Grandest Idea Mafia [Endgame]

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Everyone pissed about discarded IC.

I am pissed about discarded Town Bulletproof Nuclear Bomb.

Are there powers more important than immortality?

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Before i forget.


I am Miller.

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Why would you CHOOSE Miller?

Stupid question.

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tweet r u groupscum u can tell me if u r u know

of course

if i were groupscum i would definitely have told u

u are a trustworthy friend that i can share my deepest sekrits with

Pooky is evil, please whisper your secrets me instead.

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well TLich & Ircher have like 1000+ posts each so they're the resident experts

I did forget about that little bit

Wait so one of my roles actually randed out of the entire thread huh?? Now I think about it that's pretty neat

.....people always discard dark horse when i create it. I just wanna help the obscure factions out!

Because this role is not useful.

WHY join small faction which will be stomped?

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well TLich & Ircher have like 1000+ posts each so they're the resident experts

I did forget about that little bit

Wait so one of my roles actually randed out of the entire thread huh?? Now I think about it that's pretty neat

.....people always discard dark horse when i create it. I just wanna help the obscure factions out!

Because this role is not useful.

WHY join small faction which will be stomped?

Well, given the opportunity, it's what I'd want to do!

so I guess it's for people specifically like me who wanna play those groups

suspicious eyes

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Kinda scary just finishing Control and getting hard pocketed, and then getting town read by multiple people this game before I even post tbh.

locktown

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Eh okay.


Town, Town, Werewolf.

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I would pick Third Party if it was rolled.

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你 see any rules about cryptography?

Cryptography is explicitly against the rules, as per General Rules #1: Obey all site rules.

Since I see it getting brought up, I will ask a list-mod about the use of foreign languages, since that falls into a gray area IMO. For now, please don't use foreign languages until I have a list-mod opinion.

No anime language for you.

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Anime Language back again.

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Why would fleas discard be suspicious? Feels like more use for scum than town so the fact that was their discard is +town imo

only because town killing ability but limited reveal is kinda bad regardless so I don't think Flea is sus based on faer discard

The fuck

VOTE: TemportalLich

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i think the discard pile is a stupid thing t judge. i'll try my argument one last time and then some poor townies gonna get flashwagoned but at least i can say i tried
like bro.
the rules say that you literally COULD not get the alignment you wanted so what in the world does the discard pile even mean. like you could be like
role: vig day vig
alignment: town doctor
and end up being scum.
or you could have chosen two scum roles and end up being town

what does role discard/role cards even mean then. like andante discarded an ic, great do you all want to out a strong pr on day 1.
like i just dont get it because the discard pile does not say anything on day 1. why are we even looking at it so closely right now. like who knows if it will ever be useful but right now, it is definitely not useful. also i struggle to believe most of these role card alignment claims so i also think thats kinda dumb

like the issue is that i think there is potentially a way to make use of this info in the future, but right now? its an entire waste of time and waste of information that helps no one but evil factions.

like do you think discussing these discard piles and making people with "suspicious discards who might potentially be prs" claim is going to help scum or help town

/rant because i am very grumpy right now after sleeping like 4 hours and having to go to school.
right now is like noraa on fire angry not really at the game but um good rant environment also i dont want to go to school ugh ok rant over byw

I think japanese is more understandble than this.


Either way, i don't mind/care about Andante discard. Overall, Innocent Child suck. I am not even sure how it supposed to work, like what if Mafia get Innocent Child? Do they reveal as Town or Maf?
Discarding Bulletproof is something strange. Unless Flea is Unjester lol.

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Discards do matter. Alignments only get mod-shifted if the minimum requirements aren't met, and unless someone wants to claim that theirs was, we have no reason to just assume that happened.

(If youre town because of a realignment dont fucking claim because theres only 4 of us then LOL)

Evil Majority 1d

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Either way, i don't mind/care about Andante discard. Overall, Innocent Child suck. I am not even sure how it supposed to work, like what if Mafia get Innocent Child? Do they reveal as Town or Maf?
Discarding Bulletproof is something strange. Unless Flea is Unjester lol.

