Mini 2273: Science Diagrams That Look Like Shitposts 2 [END]

[Elsa Jay]

I mean I got a new spicy theory for scum Crescent if you wanna hear it Eira. I know it's getting old there but whatever.

Though if the Crescent Mastermind theory isn't worth pursuing it's something along the lines of either Vivax today. Or NotMaf has to go since if we're wrong again we're in MyLo and unable to just Launch NotMaf day 4.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean I got a new spicy theory for scum Crescent if you wanna hear it Eira. I know it's getting old there but whatever.

Though if the Crescent Mastermind theory isn't worth pursuing it's something along the lines of either Vivax today. Or NotMaf has to go since if we're wrong again we're in MyLo and unable to just Launch NotMaf day 4.

always up for theories elsa : P

what about gibus? u trust the claim at this point? Is gera on the table? Corwin conf town 2 u?

Actually the theory involves both Cres AND Gibus here honestly.

Let's be honest with ourselves. Do we really think there's 2 Protectives left, especially since the JOAT also had a 1-shot protective as well as a commuter? No. So while I want today to also focus on the other slots so we can find the partner, Gibus is probscum.

Let's start with Combined Doctor Checker as the first claim. Then in my first post after this I claimed [Redacted]-Enabler Bodyguard.

So while I mentioned it today, I also hinted earlier after Crescent ruthlessly tried to argue my [Redacted] was a scum claim because it implied a fifth PR. The mistake there was not assuming it was for any of the other claimed roles at the time. Slight shading there maybe? Not as important.

Then I get too confident and basically out what I really was with my hypothetical post mentioning scum Roleblocker. Didn't mean to basically spell it out there but oh well. So it's also why I believed at the time there was a Doctor Checker because it specifically also mentioned a Roleblocker counter ability while mine was an enabler.

But is it really surprising SCUM knows about a Roleblocker? And a Doctor who "heals" Crescent as the possible partner to basically garuntee they just never actually heal to prove it? Hell while I did crumb I was healing Crescent all signs pointed to Gibus wanting to heal Eira. His direct quote was "Eira Cres Alex, preferably Eira". It felt more weird to heal the same person twice in a row when as doc you'd rather try healing the Vigilante. Unless Gibus has mentioned anything about thinking Cres was Vig I don't think healing Cres is the town move there.

That and compared to Bodyguard who still gives scum a kill via my death to save someone, Doctor would prevent a kill entirely. If it wasn't a JOAT with two forms of protection available you could've argued Doctor was valid but it makes way more sense for it to be Bodyguard.

Here's the Flipped PRs

Non-consecutive Vigilante
Detective
JOAT (Follower Commuter Rolestopper Rolecop)

Does town seem better with a Doctor who appearantly KNOWS when they get Roleblocked, or a Bodyguard who's trying to die to disable a scum Roleblocker they enable? Town enabling Scum abilities is as common as well as town ones so I wasn't sure at the time but this confirms it to me.

I think Gibus is actually the Roleblocker claiming to be a doctor to have avoided getting launched and/or to get the actual PR to out themselves. But I think because I mentioned possibly being Roleblocker enabler they just probably Roleblocked me to prevent me from dying to keep their ability AND to keep cover. Particularly after the JOAT flip. Plus they'd still want to hunt the Vigilante too.

But with literally all the Other PRs dead I've outlived my usefulness so I'm dying tonight if we get Gibus, or if we didn't focus on us we would've been the two fighting in MyLo. Hence me stating it now Gibus is probably the evil one.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh also I'm taking the rest of the night off because Corwin once again being an insufferable prick because he hates me is making me kinda mad and I'm just not dealing with it this game anymore. I'm not letting him drag me down to his level again.

Dangit don't leave just when I get my long theory post out. I was typing that for like 15-20 minutes on my phone. Come Baaaacccckkkk.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean I haven't voted there yet since we'd still have to find the partner but yeah Doc is 99 percent fake.

[Elsa Jay]

Well at that point I either died getting shot, or saving a town Crescent so she'd still have to suffer playing this game. Not like I think I went anywhere tho with the Roleblocker around. Can't risk me offing myself.

And Eira, I put Toffee at E-1 before I went to bed and before the (still can't believe it happened) third PR claim that day. Toffee and Gibus talked and after claiming, Gibus still hammered anyway. Even if you argue Toffee was acting evil, I get that same leeway AND I wasn't awake when they claimed.

Edit: because I do technically wanna live and continue playing this game. So I'd rather us use our last possible free launch to find the partner first. If we get it wrong, scum can't afford to kill me and turns it into Me vs Gibus day 4 anyway. This way we can actually still solve and play the game.

