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[Titus]

I feel weird from both Dwlee and Scorpious. They try to set up a legend that I'm a god tier player (am not) and then at the same time argue that scum doing something means I auto die. It's a nonsensical setup that leaves me confused.

[ItalianoVD]

I have several theories in my head regarding Scorpious and the surrounding players that I’m gonna be giving over the next few days given that it seems to be the focal point of the game right now. Don’t take it to heart, I’m getting my thoughts out.

Theory #1

- Crescent and Scorpious (Scumpartners) The little back and forth on Day 1 could have been the partners doing a little theatre and heavy distancing. This is why Crescent didn’t vote Scorpious and why Scorpious voted Crescent, but ultimately didn’t stay there and ended on MonkeyMan

Theory #2

- Crescent & Scorpious (Townies) They are both town and have just been clashing with each other readswise, personality-wise, and play style-wise. The back and forth was genuine townie frustration and misunderstanding of perceptions and interpretations.

Theory #3

- Vanya and Scorpious (Scumpartners) Vanya here for similar reasons as Crescrent with the jump onto Scorpious for voting himself. Was a scum ploy to distance themselves. Both ended on MonkeyMan

Theory #4

- Vanya and Scorpious
(Town v Scum) Vanya could have jumped on town!Scorpious for voting for himself in an effort to get people to jump on and keep that suspicion going while he jumps on another townie in MonkeyMan.

Will have more later but I’m out right now.

[ItalianoVD]

Also if Scorpious is indeed scum I don’t see towncred being that important for Gamma to bus so early in the day, Scorpious being fine with it. I don’t maybe Gamma is just town even if it is town!Scorpious. Be back later.

[Crescent]

Like every time Scorpious talks about you it confuses me too.

But my issue specifically with Gamma was the reasoning. DWLee calling out the death immediately is NAI. Cara was even faster than Gamma and I don't feel based it strictly on his survival.

I concede this may just be a difference in meta between communities, though.

Town Scorpious would be the guy scum RBs every night and laughs at while he remains a constant distraction and potential vote off. Most games I've played in have had a roleblocker. Is it less common here?

My last scum game I had a strong cop read (he was a scanner, just not cop) on an underwhelming day 1 player going into night 1 and spammed roleblocks on him for four nights.

He claimed day 4 and was the game winning scumhammer on day 5. This is exactly what I'd do with Scorpious here unless something forced me to change my strategy.

[Crescent]

Basically I felt there was a 0% chance Scorpious would die regardless of alignment. Also, I feel scum should already have a pretty good idea who they're shooting tonight.

It may really just be a significant difference in mentality? The more I know the more I can adjust my feelers.

[ItalianoVD]

Theory #5

- Vanya and Scorpious (Town v Scum or town v town) town!Vanya catches scum!Scorpious voting for himself and Scorpious gets out of the suspicion by soft claiming pr. Vanya stops voting here and is now not wanting to vote for pr. If town!Vanya is interacting with town!Scorpious then it could be why Vanya stopped voting pr and Scorpious sounds so townie.

Theory #6

- Titus and Scorpious (Scumpartners)
Okay so Titus going after her partner for two days in a row is definitely not ideal scumplay, although it could work if there is a greater plan at play.

Theory #7

- Titus and Scorpious(Town v Scum)
Town!Titus has locked on to scum!Scorpious and is not letting him go. It’s pretty simple here and there is not much to perceive.

Theory #8

- (Scum v Town) Scum!Titus locking onto town!Scorpious could maybe work as there is suspicion on Scorpious and if he flips town the reason of scummy behavior could be used which would have been the consensus of everyone and suspicion on scum!Titus could be overlooked with a good enough defense.

[ItalianoVD]

Basically I felt there was a 0% chance Scorpious would die regardless of alignment.

It doesn’t make sense to me, but I may dabble too much into scum wifom.

