Micro 1047: Vengeball! -- Game Over!

[Kcdaspot]

Too many MUFFIAS in this game.

Trick is TO FIND TROWN!!

currently reading... who wants to explain this trainwreck?

[Kcdaspot]

im gonna need to re read like 3 damn times just get a grip on this game...

[Kcdaspot]

also if i had to choose blast or pass on kdcaspots first post i would BLAST for the record

shut yer ass till i can read you ya squawking geese.

[Kcdaspot]

FIRST

only mafia cant count

[post=Vanderscamp ]Vanderscamp [/post]

gg ez

Mine
VOTE: Hockyfan
It is known that all hockey fans are scum.

omgus

VOTE: Bell
hockey fans are always town

Also, Koba LOCKTOWN for not voting me(not serious)

Cuz ur my godfather duh..

rightttt i forgot

can people talk pls otherwise I ahv e to townbin eveyones who talked so far

worm = mafia gg ez

I'm intensely sick today, and habe been sick the past few days but it got worse today

Covid tested myself today and it's negative tho

hope u feel better soon

*pokes the thread with a stick* there are two spammers in this game. Koba and I.
Do not town bin koba.
He will beat you to death with a bad read.

fine i'll null bin koba. happy?

worm = mafia gg ez

NOT TRUE

!!

I was made MUFFIA once and it WASN"T a GG or EASY AT ALL!!

I ddont believe u

yall letting this shit slide?

VOTE: Hockeyfan

Mans so fluffy Gabriel Iglasias looks thin.

[Kcdaspot]

I feel like you tryin to FATEpost too much Koba.

[Kcdaspot]

VOTE: Kcdaspot

Mine

and who in the sly fuck are you?

[Kcdaspot]

cute. But in order to get shit done round here i need pressure. I just really hate hockeys post series there... coulda gone so much better than just dumb bantz.

[Kcdaspot]

Also i just got done with a long ass vacay on a big ass ship and i need to get my mind back in my skull...

Ultimatly ur rite. dumb vote is shit UNVOTE:

I need A FUCK ton of more data before barging in.

[Kcdaspot]

I still hate hockey thoo Dk needs meds and Bell needs a mimosa

I need more players posting.

[Kcdaspot]

goddamn its almost as if i'm a rational adult or something.

[Kcdaspot]

Hi i didn't read anything

VOTE: HockeyFan

[Kcdaspot]

Nightless is where scum want to bus for cred to avoid lims since they can't nightkill their threats

Wrong.

Mafia wants to kill townie fast, because it's half of way for win. No need to bus.

I agree with this. it's why i wanna chew this game i bit slow.

He seems a bit kill happy as scum.
Also, his posting looks the same.
Plus, reasons that aren't important, interesting, or useful.

Meta is a bad arguement like 75% of the time.

I'm suspiscious of Dk trying to hurry the game along. I get why as i've had the same playstyle as town in the past but to try and force those reads this quickly I'd want A fucking scumteam to burn down first. in this case i wouldn't go SADGHSDGSJDGAPOSDGHAWSDOGLASDGPOST unless i pegged a GF.

[Kcdaspot]

Too many MUFFIAS in this game.

Trick is TO FIND TROWN!!

where is this guy?

[Kcdaspot]

Yo dwlee's iso is so bad... I think i found a goon in them. I'm mainly looking at the quick turn in posts 64 and 67

cuz of this i think koba is town... I dont think you interact with your GF that much.

I am not voting a goon d1. I want a GF. gimme some time peeps.

[Kcdaspot]

for godfathers i'm looking for meekness and/or forced bravado, in general. dwlee looks hesitant to engage meaningfully with the game, but they know they can't just go ghost and risk drawing gf suspicion for inactivity. their only real game-related comment (aside from the shaky koba read) is a tiny little suggestion of hockeyfan scum, which even on its own i don't like. the worm is a shtick but it still fits the bill for leaning on it to force content.

kcda and vander both voted obvtown hockeyfan and kcda's framing in particular was gross. actually looking it over this is making me think kcda/dr worm is a more likely pair than not. looking over vander's iso there's actually not a lot else here I hate but I still like my solve.

bruh you could read for a GF yourself by your own damn definition.

this is literally your only post of substance all game.

