitler?

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I'm just gonna assume that peta and pooky are both fasc

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hey lukewarm, quick question, you hitler?

I have been discovered lol

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Luke should prob go with andante or beeboy no?

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on the one hand glad to actually be lib on the other hand it had to happen in the fasc-sided game

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Luke should prob go with andante or beeboy no?

Go with?

to nominate as chancellor

you generally want to have separation of 2-3 players between president and chancellor

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andante sus

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I'm

not at all sure I trust that?

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is pooky

is pooky just outright fasc claiming?

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okay so pooky is fasc who is trying to rebalance the game I guess?

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is pooky

is pooky just outright fasc claiming?

pooky has said he wants to rearm germany every game

oh, this is a new meme, he didn't do this last marathon weekend

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okay but have you considered that I may just be dumb ?

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Luke prob fasc or hitty

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btw

let's play with this rule

anyone who claims blue blue red and passes 1 blue 1 red is claiming fascist

if you get two blues you must force this game

did everyone see this

yeh I'm just not convinced

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okay but have you considered that I may just be dumb ?

nah you are incredibly smart i have played many games with bigbrain you

u constantly overestimate me pooky, which I appreciate for ego reasons but which sadly leads you astray when it comes to reading me

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we should prob actually discuss RC's proposal tho

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pres gets powers after a certain number of fasc policies pass, also after I think 3 fasc policies hitty getting elected as chancellor is gg

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peta/pooks u realise that in the unlikely event that you are both lib if this turns into an actual conflict we prob just lose yeh

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btw

let's play with this rule

anyone who claims blue blue red and passes 1 blue 1 red is claiming fascist

if you get two blues you must force this game

did everyone see this

yeh I'm just not convinced

Why not

What's your counter reasoning

I think testing can be worth it if libs are ahead and we can get potentially a couple of rock-solid lib pairs

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like how fasc sided is 9p for it to be worth completely removing a tactical resource?

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Rock solid lib pairs in 9p where there's basically infinite combinations of lines where passing a blue can make sense? How does that work?

are we not planning to do same pairs over and over until they pass red/conflict?

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It's not a tactical resource to let fasc trade conflict for reds when fasc can conflict three times and still have a remaining fascist out of conflict

Do you understand what I'm talking about

eli5 on why this is functionally different from passing 1l1f in 7p

bc there's only 2 fasc in that mode ?

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beeboy why did u nein?

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Luke, what cards did datisi give you?

Because of this question, i think Andante is Hitler.

er

why?

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i wanted to see more vote cycles occur before i went with a yes vote.

y?

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idk if I wanna ja this but idk which govt I'd prefer

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I think no for this?

y?

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also idk if I like rc going quiet

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okay that's kinda the same thing I had

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also where is the bear

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i think there is a very small set of lines where she passes blue with 11, i think that with thread chat the way it was 1 always passes 1-1, and I'd rather see 4x than 2x 41 on multiple dimensions

I know that this is a marathon

but this means nothing to me

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4x what, 2x what

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and when I say "means nothing" I mean "I have no idea what ur trying to say"

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so either hitty in Luke/andante or andante prob clear?

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4x what, 2x what

andante is 4 and enchant is 2

voting results

the government of president

enchant

and chancellor

beeboy

FAILS!

JA (3/9)

1. andante
   
2. pooky
   
3. enchant

NEIN (6/9)

1. menalque
   
2. cook
   
3. lukewarm
   
4. petapan
   
5. radiantcowbells
   
6. beeboy

election tracker: 1/3

cook is the presidential candidate.

deadline: xx:15

why confident in peta!lib?

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didn't meant to quote there

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nom Andante for Chancellor of Canines

shit wrong thread

VOTE: Andante

this is not legal

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I'm down to nein-to-andante but I'm also tin foiling that it's [peta-rc-luke-andante]

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think I lowkey wanna follow rc's strat and then assume that if things go wrong it means he's fasc

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if it's rc Luke peta andante we're playing 147 and winning so gl with that

?