Let's do it this way and make it fair. Everyone assume me or Gibus is lying. Now combine me and the other people alive and see who I'm with. Then let's see who's most likely to be with Gibus and see if we can conclude the scumteam and make a forfeit happen.

So yeah that lets us just have 12 pairing to look at today instead of an like 60.

[Elsa Jay]

Bleh. Fine. I just want to get the idea out there for others.

Let's solve this game.

[Elsa Jay]

Be careful with the NotMaf votes. He's self hammered before.

Anyway I'm ready for this wonderful Friday to solve the game more.

[Elsa Jay]

ah so one pr calling another scum takes back seat got ya

Which PR is calling someone scum.

Post #1946 if you are curious.

[Elsa Jay]

... are you.... Genuinely just not reading the same game we are? Did you not read ANY of my posts? God. That actually makes me angry.

VOTE: Vivax

[Elsa Jay]

On the off chance I stick here Corwin, out of the half dozen in your scum pool who's your appearantly 1 townread?

[Elsa Jay]

Acceptable answer.

[Elsa Jay]

A No Launch to get us back to 7? That would get us back to 2 launches. Seems impractical to sacrifice a townie for that though.

Would the plan be No Launch, then Launch NotMaf, then we're back to square one?

.... Actually that's a stupid idea we just end up with 5 people left instead of 6. We don't get an extra launch out of it.

[Elsa Jay]

If this game had spectators I genuinely wonder what they think of what we're doing. Like. Literally everyone here has been suspicious. Usually that's not the case. 1/4 of us are scum but we can't even have like 3 of us agree on a single target.

[Elsa Jay]

Guess we'll have to start with you then.

[Elsa Jay]

We will find out via launching one into space. Whether it be you or NotMaf is the question.

[Elsa Jay]

And you only do this after you make me angry enough to vote you? That just feels like distancing.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean I'm a troll too sometimes but I can also take the game seriously.

Do you think if we get rid of Corwin's hard on for getting rid of Vivax he'll do the townie thing and help us day 4? Cuz if Vivax flips red I promise I won't do anymore scum Cres theories and we can just end this stupid cycle.

And you only do this after you make me angry enough to vote you? That just feels like distancing.

Do you need to be angry with someone to vote for them?

It helps.

[Elsa Jay]

Corwin (when he isn't bothering you I guess) had wanted Vivax dead for over a week now and hasn't changed. If we start a wagon there he says he'll follow us there.

We pray Vivax is the scum between Vivax/NM and then town has enough votes to still win day 4.

[Elsa Jay]

Because they aren't as bad as NotMaf, Vivax, and Corwin to you?

[Elsa Jay]

Eh. The things that get you banned here is mostly just Transphobia, Sexism, Racism, other isms, or being a Moderate Republican or higher. You pick your poison when it comes to the sites Cres. This site just happens to value other things then most.

[Elsa Jay]

So it appears that site is the alternative timeline to this one. Fascinating. You still haven't told me/us it's name.

[Elsa Jay]

So it appears that site is the alternative timeline to this one. Fascinating. You still haven't told me/us it's name.

Gamefaqs. I'm the only woman who has played a game there for at least the last 2 years. The rest were already whittled out by the rampant misogyny.

For some reason I joined a Kingmaker game the last time I played. One of the bad ones was King and murdered me early on day 1 just for existing.

Sounds like a fun challenge to me. I'll keep that in mind if I visit there. But I guess we should focus on this game now.

[Elsa Jay]

Does that count as a self vote?

[Elsa Jay]

Well he wasn't close enough to being voted out yet to matter and the unvote happened anyway. But yeah NotMaf's self preservation has finally kicked in. Or he wants to be the only cow alive. You can never be to sure.

[Elsa Jay]

What's the vc?

Your slightly bigger blue cow cousin is at 4-5 votes. I'm not sure now.

[Elsa Jay]

Why do I gotta play peacekeeper here? Why is literally everyone against each other. Eira is legit the only other one not being stubborn. Why. I don't wanna be the mom of the group.

I regret my first post mentioning being town leader. This sucks.

[Elsa Jay]

And preferably a fast night too. Unless we wanna switch to NotMaf instead.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh I legit forgot we only need 5 people to launch.

[Elsa Jay]

Elsa NotMaf Gibus and Eira are voting Vivax. Make with that as you will.

[Elsa Jay]

Well for me it's mostly because he ignored my posts and all the chances I gave him and it'll just probably help patch things up with Corwin. And I guess frankly at least we get actual information out of Vivax dying. Nobody has really townread or scumread NotMaf. His death even as town or scum does nothing. A death that should've probably happened at the end of day 2 instead of Toffee but I digress. The troll thing also helps.