[Kcdaspot]

Yo dwlee's iso is so bad... I think i found a goon in them. I'm mainly looking at the quick turn in posts 64 and 67

cuz of this i think koba is town... I dont think you interact with your GF that much.

I am not voting a goon d1. I want a GF. gimme some time peeps.

67 was me saying I like Koba on a personal level. How is that AI?

... if this is true then i can read context to save my life.

what your read on that slot then 1-5 5 being obvscum?

[Kcdaspot]

EBWOP: I CAN'T read context to save my life.

[Kcdaspot]

meanwhile ive been ignoring vander so if y'all 'scuse.

[Kcdaspot]

Vander reading null, and can help me by giving an opinion on Hockeyfan. any metric you like

[Kcdaspot]

Damn I'm so far outta practice for this forum is depressing.

[Kcdaspot]

Man enchant is bait.

Like im gonna pop a ragelynch on him sometime and they gonna flip town cuz they never got to elaborate and/or put a good post up to get a read.

[Kcdaspot]

Like im gonna pop a ragelynch on him sometime

Friendly reminder that the "L" word should no longer be used per site rules:

viewtopic.php?f=9&t=87190

The preferred verbiage is "lim" or "launch" or "yeet" or anything without similar unfortunate connotations.

Thanks you're all wonderful <3

when did.... what... i mean understand but im sad

[Kcdaspot]

Vander reading null, and can help me by giving an opinion on Hockeyfan. any metric you like

I dislike hockey saying that dwlee/koba/bell we're all town because from their pov that should be very unlikely, and hockey should have pretty good reasoning to think that's true, which I didn't get from anything hockey or those three said.
I don't hate it but I definitely didn't like it.

its mianly based on tone/gut def not concrete yet. Im starting to not like Kcda anymore tho lol

yo i thought you read me as scum anyway.

[Kcdaspot]

Yo dwlee's iso is so bad... I think i found a goon in them. I'm mainly looking at the quick turn in posts 64 and 67

cuz of this i think koba is town... I dont think you interact with your GF that much.

I am not voting a goon d1. I want a GF. gimme some time peeps.

You're really giving a read that someone is town because they're not aligned with someone you think is scum?
For serious?

i'd like to see your follow-up to this

if they were a bit more in line with each other i'd be inclined to think otherwise... i just dont think koba is maf aligned because thier interactions toward dwlee are geniunely townleaning. you dont try that as scum unless you are confident and you have that as a specific gameplan and EVEN then it's hard to fake. trust, i've tried.

i dont see someone aligned with oppo-maf acting like this either, and so, town

[Kcdaspot]

i mean at some point it's bending over and begging people to look at yer dirty side and no way you commit that hard lest you dont have anything to hide.

[Kcdaspot]

Even if you do disagree with it, btw, do you agree that it's possible that some scum who disagree with you might genuinely be pushing on people they think are mafia?

even still you risk a scumslip when you try so hard to get someone else lynched. It is FUUUUUUUCKING difficult (y'all cool with cussing right sorry didnt ask before) to scumhunt as scum because you are also burdened with being the informed minority.

ESPECIALLY in a setup like this that discourages bussing you have to be careful as fuck with what you say and do. I just don't see that caution from Koba. THATS why they town.

[Kcdaspot]

I've decided that Dwlee is probably town.
3 more to go.

I get done with typing my last post arguing why someone is town and i have to turn around and say actively townhunting is dumb cuz poe is also dumb.

[Kcdaspot]

i am real close to wanting bell's slot outta here.

[Kcdaspot]

can... can i kill it.... please... please... I can't tell if it's trying to live wants a mercy kill.... please.

