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[geraintm]

I see scorp is being wagoned from what I see. Worth noting that they always seem to be wagoned in every game I was with them in regardless of alignment

Yeah, I’m apparently very scummy in my playstyle. I’m used to it. I love this game, just wish I was better at it. You’ll probably catch flak for this post.

But I’m also seen as an easy push by better players, which is what better players do.

I dunno, I have my moments. But yes. I’m always being pushed for some reason or another.

yeah, you do seem to always have lots of votes.
i somehow am impossible to vote off i have no idea why

[geraintm]

I admit, i hate this playstyle. trailing votes in advance, pointing out multiple places you could go and then wait, but nowhere near enough for me to give them enough scum equity to want to vote for them.
right now, i don't want to vote anyone, but caraclily is in the posistion where i am watching their votes and see when and where they appear on wagons.

I think you misinterpret. I vote for people when I want them gone, but I'll wait if I believe there could be more information given before any definitive action. I'll let my intentions be known since there's no reason to be non-transparent. Is there a problem with waiting if there's time?

you maybe right, and it may be this is the way you play - i just dislike it because it can give Scum wriggle room. scum can always back up a later vote because they can point to one of 5 previous posts on 5 different people they found scummy.

[geraintm]

I already said I don't care about your busy weekends
This feels like an unproductive exchange and I don't get the impression you're acting in good faith.

this clearly isnt going anywhere except to annoy us both

[geraintm]

1044 and 1046 also aren't great. gerain reads disingenuous.

I admit, i hate this playstyle. trailing votes in advance, pointing out multiple places you could go and then wait, but nowhere near enough for me to give them enough scum equity to want to vote for them.
right now, i don't want to vote anyone, but caraclily is in the posistion where i am watching their votes and see when and where they appear on wagons.

Claims to hate setting up votes.

This is setting up votes lol.

it isn't! But i can see how it can seem that way.

I went in thinking i would find something their posts/votes but i didn't and was surprised.

I had my eye on them because i felt their day 1 vote on MonkeyMan was well times to derail another wagon onto one that turned into one on a Townie, and i absolutely hate anyone who pushed Scorpious today as we all knew that Scorpious was just going to caim,

but i went in thinking i would have found a reason to vote for Caralily and didn't - which surprised me.

it would take some very obviously scummy behaviour the rest of today for me to vote Cara

???
This post feels genuine, but for the wrong reasons

VOTE: gerain

i admit i went into looking back at their posts expecting to find reasons to vote for them, but then i didnt, and that is scummy?

[geraintm]

He's probably just a mafia jailkeeper anyway and wants to be able to try to block power roles again tonight

I might be reading too much into this but this sounds like tmi.

If it's TMI then help me bus?

So what's the content of your read on me? Cause the only thing you have cited is the post you admitted to reading wrong

Null currently as the read was based on a misread. Don’t stress too much

Finished work now will catch up in an hour or two when I get home

VOTE: gera

i need an explanation for this vote.

[geraintm]

I admit, i hate this playstyle. trailing votes in advance, pointing out multiple places you could go and then wait, but nowhere near enough for me to give them enough scum equity to want to vote for them.
right now, i don't want to vote anyone, but caraclily is in the posistion where i am watching their votes and see when and where they appear on wagons.

Claims to hate setting up votes.

This is setting up votes lol.

it isn't! But i can see how it can seem that way.
I went in thinking i would find something their posts/votes but i didn't and was surprised. I had my eye on them because i felt their day 1 vote on MonkeyMan was well times to derail another wagon onto one that turned into one on a Townie, and i absolutely hate anyone who pushed Scorpious today as we all knew that Scorpious was just going to caim, but i went in thinking i would have found a reason to vote for Caralily and didn't - which surprised me.
it would take some very obviously scummy behaviour the rest of today for me to vote Cara

No context of the games content but Scorps tone seems genuine and I mindmelded somewhat whrn they responded to my question to dwee

I'm at work and will expound later but this post is red flagging me hard regardless of Scorpious' alignment.

Scorpious has come off as such a wide-scale fraud this game that I have exactly one argument in my head for him being town.

This is a cheap and incorrect defense of the vote leader.

which post - there are two?

[geraintm]

Oh Monkey was elimmed and flipped town?

VOTE: Titus

Good place to start.

Likely Roden was killed for TRing Titus or null kill.

I wanna see Titus change my mind.

never guess a reason for the night kill - it will always be wrong,

[geraintm]

i have zero opinion on Scorpious' night action, the last 3 pages i pretty much skipped....

[Gamma Emerald]

The push on scorpious today was always going to flush out a claim and nothing else

gonna be frank here, I don't like this

not sure why this upset you?

Try looking one post down

[geraintm]

yeah why say that when you didn't even vote there?

oh i see. i didn't vote for Scorpious, i thought it was a bad push from people.
i was like, 99% sure all that would be accomplished from people early voting Scorpious today was to get the claim and then everyone would back off. i wish people had been honest about their intentions, and if they really wanted a claim from them then they mise well have done it Day 1.