[Dwlee99]

VOTE: Scorpious
Getting vibe the PR thing is total BS

[geraintm]

So, we went from

VC1.9
FugitiveMoose (2): Gamma Emerald, Meuh
MonkeyMan576 (2): Andresvmb, Roden
Andresvmb (2): Crescent, Dwlee99
Scorpious (2): Titus, MonkeyMan576
Titus (1): Scorpious
geraintm (1): Uncle Vanya

to VC10

MonkeyMan576 (3): ItalianoVD, Crescent, Roden
FugitiveMoose (2): Gamma Emerald, Meuh
ItalianoVD (2): Dwlee99, Uncle Vanya
Scorpious (2): Titus, MonkeyMan576

addition of Italiano and Crescent to the MM wagon

then next was Dwlee

VC12

MonkeyMan576 (3): ItalianoVD, Dwlee99, Carcalilly
Dwlee99 (3): Meuh, Gamma Emerald, FugitiveMoose
Scorpious (2): Titus, MonkeyMan576
Meuh (1): geraintm
Crescent (1): Scorpious

Crescent and Roden gone, replaced by Carcalily

and the final was

MonkeyMan576 (7): ItalianoVD, Dwlee99, Carcalilly, Crescent, Scorpious, Uncle Vanya, Gamma Emerald HAMMERED
Dwlee99 (2): Meuh, FugitiveMoose
Scorpious (1): Titus
Meuh (1): geraintm
Crescent (1): MonkeyMan576

Only VC today is

Votecount 2.1

Endless Migration (2009) - HotAirRaccoon

Scorpious

(3): Carcalilly, Gamma Emerald, Titus

Uncle Vanya

(1): Meuh

Not Voting

(7): FugitiveMoose, ItalianoVD, geraintm, Scorpious, Crescent, Dwlee99, Uncle Vanya
With 11 alive, it takes 6 to eliminate.

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-05-19 22:33:37)
Titus V/LA Friday Evening - Monday Morning

with the overlap between the Scorpious push and yesterday being Carcalily and the Gamme hammer

while the deadline is close, id rather see what MM has to say, and for an official votecount before placing my vote anywhere.

I'm sure you will

VOTE: monkey

So, i am deeply suspicious of Carcalily, their vote on Scorpious today is...?

[geraintm]

ia m basically saying i am more suspcious of Carcalily than Scorpious

[Scorpious]

VOTE: Scorpious
Getting vibe the PR thing is total BS

So I’m at E-2?

Is announcing even a thing anymore?

[Scorpious]

Spoiler:

VOTE: Scorpious
Scum

Excellent deduction..

VOTE: Scorpious

Total scum.

VOTE: Scorpious
Scum

Excellent deduction..

VOTE: Scorpious

Total scum.

VOTE: scorpius

Very interesting you’d put someone at 4 votes so early. RVS or not..

UNVOTE:

I wish I actually got anything about your alignment from this little stint

Eh, it’s page 1.

You’ll find me for real scummy for

something

soon enough.

VOTE: gamma emerald

long time no see to you!

scorpius instawagon is funny

Not really.. lol

VOTE: Uncle Vanya

Nice..

Love the creativity..

@Scorpious, any thoughts on how your quick wagon developed? I just wanted to see if any of them gave you a certain vibe.

It didn’t hurt that I self voted. Far be it from me to say if any of those would have stuck. I get zero vibes either way.

@meuh

So...I have a way if random voting in every single game I play. Scorpious wanted me to break that pattern because they didn't want to go to 4 votes so quickly, but I ain't breaking my method for them. You can call it shutting down the conversation, but my last game had scorpious in it and they know elegantly what I was going to do

You seem overly worried about how you look.

VOTE: Meuh

Get plays like this all the time. Hard to find it AI, especially so early.. He has… quirks..

Hard to say, but not many.. maybe 3 or 4… but there is always some sort of stipulation to his play. He mailed in day 1 last game and was open and honest about it.

This was my response I somehow imbedded..

Sorry again

The worst of the votes on you is the guy MM just voted, interestingly enough.