[Kcdaspot]

Vander, no response to me?

Bell, you really sure im the target today?

I'm glad about that vc cuz if i didnt wait i'd be on a wagon with bulge which im uncomfortable with.

[Kcdaspot]

BELLL and KOBA both have FAKE PERSONALITIES
My brain not sure if SCUMZ or just get jollies from being COOOOL INTRENET DUDES??

I don't really consider this side of me as fake. /:
Is this your way of saying that you don't have a read on either of us?

I understand where they're coming from with this read, you sound overly cautious and Koba sounds overly confident in a way that seems unlikely to be how either of you actually behave IRL.
I'm not sold on it being AI.

ah here it is excuse me.

[Kcdaspot]

Vander, no response to me?

Bell, you really sure im the target today?

I'm glad about that vc cuz if i didnt wait i'd be on a wagon with bulge which im uncomfortable with.

Yeah, I don't agree, but your reasoning is believable.

Your reasoning seems to basically be "I have a lot of difficulty hunting genuinely for scum when I'm scum," I think it's likely that you believe this and it's possible you believe other people are like that as well.

you need a mindset, like you need to be built different to pull it off.

[Kcdaspot]

VOTE: kdcaspot

you just gonna hit me wit this no reasons stated huh?

[Kcdaspot]

I wonder if it says something that Enchant mentioned a coin flip.
It just occurred to me that there's a clean 50% chance of hitting scum this game which is actually pretty amazing when you think about it.

dont forget the fact if we lim a townie they have a further chance to shoot a scum

I dont like that reasoning... I want a gf down now. (if i understand the rules) winning a 5 v 2 is a HELL of a lot better than 3 v 2 v 2

The latter might as well be unwinnable. A GF vote now seals a least mis-lim.

[Kcdaspot]

Sir what even ARE you? I was convinced you were scummy in your last string of posts now you just going whereever the FUCK

might as well... worm, if you're coherent enough give me your thoughts on bulge

[Kcdaspot]

What is this hunt for godfather for?

There's no big difference in elimming Goon>Godfather, just opposite is faster.


Hunt mafia overall, don't try to hunt for Godfathers exactly, duh.

the advantage it grants town is too massive to ignore. Hitting a goon means losing a valuable town slot and in this setup thats huge. town cant venge off of mafkill.

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Because setup is... Uh. Nightless. Mafia can't kill.

Therefore blasting anyone who looks like maf is preferable play than tryings to outsmart self. Even if we kill Goon, it's still good.

based upon probability... and if we just take a goon then maf CAN kill. at least as I understand it.

Mod: can you help clarify this?

[Kcdaspot]

They manage to be just stubborn enough that their backpedals don’t come off as obviously fake.

whoa whoa whoa where did I back pedal other than the Worm thing?

[Kcdaspot]

They manage to be just stubborn enough that their backpedals don’t come off as obviously fake.

whoa whoa whoa where did I back pedal other than the Worm thing?

205 vanders calls out the logical flaw in your koba read, which you never directly address in your ensuing explanation.

but i did address it in the other posts you linked.

[Kcdaspot]

You were just shady to me before, looking like a forced null, now you hittin me with the Louisiana sweet heat not expecting a clap back.

[Kcdaspot]

They manage to be just stubborn enough that their backpedals don’t come off as obviously fake.

whoa whoa whoa where did I back pedal other than the Worm thing?

205 vanders calls out the logical flaw in your koba read, which you never directly address in your ensuing explanation.

but i did address it in the other posts you linked.

sure, but not directly. you didn't acknowledge the setup error you made, you just added more words to seemingly explain it. not a "ah crap, I forgot this was multiball! my bad", not even a "I see what you think you're seeing here but let me elaborate", it's like you were hoping we'd all assume that's what you were trying to say in the first place, when that is clearly not the case. I don't buy it for one minute.

