Night Watch Open 95 - Game Over before 703

Xtoxm · Post Post #11 (isolation #0) » Mon Nov 03, 2008 1:07 pm

Confirm.

Xtoxm · Post Post #17 (isolation #1) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:15 am

Lol Bio.

It's like 5 now, isn't it?

I feel like random voting this game.

Plus, i'm listening to cheesy dance.

Vote SC

Xtoxm · Post Post #19 (isolation #2) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 10:20 am

I am not.

Are you?

Xtoxm · Post Post #22 (isolation #3) » Tue Nov 04, 2008 11:08 am

I had no idea it was Night start.

I think that's a maf there, how would town know that?

Unvote Vote Crazy

At any rate, we can't change it now, and it's not much of a big deal anyway.

Xtoxm · Post Post #29 (isolation #4) » Wed Nov 05, 2008 11:16 am

What is the point of this being Night start?

All it is is Mafia get pot luck on whether or not they remove a power role.

Vote Crazy

Still think only a maf would know that.

Xtoxm · Post Post #110 (isolation #5) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:26 pm

Want to find scum? That's a .. different approach.

Hang on a minute...I don't get how it works.

It could be scum causing hider death...But couldn't it equally be killing of innocent he hid behind?

Xtoxm · Post Post #112 (isolation #6) » Mon Nov 10, 2008 6:35 pm

Hmm..I think it works, actually. Though it's prob better for hider to stay alive with multiple town cleared.

N1 - Camn
N2 - Ice

Xtoxm · Post Post #153 (isolation #7) » Sat Nov 15, 2008 8:36 pm

I am not liking this TCS wagon at all.

Xtoxm · Post Post #157 (isolation #8) » Sun Nov 16, 2008 4:40 am

His comment does not sound scum motivated and he has garnered votes far to quickly.

Xtoxm · Post Post #168 (isolation #9) » Sun Nov 16, 2008 11:48 am

Omgus is

not

a scumtell.

Xtoxm · Post Post #205 (isolation #10) » Tue Nov 18, 2008 9:16 am

Not liking Ice's case. Think it does look a bit scum motivated.

Still like my vote though, it's not random. To clarify, It is not in place for the reasons I origally stated.

Xtoxm · Post Post #235 (isolation #11) » Fri Nov 21, 2008 1:58 am

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:
Haschel Cedricson wrote:Greetings, everyone.

Before I read this game, I want bionicchop2 and ortolan to give me a summary of the game so far.
So... what's the over/under on those being his scum partners?

Welcome to the game, HC.

Shall we lynch him to see?

Xtoxm · Post Post #238 (isolation #12) » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:49 am

Oh, your comment was serious?

Xtoxm · Post Post #241 (isolation #13) » Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:57 am

For all we know he rolled a die. I don't think there's anything to take form it, I think it's random.

I can see PS scum, but Bio looks good to me.

Xtoxm · Post Post #282 (isolation #14) » Sun Nov 23, 2008 3:33 am

The Central Scrutinizer wrote:Also,
unvote, vote:orangepenguin
as I'm still seeing zero content from him.

What makes you think he is scummy?

Xtoxm · Post Post #298 (isolation #15) » Mon Nov 24, 2008 9:14 am

I don't get this OP wagon.

I still quite like my vote...

Xtoxm · Post Post #441 (isolation #16) » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:24 am

TCS>Ort>NL

Unvote Vote TCS

As deadline is today.

Xtoxm · Post Post #442 (isolation #17) » Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:25 am

Having said that, none of the 3 remaining options look that interesting to me.

Xtoxm · Post Post #449 (isolation #18) » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:10 am

I had assumed NL at deadline.

There should be rules posted...

Xtoxm · Post Post #451 (isolation #19) » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:13 am

Deadline is in 45 mins, fucking vote him.

Xtoxm · Post Post #456 (isolation #20) » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:18 am

Mmk. 9:15 pm here.

Xtoxm- pretty convenient that you haven't been here the last few days when everyone was considering voting you, yet you show up an hour before lynch to make sure it happens.

Isn't it just.

Xtoxm · Post Post #459 (isolation #21) » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:24 am

I'd go for that. Problem is there's a good chance I won't be on again before deadline.

Eh, fuck it. It's up to you guys to make a lynch happen.

Unvote Vote HC

Xtoxm · Post Post #484 (isolation #22) » Sun Dec 07, 2008 11:25 pm

Even though my vote was the one that basically changed the lynch from the wathcer to the mafia...

