In post 472, Meuh wrote:Okay maybe I'm too caught up on this but I'm still not over this post from Pooky, it seems so disinterested in actually thinking about the game.
I can unfortunately vouch I see shit like this all the time, when the man thinks he has something he pulls whatever random justification of his own viewpoint out of the hat. The
saving grace
magical part of the bear is that the initial read tends to be more accurate than the average bear.
In post 473, Faker wrote:I think there are other considerations, such as scum-Pooky having a plan of his own (Pooky is the one who set the terms of this entire game to begin with for the most part) and it is not likely he immediately needed my intervention to bail him out.
I think that the argument is surface-level riskfree might be valid, so sure, I will drop it.
Your intervention came after this post:
In post 384, Lukewarm wrote:This does not seem like it is ever going to end up with a different out come
@Penguin, let me know when you have gotten your fill on talking about other minigames, and I will vote you
Actually just typed up the vote, but realized that pooky could cut you off from talking if he wanted, and did not want you iced out of the game.
So, scum!you would see that what ever scum!pooky was attempting was leading to critical failure, so I would argue that you might think he immediately needed your help to bail him out.
In post 474, Faker wrote:It's also worth noting that it is fundamentally a good thing for MD as a whole, ie. to the town wincon for me or against the scum wincon for me, to delay Sillyposting because of your input on marcistar.
I am not sure why you think that I am some kind of Marci sevant.
I have correctly lead an elim push against her, being so sure that she was scum that even when a fake mechanical clear was put out there, I doubted the mechanical clear before I doubted my scum read.
But I have also been completely fooled by scum marci before. Twice even. Both times having to be bailed out by someone else. In our first game, we made it to MELO with me thinking that Marci was town, and the only reason that we won was that I decided to let Meuh decide and sheep her choice. And another game, I defended her all game until a PR came out with a guilty on her.
In post 474, Faker wrote:It's also worth noting that it is fundamentally a good thing for MD as a whole, ie. to the town wincon for me or against the scum wincon for me, to delay Sillyposting because of your input on marcistar.
I am not sure why you think that I am some kind of Marci sevant.
I have correctly lead an elim push against her, being so sure that she was scum that even when a fake mechanical clear was put out there, I doubted the mechanical clear before I doubted my scum read.
But I have also been completely fooled by scum marci before. Twice even. Both times having to be bailed out by someone else. In our first game, we made it to MELO with me thinking that Marci was town, and the only reason that we won was that I decided to let Meuh decide and sheep her choice. And another game, I defended her all game until a PR came out with a guilty on her.
We can vice versa this for times I have played with town Marci too.
I have correctly defended her as town, but I have also pushed her pretty hard when she was town as well (thinking of shakespere in particular, where she was my second strongest scum read every single game day, just barely above the person I would push each day up until the moment her own role resulted in her own death lol)
It was my perception that you are above average at reading marcistar, and if that is not true c'est la vie.
While Meuh has seen no reason to treat me this way, I've approached it from the perspective that I'm going to get policyslotted as null by several players at the table regardless of their instincts or my play. Working backwards from marcistar's alignment should be easier.
In post 479, Faker wrote:It was my perception that you are above average at reading marcistar, and if that is not true c'est la vie.
While Meuh has seen no reason to treat me this way, I've approached it from the perspective that I'm going to get policyslotted as null by several players at the table regardless of their instincts or my play. Working backwards from marcistar's alignment should be easier.
I don't think that I am particularly bad at reading Marci, but also not The Marci Sorter, which is how it felt like you were positioning me.
I think that Marci's play largely makes more sense coming from scum!Marci then coming from town!Marci, and if I had to resolve your game right now that is how I would do it.
But I would not try to force my own read onto Meuh's since in the 1 completed game the three of us had together, she was right on Marci and I was wrong lol
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
In post 439, RH9 wrote:By the way, the swap reinforced my reads.
I think that Dwlee was distancing from marci during D1 so that when they were apart and marci flipped red, scum could use this flip to make STD misvote.
ur being a bit dumb rn
why would mexdwlee team bet our cards on dragons when at the start of it all, we didnt know who our third would be?
This feels like it make sense. Leaving Marci in SGB feels bad if they could avoid it, and I could see scum!dwlee or scum!STD not wanting to bet the game on being able to 1v1 Faker. (If they thought leaving Marci in SGB was a loss, then losing the Faker 1v1 would be game)
This feels like it doesnt make sense. Like, scum!RH9+Faker just leaves Marci in SGB with Dwlee, and swaps one of them with StD or even swaps with Dwlee for a bit of WIFOM. Swapping RH9 with Marci feels like the single worst choice for RH9 to try to win SGB. Which makes me want to discard this possibility.
This also feels like it makes sense scum!Marci would rather not be in SGB with a town!Dwlee.
This feels like an underwhelming choice? Like it does not feel like it does a lot to make me think : Ah ha, the scum would want this, but there is also nothing to make me say that they would not want it either.
I kinda want to think about options 3 and 4 in comparison to making a swap into silly posting.
2/4 make most sense i dont get why anyone would think otherwise
In post 480, Lukewarm wrote:I think that Marci's play largely makes more sense coming from scum!Marci then coming from town!Marci, and if I had to resolve your game right now that is how I would do it.
how does it make sense as coming from scum marci?? im town
In post 485, RH9 wrote:By the way, what does everybody think of a Pooky-marci-Dwlee team?
I'm leaning there right now.
i think its impossible since im not scum
im thinking dwlee and faker are scum for sure tho but idk who would be scum in lukes game i still need to iso pooky : (
I don't really see why Dwlee and I conspire to have them go aggressive on you and me townread you, only to swap the game.
Earlier you suggested I considered you an easy voteout and thus swapped you in here. I don't see why me/Dwlee99 feel the need to shake it up if this is the case; Dwlee explicitly joined that game to go after you. Is the response to this just "WIFOM"?
In post 8, Lukewarm wrote:My intention as town was going to be to automatically lock myself into the Keep [Sillyposting] in my first post, but we can chat about that since I am actually scum lmao
408 was already rough for one but he still hasn't responded to this one.
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
Is your plan to ignore the massacre of your most salient point and just stick your head in the sand and pretend it never happened or is it to go back to the drawing board?
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
That you've stuck your head in the sand and ignored the massacre of your most salient point completely.
If you're right and Lukewarm is scum I'm happy for you and all but you seem unfazed. The only point of hope is that neither you nor Penguin have yet actually voted the other.
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
"I hope one day I can openly play as wolfy as Pooky and get zero pressure for it grumble grumble."
-MariaR
"I can't even look at the game anymore.
That evil teddy bear has got everyone twirling by his thumb.
It's like witnessing an slow but unavoidable train crash you can't stop."