IT FUCKING DOESNT MATTER IF ITS MULTIBALL, SCUM KNOWS THEY SCUM, EVEN IF THEY ARE ON DIFFERENT TEAMS THAT DON'T KNOW EACH OTHER THETY STILL HAVE THE BURDEN OF INFORMATION.

yo... you, nah im done with you

VOTE: Bulge Puttin words in my mouth trying to paint a scum where theres not get outtta here.

[Kcdaspot]

cuz of this i think koba is town... I dont think you interact with your GF that much.

explain your logic here as completely as you can

I already said this. Koba is putting themselves out there almost as if in naivete. This is a man that doesn't know alignments to me, couple that with the way they interacting with nearly everyone in thread, tell me that they are town aligned not looking for 1 scumteam but 2.the cadence and energy of their posts are in fact hard to replicate as scum from EITHER side, the bell convo seals it. Am i gonna sheep thier shit? hell nah. but I can be confident that he's town. he doesn't have any burden of information in his posts what so ever.

[Kcdaspot]

wait but if we hit a goon they get a kill right?

[Kcdaspot]

wait but if we hit a goon they get a kill right?

scratch that... I thought we were operating on psudo-lylo.

it still doesnt change my aruguement by much.. just the fact that hitting a goon just nets us a possible 4v2v1 rather a 3v2v1 possibility like i thought.

I still think koba town thoo for the reasons i stated.

[Kcdaspot]

< haven't played for like 9 years.

[Kcdaspot]

why are you town btw?

[Kcdaspot]

yes thats nice knowing hexadecimal but it doesnt answer the question.

[Kcdaspot]

bruh yall being stupid bout a scum read on me, Why in the heavenly fuck would i cripple myself? If I as scum successfully hunt down and lim the other teams godfather what happenes next? people start hunting MY ass. if yer scum yer goon hunting NOT GF hunting, cuz you can use the goon for a bit to ride the town to a possible 1v2v1 where YOU have majority. Getting your opposing GF killed only makes the game harder.

PEDIT: Also, facts^

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on top of the fact you then have to dodge 3 FUCKING VENGEKILLS to win yeah naw as a scum I'd just wagon randomly.

[Kcdaspot]

That is actually a point. I wanna see this.

@everyone: you just got limmed, who you taking with?

[Kcdaspot]

for me its a d3 roll between Dwlee Enchant and Worm

[Kcdaspot]

not it.

[Kcdaspot]

is enchant GF koba?

[Kcdaspot]

for me its a d3 roll between Dwlee Enchant and Worm

Good odds!


Go throw.

whats your kill list?

[Kcdaspot]

hmm

yeah i think im coming around on kdca as town here

answer me.

[Kcdaspot]

hey, whoever is goon but not with enchant ^ free quickhammer :3

This will KILL THE WORM!!

Dr Worm is ready to DIE for your SINS KOOBA!!

also need a kill list from you too.

If you got limmed right now who's your target?

[Kcdaspot]

The question was sparked my curiosity. the logic was following koba's in that town has a target list ready to go. town is NOT vinilla after all and knows who they want dead. a how does kill lists help scum?

It's mainly a reaction ploy to who thought about their kills cuz scum wouldn't necessarily. upon face value I literally think the only people that would call it scummy have something to hide other than the vengekill.

thanks for being my tunnel target. Out with you.

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I was also hoping for a list from enchant now it's l-1

But you'll do nicely.

PEDIT: Those lists change with the gamestate.Providing a day 1 list isn't scummy while say a d3 or d4 list IS with the game literally on the line.

[Kcdaspot]

Well, unless you're enchant in which case, it honestly doesn't matter.
My reads won't change unless the players do by posting scummy or townie stuff.

RN, I would just shoot in the "not helping us win pile" and hope there's scum in it because we're screwed anyway if there's not. I can't carry the entire town myself.
But I never expect to be eliminated anyway, you'd only ever even know I'm town when I started threatening people with getting shot if I got wagon'd.
Well not really, I don't think it's much of a secret.

i've said it before enchant is a bait lim and yall gonna regret it.

