Infernal Affairs - Game Over!

[Scorpious]

I doubt anyone cares if I forego the RVS vote at this point.

[Scorpious]

Admittingly, I am a bit interested to see who would be eager to hop on/steer clear of an early semi-serious wagon on me, and why.

STD, I'm a bit curious since you are one of the familiar faces in this thread. Is your read on me influenced by meta?

You seem a

little

too concerned so early of how you are being perceived.

[Scorpious]

wow 4 posts from DW in less than 20 minutes.. easy there hoss.. Town DW

[Scorpious]

Is this a meta call or something?

indeed at least a town lean for effort so early, rarely will you see that avatar more than twice on a page.

[Scorpious]

Is this a meta call or something?

indeed at least a town lean for effort so early, rarely will you see that avatar more than twice on a page.

What in any of those posts is "effort"? It's

-a vote with no real explanation
-him backing off as soon as it's questioned by the very player he was supposedly scumreading, all while also placing his vote on a player that seems to be trying to push the game forward early
-a weak excuse of "not reading" to explain his bad vote
-and a one word "yes" answer to a simple question

So, what exactly makes this "effort" (I really struggle to call it that) town-oriented when it really seems so easy to fake and low effort overall?

Even more, why were they scumreading Andante on only the first 5 pages? They kinda ducked that question by claiming their read changed on the 6th.

well considering they have been in almost every game I have, I notice a stark difference,and I early lean town on it.

[Scorpious]

is there any chance i can interest you in not keeping this gimmick up for the whole game

It’s not even an entertaining one

[Scorpious]

Scorpius' read on me is weird and shortsighted and doesn't make much sense unless a tell that easy works on me (which I don't think it does)

itsa bad read but i dont think its bad to point it out
pedit: fun fact i was actually about to ask you whether u thought it was scummy and now i guess i got that question answered

I looked through my scum game with Scorpius and I have multiposts there, not really sure if much thought went into the read when he was saying it

well to be fair,there are other games being played that cannot be discussed. I guess others could read those if they felt the need.

[Scorpious]

In post 145, Scorpious wrote:
wow 4 posts from DW in less than 20 minutes.. easy there hoss.. Town DW

As much depth as a kiddie pool

VOTE: Andante
I'm getting the feeling that Andante is scum here

Meh
VOTE: CSF

just sayin..

[Scorpious]

that dwlee is inconsistent?

well,it was worth him pointing out that my comment had no depth.

I just figured a little reminder might be appropriate. it was an early town lean, not committed to a player like that..on page six in a large..

[Scorpious]

Just saying... what exactly? That we shouldn't pressure him for his posts, or how he backed off at the slightest pressure?

again,just someone telling me content had no depth and then reminding them about their naked votes.

[Scorpious]

Just saying... what exactly? That we shouldn't pressure him for his posts, or how he backed off at the slightest pressure?

i think he should be pressured ,but rarely does he respond to it.

[Scorpious]

I suppose I should grab the Starter Deck and show my cards.

Anytime I am misgendered, I will post the count in thread, quote the post and it will be ignored entirely.
I vote only twice per day.
I will make as many Isaac references as I can.
Behind the gimmick, I do still low key solve.

whats low key solve?

[Scorpious]

Re:206 THEY!! sor Dw

[Scorpious]

keeper is basicly saying they'll solve a lil' but its gonna be mostly troll/gimmick posting and a PL

PL? player list?

[Scorpious]

Well, if you don't mind, I'm just gonna make extra sure we don't see sudden lolhammers.

UNVOTE: Firebringer

So far Scorpious is the first slot that has given me enough to consider, I feel like. So far I'm getting more of a confused than a strictly scum vibe, but I'll hold off before solidifying a day 1 read on them. Magik I'm still thinking about since I don't give out free townreads just on activity.

Curious to what I’ve “given you enough to consider?

[Scorpious]

Most of your posts have been related to game content. I don't need to necessarily know your meta or even like said posts to start formulating an opinion off of that. You and Magik are the ones I'm giving the most thought to right now for that reason.

logical. tbh I liked your answer to my question before, I feel like a lot of town has made their appearance, always wary of danglers in a large.

[Scorpious]

Also want it known that I am not above Poilicy lynching anyone. I see the roster, I know what could happen.

[Scorpious]

1. Ix-nay the old ways. Adopt "Lim."

damnit, didnt even make it to page 10..

noted,and sorry

[Scorpious]

Policy lims really don't attract me the way they once did. Just not much information on them, too easy to hide scum following along, and I just really don't see the need for anything like that looking at this game so far.

I'm not familiar with alllll the "characters" but I do know what some of them are capable off.

I'm actually disappointed I didn't make it into NM's sig as promised.

[Scorpious]

Spoiler:

[Scorpious]

well Nero is town, for no other reason, than jinx and he owes me a coke

[Scorpious]

I don't owe you shit fool

What happens if you break the rules of jinx?
Traditionally, the penalty for speaking while in the state of being "jinxed" (ie, breaking a jinx) is a firm punch in the arm. Perhaps a more common penalty is that the loser owes the winner (that is, the person who called jinx) "a Coke" (cola beverage).

dont fuck with the universe

[Scorpious]

I'm saving my energy to troll Angel

please dont say it 2 more times..

[Scorpious]

I got a 20 minute commute and a therapy session, i dont wannna have to catch up on 8 pages later..

[Scorpious]

Yoo-hoo is the only drink of distinguished tastes.

[Scorpious]

VOTE: The Keeper

This looks like a serious vote. What's caught your eye?

I can’t tell if this is sarcasm… is it? The second is obviously a valid question..

[Scorpious]

I don't owe you shit fool

What happens if you break the rules of jinx?
Traditionally, the penalty for speaking while in the state of being "jinxed" (ie, breaking a jinx) is a firm punch in the arm. Perhaps a more common penalty is that the loser owes the winner (that is, the person who called jinx) "a Coke" (cola beverage).

dont fuck with the universe

About that soda..

and is Toog a normal troll slot?cause it looked liked they started trying then went flat..

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Magikhorse is one scum and my pick for the partner is

Tejate

.

s'it?

[Scorpious]

STD is STD..

Playstyle is 100% NIA.

[Scorpious]

STD is STD..

Playstyle is 100% NIA.

What is AI from them then, if I take this as truth?

With a slot like this? Their choices.. associatives, things of that nature.

[Scorpious]

This game is weird, it has like zero flow

[Scorpious]

@Magik

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=83963

Newbie 2025

I had some moderate success in reading scum!Magik on D1 in this game Newbie 2025. Magik may have replaced out during Night 1 due to early pressure but scum!Magik was able to easily diffuse my push D1 and left their scum slot in a widely townread position going into D2. The replacement into Magik's scum slot proceeded to run away with the game.