It's an illegal combo to pick a non-town alignment with Innocent Child as the role

Flea's discard is bulletproof 1-shot dayvig (essentially i think). I don't see how the benefits town more than scum. That sounds way more useful to scum to me

Bulletproof in Multiball is fantastic ability, especially with janitor dayvig in case you fucked up.

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Either way, i don't mind/care about Andante discard. Overall, Innocent Child suck. I am not even sure how it supposed to work, like what if Mafia get Innocent Child? Do they reveal as Town or Maf?
Discarding Bulletproof is something strange. Unless Flea is Unjester lol.

It's an illegal combo to pick a non-town alignment with Innocent Child as the role

I'm a Jester Innocent Child

Reveal.

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It's still great in scum's hands which begs the question if Flea is scum why did fae not use that as the role

Idk

Either fae role is ultimately powerful, or... Liked something more, even if less powerful.
Idk, i think everyone picked something they like regardless.

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What is bad with meg discard?

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i will admit my role.is worse than the role i discarded but also mine is more self protective bc i was killed early last gim for being obvtown and solving well. Also the role is just plain fun and i didnt wanna minmax to actually try to pull off what the role does LOL

Btw to be clear my role was able to actually fully verify anyones claim once they full claimed essentially because it would return *two* names.

I dont think i gain value from that role bc im likely n1 target

Why you will be n1 target if your role selfprotect.

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Interesting, what would happen if NM received Unjester?

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I feel like you're shading somebody.
Hmmm

What

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VOTE: Radical Rat

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Maybe not bad idea, considering there could be like half of anti-town roles.

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Maybe not bad idea, considering there could be like half of anti-town roles.

want to join my cult princess?

If you promise me win

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Maybe not bad idea, considering there could be like half of anti-town roles.

want to join my cult princess?

If you promise me win

i promise fun

Winning is fun for me

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i never lose

You have cult?

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Cool.

Now we need majority.

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The Best Pirate Krew to Ever Sail the Seven Seas:

Captain: Pooky
First Mate: Tweetie
Head Torturer: DkKoba
Sexy Female Side Character: Enchant
Head Bartender: Toogeloo
That Parrot that Nobody listens to: Roden
Professor of Plankology: MegAzumarill

So when we illegally download music?

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Also I'm pretty sure the last time pooky did this whole krew thing and was scum.

Pooky probably is scum.
~Ircher

Too late, Pirates now are majority.

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enchant is a strong voice but idk if they're a town or scum voice

needs more posts for me to decide - plus even if enchant was scum I still want emotion lemoned today

I didn't even use capslock, what you mean by strong voice?

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Hey NM, quickhammer go?

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VOTE: Emotional Calculus

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GG.

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UNVOTE:
VOTE: Emotional Calculus

Wait this is illegal

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Ok what i supposed to regret

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Gaming for Fun.

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No regrets for this elimination

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Hi, and what the fuck?

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I'm a JoAT with the following abilities

- Any normal role
- Cop
- Roleblock + Cop
- Roleblock

I used Roleblock + Cop on Pooky

i wasnt gonna reveal

but if he's gonna act like im evil theeennnn welp

What

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If Andante is SK, will she turn in Town Bulletproof Vigilante?

Or loses bonuses?

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Damn, having murderhobo working for LAW was so temtping.

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I dislike that MT result directly aimed to counter accusation.

While common sense require teammate to do that, it's hardly possible in clasterfuck with 4 kills.

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They claimed to have a shot of any normal role.

That literally can be a Gun shot

Lolbalance.

Yes, MT can use Vigilante if she not lying.

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Hmm.

Can MT use Innocent Child ability?

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MT what result you got?

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Should we ask Andante what she is?

What if she fucking condemner or jester.

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Imo if SK, we should aim.

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Who Andante should kill if SK?

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BORING.

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What about:

Pooky converts Andante
MT vigs Pooky
Andante stabs MT

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WAIT

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Let me use my Lawyer and write best vig role i could write.

So, if you can, use Vigilante. It also need to be:
Loud
Disloyal
Announcing

Idk for more i need check wiki.

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How it excludes, MT basically never said what result she got.

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How it excludes, MT basically never said what result she got.

