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Post #2974 (isolation #206) » Mon May 30, 2022 5:18 pm
Postby Save The Dragons »
In post 2479, Save The Dragons wrote:i dunno i think gth it's just roden at this point? but i dunno what to think anymore i just townread everyone else more
I dunno how much more unsure I could be about a scumread than this post
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Post #2991 (isolation #208) » Tue May 31, 2022 7:57 am
Postby Save The Dragons »
the kill makes more sense coming from fire, i don't know why roden leaves me alive if his view of the game is i'm heavily scumreading him other than it might look too obvious.
but it's possible that a scum!roden thought bloodhail would come to the correct conclusion and he picked people he thought he could manipulate better. but i don't know.
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Post #2994 (isolation #210) » Tue May 31, 2022 8:24 am
Postby Save The Dragons »
In post 1852, Roden wrote:Also the main reason I replaced in was because I saw it was Mala, and I knew from a recent town game of her's that she's been feeling off because of IRL stuff, so I town read the slot beforehand. After reading some of her posts this game, they seem very reminiscent of that game.
this is over explainy. Look at me, i'm town.
In post 1884, Roden wrote:I think I'm going to end up voting Elephant today, I just want to finish going through his ISO first. If I end up town reading him though then idk.
it's interesting you decide on elephant when he's at 3 votes. but then...
In post 2012, bloodhail wrote:i think the poe is probably datisi/mala/nk15 and i lean toward it being the first 2 names
VOTE: datisi
halfway thru the iso but feel confident enough to vote this now. will return to chat more but taking a break for dinner soonish
In post 2077, Roden wrote:Oof, I finished going through Elephant's ISO then saw ten more pages crop up and that he replaced out. I came away with a town lean, and after catching up I think his replacement is town. Idk who Bloodhail is an alt of but I like their entrance, and us having similar reads after replacing in feels like a good sign that I'm on the right track.
VOTE: Datisi
Gonna go back and reply to some stuff.
roden says he has similar reads to bloodhail when bloodhail suspects him. it could be handwavey to try and get attention off his slot. i could see this being a planned bus to make roden look good by being an early proponent of datisi's wagon. i think the plan could have changed here. i dunno. it's a weird thing to do if roden is actually partnered with datisi. so maybe roden has a point here?
In post 2094, Roden wrote:Me not taking that path and instead resisting it should indicate that we aren't partners, as I would've just voted Elephant and let Datisi hammer.
i don't know how viable this actually is to dump both scum votes onto elephant. i think it would have looked suspicious. i was never voting elephant at that point.
In post 2460, Roden wrote:Ngl, I wanted Datisi even before Blood replaced in but didn't think I could ever get him that late into Day 1. He has a better social game than me and is a master of AtE. Tbh I'm shocked he actually got voted out, even just a little bit of support from a team mate would've saved him imo.
That's the main reason I'm reevaluating my read on NK15, because while I think it's possible Fire bussed, I don't think the scum team was prepared for a last minute Datisi elim. I think it's just more likely he didn't get any help rather than him getting bussed.
i don't think this is true, it's clear now he was bussed though i suppose it wasn't clear at the time but if you knew about him being bussed because you did it, you could push this narrative to look less suspicious and cast shade on slots that didn't vote datisi or that voted late.
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Post #2997 (isolation #211) » Tue May 31, 2022 8:34 am
Postby Save The Dragons »
if i'm just going on gut, it's roden
fireisred's vibes just seem townie while roden is more defensive and prickly. i feel like fireisred has done more to move the gamestate forward than roden or mala have.
it bothers me that ari and then bloodhail suggested it could be fire. ari convinced me in the beginning that fire could have been shady but now knowing for sure that was a real read she had and not scum!ari trying to get town!fire out of the coalition as an easy shot to clear the way for her and her partner
if fire is scum he did a good job of convincing me that he's town with his energy in the thread
if roden is scum he did a good job with the kills making them point to fire
i know roden is going to latch onto this and say i'm trying to kill him but i'm really sitting here trying to work it out and assuage my doubts but i don't think i'm going to vote confidently when i do vote.
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Post #3040 (isolation #221) » Tue May 31, 2022 12:33 pm
Postby Save The Dragons »
my interactions with datisi are not partnery. he spent time trying to drag me down and make my main suspicion, menalque, look good. datisi and mala/roden partnering makes more sense. i genuinely thought it was menalque and my progressions this game make sense. i followed my gut this game with menalque and when that didn't work out i tried listening to the town more, as evidenced by me going after ari listening to bloodhail. i think i've been an open book, and i'm a lot more reserved as scum. and as scum i take bloodhail to the end every time because he probably never votes me here.
In post 1419, Save The Dragons wrote:the fact you have the same scum read as i still means you're either pocketing me hard for no reason because i have no influence in this gamestate or we're kindred town and we may be onto something here so i'm thinking it's the latter
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Post #3053 (isolation #227) » Tue May 31, 2022 12:57 pm
Postby Save The Dragons »
In post 432, Save The Dragons wrote:at first i got pings from datisi in the scum direction but now i'm getting pings in the town direction
In post 343, Datisi wrote:
pedit: oh no, i'm townreading fire now???
In post 406, Datisi wrote:
so i'm left with me/mena/skitt/ari and one of std or irrel? bleh maybe they're both town and i'm not giving enough credit to The Vibes but also time is short
just having an openness seems to come from a town mindset of trying to solve, he's not being stubborn in his reads. i dunno. it's very pingy. my friend's brother had a penguin stuffed animal named ping-ping once. i'm trying to get fire to tr me correctly by saying ping a lot. is it working? ping.
i also liked his posts on me, ari, and irrelephant, i think they're well thought out. I'd probably be okay with datisi in my coalition.
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Post #3057 (isolation #228) » Tue May 31, 2022 1:06 pm
Postby Save The Dragons »
In post 3055, Roden wrote:Just realized both Datisi and STD wanted Skitter in the Coalition even though they "scum read" her...lol.
STD why did you want Skitter in the Coalition? You didn't trust her. You did trust Datisi though, so why try to vote in a player that you and your town read found suspicious?
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Post #3067 (isolation #231) » Tue May 31, 2022 1:27 pm
Postby Save The Dragons »
In post 3055, Roden wrote:STD why did you want Skitter in the Coalition? You didn't trust her. You did trust Datisi though, so why try to vote in a player that you and your town read found suspicious?
I never really Sr her. I never didn't trust her. I never found her suspicious. So I wanted her in the coalition because I tr her.
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Post #3087 (isolation #235) » Tue May 31, 2022 1:44 pm
Postby Save The Dragons »
Literally asking you to help me out because you create narratives out of incorrect information (like me sring skitter) and it's confusing what you are asking
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Post #3103 (isolation #238) » Tue May 31, 2022 2:02 pm
Postby Save The Dragons »
I don't think I had no options left ari and mena just got into a huge fight and I pushed datisi by voting him instead of...you know...not doing that which is what I would have done if I were partners with him
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Post #3127 (isolation #240) » Tue May 31, 2022 2:27 pm
Postby Save The Dragons »
In post 1193, Save The Dragons wrote:someone tell me i'm crazy paranoid for thinking datisi and menalque are the team and they took a concerted effort to force me out of the coalition by sandbagging me at the last minute and datisi bringing menalque's star upward
I talked myself out of it but to say I expressed 0 suspicion on datisi is false