I equate this to the numbers they show next to the roulette table, the odds are the exact same everytime rgardless of the previous spin.

I hate meta. I don't like meta arguments. I'm not reading you anyway because of this I just hate meta arguments.

[Scorpious]

at his point with so many players and such little content, nobody can read anyone with any certainty, I don't care who you are.

[Scorpious]

I don't like meta as a major part of a case, and this case against me so far is exactly that. It's just "I think I can read him" with no meat on those bones so far. What am I supposed to respond to here?

you're just active. I wouldn't have the audacity to even try to read you right now,or anyone. like i said, not enough for anything beyond "guts" and those just cause fights.

[Scorpious]

and is Toog a normal troll slot?cause it looked liked they started trying then went flat..

no, what they're doing is out of character for them as either alignment based on a quick metacheck.

Meta is a generally worthless metric anyways.

I agree with this statement.

I always use a racing program as an example. It’s ALL meta. But it won’t tell you who is going to win.

[Scorpious]

and is Toog a normal troll slot?cause it looked liked they started trying then went flat..

no, what they're doing is out of character for them as either alignment based on a quick metacheck.

Meta is a generally worthless metric anyways.

Last game I was in there were a ton of meta arguments thrown around, and I think maybe one or two of them were actually correct. The rest were causing us to TR scum or SR town.

Case in point. You can fake meta. And if you don’t like your meta you just make an alt. Too many ways to manipulate it. It can be a guide, like what was used to give me a gauge one Toog. But reads off of meta are lazy and often weak.

[Scorpious]

I’m liking TR’s logic.. that is all

[Scorpious]

Frogster's scumcase so far isn't even meta. It's mostly just BoP. "I've read MagikHorse correctly before so he's scum here!" which is silly because I can say the same thing to argue he's town.

Meta is just another tool; it's only effective if used correctly. I've seen people who profess to hate meta invoke meta arguments all the time without realizing it.

*looks away*

[Scorpious]

Scorpius is relaxed, that's for certain. What sort of confusion were you seeing though?

Also sort of against their "I'm down to policy elim" post too, partially on principle partially because there really wasn't any reason to bring it up that early in the day. Kinda feels like planting the seed in our heads.

Well,the last game I was in with NM it became an absolute shitshow(I was even told I made his sig which i did not :sad face:), and I was told by someone in this game that I have no idea what this list is capable of. I'm really ok with gimmick by Keeper, because it's consistent and I actually do feel there is some game solving there. I would never start a policy launch because sometimes I'm not certain what is certain grounds to call for one, but if people are an agreement for it and it seems warranted. I'm down.

[Scorpious]

Also ToS, right on.. I found that game about 20 years ago. It's still a thing?

[Scorpious]

Sheeping STD

VOTE: Frogsterking

[Scorpious]

Sheeping STD

VOTE: Frogsterking

curious about this

I like std’s playstyle, reads are usually strong and I have no real strong reads right now, I’m leaning town on Tej

[Scorpious]

Too busy reading the gimmick

You can not blame us for not reading a word you say when like 1/25 of your posts even feel game related. Like, what is your goal here? Who do you want to send to the darkness or whatever? Who's from the dark side? Cause you're NOT playing this game... you're just "oh not my fault no one reads me"

Also ur posting is like literally not cogent to understand a mindset which is even worse than using a gimmick, because ur making this a guessing game of what the hell r u trying to say or get at with ur posts.

But gimmick usage to hide intentions is good enough for a good push.

I have an easy solution... just don't read a word keeper says lol

dude, they are a hardclaimed gimmick alt. It's not that they are "hiding" its just this alts gimmick play and those have always been around and you know it. This "overusing gimmicks is a scumtell" is very black and white.

DIE U SITH LORD

Using a gimmick doesn't make them town? In fact, the amount of times Keeper has gone "yall don't like my gimmick" has been way too many already to be town I think

Aren't I?
We're in Basement 1. The only thing we know so far is the item room and the shop is open, and we can make a good guess on the secret rooms.
We don't know what boss we have, we don't know if we're going to win or lose this.
We gather information, we gather consumables, we prepare for the lower floors.

Not reading what I say is nothing new to me.
Fact is I always Game Over.
Because Im an easy scum push. Claim I'm unreadable, or change my context and my meaning.
It's amusing.
I solve well on my Ascent as a result.
Problem is when the right items come to me, say Magic Fingers, and Deep Pockets...

The scum team should be scared.

And as for my responses to those hating on me... well the hate is quite clear.
I'm not going to stop gimmicking.
If anything your hate drives me forward
And I will respond to every bit of hatred that comes my way.

This reads like town annoyance to me.

This reads like I wanna know what happens to our adventurers..

On a more game note. I have a hard time reading it as scum as well, I’m trying to not be seduced by so far this consistent character. I’m willing to lean town here..

[Scorpious]

I'm thinking Galron + Frogster at this point for the two most likely scum. I did check, Frogster is indeed posting in another game at the moment.

Isn’t there some sort of “gentleman’s agreement” to not use site mechanics?

[Scorpious]

I've played multiple games from time to time, and I think it's unfair to judge someone based on differing activity between games. The other commitments might have the player more vested in the current game state, or require their time over other commitments. I myself can't multitask for shit, so sometimes I'll make sacrifices in time if a game doesn't require my immediate presence.

That being said, I think we can weigh in on frog's content here just fine without worry of their presence elsewhere. It's not like they have similar post content to someone like Frozen Angel. It is Day 1, early game still as a matter of fact, and it shouldn't really be concerning yet the amount of content any one player has produced yet.

I would tend to agree with comment about different levels of vestment in certain games. Never know. Could be a deadline day and we’re piddling around here.

Again, not shading just genuinely curious, both answers seem relatively fair.

[Scorpious]

VOTE: frogster king

hate naked votes on the big wagon..

[Scorpious]

VOTE: frogster king

hate naked votes on the big wagon..

I think he would've posted his case by now if he's town

If I had a good case, id be excited to share it. i don't think I'd forget about it, like he has here.

This is actually...quite fair

[Scorpious]

I'm getting town feels from most on this wagon,CSF the least but I dont hate this right now..

[Scorpious]

@Magik

349
Yes I've been working on a

huge

scum case on you!

can you case magikhorse

Yes I have done a lot of the work already and I keep procrastinating because of my perfectionism.