Vanya's vote looks worse to me; sure it's earlier but it actually has some merit as an attempt to push the wagon forward
geraintm's isolated vote that doesn't seem to be made as such an attempt looks better to me.
though I think geraintm is scummier than Vanya?
I think the vote post itself looks worse for Vanya but further posts from geraintm muddies their alignment

How is mine even bad. Self-voting is always anti-town.

Talking in absolutes about joke votes?

New players tend to see things as very black and white like above.. But Vanya specifically said he's an alt.

Is playing on an alt common practice here?

Just look in the forum. I think there is a spot that you must declare who your main is.

I’m always too lazy, or don’t care enough.

And yes.. it’s super common. I’m not a fan.

Why does it bother you so much?

its like hearing a faint alarm bell but not knowing where tf its coming from. I mean, yeah im probably overreacting. maybe projecting cuz scum me would hop in on an comfy echo chamber like this in an instant. idk man.

Knowing where the alarm bells are coming from are only half the fun of psychosis.

I don’t have the patience today, I have a Sunday to enjoy go push someone else Titus( and stop acting like you aren’t considered an extremely good player… “mama bear”

I’m an even night JK
(First letter of every post)

[Dwlee99]

seems fake to me

[Scorpious]

seems fake to me

Like i said. No patience today..

[ItalianoVD]

Scorpious is apparently an Even Night Jailkeeper and said he crumbed his role with the 1st letter of posts he had on Day 1

E
V
E
N
N
I
G
H
T
J
K

Convenient or Calculated is the question. Did he just post and it just so happened that he found the posts that spelled out his role, or did he purposely post in this way to make sure he could highlight it later? Then the killer question is was this town motivated or scum motivated.

The motivation is in fact nai because for both alignments you are trying to survive and you don’t want to get “falsely” killed and alluding to previous posts as crumbing your role are done by both alignments and it does not in fact prove anything.

However, if it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and acts like a duck chances are it’s just a duck and Scorpious has sounded townie, reacted townie, and overall has felt townie.

I won’t be voting for Scorpious today. Even night is tonight, but he should more than likely be nightkilled and if he is not we kill him tomorrow. I don’t agree that scum would roleblock instead of kill because there is no guarantee that the target actually gets eliminated. What if there’s a guilty?

Scorpious did pull the pr move in another game and was scum. I believe time will prove this case to be true or false, but I believe there is a better elimination for today.

[ItalianoVD]

And why does this game seem slower even though prod times have been cut in half?

[geraintm]

I'm not going near scorpious today

[Meuh]

I don’t think crumbing means much, generally. A Scorpious lim today still doesn’t sound ideal, though

[Dwlee99]

Even night jailkeeper just sounds fake y'all

[Titus]

There's two major flaws with Scorpious's decision to crumb from post 1. First, it supposes only town will see it. There's no way that by post 8, Scorpious would know the crumbs would be safe.

Second, he misunderstands (regardless of his alignment) the strengths I bring to the table. I am better than some at the game because I try to surround people with the skills I lack. I am better with data but shit with undertones and the "crumbs" are one big undertone.

Scorpious has been all about division, while I want a setup that best allows hunting..

[Titus]

More on second, a BoP like that from Scorpious is absolutely scummy because he should know how I operate by now.

[Meuh]

Even night jailkeeper just sounds fake y'all

Even night jailkeeper does sound like just about the easiest fake pr claim in the world

[Meuh]

First, it supposes only town will see it. There's no way that by post 8, Scorpious would know the crumbs would be safe.

I mean, this is a legitimate issue I have with crumbing, the potential for scum to catch it, instead of town.
…but what makes it scummy? The conclusion you’re coming to that Scorpious felt safe to crumb doesn’t really make sense if it’s something they always do.
If Scorpious tends to only crumb on occasion then it’s something to consider, for sure. Otherwise, I don’t see how overlaying your personal views on crumbing over their decision-making is a good way to approach this.

[Scorpious]

I’ve never crumbed on this site..

[Meuh]

I’ve never crumbed on this site..

Why start now?