She said mafia

Attention 0 from me.

I am willing to vote Roden, but i need clarify from Pooky/MT/Andante that they do what they need to do, so we don't end up with "Oh i missed that".

Pooky converts Andante
MT disloyal vig Pooky
Andante stab MT (or claim atleast so we don't hope on it)

Seems cool for me. Please confirm
@Pooky
@MT
@Andante

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POOKY CONFIRMATION, WILL YOU CONVERT ANDANTE, YES OR YES?

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How it excludes, MT basically never said what result she got.

She said mafia

Attention 0 from me.

I am willing to vote Roden, but i need clarify from Pooky/MT/Andante that they do what they need to do, so we don't end up with "Oh i missed that".

Pooky converts Andante
MT disloyal vig Pooky
Andante stab MT (or claim atleast so we don't hope on it)

Seems cool for me. Please confirm
@Pooky
@MT
@Andante

Are you serious

Meg and Tweet both got caught lying?? Meg literally scum slipped why would you vote me

Yea, that's why i want all of them disappear.

What about Meg did lie?

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Roden have valid point here, it's actually too fastpaced.

Either way, waiting for Andante AND POOKY WHO TOO BUSY TO SAY YES.

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Roden have valid point here, it's actually too fastpaced.

Either way, waiting for Andante AND POOKY WHO TOO BUSY TO SAY YES.

i literally dont even know if andante can be recruited

Andante is Third Party according to Toog.

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I have no partners within the players who aren't Roden!

Ahhshhshshqkqj

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Actually, i am to naive to expect SK to claim, that's truth.

But if she is NOT SK, then what reasoning she have to not claim? So, just work it in reverse.

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You're so persuasive it makes me wonder sometimes

But yeah it's still really bullshit and I'm ready to shoot you if you're ready to do your thing

You literally have check on him, what you wonder?

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Imagine the wild world where Mt and pooky are both scum

Already imagined before.

Hilarious.

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Why you even argue with each other if you know each other as evil.

Boredom much?

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Why is this so easy for me but not for Pooky

We're different alignments

I dont care which one of us you think is town

Roden is still scum with one of us probably

Which one?

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Balance?

What is this?

Aye, VOTE: Roden
If we lose, we lose.

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Yeah, that's pretty bad.

But we can't kill both because of "Blah blah we build only one guilotine".

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UNVOTE:

I sleep.

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Also, plan was actually pretty mine idea.

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Crew mutiny.

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Still just elim Andante there

What for?

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Wait really?

It changes things.

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Either way, i am not up for limming TP over group, unless there's real good reason.

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Either way, i am not up for limming TP over group, unless there's real good reason.

wat?

Why elim third party in this situation ever?

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MT too smart to be town, tbh.

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You can as well choke him right now, i don't mind.

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That's the point of dark horse is to join the most obscure faction. It's what I want to do in games. I don't want to be in the favourites to win (mafia), i want to be the one with nothing to lose

But Pooky literally forgot all of that

With this reasoning, why you didn't pick alien?

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Do you really prefer to potentially die with this information?

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Can we choke both?

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I asked mod.

Converts still works even if recruiter die.

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It does.

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Imagine Serial Killer Recruiter.

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Pooky is anyone, but not Mafia Recruiter.

Mafia would NEVER allow their recruiter claim guilties and bait bullets like that.

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Anything may go but probability still exists

Then we can as well just elim all dangers for mafia and join them.

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I could have picked anything but I chose the combined cop/roleblock cause it was my very best ability. I can't do combined abilities with my normal action. I saved my best ability for him and he doesn't even believe me

Why he should believe you have mafia result on him?

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Ok so, i checked, there's 7 roles with "Frame" word.

Around half of them viable.

Check chances.

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Did MT admit being maf?

Whatever.

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Catching up I realize I did mess up slightly.

1. I had a result that was highly unusual from the town player. Remember that I'm a Tracker and they are confirmed town. You will know what it is when they claim it.
2. If the Conversiion does go through it adds another oxidation the plan os less helpful, but it should still resolve well in most cases so I think it's still the best scenario

But converting Andante to Town is good thing?

