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This is the last thing STD said before Mathblade flipped Town and he promptly got NKed.In post 11150, Save The Dragons wrote:mastina likes to bus so it's possible we've got mafia in {FL, Mathblade}
This obviously would point to FL.
On the other hand, the choice of NKing Keeper is more complex. Keeper had expressed interested in gladiating FL but told Nero that faer planned to take him down per my interpretation of the quoted. If I'm not misinterpreting, 11196 furthers the idea that fae was interested in gladiating Nero.In post 11199, The Keeper wrote:Other than genuinely having the worst attitude I've ever seen you have, you've been using subtle manipulations all game long.
And no, nothing does prevent me from gladiating you tomorrow - I said I'm going for FL though, and thats where I'm going. I'm sticking to what I've said.
And while I live, you're on Death's List - and I plan to take you down in due course.- Freedom
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I see.In post 11284, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Freedom - STD was likely a wolf kill based on being a monk. STD been one of my biggest defenders all game.
Thinking about your question, regardless of your alignment, only the Werewolves benefit from your elimination in the end.In post 11325, Flavor Leaf wrote: Do you think Wolves ever let me live tomorrow night, and risk me being Mafia and winning this game after all of this?
This is ironically the #1 reason that I am not really a threat.
I seriously don’t see anyone risking this unless they truly truly don’t believe I am Mafia.
Another thing which I found interesting is that even if you are Mafia, you won't benefit from a Werewolf win.
Thus, I would say that this post definitely got me completely swayed.- Freedom
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Same as you, TBH.In post 11364, Flavor Leaf wrote:I would like everyone to state their 2 biggest wolf reads.
While I think that tictac's ISO is adequate, I think that tictac feels more quiet than expected.
(Though I'm basing my knowledge of town!tictac on CONTROL, where they seemed quite proactive and involved.)
As for bnuuy, I think that Klick's response to them in 11359 sums up my concerns.- Freedom
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Oops.In post 11379, RH9 wrote:
Nah.In post 11372, tictac wrote:
r u an alt of someone from that game?In post 11368, Freedom wrote:CONTROL
I spectated.
Sorry.- Freedom
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TBH, SoD does feel a bit confused.In post 11402, Klick wrote: I would like everyone to legitimately, deeply think about these posts in the context of the rest of SoD's play and tell me what their read is on this behaviour. I'm less interested in a discussion about it influenced by others' opinions, and more interested in everyone's personal opinion on this when they look at it carefully.
This could be that they didn't read the mod posts.
However, another theory is that it could be a dumbtell.- Freedom
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Re: Nashville, they have consistently shown a Town mindset. While they aren't perfect as per the MathBlade lim, I would say that I trust them to be Town more than others.In post 11411, Menalque wrote:
Nashville?In post 11408, Freedom wrote:Town
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These are my current reads.
also I thought you thought I was scum, when/why did that change
Re: you, it changed when I read 11337. I think that the level of frustration that that post resonated didn't feel like something scum would be able to fake.- Freedom
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Uh, no.In post 11418, Sword of Ducks wrote:
listen here you lil shitIn post 11406, Freedom wrote:
TBH, SoD does feel a bit confused.In post 11402, Klick wrote: I would like everyone to legitimately, deeply think about these posts in the context of the rest of SoD's play and tell me what their read is on this behaviour. I'm less interested in a discussion about it influenced by others' opinions, and more interested in everyone's personal opinion on this when they look at it carefully.
This could be that they didn't read the mod posts.
However, another theory is that it could be a dumbtell.
do you have any idea the depths of my unintelligent bouts?
Could you enlighten me please?- Freedom
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Forgot to say this before but my reads on you and bnuuy are somewhat interchangeable.In post 11421, Sword of Ducks wrote:
Why am I your lowest opinion?In post 11408, Freedom wrote:Town
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I just distrust dumbtells.- Freedom
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Oh.In post 11431, bnuuy wrote:11427 was me being confused at how his friend’s mom being a narcissist related to the game
That makes sense.
I concur on your confusion too.- Freedom
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I agree.In post 11442, Flavor Leaf wrote:
If wolf, this probably confirms Wolves legitimately think I’m mafia.In post 11441, bnuuy wrote:Think flavor is mafia
Would say Mena, Ducks, and tic-tac feel like wolves
I like the 3 wolf picks, makes me more confident with my solve.
If bnuuy is a Werewolf, I'm confident that tictac is Werewolf too.
Though, I still need to reevulate my other reads for a third Werewolf.- Freedom
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You do realise that you're part of some people's PoE, right?In post 11465, Nashville Dreams wrote:If we lim FL, we go to 2 wolves in 5 alive. Elo.- Freedom
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Sounds like a good plan to me.In post 11469, Nashville Dreams wrote:The goal has to be lim scum first and hopefully show I am town that way. The goal is to keep us in control.- Freedom
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Because you are a Monk and the Werewolves think that you are Mafia.In post 11498, Flavor Leaf wrote:
@Sword - Freedom - do you two understand why Wolves always shoot me tonight if a Mafia is unflipped? Even if we flip ND and they flip Mafia, wolves shoot me over Klick.- Freedom
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Sure.In post 11502, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Freedom/Sword - Would you sheep me on TicTac? As someone who cannot be a Wolf. I feel TicTac is 100% obviously a wolf.
If it's between Mena, Nashville and tictac, I might as well vote for my highest read.