@Magik

viewtopic.php?f=50&t=83963

Newbie 2025

I had some moderate success in reading scum!Magik on D1 in this game Newbie 2025. Magik may have replaced out during Night 1 due to early pressure but scum!Magik was able to easily diffuse my push D1 and left their scum slot in a widely townread position going into D2. The replacement into Magik's scum slot proceeded to run away with the game.

Please tell me this third post isn't the huuuuuuge scumcase that you were worried about being so perfect. Like I have to hear you say it.

Because we've been waiting for literal days..

[Scorpious]

Andante is definitely a player's that's improved over time. The start of the game was really fluffy and weak, but he's grown into a more solve-focused role. Definitely want to see more of this, the same way I want Toog to push a bit more.

Hell is drawing more attention from me. That ISO is not very impressive to say the least. Same with Rat's ISO. Don't know why these two are N_M's top town reads. Just what exactly is he seeing in those two?

I do agree with his scumread on Dwlee though, it's another generally unimpressive ISO that's not putting in much effort to try and solve or garner information.

Now time to take a nap. Some of the pain meds I'm on are knocking me out hard, and making it a bit hard to stay awake.

Do you honestly feel NM’s reads are real? He’s got himself as his scummiest read.DWlee’s iso is always garbage. It’s their playstyle.
And Adante is a “she”.

[Scorpious]

UNVOTE: Frog

This is provisional based on their disappearance.

I’m not wagoning a ghost.

[Scorpious]

Andante is definitely a player's that's improved over time. The start of the game was really fluffy and weak, but he's grown into a more solve-focused role. Definitely want to see more of this, the same way I want Toog to push a bit more.

Hell is drawing more attention from me. That ISO is not very impressive to say the least. Same with Rat's ISO. Don't know why these two are N_M's top town reads. Just what exactly is he seeing in those two?

I do agree with his scumread on Dwlee though, it's another generally unimpressive ISO that's not putting in much effort to try and solve or garner information.

Now time to take a nap. Some of the pain meds I'm on are knocking me out hard, and making it a bit hard to stay awake.

Do you honestly feel NM’s reads are real? He’s got himself as his scummiest read.DWlee’s iso is always garbage. It’s their playstyle.
And Adante is a “she”.

Excuse me

You read me..

[Scorpious]

I'm getting town feels from most on this wagon,CSF the least but I dont hate this right now..

Why is CSF the least, just the naked vote from earlier?

Pretty much.

[Scorpious]

Also still need 2-6 for fantasy baseball so be sure to sign up.

If baseball even happens

[Scorpious]

Intent to E-1 in 24 hours.

This is a little goofy..
But if you think they are scum you should do the dirty work, no?

VOTE: Frog

[Scorpious]

Frog is E-1!!!!

[Scorpious]

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Want to explain this please?

Why are you asking NM to explain a read list? especially with themselves at the bottom. Seems a little like a waste of time no?

[Scorpious]

pedit i have no read on scorpious i just think frogster wagon has at least 1-2 scum on it and if its anyone those two would be my prime fos

honestly i would expect a scum NOT on a 10 person wagon to say something like this.

[Scorpious]

sheep me Scorp

but I think Tej is Town..

[Scorpious]

Why do you think Nero is town Andante?

very agressive, nero is a lot more agressive as town, but I don’t remember nero like this day 1, so idk, nero calling me a wannabe NM has killed me really caring right now, so probably just gonna take a break for a bit

I'm not a fan of this AtE honestly.. you feel what you feel,just looks weird and not needed in word from.

[Scorpious]

Unironically thinking Andante is scum

very original thought! good work!! combined with scorp, nero and tejate you could have 4 whole votes on me already!!! wow

relax fam..

[Scorpious]

this isnt you. just chill ..

[Scorpious]

Galron,

How strong is that read?

[Scorpious]

Galron is town, it’s obvious.

[Scorpious]

my issue is 13 alive, 3 maf... and n1 with all the town death... I feel like we have to lim maf

Wasted post… why?

[Scorpious]

Can somone tell me if I have to read 10 pages of TvT?

[Scorpious]

@Firebringer, MagikHorse, Scorpious, Save the Dragons Is there anything stopping you from voting Nero right now?

Yes, his Iso. I also agree with the Firebringer read.

[Scorpious]

I'd do a fire wagon with you scorp. u in Gal?

I'm in

[Scorpious]

Who do you think is scum Gal?

TR and ????

VOTE: Firebringer

I’m good with this

VOTE: FireBringer

[Scorpious]

nevermind. I don't want to engage in this line.

Yes, I am scum and i know for a fact that there is 2 scum on that wagon. Help me buss them

This isn’t cool, cute, edgy, funny, are anything remotely helpful.

You say you’re scum.. this entire game should vote you. Hate this play with a passion.

[Scorpious]

I don’t care. If someone says they are scum. They should get voted.
2 reasons
1.wincon
2. It’s a dumbass way to play and you deserve yeet in principle.

[Scorpious]

By the way, @mod can we get a VC please?

i told him... he should have saved the clips

who r u interested in hellbooks

this question is actually like hard as heck because i feel like im in the upside down world but here is one answer
VOTE: save the dragons

i also want andante to elaborate on what she thinks about other slots than tejate.
toog seems to be looking to give up independent scumhunting.
galron is literally going joker mode and i have no idea how to sort this sort of limbait.
scorpious could be scum for sure
i think the keeper's only thing that made me lean either way was some gimmick frustration that i read as town but still null (big part of this is that i tend to skip faer posts)
i still feel like tej is scum. frog picking him as a partner and then steering totally clear of him stinks. but idk what to make of the double magikhorse/andante chainsaw there
i think you are town with your d2 play

This is good. Couple of things, I think Andante scum reads me; I think toogs is just a bit lost and expressing a little frustration; with galron wysiwyg; the thing about the double magikhorse/andante chainsaw I want to explore more because my scum read on Tejate is starting to waver, but I'm not going to rely on a few things I found scummy on Day 1 for the entire game to scum read him.

This feels like you just kinda mashed together some thoughts trying to make it look like actual insight into the game. Nope. I don’t like it.

[Scorpious]

Giving support for this. As promised, I'll support hellbooks (and Magik) votes.

That's my elaboration.

do you not have any confidence in your own reads? do you have opinions about who is scum ?? whats with this?

I am notoriously bad at this game. There are occasions where I display moments of brilliance, but generally speaking, I wing it. I've adopted a more supportive play style over the years where I find players I town read and try to work with them.

In all honesty, part of the reason I am bad though is because I start to skim when I get bored of the conversations or start seeing giant walls.