Xtoxm · Post Post #498 (isolation #23) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 11:41 am

Yay, another game with me OP and Bio being confirmed town

Xtoxm · Post Post #500 (isolation #24) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:02 pm

Mm, I actually didn't realise either of your power hints until today, lol.

Xtoxm · Post Post #501 (isolation #25) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:05 pm

Okay so we have 4 people clear.

The scum are in:

{Fat, SC, Crazy, Ort, Ice}

Personally, i'm leaning SC-Ice atm.

Xtoxm · Post Post #506 (isolation #26) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:20 pm

I'm the one not paying attention?

Bio has claimed Hider, clearing me and Camn.

Xtoxm · Post Post #508 (isolation #27) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 12:26 pm

Read Bio's last post. He had to claim because the risk of being CCed later when he apparantly hid behind the nightkill wasn't worth staying hidden. Not much harm in Hider claiming by this point anyway really, he can just hide at night...

Xtoxm · Post Post #511 (isolation #28) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:08 pm

It sounded an awful lot like you were, Bio.

Well, I think either today or tomorrow is fine for a Hider claim. I think Hider should claim if someone he's cleared is going to be lynched otherwise.

As I made it obvious, yeh i'm townie.

Xtoxm · Post Post #517 (isolation #29) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:45 pm

Bio N1 was Camn.

Tempted to say "Answer yourself", but eh.

I've seen Fat and Ort as town all game, and I thought Crazy looked better towards the end of yesterday.

Xtoxm · Post Post #521 (isolation #30) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 1:56 pm

Nothing in particular comes to mind. I generally use elimination to find scum. Town has 2 mislynches in hand at this point anyway.

Xtoxm · Post Post #525 (isolation #31) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:04 pm

Well, that's what, 3 claimed townies and the Cop? Not much left for the Mafia to look in...

Xtoxm · Post Post #529 (isolation #32) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 2:16 pm

Didn't realise Camn claimed townie. Well now Fat has too, so I think Hider should just claim.

Xtoxm · Post Post #535 (isolation #33) » Mon Dec 08, 2008 3:30 pm

Vote SC

Xtoxm · Post Post #545 (isolation #34) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 12:42 am

No. An NL would be idiotic, waste one of our mislycnhes, and get a confirmed townie killed.

Xtoxm · Post Post #553 (isolation #35) » Tue Dec 09, 2008 9:19 am

I think that the chance scum don't know who the Hider is already is minimal, failing that I imagine they have a fairly good idea. I think Hider claiming today is optimal.

Xtoxm · Post Post #566 (isolation #36) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:11 am

Unvote Vote Crazy

Xtoxm · Post Post #573 (isolation #37) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 10:20 am

It would still work.

"If town is lynched, i'll hide behind X, if scum is lynched, i'll be on random".

I am not sure I agree with your idea, just saying how it can be done...

Xtoxm · Post Post #583 (isolation #38) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 12:45 pm

Tbh, this is what I think is best.

Fat, I think you should hide behind no-one, and garantee that we keep two mislynches. Given how yesterday went down, i'm happy to say Ort is town. I'm actually surprised people are suspicious of me.

Then we just lynch Me/Crazy/Bio/Camn.

Infact, Bio's fluff about what you should do at night just looks scum trying to think of a way of giving his team a small chance of being played back into contention, when town can realistically cruise to victory here. I think Bio is scum and realises the chance that Ort-Town being mislynched (which is required for his victory) is near zero.

So, when you take your night action Fat, please consider the chance that you will be playing town out. No action may well be the optimal decision.

Xtoxm · Post Post #585 (isolation #39) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:56 pm

Lol.

Unvote Vote Bio

When i'm offering myself as a lynch?

That post makes me quite confident you are scum.

Xtoxm · Post Post #587 (isolation #40) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 2:59 pm

Anyway, cleared townies: Don't listen to the BS Bio is spewing. Although on the surface it appears to help town, the low precentage chance of it helping scum, which would be zero if Fat no-actioned.

Xtoxm · Post Post #588 (isolation #41) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 3:02 pm

orangepenguin wrote:It really sucks that my role copping powers can do nothing, regarding scum. At this point, all I can do is confirm that afatchic is the hider, which, considering that nobody has counter-claimed, and probably won't, it seems a bit useless.