Basically while NotMaf is still trolling his vote at the VERY LEAST won't just instantly give scum victory. Vivax didn't even give me or Gibus any actual thoughts. Just... At this point it's a treaty to get rid of the one that people will agree more on. Hell I don't even know if it's scum with Gibus voting here but frankly I don't see the others voting NotMaf RN.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh durr I forgot Gera exists. Vivax/Gera is also a possible team. Vivax even said when he voted Gera earlier today that the vote wasn't serious and he still wanted to kill me and Corwin for reasons he has never quantified.

NM could be scum with most people. I feel like it's very limited who could be scum with Vivax.

Why is it when anyone mentions Gera they also have to mention they forgot he exists?

[Elsa Jay]

To be fair in this game when you are neither serious enough nor trolly enough you fade into the background.

Also I rechecked and I'm still the third most poster. And the one who's the balance between troll and serious. Fun times.

[Elsa Jay]

I still don't know what brought this personality shift from you. It's weird.

[Elsa Jay]

Eh. I can't answer for Gera. It's suspicious for me too but (and stop me if you heard this before) we got bigger problems RN. If he suddenly hammers like Owen did yeah do something about it. But at this point, unless Vivax flips town AND we can find enough evidence putting Gera and Gibus together, I don't think Gera is really worth anything atm. To me anyway.

[Elsa Jay]

When Eira spoke in riddles I still at least thought it sounded intelligent. What even is the statement above about?

[Elsa Jay]

NotMaf behave you actually been reading? Besides Vivax who do you want Elimed?

[Elsa Jay]

Didn't even mention thinking. Just your wanting of who to murder.

[Elsa Jay]

Gera doesn't seem to want to hammer. NotMaf is already voting. Vivax isn't self hammering. So the floor is yours Corwin.

[Elsa Jay]

I destroyed him with facts and logic so he's pouting in the scum PT.

[Elsa Jay]

net was down all day. didn't do any backreading cos of that, got no new info. vivax can flip town, maybe they just decided to don N_M skirt and go to da max. who knows. but....

@Vivax u haven't claimed(xpect saying ur 'town') even being at -1. so........... yeh.

Why bother asking for claims after all the flips and me and Gibus claiming? He would've CCd already if town.

[Elsa Jay]

Why bait when he could've just self hammered then?

[Elsa Jay]

A cow isn't supposed to sheep.

VOTE: NotMaf

There can only be one.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah we know. Or at least I know. There's literally no reason why a town PR wouldn't claim today anyway. Any info is better than nothing.

[Elsa Jay]

His life is in danger. It appears it finally made him wanna focus on the game.

[Elsa Jay]

I realized siding with the person I assume is a fake Doctor on Vivax is probably a stupid idea so I have decided to switch to NotMaf.

[Elsa Jay]

Well at this point it's more for town's benefit then mine. Going into day 4 after a Gibus launch also means scum 10 times outta 10 kill me too as a proven PR.

That would leave Eira, Crescent, Corwin, NotMaf, Gera, and Vivax left alive. You six will never agree with each other with all of you alive. Hypothetically it could also end in Eira dying instead of me but the result still stands.

[Elsa Jay]

And I'm selfish and don't really wanna die and keeping Gibus alive forces scum to keep my alive a day longer to keep the fake claim up. That I didn't mention as much.

Edit: hence getting rid of NotMaf now and trying to actually know who's the final partner with Gibus is best. Let's pray Gibus voted Vivax to launch as an indication of Vivax being town similar to Corwin being town because of Owen.

So yeah NotMaf first and day 4 we'll get Gibus.

[Elsa Jay]

That's an unfair comparison. Gibus has been vote hopping to each possible wagon tho. Completely different.

[Elsa Jay]

You go girl. Can't say being the translator and saying a few of Corwin's posts every once in awhile sounds fun but I'll reword anything he says in a nice way for you I guess. So you know what's going on.

But yeah now it's just the wagons. Eira is still "studying" the thread but said the power went out so I'll cut that some slack. So it's just up to the rest of us to pick up the slack.

I think Gibus over extended here by giving away Vivax isn't bad. At this point I doubt it Crescent cuz even I don't believe my theories anymore. I know I'm not bad and Corwin is still cleared from Owen.

So the remaining thing is Gibus/NM, Gibus/Eira, or Gibus/Gera.

Cres you still think Eira is good even after the significant drops into day 2 and day 3 today?