Another reason is that I'm just not an aggressive person. I don't even place RVS votes. I just idle until I see something I might be able to work with.

Finding town has often been easier than finding scum for me, so I go that route, and try to figure who "can't" (or less likely to be) be partnered with flipped scum and work from there.

Geez. I could have written this post. Word for word.

Mood.

I

have

written this post over the years. Mostly as scum. Reasons to not have any cases or any real accountability on anything.

[Scorpious]

Giving support for this. As promised, I'll support hellbooks (and Magik) votes.

That's my elaboration.

do you not have any confidence in your own reads? do you have opinions about who is scum ?? whats with this?

I am notoriously bad at this game. There are occasions where I display moments of brilliance, but generally speaking, I wing it. I've adopted a more supportive play style over the years where I find players I town read and try to work with them.

In all honesty, part of the reason I am bad though is because I start to skim when I get bored of the conversations or start seeing giant walls.

Another reason is that I'm just not an aggressive person. I don't even place RVS votes. I just idle until I see something I might be able to work with.

Finding town has often been easier than finding scum for me, so I go that route, and try to figure who "can't" (or less likely to be) be partnered with flipped scum and work from there.

Geez. I could have written this post. Word for word.

Mood.

I

have

written this post over the years. Mostly as scum. Reasons to not have any cases or any real accountability on anything.

So you want to toss shade my way because why exactly?

how is it shade, it's fact. It looks like a post scum would write and it looks liek something I myself have written as scum..

what else you want? no need to be so sensitive. I know things about you anyway. you told us.

[Scorpious]

This game.

x-this might be scum.
Nero- Then vote tem
x- *votes*..

What the hell is going on in this game?

[Scorpious]

I'd put Adante in a scum slot before Galron.

[Scorpious]

i mean there's only 4 ppl I'd vote today (STD, Fire, Tej, Ad) but no one can agree though looks like STD wagon might happen so...

I'm with the Fire an AD side, I think Tej is a faction of some sort not mafia,and STD, just no, not scum shouldnt happen

[Scorpious]

Pedit: Hell was another player I'm concerned about as well, and if I added a fourth name to my scumlist it would be them. I didn't like Hell's D1, they kinda half supported the Frog push without looking like they were willing to commit to it, and now today they're just sort of coasting with Nero.

I don't think the Frog push should be too over analyzed. Its a Day 1 wagon with more people on it than some mini games even start with. It's not going out on a limb at all saying there is a scum in there(not saying you did. just saying.

Also whats up with "kinda half supported" what does "kinda half" even mean? Thats the epitome of a fence sitting term.

[Scorpious]

STD is STD..

Playstyle is 100% NIA.

What is AI from them then, if I take this as truth?

I think I missed this and and the answer is, I have no idea. But my first games with him made me think it was. and it isn’t..

[Scorpious]

Frogster is present elsewhere but not here.

I'll have to double check on this. If so, it's definitely scum indicative.

Was this sarcasm?

[Scorpious]

This wagon isn't pure, I'm town, and if my reads are wrong and need to be doctored, I will listen after you unvote.

Why should I have to unvote to make you listen to me, or anyone else for that matter? Your push is already an abysmal mess ridden with assumptions, bad faith, contradictions, and claims that you know me when it's obvious that you don't know jack. Now we see this post, which is solely survivalistic, an attempt to alleviate the pressure bearing down on you instead of sorting or solving or working with the rest of the town. I don't think I need to explain how that's +++scum points.

If you're actually town, show it to me and

then

I'll unvote. No sooner, no later. That's the only deal you're going to get from me.

What would have shown you “town” enough to unvote? You already said how bad the wagon was.

[Scorpious]

Andante is kinda just following the scum!Magik wave without any real input into it, just claiming it openly with no reasons. It kinda seems like his reads are following whatever's the most popular, and I looked back at his ISO and saw quite a bit of soft defending as Nero was saying.

Hellbooks has done very little today either but start an STD wagon for some reason. 1137 is a diamond in the rough from them, and even that's a bit shaky. The only reason I'm not scumreading them is that they started the wagon on Frog.

I want to hear some content from STD. I did a quick and dirty dive into a couple games, and even his town games looked kinda like this. There has to be a better way to read this slot.

Toog actually did a little bit for once, and I'm liking most of it. Less so the part that was basically an excuse to be lazy, but most else seems good. Hoping to see more activity in the future.

Galron's day 2 is just... unimpressive. The only good post I'm seeing in it is 1097, and even that's not much. If anyone has a reason to townread this, please share.

Scorp... I'm pretty sure you're town here, and I have a few questions for you. You said back in 1002 that Galron is obvtown, then 1164/1165 happened. Did those change your thoughts any? If you still think he's town, could you explain why to me? I'm really not seeing it.

Momo is a "quality over quantity" type, and what does come out feels like actual solving. 1019 is a real good catch.

I have no clue what Keeper is doing honestly, or why their vote is parked on me right now. Their posts insinuate it's about my vote timing I presume, but on the guy Frog specifically tried to ham up and elim? I need an explanation on that one.

I have nothing at all to say about Not_Mafia that hasn't been said by someone else.

Sorry no snip.. phone..

They were just observations and I was satisfied with the explanation I got . Been in a few games with Galron recently and this feels very vanilla and town.

[Scorpious]

What is the purpose of 1210 and 1211?

And to Scorp, I forgot just how picky Mafia players were at casual wording. Regardless, take a look at Hell's D1. They were pushing towards the Frog wagon half-heartedly, but didn't at all try to commit to it one way or another.

Just getting a second take that’s all. Just trying to sort the most verbose player so far. Answers to the above would be much appreciated.

[Scorpious]

What is the purpose of 1210 and 1211?

And to Scorp, I forgot just how picky Mafia players were at casual wording. Regardless, take a look at Hell's D1. They were pushing towards the Frog wagon half-heartedly, but didn't at all try to commit to it one way or another.

Just getting a second take that’s all. Just trying to sort the most verbose player so far. Answers to the above would be much appreciated.

Are you asking me to address 1213?

Not really.

[Scorpious]

Frogster is present elsewhere but not here.

I'll have to double check on this. If so, it's definitely scum indicative.

Was this sarcasm?

It wasn't, but the rules just changed so that mentioning factors like this as a reason for a read wouldn't be allowed anymore so the less said about it the better at this point.

Fair. We’re on the same page..

[Scorpious]

Is there anyone that feels particularly strongly on either hellbooks or Save The Dragons being town?

I don't have particularly strong opinions on either, but see them as where this vote is likely coming down to.

Interested on hearing the "WHYs" behind those reads.