[Gamma Emerald]

okay

[MathBlade]

Oh Monkey was elimmed and flipped town?

VOTE: Titus

Good place to start.

Likely Roden was killed for TRing Titus or null kill.

I wanna see Titus change my mind.

never guess a reason for the night kill - it will always be wrong,

Except when I have a track record of usually being right on the nightkill target and why.

[Dwlee99]

Wait MathBlade do you think Scorpious is scum or no

No I don’t.

Why not

I already explained why not. Even night JK doesn’t make sense.

Scum would be throwing their utility away with that claim.

If anyone was blocked on an odd night (and then flips town) becomes policy.

Town scum both with blockers is practically unheard of.

So they’d be leashing Scorpious and if he didn’t agree with what majority town wanted another avenue of insta death.

It’s too restrictive. Scum under pressure almost always do some low powered invest for this reason.

But Scorpious crumbed this at the start, it would be planned from the beginning. And it isn't very restrictive given everyone is hopping off of them

[Dwlee99]

i need an explanation for this vote.

I don't think you're playing townie

[geraintm]

i need an explanation for this vote.

I don't think you're playing townie

going to awkward at the end of the game when my misvote loses it for town

[Dwlee99]

Okay I'll just remove you before ELO and then that won't happen

[geraintm]

Okay I'll just remove you before ELO and then that won't happen

That seems fair

[Dwlee99]

I feel like Roden night kill points away from Titus upon Roden review

[Dwlee99]

UNVOTE:

Hood members need to claim first to avoid potential false guilties from a PT Cop.

Actually this is prob what scum interpreted as PR tell

[Titus]

I’m kinda thinking Titus
She complained early on that the hood wasn’t really active but didn’t actually seem to show genuine care
That kinda feels like she wanted to pocket people in it?

I can definitely feel that. Especially how she’s not “omg be in my block” “my block”.

I also kinda feel Carca is with Titus for the response not S&S yet was on record suspecting Scorpious but then poof when I ask who they want dead.

Like I think Titus is the lynchpin with the Roden kill.

You and JV are utterly inconsistent here. I think the hood is my townblock. I have stated as much. I am concerned JV is taking advantage of numbers = scum. 90% my reads (expression) are stating people are town.

[Titus]

She’s called/implied the hood as a masonry as well despite in a 13 player game that’s sus as hell, so if she’s scum I think that *might* clear JV and Italiano.

That's how I felt at the time but I continuously reset on players. See Vanya.

[Titus]

She’s called/implied the hood as a masonry as well despite in a 13 player game that’s sus as hell, so if she’s scum I think that *might* clear JV and Italiano.

I'd like to add that the speak in the hood has me confident that it's Titus if any, and I am assuming there is at least one. I'd be willing to chain-elim me followed by them if that's required but I don't think it would be.

This looks like it is designed to take attention away from Scorpious. Even if he sacrifices, then scum get two more nights with Scorpious.

[Titus]

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In this game MathBlade (Titus' brother) night killed Roden N1 because he thought he was a power role

I have a predisposition toward killing Roden as I believe they are top tier town. However I wasn’t in the game at this point.

Titus I don’t think has such a predisposition that I am aware of but my skill set with Roden is rather limited.

I think it’s either a null kill or trying to poison the waters and make Titus look good.

I don't really see a scorp/titus s/s cuz iirc they've been tunneling eachother quite a bit.

Yeah I saw Roden’s claim and I thought Scorpious is probably town. I just hate that Titus vote.

What do you make of Titus?

Mixed. Two things that stand out to me are the hood claim and the hard scorp tunneling. Being first to claim the hood felt kinda ballsy to me. Still don't understand why she was so against the full hood claim.
The tunneling is concerning, though I'm seeing the same deal from dwlee. I can't fathom scorp being partnered with either, so my instinct is telling me that dwlee/titus are T if scorp flips S. Im open to the alternative T!scorp and S!dwlee/titus, but I trust that way less.

I really don't get the obvious that people don't get revealing people who

usually

don't have other roles to scum. The hood isn't guaranteed to have scum, but that is possible. I felt outing the exact people was proscum but I literally could not explain the problems without outing the existence of the hood. It was an impossible place.

[Titus]

Question to everyone:

Who would you jail tonight if you were me?

Italiano / Crescent

So you’d jail excusively probably town in your eyes?

Damn this is a race for who is scummiest between you and Titus.

Lmao. This is literally the last game over again. I kinda get why you feel like this.

[Titus]

Primarily because I can understand the tunnel coming from a stubborn town perspective, while I'm struggling to find a town perspective in the manner in which scorp was claiming yesterday. The softing with barley a wagon, trying to take back the soft, then full claiming immediately the next day just feels odd. They've been finnicky about it as if they were unsure about their own role.

The JK claim/crumb threw me for a bit of a loop. I'd say it's the only reason why I feel less confident pushing that elim today.

This also might be scum with Scorpious. They're positioned to vote either way.