[Kcdaspot]

i dont want this lim.

[Kcdaspot]

NEVER HAVE I HAVE EVER BEEN SO HAPPY TO BE WRONG.

FUCK YES.

[Kcdaspot]

Back on my shit here

VOTE: Bulge

[Kcdaspot]

i think koba was the target to take to lylo for red team Referincing 69

[Kcdaspot]

NOPE UNVOTE:

FUCK DAT LOLLIM BULLSHIT

[Kcdaspot]

VOTE: worm
Worm->hockey

Consider: Blue squad is doing the opposite of red.

[Kcdaspot]

idm voitng bulge anymroe lol, as much as it

pains me to do, i'll sheep KCDA

VOTE: Bulge

E-2 btw

Oooooooo i want you dead now.

VOTE: hockeyisacrapsportanyway

[Kcdaspot]

idm voitng bulge anymroe lol, as much as it

pains me to do, i'll sheep KCDA

VOTE: Bulge

E-2 btw

Oooooooo i want you dead now.

VOTE: hockeyisacrapsportanyway

Why is this WORSER than MY VOTE??

Please explain!!

It's the bolded. why oh why would you ever make a roundabout reason to wagon someone like that?

i hated that quick wagon and i'm glad it didn't complete.

i'm betting that you're the goon here and Hockey is the GF.

Bulge is 3rd on my list and they are probably a goon anyway if they are.

[Kcdaspot]

Nice oppursutnic vote from KCDA.

I still have like Koba,Worm, Bell town? so i'll just shoot in Kcda/Bulge. Vanders is like null to me

yousoscumbrah

[Kcdaspot]

FIre away bitch, like you even have a vengeshot anyway

[Kcdaspot]

Sweetie dont argue with the scums, it's like trying to talk to random people in Chicago, you'll just get stabbed for it and they'll blame you anyway.

[Kcdaspot]

OMGUS is a helluva drug man.

[Kcdaspot]

idm voitng bulge anymroe lol, as much as it

pains me to do, i'll sheep KCDA

VOTE: Bulge

E-2 btw

Oooooooo i want you dead now.

VOTE: hockeyisacrapsportanyway

Why is this WORSER than MY VOTE??

Please explain!!

also unironically the best post this guy has had all game.

[Kcdaspot]

This^ person spitting facts and Cheetos all over their keyboard

[Kcdaspot]

i thought the kill WAS compulsive?

[Kcdaspot]

i dont think anybody in the lineup would choose to give it up... but it IS a smart play, and gives a extra phase if the kill is a miss....

theres me not reading rules again.

[Kcdaspot]

i dont think anybody in the lineup would choose to give it up... but it IS a smart play, and gives a extra phase if the

intended

kill is a miss....

theres me not reading rules again.

EBWOP^

another way to say it, instead of gambling on your instincts you could trust the town and give them more time to work with... if the kill is a miss we're in ELo phase and thus become vanilla.

You have to be SO SURE

[Kcdaspot]

I am NOT HOOKEY'S girlfriend

oooo good argument i'll hafta reconsider everything now.

Narrator:

It wasn't a good argument.

[Kcdaspot]

idm voitng bulge anymroe lol,

as much as it pains me to do, i'll sheep KCDA

VOTE: Bulge

E-2 btw

^

What exactly does this prove? I sheeped someone who was in my POE on another person who was in my POE, oh noes!

i'll put in rainbow neon colors too if you miss it again.

[Kcdaspot]

vander needs to chime in at least but i have no idea who'd i'd ideally like to hammer...

also: note how hockey 180'd on me yet STILL votes bulge

[Kcdaspot]

EBWOP: Who, ideally, I'd like to see be the hammer on this wagon.

[Kcdaspot]

maybe it do be bell and hockey with hockey GF hahaha

Shoulda pushed worm while I was there

Anyway, I think kcda is buddying you. That’s the biggest red flag I’ve seen this day phase.