I'm not particularly hip on either, but I haven't seen a compelling case.

STD was clear he was losing interest.

[Scorpious]

If there's anything else that Fire's scumreading Scorp for, please point it out. I've either missed it or he hasn't said it yet.

besides his general bad posts? his read on me is like copy and paste of nero. Which was terrible reason to begin with.
Nero being bad makes sense
Scorp just looking to piggyback.

Coming from the person claiming scum..

[Scorpious]

Is there anyone that feels particularly strongly on either hellbooks or Save The Dragons being town?

I don't have particularly strong opinions on either, but see them as where this vote is likely coming down to.

Interested on hearing the "WHYs" behind those reads.

I'm not particularly hip on either, but I haven't seen a compelling case.

STD was clear he was losing interest.

Why would that be AI though? There have been games where I've lost interest because of various things, hyperposting, unpleasant player(s), real life.

Hyperposting…. Sigh….

This was actually a mistake by me . I was referring to momo I guess I’m saying that is WAS NOT AI.

Sorry,

[Scorpious]

Is there anyone that feels particularly strongly on either hellbooks or Save The Dragons being town?

I don't have particularly strong opinions on either, but see them as where this vote is likely coming down to.

Interested on hearing the "WHYs" behind those reads.

I'm not particularly hip on either, but I haven't seen a compelling case.

STD was clear he was losing interest.

Why would that be AI though? There have been games where I've lost interest because of various things, hyperposting, unpleasant player(s), real life.

Fwiw I agree with your statement 100

[Scorpious]

@Keeper Your entire day 2 is full of indecisiveness, stating rather obvious gameplay points, and somehow coming out of the Frogster interactions deciding I'm scum from them at the start of the day after worrying about a multiball game?

It feels like busywork so far, though the other two scumreads are worse as I see it.

My entire play is indecisiveness. All I have is Quality 0 in my item room.

Who said I looked at interactions?
Who said I decided you were scum?

I might have to find the Anima Sola... wonder where Jacob is.

The Latin refers to purgatory if that helps anyone.

[Scorpious]

Just nothing that the gimmick seems to fade into the background when keeper has real things to say. Not sure what to make of that.

[Scorpious]

Gal is scummy, Fire really isnt

and you want my claim? lmao vote me and find out

I do now because I feel the absolute opposite of these two reads

VOTE: Adante

[Scorpious]

I want to do something cause this game has totally stalled. Start a momo wagon, I am never one to shy away from digging scum out of inactive slots.

[Scorpious]

hellbooks (2): Save The Dragons, Firebringer

this "wagon" bothers me. "I am scum" and "I am bored" are the two votes ... I think there is a scum here.. maybe both

[Scorpious]

i don't think "i am scum" is a good characterization of my vote?

not you

[Scorpious]

What's the difference between Gal pretending to be maf and fire pretending to be maf?

Fire claims Maf as both town and scum. This is a point I've made previously, bringing up both the Good Luck Buddy hydra (Pooky+Fire) and in asking Fire for a scumgame where they did it as well (which the successfully provided), and that gives a meta precedent towards it being NAI.

I haven't heard anyone make that sort of claim about Galron yet.

and this is my argument against meta in a nutshell, Is he absolved from this poor play forever now that he did it and ended up town a few times, its dumb play, and borderline anti-town.

[Scorpious]

I claim town

Anti-town response…

Just FYI

[Scorpious]

UNVOTE:

sigh..this kinda has to happen..

[Scorpious]

Adante is absolutely abysmal at being under pressure but I can vote a slot with a wagon started by a park.

[Scorpious]

y does this HAVE to happen?

you've seen the player list,right? E-1 is essentially a hammer, so I'd like to see what happens to the person that started the wagon, whether they ever speak again or get replaced..

[Scorpious]

ebwop to 1371 "CANT VOTE A SLOT" sorry

[Scorpious]

Are you just like following me around?

maybe

[Scorpious]

Imagine that, disappears conveniently and is still alive..

VOTE: FireBringer

[Scorpious]

Imagine that, disappears conveniently and is still alive..

VOTE: FireBringer

umm i announced i was on v/la

Fair enough since the game day is like 13 minutes old..


UNVOTE:

[Scorpious]

Well, I noticed the schtick was fading a bit with keeper toward the end of yesterday, almost like they really had to start actually putting thought into the game and not the gimmick.

[Scorpious]

hellbrooks/keeper for last slot of scum.
I lean on hellbrooks a bit here.

Scorpious is an idiot

.
Not Mafia is bait lims
Toogeloo is always town and im gonna unironically continue trusting that fact.

Sir idiot to you.

[Scorpious]

Tej was pushing toward the end of the day.

[Scorpious]

Rereading is critical at this stage, though the fact that I'm alive continues to be an oddity (as I've noticed Fire picking up on). At least Galron is gone, they would've been too easy for me to tunnel on today. Thanks to whomever shot them, unless it was scum upon which case I've got

nothing

on this game at all.

Will do some reading now, but I 100% will not be posting or checking in tomorrow. Tomorrow's my birthday, and I plan to spend it celebrating.

Enjoy

[Scorpious]

Ok, who has seen this movie?

We’re up to 8 VT’s with claims and deaths.

Would the context of the movie mesh with so many vigs and vt’s?

[Scorpious]

I haven't watched it yet, but from what I do know of the plot the protagonist is a mole in a crime ring of some sort. That probably explains the vigilantes.

Well shit. That automatically makes me think there is a traitor now.

[Scorpious]

I'm a bulletproof cop
I got "no result" on DWlee N1
I got "wins with town" on hellbook N2

[Scorpious]

So, to recap:

Toogeloo: VT
Hellbooks: Doctor
Not_Mafia: VT
Scorpius: BP Cop
Keeper: VT
Fire: VT
Myself: VT
Tejate: VT

Scorpius' claim doesn't make sense without a Mafia having some sort of roleblocker, even if someone dies the same night they're checked they should present a result. It's either unclaimed, or the role itself is fake. Will ponder more once I drive to work.

I'm more concerned about the VT claims, that gives us 11 VT's..That does not add up.at all..

[Scorpious]

Again, I've never seen the movie,but maybe I'm supposed to be the main character? Me being bulletproof makes total sense with all the vigs.

[Scorpious]

also *As I scribble notes* that math means either a 5 person scum team, or 4 s and one TP.

If thats the case,then we all need to go play some lottery(or not) cause we are in major improbable odds territory with all those guns and not ONE scum being hit.

