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[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Also at this point in the game do you have thoughts on a kill in two nights?

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

I think that maybe you should vote for furtive, looking through your ISO it's quite scummy how you keep susing him but not committing to a vote.

[MalcolmTucker]

The problem is that while I'm going for Furtive I've also gone in on Dunnstral a bit - I tend not to be a big voter anyway, I vote sparingly, so I worry an attempt to eliminate Furtive could be seen as a bit opportunistic.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

First of all sorry if I've annoyed anyone so far. Some of my posts were pretty barbed looking back.

Some thoughts on players from their ISOs - I'll watch out for sus behaviour

GoldfishFromtheMoon

: Plays really openly. I'd be surprised if people push Gold this game. I only see town here. There's nothing informed, guarded or calculated about their posting and it shines through. I'm confident in this townread. Off limits, not to be miscondemned.

MalcolmTucker

: Seems pretty reasonable. I can't find fault with anything here - reads are well-reasoned and looking back makes some of the things I said sound a bit stupid. Some scum play like this, but Malcolm's play here is pretty similar to 2088 which I reread recently. Will probably become a universal TR I should think. Cool.

Titus

: Really annoying me if that's OK to say but I think they might be town. Stuff like 140, 173 is so illogical/unwarranted/aggressive/scathing that it doesn't really come from scum. Seems to think everyone is 'throwing' by not using the extra vote. Given that most of town is wary of scum pushing through an extra miscondemn today, wouldn't be talking like this if scum. Reluctant townread, but playstyle is really bizarre and they need to calm down/accept other people's opinions.

FleaTheMagician

: played with Flea who was in a hydra before. Seem pretty similar this game. I agree with them about not using the extra vote. It's possible that they set that up as a dragon for them to slay - 121 for instance. I get the feeling I'll go back and forth on Flea, especially having stronger gut townreads, but they can have town status for today.

Alianna

: I haven't yet played with scum!Alianna. I don't think I am this game either. Tone and style match previous town games. My read here could change depending on flips, it's not as strong as others. But I do get a town vibe. It's the little comments and irreverent humour I've seen before. There's also a parallel between 178 and a comment town!Alianna made in a previous game.

Dunnstral

: Having trouble reading this one. The way they're playing is pretty steady and could easily be replicated as scum. They need to do more to be moved out of null, but I don't want to eliminate them today either.

Cat.Jpeg

: Playing a safe game right now. Trying to look busy. This can come from town, just not usually. Crossreferencing their posting with Mewbie 2092 (our previous game together) makes me really uneasy. They're not playing in the same way at all. Obviously the atmosphere is different this game, but they seem a bit stiff/awkward here. I think it's nervous scum, the other explanation is they haven't settled into the game yet. which would be fair as it's been a bit hostile (myself included). but yeah. personality has completely changed since 2092. scumread.

Radical Rat

: How could you seriously think my joke about quickhammering was a 'scum motivated suggestion'? - 71. I don't like the wording here, especially 'quite possibly'. Tone is confrontational in places - look at 104. Refusal to engage with my ideas about 'info'. Instead sees an easy pointscoring opportunity by making a moot point. Most of their ISO is mech talk - which is kinda understandable in this setup - but not towny - and as for their reads, they voted me based on their own mistake which they admitted, but then are clinging to scumreading me because my reaction was apparently 'weird'. great. I already said their expanded reads look opportunistic and inauthentic. Radical Rat is my preferred elimination. I'm not the type of player to be 100% on every read I make, but I'd be surprised if they flip town.

TLDR is it's Cat and Rat. Together. Both of them. Vote them

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Furtive is going to be kicking himself over this post when the game ends.

[MalcolmTucker]

I know eh. You should probably post soon by the way, been prodded.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Yeah sorry I've been so busy IRL it's not even funny. I'm posting a readslist in the main thread now.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Appreciate that and the feeling is mutual. Class of 2090 townblock is on.