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I'm down to nein-to-andante but I'm also tin foiling that it's [peta-rc-luke-andante]

should be obvious soon enough thats not the case

why does this feel so much like you telling me that I'm half right

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yeah, after the third one we draw top card and that gets played

almost always better odds of drawing fasc

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I rly don't get what the peta!lib thing is based on at all and that's what's making me paranoid

also I'm not susp of you bc of you calling you're lib, I'm susp of anyone who's steering the game -- which I think you are doing, not without consent, but I think that does mean you're deserving of some extra scrutiny

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i don't do dumb cheeky shit like that

peta

that's literally like

your scum MO

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I could convict you in a court for doing cheeky shit while scum

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peta/pooks u realise that in the unlikely event that you are both lib if this turns into an actual conflict we prob just lose yeh

tbh i expect pooky to call me scum literally no matter what

would be more sus if he didn't

i'm not trusting luke off that because he would easily be pressured to passing L by all the people calling him fasc

also i think cook is fasc again

Cook is good about framing people as fasc.. I'm just gonna nein cook's and let it go to me

i wouldn't exactly call her play last time good

but also i'm not reading cook as lib this game

I'm down to nein-to-andante but I'm also tin foiling that it's [peta-rc-luke-andante]

should be obvious soon enough thats not the case

why does this feel so much like you telling me that I'm half right

i don't do dumb cheeky shit like that, i mean me being liberal should be apparent

don't think this is fasc posting man

you were always better at reads than me, I don't see it *shrug*

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okay pooky I'm slowly coming round to your pov

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andante pls choose quickly it's been like an hour already

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idk what cap means rc

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Mena denied his own nom? why?

down to go with rc's strat of letting andante be presi although I hate her choosing peta lol

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yah, peta fasc bc he's lying about the "doing cheeky shit as scum" thing

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this is the third gov right?

yes, we need to ja

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Mena denied his own nom? why?

down to go with rc's strat of letting andante be presi although I hate her choosing peta lol

Do we know the order that people will be president?

yah, presi passes in table order

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claimed so far:

Luke-Andante 1L2F -> 1L1F -> LIB
Andante-Peta 2L1F -> 2L -> LIB

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who wants to be doomed with me.

hi beeboy

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that isn't what you want to see

what did you wanna see?

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rc if you're lib I think that at least half the game would benefit from you using eli5 language instead of gamespeak

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the type I ask when I don't understand where your head is at >half the time

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as its hard to know if you meant purely as in "oh that's a bad rand" or if you meant it in a "I was hoping for a revealing outcome based on what got played"

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I think probably nein

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or andante hitler

but dog cannot be hitler

wait why can't dog be hitler?

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rc can you please just use names

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uh

we should not be jaing peta-RC

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they are directly next to each other

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ur guess is as good as mine

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why should we be violating the general rule of "don't do a govt of two people directly next to one another" to do you/peta @rc

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What does them being next to each other matter.

I am begging someone to explain things where I can figure out what kinds of strategies make any sense in this game

I'll be honest, I don't remember the exact logic but it's something to do with someone having more power due to less passes around the table being possible or something

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I'm gonna be rlly sad if pooky and beeboy are lib

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rc I'll ja peta-you if you first give me a confidence list of all players from lib-fasc that I can refer back to later

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it's useful for me to try and trust you more which is what you're asking for

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or fine then elaborate on your possible pairings/teams, strong libreads

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okay rc let me rephrase: what is your current proposed rotation of pairings until conflict occurs?

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and why, obviously

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I'm not jaing shit until I hear back from rc

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okay I nein'd

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from what I remember of SH, being as open as is humanly possible with info is the best chance for libs to win -- that may be wildly misinformed but it's what I recall and I'm sticking to it unless someone wants to explain to me why withholding info in a game where fasc already have more info is a good idea

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wow thats crazy

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check me

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btw i want to point something out

If me and peta is FF that is blue every single time when 7x can play right after

Does anyone not agree with this

*raises hand*

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whoever it is hurry up and pick, I forgot how long these games go

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me or beebs is prob a good shout, maybe cook too

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okay I'm increasingly coming round to my theory of [peta-rc-luke] being all fasc

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okay I'm increasingly coming round to my theory of [peta-rc-luke] being all fasc

Ok so honestly menalque is just fascist

nop

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sorry my basic understanding of games like this is peta and luke can be FF right?

yes and prob are

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okay I'm increasingly coming round to my theory of [peta-rc-luke] being all fasc

of course he says that right after i submit the investigation

I mean I already told you everyone I would have preferred you to invest

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was just that what RC was saying made more sense to me

...because?