[Scorpious]

Does it? I actually don't think it would be particularly unusual in a situation where we have absolutely no leads on what scum PR(s) could be. Scum can absolutely make big gambits, but in this case I wouldn't really call claiming a plausible PR with a roleblock night is even that.

Do keep in mind that Scorpious was also the last to claim, which means he got to claim having all of the information town has (assuming he's scum)

.

Is this why you skipped your "turn" in the popcorn? Where you concerned about being last and having that possibility for yourlsef?

[Scorpious]

Does it? I actually don't think it would be particularly unusual in a situation where we have absolutely no leads on what scum PR(s) could be. Scum can absolutely make big gambits, but in this case I wouldn't really call claiming a plausible PR with a roleblock night is even that.

Do keep in mind that Scorpious was also the last to claim, which means he got to claim having all of the information town has (assuming he's scum)

.

Is this why you skipped your "turn" in the popcorn? Where you concerned about being last and having that possibility for yourlsef?

I didn't skip my turn though? I forgot that I was supposed to pass it to someone else after claiming and then immediately corrected. For the record I'm not even accusing you of being scum, I'm saying that claim alone doesn't really make me think you're more likely to be town.

I appologize, I misread the quote blocks,

So that question is now directed at Toog. What are your thoughts on the last person to claim and is what was your influence for skipping your "turn.

And Tej, I didn't read that as an accusation fwiw.

[Scorpious]

So, to recap:

Toogeloo: VT
Hellbooks: Doctor
Not_Mafia: VT
Scorpius: BP Cop
Keeper: VT
Fire: VT
Myself: VT
Tejate: VT

Scorpius' claim doesn't make sense without a Mafia having some sort of roleblocker, even if someone dies the same night they're checked they should present a result. It's either unclaimed, or the role itself is fake. Will ponder more once I drive to work.

dont believe either hellbooks or scorpius claims.

Also what cop gets "wins with town" and why would someone roleblock scorpius.
Why would hellbrooks heal andante and then vote her

So the only claims you believe are the VT claims? cool..

Where are the CC's?

[Scorpious]

Galron is town, it’s obvious.

Well. I was trying to get a response from Galron or anyone so I could reference this..

Andante, you cop to fluff posting pages 1-5 but then deny it? I don't think that's AI but why?

Also, you're scum reading me for awkwardly unvoting scum and awkwardly revoting scum?

I was trying to see if

he

was crumbing,and I was going to flip it and use it as mine.

Never happened though.

So the short answer is no. I didn't. I tried,but I got too cute.

[Scorpious]

why would u get roleblocked night 1?

why wouldn't I? N1 actions are a crap shoot.

[Scorpious]

I don't really have much to say as far as reads yet, I went down with the sickness yesterday and I've been even more exhausted. Big thing I have to say right now is this: mechanically speaking, I think we should never lim hellbooks today. I'm going to assume that Pooky didn't include a cop of unknown sanity (I would hope at least) which means that if hellbooks is scum, by necessity, Scorpious is also scum. But scum!Scorpious doesn't actually necessarily mean scum!hellbooks. Therefor, I propose that we straight up eliminate hellbooks from the elimination pool.

As for the neighborhood, I've already given up on that. I didn't see a single thing that hints at their powers at all. Unfortunately, I think we're going to have to play this day mostly mountainous.

I’ve been reading you town this entire game and I can confirm He’ll. I’m looking into these VT claims, myself. Hopefully have something nice to offer later in the evening

[Scorpious]

Ended up going out, and staying out.

I’ll try to get into this as I promised later.

[Scorpious]

so far everyone in neighborhood was town. I heavily doubt pooky threw in 4 town neighbors no scum.
got to be a scum in there that didn't announce and it doesn't look like any of vigs crumbed the hood.

So im thinking someone is neighbor not saying. Probably one of hellbrooks/scorpious too
Or could be scum in VT claims.

Why do you heavily doing a mod would set up the game in a certain way? Are you close with them? Have you played their games often?

Or are you just generalizing?

It’s just a really weird way to present speculation on the setup. Like, Am I supposed to trust you more?

What’s the angle here?

[Scorpious]

Ebwop “doubt”.
Sorry for not previewing

[Scorpious]

This is SvT. or even SvS I'd honestly like to see it develop more.

I will say this, in late game situations (i know D3 being late is a trip)scum tend to be more active in trying to convince they are not. I'd like Fire to convince me today that they are not scum in this, that's where I'm looking right now, just so quick with the: "Let's massclaim, I'm VT" I really cant get passed it. especially to proceed on to say they'yre not feeling the PR claims.



I need these 2 to back and forth for my own sanity.

[Scorpious]

Spoiler:

I've never had a scumgame go on for long enough for any sort of pocketing to really occur, not in my memory. Not even I know if scum!me pockets people or not because, despite Frogster's claim of me being good scum, I've never lasted past Day 1 in any sort of viable state as scum and never put any sort of effort or focus onto one. One game I replaced out of, didn't really pocket anyone and only made it through part of a day before replacing out due to illness. Another I was mech screwed on Day 2 and surrendered to the town. The third was the one we shared that went way too fast for me to really keep up, and you ended up winning on your own because of the mechanics of that particular game. Is it something I'd focus on consciously? Hell no, I didn't in any game so far. Would it happen subconsciously? Hell if I know, there's no suitable data for me to look at in hindsight and the only previous serious pocketing claim I've had was also from town to town... supposedly pocketing a guy who was limmed D1 because I defended him against the loudest guy in the town. I may have underestimated your loudness as a factor, but I also believe same as I did then that a pocket with a decent chance at a day lim is also not very good and you were looking like that for quite a while with a fair number of people poking at you. If any reasoning holds out for me to avoid pocketing you, it would be that.

I'm holding out on calling you scum on a belief that you're simply wildly wrong town, and I thought as much was already clear from how I was talking to you. Yes, there's a chance I'm holding onto an early read tighter than I should again despite your Day 2 ringing no real bells at all for me, and I've been bitten in the butt by it before. On the surface it looks like scum sowing disunity with such radically different opinions from everyone else and the extra effort on what could be the final day, but given the nature of how it began it looks equally like growing paranoia of me being alive evolving into this mess we're in right now which could come from misguided town, hence why I'm more trying to understand why you're doing it over flatly accusing you. Instead of considering that I might be legitimately confused as to which it is you once again made the assumption that I must not want to push you but be scum nonetheless. That itself feels confbias as heck, like most of your case against me.