I can see that. However Koba has also been towntelling for me all game as well, i mean look my reaction to their D1. Plus with their logic has been similar to mine this phase.

Objectively speaking, its hard not to look at the interactions as just raw buddying. all i can say is that I'm town AF, Koba town AF, Get on the damn wagon.

[Kcdaspot]

if you thought i wasn't town why vote with me?

You LITERALLY MADE AN EXCUSE TO GET ON A WAGON.

not a damn chance town does that.

[Kcdaspot]

actively finding town is dumb.

koba's townread came as casual as ordering fast food on any given weekday.

[Kcdaspot]

all yall just "found 3/5 town" motherheffers, and PoEing scum.

Dumb as hell.

[Kcdaspot]

Koba why is bulge town anyway?

[Kcdaspot]

all yall just "found 3/5 town" motherheffers, and PoEing scum.

Dumb as hell.

lol

riveting commentary.

[Kcdaspot]

wow vander just come in here, read comprehensively but not comment on the current development wtg there brotha.

sry if thats a bit abrasive but i was expecting more.

[Kcdaspot]

whatever Vanders just said was pretty good lol, Bulge is probs someones GF here(one of my TRs probs but idrc)

unless i read wrong the man practically didnt say shit.

[Kcdaspot]

Scum don't have NKs obviously so I feel like it's way too conservative to not give reads to not inform them who to push on.

I agree

I kind of buy this

How does the game advance ANY from THESE?

[Kcdaspot]

599 MAYBE but thats just mindset speculation

the other 2 is Generic "GOOd POINT" w/o commenting on the wagon sitch on hockey.

[Kcdaspot]

as far as votes go they did the... oh god i forgot what its called. on hockey and then parked it on the enchant wagon and went passive AF...

i've read that slot as town... am I wrong here?

[Kcdaspot]

Koba: consider Vander/Bulge team

Hockey is still my lim but now im seeing a new direction here.

[Kcdaspot]

I feel like vander and bulge have been running parallel like me and koba 'cept i haven't found anything from vander that gives a position on bulge which is worrying.

[Kcdaspot]

at the end of the day hockey is my jam thoo.

[Kcdaspot]

no one is venge killing today


tomorrow is when town should be vengekilling if we mess up again and the eliminated person chooses to.

no, i dont think i like that.

hold the phone the role pm says we have a vengekill until AN ELo phase

MOD: Does the above include MELo?

[Kcdaspot]

if it does it's use it or lose it TODAY.

[Kcdaspot]

So a MELO shot is on the table.

but why shoot in MELO and risk a instant loss?

Even we get it wrong today we can think about it next phase and still lynch right.

IF the MELO shot is wrong GG, i dont want that. I'd rather see a shot today.

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I know why townies shouldnt shoot unless the goon is eliminated but lets hear it hockey, what makes you agree with shooting?

Only 2 scenarios venge should consider shooting:
1) both goons are dead and its only godfather remaining(even so accelerating the game is bad)
2) mafia have majority over town(was relevant when red mafia was alive)

i just dont want to go Holster>miss

Shooting today is better than tomorrow.

[Kcdaspot]

scum are the ones who want to have townies shooting rn the most because it means if they *do* get shot they dont auto lose

thats hopeful.

[Kcdaspot]

i really wish worm did more substance with in his posts...

you ARE allowed to have more than one line a post.

PEDIT:

[Kcdaspot]

I "ran" because it was a speedwagon that spooked me.

2 votes back to back like that cannot be legit. no matter how i look at it and for reasons stated hockey's little OH NO IM ON A WAGON WITH A PERSON I THINK IS SCUMMY malarky made me go onto him for it.

the fact that literally no one but me and koba went on him out of 4-5 active players says to me i've hit paydirt.

[Kcdaspot]

i'm like 70 to 90% sure that this is the other GF.