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rc you and I have literally never seen eye to eye in a game sense so if you're convinced of the townbloc then keep voting it and I guess I'll come around once I see that the 4 fasc I end up supporting aren't passing any lib policies

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either way can you hurry up and pick pls

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Dude Andante libbing Peta then telling peta that the gov is gonna red then it reds then asking for 94 is so fucking bizarre

andante didn't ask for me and her at any point that I can see in her iso?

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claimed so far:

Luke-Andante 1L2F -> 1L1F -> LIB
Andante-Peta 2L1F -> 2L -> LIB
Peta-RC 3F -> 2F -> FASC

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claimed so far:

(6L11F) Luke-Andante 1L2F -> 1L1F -> LIB
(5L9F) Andante-Peta 2L1F -> 2L -> LIB
(3L8F) Peta-RC 3F -> 2F -> FASC
(3L5F)

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hurry up and vote you fuckers

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claims

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Lukewarm if you're clown lib in 1 and that only passed because Hitler jad then fuck you

what the fuck does this mean

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claimed so far:

(6L11F) Luke-Andante 1L2F -> 1L1F -> LIB
(5L9F) Andante-Peta 2L1F -> 2L -> LIB
(3L8F) Peta-RC 3F -> 2F -> FASC
(3L5F) RC-Beeboy 2L1F -> 2L -> LIB
(1L4F)

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there should be 1 if people have been honest

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so in other words there are probably none

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I'd pick enchant

If they conflict you the game is solved

how

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fucksake

fine

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WHAT DOES JAD MEAN

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oh

right

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I was reading it as rhyming with had instead of as Ja'd

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god doesn't love me enough to let the game be solved this early when I rolled lib

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hm but RC/beeboy/enchant/pooky can't all be L

y

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someone other than rc explain it to me

I have literally no idea pookster

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claimed so far:

(6L11F) Luke-Andante 1L2F -> 1L1F -> LIB
(5L9F) Andante-Peta 2L1F -> 2L -> LIB
(3L8F) Peta-RC 3F -> 2F -> FASC
(3L5F) RC-Beeboy 2L1F -> 2L -> LIB
(1L4F) Pooky-Enchant 3F -> 2F -> FASC
(1L1F)

SHUFFLE

(6L11F)

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it'd be (3/5)*(2/4)*(1/3) right

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who am I meant to nom here

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I'm no longer convinced that ur fasc

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i'm feeling lost right now

snap

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so if rc fash

prob like uhh

nom beeboy

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considering if F gets passed, pres is shooting, I'm never giving Mena the presidency here

it's special election dude

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yes, but also we're not in hitler zone yet right

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oh wait are we on 3 lmao

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considering if F gets passed, pres is shooting, I'm never giving Mena the presidency here

well that's new

what's looking so bad with mena?

you and mena are definitely fascist...

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who should claim first

beeboy right

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uh

by whom?

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to maximise info

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to, you know, maybe make the game slightly less confusing for everyone else

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bc I'm waiting for beeboy to go first unless I'm meant to

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2f1l

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claimed so far:

(6L11F) Luke-Andante 1L2F -> 1L1F -> LIB
(5L9F) Andante-Peta 2L1F -> 2L -> LIB
(3L8F) Peta-RC 3F -> 2F -> FASC
(3L5F) RC-Beeboy 2L1F -> 2L -> LIB
(1L4F) Pooky-Enchant 3F -> 2F -> FASC
(1L1F)

SHUFFLE

(6L11F) Mena-beeboy 1L2F -> 1L1F -> LIB
(5L9F)

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I'm so lost rn

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oh fuck me if we don't do Luke then enchant or gypyx is pres

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I ja'd

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wait
wait
wait why are we jaing again

I think to avoid enchant or gypyx who are more sus than Luke?

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peta claimed an inno on Luke

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what was the other invest?