You've been guilty of throwing dirt at me all day, most of it which I can't even argue against because it's all bad assumption making regarding Frogster and my continued existence in the game, but me throwing some back to say "I think you're on the wrong track" is somehow bad? Pot, meet kettle. Most everything else is either disbelief that I'm actually hunting or not liking my methods (which no, you didn't directly say but rather pointedly hinted at by saying I "wasn't getting to the heart of players") so there's little I can do to talk without you bringing up those concerns in the form of more direct questions. It'd certainly help a ton more than trying to base me off of Frogster's play or other things I cannot prove or disprove, only point at and say "look again". That sort of push is infuriating at its core.

Regarding the assumptions you seem to assume that my problem is that you're making assumptions at all, which is sorely misreading it. The issue is the fact that most of these assumptions today are not agreeable whatsoever which hasn't been the case on previous days, and yet you're pushing them like they're hard facts despite nobody else being at your back. As I said earlier town must meet and agree with town on a day like today, and if nobody agrees with your points then sticking on them isn't particularly good without greater evidence, and I almost fear you wouldn't hammer when the time runs out if you didn't agree on the wagon. There is potential that doing so might not immediately result in a loss given the even number of players, but it is a concern nonetheless that also applies to Toogaloo as previously mentioned. You're beating the same drums repeatedly and not giving much if anything new for them. As previously said I don't think this is ultimately helpful for the town at this stage unless it actually gets some backing to it, but none seems forthcoming.

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Fact of the matter is I am not voting HellBooks today in any world and no argument would be convincing enough, it is objectively terrible given Scorpius' claim. I will also not vote Scorpius without a far better case on them, and even then it'd have to be mind-blowing good for it to happen today. I don't believe such a case could possibly exist for Not_Mafia given their meta and playing standards, and will also not vote there today mostly in respect to Fire's claim and the excessive ease in pushing them. Currently I would prefer to vote Keeper or Toogeloo, neither have been doing much this entire game and could easily be coasting (in this order, Keeper's responses to being poked about their general lack of content has been worse between the two). No I don't have a lock on scum #3 yet, nor many clues on who that would be as of this time. I believe passing the day to night stands a good chance of not being an instant game over, but has little to yield short of fewer town needing to agree on the scum. I doubt the existence of an SK, Night 2's kill count is too clean and Night 1 didn't have any more kills despite there being an additional Vigi insinuating that a Vigi also shot the nightkill target/hit a protected Andante as the most likely actions. If anyone has pocketed me it'd be my own actions putting myself into Tejate's pocket more likely than not.

Horse's 1520

I've read this 3 times. I keep coming up with "feel bad for me,I'm late game(again I know) scum and I don't know how to make you guys see me as town".

[Scorpious]

Why do you think there's absolutely a scum between us?

Well, I’ve read fire as scum this whole game. And someone, Maybe Toog? Was talking about town side being kinda meh with the state of the game. They were accused of ATe, I disagree..

I feel that.

I’m as good as dead tonight or blocked anyway so my motivation has been sapped. I have no idea what happened with the neighbors . I’m almost more interested about getting this over with and seeing what the hell happened.

But the short answer, is that you guys are still really into this while as much as I want to I can’t find the oomph.
The math isn’t there for us to mislim either.. so I think at least one of you is scum,, GTH I’d say just fire before both of you. But that is exactly why I’m hoping we get some 1v1 from you. I don’t see me going NM tonight. And obviously I’m not going with hell.. again math. Poe puts a high probability as one of you being scum, probabilities of you both are up their too..

[Scorpious]

There almost has to be a strongman kill capability. Probably like 2 goons an rb and maybe a mafia JOAT.

I can’t be invincible no way..

[Scorpious]

@Scorpious

May I ask who would be and not be in your elim pool so far?

Keeper
Fire
Horse
NM(because NM)…

I think one for sure again GTH Fire.

I can’t shake. “Let’s mass claim I’m VT”

[Scorpious]

I don't like how ur hiding behind a gimmick.

Was this a real part of your thought process?

[Scorpious]

Frogsterking (10): hellbooks, Save The Dragons, Tejate Raichu,

Cat Scratch Fever, Dwlee99, Radical Rat,

MagikHorse, Toogeloo, Scorpious, Not_Mafia

I would take out Magikhorse also form this wagon being scum. Frogster interactions with him tells me no way they are aligned.

pedit i have no read on scorpious i just think frogster wagon has at least 1-2 scum on it and if its anyone those two would be my prime fos

STD im feeling ehh about but i think ill get a solid feel for hopefully today.
Hellbooks is okay
I am not worried about you

How much of this wagon is still in your scum pool?

[Scorpious]

2days and no wagons? What did I miss?

Side note I well and truely blew myself apart this weekend to the point there's a Strawman of me now.

Did you skip over the part where this is likely lim or lose?

I'm more certain that it's Mislim and Lose over Lim or Lose myself, given the even number of people.

Why does this post read scummy? Why?

Can you break down the numbers as you see them?

[Scorpious]

Time to elim someone

Agreed. who’s your pool?

[Scorpious]

Time to elim someone

Agreed. who’s your pool?

Stay Classy my dude..


Your mum

2days and no wagons? What did I miss?

Side note I well and truely blew myself apart this weekend to the point there's a Strawman of me now.

Did you skip over the part where this is likely lim or lose?

I'm more certain that it's Mislim and Lose over Lim or Lose myself, given the even number of people.

Why does this post read scummy? Why?

Can you break down the numbers as you see them?

I don't see why it's scummy unless you're insinuating I have TMI, even though I explained this previously. Just as a refresher and to expand on my earlier thoughts in extra detail, consider this:

• -4 people died Night 1 to 4 Vigilantes and 1 Mafia factional kill. This means there is a missing shot somewhere, and I believe the two most likely scenarios are that it either hit Andante with Doctor protection (due to the fact that Andante was generally considered suspicious to several players Day 1 but was read as Town by Hellbooks who claimed protection there) or that a Vigilante and the Mafia chose the same target.
  -4 people died Night 2 to 3 Vigilantes and 1 Mafia factional kill. This is the expected amount of kills with this number of attacking roles, with no more or less than expected.

Given that all the Vigilantes were in a hood with one another the odds of two vigilantes shooting the same person is nonexistant, and with no unusual or "extra" kills nothing at all hints at a Serial Killer or any other Neutral Killing role at this time. With 8 people remaining today that would leave 5 Town and 3 Mafia as the expected split (since 4-4 would be a loss already), which supposedly contains a Roleblocker/JOAT among the Mafia faction given your blocked N1 action.

5 Town and 3 Mafia is Mislim and Lose, since the day could be passed into night and, with no living Vigilantes left among the Town, it should be impossible for 2 Town to die during the night. Passing the day would simply result in tomorrow turning into a 7 player Lim or Lose, with 4 Town and 3 Mafia remaining among them.