[Kcdaspot]

the fact that literally no one but me and koba went on him out of 4-5 active players says to me i've hit paydirt.

Please explain this

since the start of the day, the only 2 that got on this wagon was me and Koba... other than us theres been like 2-3 active posters yet NONE of them really commented on what i've caught him on, let alone get on the wagon

this tells me that i've more then likely found scum even better that the partner hasn't bussed...the only thing that would catch me off guard rn is if Koba!scum but thats just not plausible.

i I genuinly feel that this is a correct elim.

if yer town worm, which i slightly doubt, you get on this.

[Kcdaspot]

the fact that literally no one but me and koba went on him out of 4-5 active players says to me i've hit paydirt.

Please explain this

btw the silly poster just posted w/o his gimmick.

i'm shook.

[Kcdaspot]

idm voitng bulge anymroe lol,

as

much

as

it

pains

me

to

do,

i'll

sheep

KCDA

VOTE: Bulge

E-2 btw

I said i 'd do it.

[Kcdaspot]

Above was @ 670

[Kcdaspot]

... i dont like that vote naked, can you elaborate on it when you can? mabbe whn you feelin better.

[Kcdaspot]

Resist was successful!!

no response to my explanation?

[Kcdaspot]

FUCKING GOD DAMN

i've been trying to find any sort of traction of rereading.

[Kcdaspot]

Skip.

what was this?

just a word at the end of their post all vanilla like.

[Kcdaspot]

I need Not_mafia to be able to give thier full thoughts on the game.

[Kcdaspot]

Why did i expect anything.

[Kcdaspot]

My instinct is telling me to go back on bulge but after Hockey's flip i have like NO confidence.

[Kcdaspot]

Vand reads as town and thus i'm not liking a NM push.

[Kcdaspot]

i also now have to reevaluate Koba. that whole D2 could objectively be seen as nothing more than a giant buddy-sheep up to me.

[Kcdaspot]

I'm begging you NM. Please give anything of substance about this game. There are TOO GODDAMN MANY people posting minimal shit and just not partaking in this.

[Kcdaspot]

717 is USUALLY SCUM saying this "wow guyz maybe I should start shading the player I've been buddying before it's too late"

With how long they were on with me on my wagon and with how wrong i was, my confidence in my reads are pretty bad.

Just think of that post as if it's just me telling myself that i need to reset my thinking from the ground up.

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I don't know for sure if this is correct, NM/vand has ben on both Elims.

I'm running on the following: at least 1 scum was on enchants wagon, and only 1 scum was on the hockey wagon.

I base that on how much heat you'd get on the mislim and how much cred you could theoretically get on the red GF lim.

All this is trying to tell me that it's bulge and worm but i am still too uncertain to move on it.

[Kcdaspot]

I don't know for sure if this is correct, NM/vand has ben on both Elims.

I'm running on the following:

at least 1 scum was on enchants wagon, and only 1 scum was on the hockey wagon.

I base that on how much heat you'd get on the mislim and how much cred you could theoretically get on the red GF lim.

A

ll this is trying to tell me that it's bulge and worm

but i am still too uncertain to move on it.

Bolded is what i'm at least half sure of, if that

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Bulge also had good content posts this page. further mudding my read.

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Oh fuck. Nvm. I’m out.

you should replace out at this point if your stomache is hurting you that bad.

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towncase urself

demanding people towncaseing themselves is NOT a towny thing to do.

Their actions and words can speak for themselves. there's pressure and there's dumb shit. this is the latter.

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and meta casing is bad.

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i just simply disagree with it with all of my being regardless personal track records.

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and no one else says anything ever.

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you know what... you know what.

Callin NM bluff here

VOTE: worm

i dont care about winning or losing anymore i just need stuff to happen. worm is scum we need this guy off the table.

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bell had me fooled

at least i had it right that blue maf was doing the opposite of red maf so thats good.

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BALLS WITH VENGEANCE