VOTE: tictac- Freedom
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Go ahead.In post 11513, Flavor Leaf wrote:Anyone else want to point out the reason why TicTac confirmed themselves as scum in that post- Freedom
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I see.In post 11517, Flavor Leaf wrote:
They’re saying I need that by going after the Mason + Wolves, trying to imply I’m going after a town Mason, but going after a townie loses the game from a MafiaLeaf POV, so in that scenario I wouldn’t need just a Mason. I’d need a wolf.In post 11514, Freedom wrote:
Go ahead.In post 11513, Flavor Leaf wrote:Anyone else want to point out the reason why TicTac confirmed themselves as scum in that post
That is true if you're Mafia, with a Town limmed, Werewolves NK one more and then they win but not Mafia.
If you're Town, limming town!tictac also isn't good for you.- Freedom
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Why can't we do that tommorrow?In post 11541, Menalque wrote:I would like to reiterate that not only is it the winning move but it also makes the game approx 1000x more playable and enjoyable if we lim FL today- Freedom
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EBWOPIn post 11544, Freedom wrote:
Why can't we do that tomorrow?In post 11541, Menalque wrote:I would like to reiterate that not only is it the winning move but it also makes the game approx 1000x more playable and enjoyable if we lim FL today
I agree.In post 11543, Klick wrote:This is scum!Menalque approximately 0% of the time- Freedom
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I am a bit worried about Nashville potentially being Town but then if both Mena and SoD are Town, then maybe Nashville is scum.In post 11549, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Sword / Freedom - You wanna just kill Nashville? TicTac voting there means they think they're Mafia or they're a wolf buddy and they're distancing.
Then I just get shot if Nash is a wolf, or I'm cleared if they're Mafia.
But then, SoD is null for me.- Freedom
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I understand but I don't exactly TR SoD.In post 11552, Flavor Leaf wrote:
If you, me, and Sword are all town, Nash has to be scum.In post 11551, Freedom wrote:
I am a bit worried about Nashville potentially being Town but then if both Mena and SoD are Town, then maybe Nashville is scum.In post 11549, Flavor Leaf wrote:@Sword / Freedom - You wanna just kill Nashville? TicTac voting there means they think they're Mafia or they're a wolf buddy and they're distancing.
Then I just get shot if Nash is a wolf, or I'm cleared if they're Mafia.
But then, SoD is null for me.
They're null.
So to me, if nobody wants to lim tictac, then Nashville is the next person for today.- Freedom
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Personally, I don't.In post 11556, Klick wrote:Yeah I'm not interested in aiming for wolves today. That can be Mafia's problem if we miss, it shouldn't be too hard at that point. I want to hit Mafia.
I'm still not sold that FL is like, *comfirmed* Mafia, but that is currently my highest suspicion. I know tictac thinks it's just FL. I'm interested if anyone has other suspicions.- Freedom
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That is interesting.In post 11560, Flavor Leaf wrote:TicTac changes right after the Nashville wagon got close to range
It feels a bit off that they changed so quickly.- Freedom
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I would prefer tictac being limmed before FL.In post 11601, Menalque wrote: I won’t vote yet in case ducks/freedom wanna respond to that- Freedom
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This is a lie.In post 11681, Nashville Dreams wrote:SoD Vanilla
Mastina not vanilla
Cassowary not vanilla
Keeper not vanilla
Bnuuy vanilla
Menalque vanilla
Freedom not vanilla
I am VT.
VOTE: Nashville- Freedom
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Are you now saying that I am indeed Vanilla?In post 11697, Nashville Dreams wrote:
must have been a mod fuck up then b/c its what we got.....In post 11688, Freedom wrote:But a genuine Vanilla Cop would've gotten me as Vanilla.
There's no way for them to have gotten me as not one.- Freedom
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Don't forget 11697 where Nashville backtracks and blames Ceph for messing up results.In post 11700, Klick wrote:I can't tell if you're trying to confuse us into not suspecting you or what.
Nashville claims Vanilla Cop
Nashville claims Freedom is Not Vanilla
Freedom claims Vanilla
= either Nashville or Freedom is lying.- Freedom
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I do?In post 11710, Nashville Dreams wrote:
Absolutely not. Scum freedom has to gamble on FL not shooting him because of no draw rules that have been highlighted. We're an easy miselimination.In post 11706, Klick wrote:
I'd like to hear a response to this from NashvilleIn post 11705, Freedom wrote:By the way, can anybody explain why scum!me doesn't just NK Klick instead of FL? It is more beneficial if scum!me wants to win.
FL wanted to shoot Mena. He said in 11663.- Freedom
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By the way, when was a Werewolf Roleblocker mentioned specifically to exist?In post 11715, Nashville Dreams wrote:We are also missing a wolf roleblocker or the like.- Freedom
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Not much before. I just did a few ISOs.In post 11731, Klick wrote:Freedom, when you read through upon replace-in, how much did you read? And how much would you say you have read since then?
I've been reading every page since though.- Freedom
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As I said in 11269, I trusted SoD when I repped in. I forgot what made me think that TBH.In post 11744, Klick wrote:Freedom, can you talk to me about your read on SoD as you replaced in? What were your initial thoughts on him, and why/how did they change? I want a fairly clear picture of how you read the slot over time, and what things changed your read.
It was your 11402 that led to me dropping SoD to a Wolf read due to my distrust of dumbtells. Then, SoD posted 11434. Their explanation on their confusion made sense to me so I moved them to Null as I said in 11435. Then, Titus scumclaimed with her faked VC results in 11681. This makes me deduce that SoD is Town.- Freedom
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I would be lying if I said that I remember.In post 11746, Klick wrote:
But this is the bit I'm most interested in! You had them as one of your four trusted players, surely there's something you can remember from your catch-up?In post 11745, Freedom wrote:As I said in 11269, I trusted SoD when I repped in. I forgot what made me think that TBH.- Freedom
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