If you can't get where I'm coming from after that, then I've got utterly nothing for you.

No this all makes perfect sense.

[Scorpious]

I suppose, we should figure this out by tomorrow. Let's rip the bandaid off before the deadline is 24 hours away.

My would 100% lim pool at the moment is: Toog, Keeper.
My no lim pool: hellbooks, Scorpious.

Keeper has shown me nothing as town today. Keeper or Fire for me..

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Keeper

Maybe we get more with a hint of pressure..

[Scorpious]

Scorpious, hellbooks, would you be okay with me just voting it right now? If we're on the wrong track here then I think we've lost anyways. I'll accept the consequences of a scum quickhammer.

I'd prefer you give at least a stated time limit, doesnt have to be long... just my opinion

[Scorpious]

Also, could we all agree to vote fast night once we have our flip? If we end up losing on a townflip I want to at least get to the juicy neighbor thread to watch what just how much iocane powder the vigilantes were ingesting.

agreed

[Scorpious]

because NM will hammer anything

[Scorpious]

Fine with me..

[Scorpious]

I'll be commuting when the timer expires.

I'd be happy to hear from keeper before that, just know Keeper if you are reading this you will be almost instantly hammered. We all know this.

[Scorpious]

I got what I asked for, with a fair response as well..

UNVOTE:

[Scorpious]

Apparently I needed a prod for this game.

I'm still fully committed to eliming Not Mafia here. I think of the other two wagons, I'd endorse the Keeper wagon. I honestly feel like Tejate's WIM is golden here and don't think I'm interested in that at all.

Could I see a NM, Keeper, Fire team.

Sure, why not.

Can you summarize your case on NM?

[Scorpious]

NM needs a case?

In this situation. yes.

[Scorpious]

especially if you are just going to park a vote when we have eliminated exactly 0 scum..

And I'm just asking for a summary, "just because" is fine on D1,but not in this whatever acronym situation we are in right now. Do you have thoughts on anyone else. You kinda just parked your vote,and left.. surely you have some input. I'm going to be honest. My read on you hinges on how you answer this question,and the game is getting boring. I'm not afreaid to vote anyone at this point if I dont read them as town. So... again.. whats your summary of the case on him . like I said "just because" does not fly right now.

[Scorpious]

I have an answer, but it hinges on something I've already deemed unlikely for today so the connection goes with it.

We have also eliminated exactly 1 scum, thank you very much. Frogster was a player, as short as his lifespan was.

i stand corrected, just seems like so long ago.

[Scorpious]

scorpious what is your read on tej

Can I wait for Toog's answer before answering? Up til now town, but I'm trying to sort something in my head.

[Scorpious]

NM / Fire / Keeper???

i like this the more i think about it

This is not far from what I am thinking currently,but I need an answer from Toog before making any concrete agreements here.

[Scorpious]

I got what I asked for, with a fair response as well..

UNVOTE:

did you think it was a town response

enough to unvote, not enough to read as town.. yet

[Scorpious]

NM / Fire / Keeper???

i like this the more i think about it

This is not far from what I am thinking currently,but I need an answer from Toog before making any concrete agreements here.

Fire/Keeper/Toog

at least lie to me Toog...

[Scorpious]

I am NOT accepting a parked vote with no case coming from town in this situation.. Not the least bit

VOTE: Toog

[Scorpious]

I have a guilty on NM.

Lie

Is that a good enough lie?

No because you claimed VT, you are not a Town PR

Ok.

Ok

[Scorpious]

You give me a town case, I'll self vote.

you just made it for me.

Lim all liars

[Scorpious]

I have a guilty on NM.

Town case for NM.

What is your role?

[Scorpious]

Yeah I'm good

[Scorpious]

If you are town, the entire game should come down on you for throwing, honestly..

[Scorpious]

I think this game has cast the most trolls and/or shit posters of any game I've ever had the the pleasure to be in.

like I said. It's not trolling at this point. It's throwing.. If you're town.. I don't see an '09 doing that..

[Scorpious]

like I said Toog/Keep/Fire is my pool.

At this point I'm very very confident in town Tej and will not be voting there. I think N_M is town too..

[Scorpious]

Keeper/Fire

would you like to address Toog's latests comments?

[Scorpious]

I'd rather vote Keeper than Toog

put it down then.. you've said this a few times. Time to act. I'll even do it first.

Just Remember 3 votes in this game is essentially E-1 with Tank out there..

VOTE: Keeper

[Scorpious]

UNVOTE:

Hmm, not the reaction I was expecting Hell..

[Scorpious]

This deadline is happening at about 5am for me if that timer is right.

What are we doing?

[Scorpious]

Got a case on FB beyond "I thought he was scummy D1 and D2", and some reason why that sort of paranoia isn't more likely to come from town?

That's what it'll take to throw my vote down there. We've had too much "this is a thing" and not enough "this is why this is a thing".

How about we vote Fire , and if he flips Red we come after you next. This seems like you’re just stalling.

I was hoping hellbrooks was gonna follow up on wanting to vote keeper, so I encouraged it. Nothing… idk what to make of that.
My pool is still fire, keeper, Toog… like, I really hate how Toog just decided to become troll.
Like. Damn, man. Now? That’s the only thing keeping a slight shade of green. I just think he doesn’t gaf anymore and is just whatever at this point. Fire been coasting this whole day. Keeper, This is why I don’t like gimmicks I feel like you might be the closest to town but the damn gimmick defaults me to thinking you are scum, I’m sorry. The gimmick does not help your cause.

You want a case on fire, Horse?

He was saying he was scum for awhile… call him out on it and laugh…
Don’t forget. I’m still a cop… and we supposedly have a Dr.. ok mind made up.

VOTE: Fire

This is my final vote. I’m falling asleep as I type this..

[Scorpious]

Dirty win with that deadline time..

GG

[Scorpious]

The bp cop claim would never slide if a traitor is known

but it did..

Did I even have one vote on me after that?

[Scorpious]

Also Scorp, I think Koba means if the VTs actually knew that. We were running with the assumption of no traitor in the hood for most of that day, I was really hard pushing to get opinions on that because there was absolutely no way your claim made sense if that was the case.

thats why I waited, I wanted to know if anyone from the hood was left, I felt with town having so many guns it would make sense for a town PR to be bulletproof.

Theoretically the game could have ended night 1.. So it made sense

[Scorpious]

i mean c'mon we were just 3 goons,, lol

[Scorpious]

ty Pooky for modding

Indeed,thank you for the Game.