Furtive is officially buddied/pocketed.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Alright so I've voted for Titus and I think I'm going to stay on that wagon and push it hard even though it's the nightkill because when ppl realise that Titus was the intended nightkill they will hopefully townread me for it. Especially since there are a lot of wagons going at the moment and I could have joined any other one without looking sus so it doesn't make sense for scum!me to choose the one that gives me the least benefit if it goes through.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

You've been prodded you should post in the main thread soon.

[MalcolmTucker]

Yeah sorry been wildly busy, shall spend today catching up.

[MalcolmTucker]

Are you planning on sticking with Titus wagon here? Ironically it could accidentally be very good for town if this goes through and I'm reading the game correctly - it'll become obvious afterwards Titus was our own elimination and those who are on the wagon will look close to cleared to much of the town. That will be some town-cred for you potentially but also significantly narrows down the elimination pool. I'll be happy to fight others though to stay - I might pivot back onto Cat again soon because Alianna/Dunn may be hard to get out D2 if Titus goes here.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Are you planning on sticking with Titus wagon here? Ironically it could accidentally be very good for town if this goes through and I'm reading the game correctly - it'll become obvious afterwards Titus was our own elimination and those who are on the wagon will look close to cleared to much of the town. That will be some town-cred for you potentially but also significantly narrows down the elimination pool. I'll be happy to fight others though to stay - I might pivot back onto Cat again soon because Alianna/Dunn may be hard to get out D2 if Titus goes here.

I'm planning on sticking with it yeah.

[MalcolmTucker]

Good, Furtive's pivot onto Alianna is ideally for us here. When we're onto D2 after Titus nightkill I'll make the point in thread that mafia would have been unlikely to sit on said wagon if they were going to eliminate Titus anyway. But will at least try to sound sort of uncertain, don't want to appear too informed. Might even hint one mafia may have sat on it for town-cred as you're doing now, but again very lightly. Think we're in a semi-decent position here at the moment.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

You should say that the people who joined the wagon later (ie. me Dunn and whoever hammers) are probtown but it's possible the first or second person was scum who wanted to disassociate from the kill and didn't expect the wagon to go through

[MalcolmTucker]

Yes that's a good shout, will do.

[MalcolmTucker]

I think it looks like Alianna is going out anyway, Furtive working hard to turn that one around, but the Titus stuff will still be relevant all the same.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Actually I just realised I was the second person to join the Titus wagon

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

You should say that the people who joined the wagon later (ie. me Dunn and whoever hammers) are probtown but it's possible the first or second person was scum who wanted to disassociate from the kill and didn't expect the wagon to go through

So this is not good.

[MalcolmTucker]

Yeah Alianna was on it first too. Can make the general hint but might be a bit clunky if I go all-in and try to clear Dunn. Can see how it plays out when the turn begins.

[MalcolmTucker]

Mentioning past townplay is a good reason for you to stay off Alianna bandwagon too, feels genuine.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

UNVOTE:
Having second thoughts for the one hundred and second time, may or may not have found something fishy, need to reread some stuff, but it’s way too late to do that rn. May put this back later.

Idk exactly why but this post scares me, and her use of the word fishy makes me wonder if shes crumbing that she found something sus on me.

[MalcolmTucker]

I think the fish part is probably a coincidence. I think if they reckon they have something on you then you stay cool and stick on Titus - you'll seem townie by not being too fussed by apparently undue suspicion. I don't think we've left anything particularly blatant in our play thus far.

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Alright let's decide on tommorows kill and todays action

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

So here again are the actions we have to choose from:

- Track, if town selects the player that is performing the nightkill, they are revealed as the killer that night phase.

-Watch, if the town selects the player that was selected for nightkill the player performing the kill is revealed as mafia.

- Imprison, if the town selects the kill target OR the player performing the kill, there is no kill the next night.

-Inform, the mafia chooses a player to gain bulletproof. The first vote of the day will tell the voted player what alignment the chosen player is at the start of the night phase.


So I'm thinking not imprison, because that seems like the least likely to backfire on us in a later phase or when there is only 1 of us left.
Maybe track?

[GoldfishFromTheMoon]

Or do we want to pick watch and then select an unlikely nightkill target.