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For large social games such as Survivor where the primary mechanic is social interaction.
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Post Post #212 (isolation #0) » Mon Dec 07, 2020 3:55 pm

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Now updated for Survivor: Flash Mob!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

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Post Post #213 (isolation #1) » Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:31 pm

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Now Updated for Survivor: Barely Survivor!

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing

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Edit: Made a mistake when calculating ELOs, that error is now fixed.

Edit 2: Don't want to take another screenshot so just clarifying that the [Redacted] Elo is just an average of all the other Elos since I didn't know who was put in that slot.
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Post Post #215 (isolation #2) » Sat May 29, 2021 11:16 am

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Updated for Survivor of the Fittest:
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Post Post #217 (isolation #3) » Sat May 29, 2021 6:02 pm

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Fixed. 6-8 are distinct since all players were voted out at different times previously, which tiebreaks in most redemption scenarios.
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Post Post #237 (isolation #4) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 8:38 am

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Updated for Survivor: Pantheon
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Elo Changes for Survivor: Pantheon
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Current Top 15 Active*
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*provisional players not included
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Post Post #242 (isolation #5) » Sun Aug 22, 2021 2:35 pm

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In post 240, Skelda wrote:What is the cutoff for being considered active? I thought I'd be inactive by now.
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Post Post #249 (isolation #6) » Sun Oct 10, 2021 3:13 pm

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Updated Sheet for Survivor: Wes Anderson
link to sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =598422038

Elo changes for Survivor: Wes Anderson:
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Current Top 15 Active*
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*provisional players not included
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Post Post #257 (isolation #7) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 9:33 am

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In post 256, Korina wrote:how do i get to final elim before merge and go down in elo
is base elo seen as getting to merge?
So Elo is based on expected placement vs actual placement iirc, if you rank all of the elos, the 1200s come in a tie for 12th place. You came in joint 13th which is below that expected placement, so you lost Elo. Note that technically the math is more complicated than that (even if last place is the lowest they'll still lose elo) but that's a good rule of thumb. It's why someone with say a 1400 elo would lose points if they got 7th place but a 1300 would gain.
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Post Post #259 (isolation #8) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 10:47 am

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In post 258, Haschel Cedricson wrote:Doesn't it also depend on the ELO of other people in the game?
I mean yes, the calculation technically uses the average of all the other ELOs that aren't yours in the game, combined with your placement to determine how much you should lose/gain (you can see the exact formula by clicking on any value in the elo-post column). I just prefer the ranking idea cause it's easier for me to wrap my head around if I'm the 6th highest rated player, and I do better than 6th, I should go up, if I do worse, I should go down, even though there are more factors like how big a difference my Elo is from the other people at play.
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Post Post #260 (isolation #9) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 11:39 am

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Decided I may as well post the formula here. The K is just the k-value, the higher the k-value the more volatile the change.

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Post Post #262 (isolation #10) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:20 pm

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Max placement is just the number of player slots in the game, so for you that fraction was 23/23 = 1, the most anyone could gain is their k-value (usually 15) times the # of players in the game - 1 (though with the elo term that's technically an over estimate).
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Post Post #264 (isolation #11) » Tue Oct 12, 2021 4:34 pm

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20/20 actually, there were 21 player slots....
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Post Post #266 (isolation #12) » Mon Dec 20, 2021 5:25 am

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Another game more ELO updates
Link to Sheets: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1118280165

Changes for the Survivor: Three Houses:
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Top 15 Active Players*:
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*ambic would be in 14th place but is in the provisional section
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Post Post #277 (isolation #13) » Mon Jun 20, 2022 4:06 pm

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New Elo is Up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =598422038

Elo Changes from Adorable Critters Survivor
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Current Top 15 Active Players
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NOTE: thestatusquo's elo of 1367 would put him on this list.
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Post Post #279 (isolation #14) » Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:16 am

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In post 278, Cheery Dog wrote:Ethel's data there looks wrong.
It was but not for the reason you'd think. Ethel did play in 3 houses under a different username, elo has been updated/recalculated with this in mind.
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Post Post #280 (isolation #15) » Sun Sep 18, 2022 4:18 pm

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New Elo is Up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =598422038

Elo Changes from Survivor: Risk vs Reward
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Current Top 15 Active Players
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NOTE: thestatusquo's elo of 1367 would put him on this list.
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Post Post #287 (isolation #16) » Tue Sep 20, 2022 11:08 am

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In post 286, ambic wrote:The total played column needs updating. Formula doesn’t include RvR
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Post Post #289 (isolation #17) » Sun Feb 26, 2023 3:10 pm

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New Elo is Up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =337709270

Elo Changes from Genius: Final Encounter

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Current Top 15 Active Players
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Note: printableSquids with an Elo of 1439 would 9th if it included provisional players
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Post Post #292 (isolation #18) » Sun Aug 27, 2023 12:57 pm

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New Elo is Up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =337709270

Elo Changes from Survivor: Village

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Current Top 15 Active Players
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Note: stoive with 1579, DK with 1554, Elias_the_Thief with 1454 and printableSquids with 1439 would all be on this list if provisional players were inclued.
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Post Post #293 (isolation #19) » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:29 pm

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New Elo is Up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =337709270

Elo Changes from Survivor: Lights Camera Action

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Note: Elias_the_Thief with 1454 and printableSquids with 1439 would be on this list if provisional players were included.
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Post Post #295 (isolation #20) » Fri Mar 01, 2024 4:34 pm

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New Elo is Up: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1598984248

Elo Changes from Survivor: Animal Crossing

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Current Top 15 Active Players
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Note: Em with 1496, Elias_the_Thief with 1454, and printableSquids with 1439 would be on this list if provisional players were included.
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