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tweetie, could you just claim your EXACT role from which you got your ability? want to make sure with the GIM thread

also meg, if you did manage to get a result on the side of tracking roden, why exactly were you advertizing the result as like, risky of being a false positive or something

also, just to make sure, what's the plan we are on for tonight? mechanically, think it's good to remind that with the number of pages that popped into existance

Anything may go but probability still exists

Then we can as well just elim all dangers for mafia and join them.

awwww Maybe Enchant is mafia after all

I don't see chain.

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also, just to make sure, what's the plan we are on for tonight? mechanically, think it's good to remind that with the number of pages that popped into existance

My action was set to "Disloyal Vig" Pooky.

I'm not so sure about that one anymore

How about... hm.... I'm not sure.

But either way, I think Pooky is going to recruit me tonight which should guaranteed have us both solved by tomorrow. I'm pretty sure. Maybe. ????

Yeah? And what action you want to perform instead?

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MT don't want to shot someone who she personally investigated as mafia member with disloyal vig which can't harm same faction.

I think i just consider MT openwolfing at this point.

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Meg dissapoints me.

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Want to join the wagon, why or why not?

confscum is confscum but that's not the one i'd like to see die

Who you want to see to die then?

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Me too.

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I awesomly catched flu.

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Imo. Let's not let spark die.

Who you think is also scum
Like of course, Roden/MT/Pooky/Andante probably contains three, it doesn't mean anyone else pure.

... So? Meg can not answer, if there risk of revealing town.

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What

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Vigilante claim, not sus.

Who you shot N1?

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Oh nvm, ok.

Can you shot MT next night?

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But SK is Third Party.

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Toog, can you explain how your role works?

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Town, Mafia, Werewolf, Third Party or something like that?

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It's actually simple.

If Andante is really SK-Miller, then she gives results as if she was Serial Killer.

So it makes sense to her return Third Party when checked like that.

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Just nod and say you believe her claim, so she attacks MT, probably gets converted and now tell truth finally.

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It convert to Town (I THINK), therefore it should't affect you at all.

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Lol, no.

If Andante we're Miller, they should have claimed Day 1. Additionally, I don't scan based on guilties and not guilties. I return specific factional alignment.

Give 1-2 reasonings to kill possible SK over possible Groupscum.

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Andante, kill Morning Tweetie. Regardless if you are Vig or SK, it helps you.

Thanks.

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And you are telling me a player decides to get rid of Town Aligned Innocent Child for Self Aligned Serial Killer Scanning Miller?

I would discard IC for chance to be SK, yeah.

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Andante, kill Morning Tweetie. Regardless if you are Vig or SK, it helps you.

Thanks.

Please confirm you killing MT, and not someone else.

i meant town, my bad

We will see.

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I mean, sure I can kill MT, works for me!! one less thing to have to think about, but I need others to say we want that to happen cause weak vig, won't weak vig just die? idk how that works lol

MT is scum most likely and will not Weak vig.
And even if she do, then no harm in kill.

Everyone agreed, expect for people who try to kill you instead, but no one cares about them.

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Pft, what weak vig.
Disloyal vig.

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ok sure, I like this plan! and pooky is making me town?

Yea.

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*ded*

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ah so town did lose so thats fine with me

We lost from start, wdym.

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Still not regretting elim of Noraa, it was funny.

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I will be direct, but it was pretty straight.

No one likes playing town mostly. There's exceptions of course.
Therefore, with ability to choose your alignment from three rolls, everyone just go to scum. Game turns in "Who rolled stupid overpowered role, and didn't get elimmed wins" and simlle hunt for "You like playing scum, you die", and meta shit.

I failed with rolling stupid overpowered role, as well as other town and payed for it. Seems like sucking to rng is way of the game, which specific, but not bad. Either there need to be a little more town, or elims should be removed altogether (cuz they are jeopardized from start) and town must have "Faction Strongman Kill" which can be aimed by Village Idiot Vigilante, who doesn't know team and passes his NK to random town when dies. Oh nvm, how Jesters will win then...


Or i am whining. Happens actually.
GG everyone of course, thanks mdding and all.