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claimed so far:
PETA claims INNO on LUKEWARM
POOKY claims INNO on RC

(6L11F) Luke-Andante 1L2F -> 1L1F -> LIB
(5L9F) Andante-Peta 2L1F -> 2L -> LIB
(3L8F) Peta-RC 3F -> 2F -> FASC
(3L5F) RC-Beeboy 2L1F -> 2L -> LIB
(1L4F) Pooky-Enchant 3F -> 2F -> FASC
(1L1F)

SHUFFLE

(6L11F) Mena-beeboy 1L2F -> 1L1F -> LIB
(5L9F)

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luke/me/rc/pooky/???



who is the 5th again

me

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maybe pause to take a breath and explain wtf is going on

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rc I'm lib and you need my vote if you are too
explain what is going on or I nein you

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wait pooky why did you ja that govt

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rc I'm lib and you need my vote if you are too
explain what is going on or I nein you

What do you mean explain what is going on

You jad a government that the president said to nein and the president got conflicted

what are the teams

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the only person I trust atp is beeboy

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I will nein any gov with RC in unless you explain what is going on

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"just trust me" isn't good enough

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wtf why enchant

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okay I'm neining everything from this point on

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I'll take my chances with top decking if you don't wanna explain *shrug*

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the people who call ja when près neins are confirmed fascist just ignore them

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beeboy why do you trust pooky?

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beeboy u r literally the only one here I trust on any level, pls talk to me

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I shouldnt I want to just end on me / Luke in some capacity but idk if I can get that lol

dude

like why tho lmao

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feel like Luke and Andy are both being insanely susp in different ways but don't make sense together

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The invest into the conflict makes Luke town I don't think there is any way around that do you disagree.

o-kay, yes, I think that checks out

I just find the way he's approaching RC to be susp

should I be trusting RC here?

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I mean rn I absolutely don't trust you rc and idk why you picked enchant over me/pooky/beeboy

but I also don't trust any of enchant/gypyx/andante

which is why I want to top deck here

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Topdeck is objectively bad in 1b5r

cool, explain why I should trust you then

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@beeboy I'm concerned that enchant is hitty and rc fasc or does that not make sense?

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Someone explain the world where RC is a baddie to me please

This is an open question.

I thought it was obviously town, but then lots of people told me I was wrong.

Someone who thinks I am wrong, please explain that world to me please

I don't trust him bc rc is very good at lying and controlling the game and is refusing to be open about why he picked enchant/what the fuck is going on this game when from his pov the game is solved (supposedly)

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HOW

IS 5 (WHO EVEN IS 5) CONFIRMED HITYLER

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also who is not voting ffs

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I'm lib and I nein'd
so

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cool

rc fasc i think

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assuming he kills me

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who was the hitty?

it's rc pooky peta right

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oh so it's rc peta beeboy pooky

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gg I guess

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Nah menalque Andante is our #4

u r a notorious troll

can u pls just shoot so game ends and I can go make food

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oh it's deadlocked

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wait wtf

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are rc and enchant conflicting?

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wtf is going on

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I was fully sold on rc pooky peta + hitty

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were you seriously claiming that beeboy is hitty earlier RC

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Right, but I thought RC had just been confirmed fascist

+1

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this feels like bait

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Right, but I thought RC had just been confirmed fascist

+1

Can one of you explain?

I thought rc had passed 2F to enchant and then was trolling knowing he could shoot lib to get 4-4 then tie it out to endgame

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who is fasc

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is the claim that beeboy is hitty
peta was fasc
remaining fasc is andante + ?

with lib being me, you, pooky, Luke, enchant

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If ur lib menalque you should know all 3 fascists on votes ngl

I'm sick, I'm tired, I haven't eaten in fucking hours and it feels a lot like you're being deliberately obscurantist

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so tell me what the fucking team is meant to be if you want me to ja

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cool

I'm neining unless somebody wants to make it real simple what's happening

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is the claim that beeboy is hitty
peta was fasc
remaining fasc is andante + gypyx

with lib being me, you, pooky, Luke, enchant

is this the claim ?

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or swap me out for gypyx or andante idgaf

is the claim that the lib core is you/pooky/Luke/enchant

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I AM THE FUCKING LIB HOW MANY GODDAMN TIMES

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I'm pretty sure I threw in SH and things are not clear in my head and I'm asking for a VEYR SIMPLE CONFIRMATION of whether I have the proposed teams right or not

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jfc ty

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sigh

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gg

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sorry for not sticking with you beeboy I was just so burned out by the end

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how

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think I saw that before in a previous game where fasc wanted to avoid the risk of top decking even if odds are better for fasc

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I got to peta/rc/pooky at one point but then the enchant pick made me think he was the hitty and that combined with the peta shot completely threw me off

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anyway, I'm logging off

gg again enjoy the last night of marathon for anyone who's staying around and playing it!