I don't think we should rule out ortolan as scum. If ort is scum, I am thinking his partners (either bio or xtoxm) are trying to get the idea that ort is town out there, that way, when either of them is eventually lynched, there partner is saved for the win. Now, I think there is a good chance crazy is scum still.

I think afatchic should hide behind whoever she thinks is the scummiest, since, if there is no double kill, it will reveal scum, right? I don't know how that works at all. Hopefully, we lynch scum today though.

The big back and forth between bio and xtoxm just makes them look bad though, IMO, and makes me think one of them is definitely scum. Eh. So confused. I'll have to look at each.

I chose Crazy to rolecop though, because I thought he was scum, going under the radar. I got the town result, indicating he wasn't the hider. So he is either town or scum.

It confirms scum, but wastes a mislynch. It's better for Fat to stay alive, and we can just use the mislynch on the one he would otherwise have hid behind.

Xtoxm · Post Post #606 (isolation #42) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:11 pm

Just you watch it play scum into a victory they didn't have.

Yes, Bio does know my meta well. But he's scum in this game, and he's BSing. It means squat.

At the least, you definatley should not tell us who you plan to hide behind, and you should try to hide behind town. If you die in a double kill that's very bad for town, it doesn't matter if you die finding a scum, the damage is still done.

Like I say, we have 2 mislynches, we don't need your power. You are abusing it to the town's detriment.

Xtoxm · Post Post #607 (isolation #43) » Wed Dec 10, 2008 9:13 pm

By all means, lynch me today. Just think about what i've said. And i'm quite sure Bio is scum at this point.

Xtoxm · Post Post #617 (isolation #44) » Thu Dec 11, 2008 11:46 am

If it would prevent him from claiming target then yeh I definately would. He shouldn't be announcing any target anyway.

Xtoxm · Post Post #626 (isolation #45) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 5:06 am

I have no more reasons.

I've pretty much accepted i'm going to be lynched today, i'm cool with that.

Again, I don't see how i'm scummy, but I never get why people lynch me but they always do anyway.

I see no benefit to self hammering, so i'm not going to this game. I only do that if there's a good logical reason too, or if someone's really pissed me off.

I'm going to see Slipknot tonight!

Xtoxm · Post Post #640 (isolation #46) » Fri Dec 12, 2008 1:05 pm

Meta does not suck, it is the single best way to get a read on someone in Mafia by a long shot.

It's cool Bio. I know you don't

I was refering more to the cleared ones on my bandwagon.

I apologise also if i'm wrong. You know the reason i've voted you, and I take it as a big scumtell, although it could be Crazy/Camn. If Ort's scum then i'll admit i've been horribly wrong on him all game, and congratulate him on his performance, because i'm quite convinced he's town.

I still urge you to consider not hiding tonight, Fat. Don't say that you're going to, just please consider it. You hiding behind scum or being killed in a double would lose the town a mislynch, and a cleared townie, and would be really harmful for town...And you don't need to take a risk like that on the low chance of confirming town victory, I think you have it anyway.

And Slipknot was awesome btw!

Feel like i'm home wa early though...

Xtoxm · Post Post #661 (isolation #47) » Sat Dec 13, 2008 7:25 am

If you hide behind Crazy it will just hand scum the game. Assuming Crazy is scum it will just mean town are in lylo with the day after, with Ort, Bio, Camn all unconfirmed. If you hide behind no-one, you can use a mislynch on one of the unconfirmed. I don't see how you can't see that. You should atleast be hding behind someone who looks liekly to be town, like Ort, hiding behind scum is the worst possible thing to do.

Xtoxm · Post Post #760 (isolation #48) » Fri Dec 26, 2008 6:07 pm

I'm quite pleased with how I played here..I caught onto 2 of the scum D1. Sorry if you thought my posting was light. I was just wrong on Bio at the end, but I think his strategy was very anti-town. (I still stand by that). Also note my "assume Ort-town" strategy would have won town

Xtoxm · Post Post #761 (isolation #49) » Sat Dec 27, 2008 5:56 am

Also, I think Fat played very well in this game. I think your desicion not to hide on the last 2 nights was correct, and although frustrating for me, your pretending you would to otherwise to confuse scum was very good play. I assume this frustration is what gave away I was town to you. I comend you

Xtoxm · Post Post #765 (isolation #50) » Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:18 am

Lol.

I advocated that because I was convinced you were town. And I was right.