[Elsa Jay]

The traitor argument is still there obviously. Not knowing your teammate means if you screw up it sucks. Better for them both to possibly get credit for it as town then nothing. And to possibly pocket you. Not like scum knew George was actually a PR. I only guessed from playing with people like that before. And egging townies to kill other townies is very much scummy.

Edit: it appears Corwin now wants to kill the bodyguard over the doctor claim. Wonderful.

[Elsa Jay]

Why did you ask gibus who he protected, and then claim to protect the same person? That seems incredibly convenient.

-Corwin

You can literally see the first post on day 3 after the nakes vote from Gibus I was the one who said I protected Crescent. He was the one who said "same".

I'm the one who's at the very least tried to lead us today. He still never responded to my argument for him. In what world am I the vote here?

[Elsa Jay]

Hmm. I'd only argue that Eira wanted to make a good impression day 1 by putting herself out there is best for scum because it's way easier to high effort the beginning as scum then slide into the background afterwards.

What was Eira's immediate reaction after Gibus claimed? Helpful, prodding, seeming to instantly believe it? That might be the evidence for town or scum Eira.

[Elsa Jay]

Possibly Gibus but sure. Who do you wanna target if not that then? I almost wanna just keep Crescent alive

to make her suffer

to make sure town activity doesn't die.

Here's the rather obvious crumb you didn't look for Corwin. It's in the same post I asked Gibus who to protect. They mentioned preferably Eira but went with Cres.

I've already said why I'm leaving Gibus alive. I genuinely feel me being alive is best for town RN and scum will leave me alive in order to actually have room for their claim.

Today it seems best to either get rid of NotMaf or find the last scum outta the other options. I've already crossed out you, Cres, and Vivax now.

So it's Eira, Gera, or NotMaf. We've nearly solved it today. That's why I'm doing this. If we basically get rid of one of the last remaining partners we know who's the evil remaining.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh I guess during that hectic time it was Alex and you reacting to our claims. I substituted Alex for Eira in my head during that time I guess.

Yeah that ain't good.

[Elsa Jay]

I do actually feel better having this conversation about Eira too. Feels it helps us actually solve.

[Elsa Jay]

Well minor trolling is okay. Having trolling and lurkers and having literally nobody trust another is a different story.

[Elsa Jay]

You know for a guy who has we've been wanting to get rid of since day 1, the surprising amount of resistance on NotMaf right now is weird.

[Elsa Jay]

Resistance as in time taken for it to happen. Wording sucked there. Bleh.

[Elsa Jay]

Did Gibus finally come out and try and save his partner from a launch? We appear to be doing something right.

[Elsa Jay]

Well me talking about it appearantly got Eira back into the game mindset. So I don't regret it.

[Elsa Jay]

Corwin do you seriously wanna be responsible for this town voting out three town PRs in a row by voting me?

[Elsa Jay]

I like living. If it's townie to die I don't like doing it. Hell BG is antithetical to my playstyle. If Gibus dies then scum kill me Tonight. If he lives he can't kill me.

What's so hard to understand there?

[Elsa Jay]

I did Cres. Second or third post for day 3 from me.

[Elsa Jay]

So your saying they possibly Roleblocked the Bodyguard instead of the Doctor who says he can confirm he's Roleblocked?

I wonder why.

[Elsa Jay]

It took me a few minutes of debate to decide if I wanted to share the Roleblock-Enabler part of my role or just claim pure BG. I decided on the Redacted thing instead as a compromise.

[Elsa Jay]

Rolestopper here just Roleblocks anybody who targets the specific player who was Rolestopped. It doesn't actually Roleblock the targeted person here.

[Elsa Jay]

Eh. Strongman just goes through anything. It takes priority.

[Elsa Jay]

That IS the clarification. The mods just don't make every role PM go "except Strongman" or "Minus Ninja" because it's common sense I guess?

[Elsa Jay]

It was less the time and more the claim had to be entirely premediated early on.

I went back over Elsa's claim and did find something interesting. For some reason I remember her reacting way more harshly to me than she did (Was it someone else? There's basically nothing in her reaction to me), but there's something even better:

Because if [Redacted] is either Doctor or Detective or possibly for scum's Roleblocker I'm not outting that shit until they kill me and see it on my card.

I'm not giving anymore hints on what it actually is.

This is a mere 10 posts after her claim in response to getting pressed, which is a direct as hell crumb, though she apparently never mentions this crumb specifically on day 3. Considering Elsa could

not

have known at the time a Jack with protective powers would flip, this is a pretty direct hint to why town Elsa would trust Gibus here. The specific fact that a different protection flipped could not have been part of a premeditated scum plan. Without that, Elsa's claim doesn't really do any significant harm to Gibus no matter what she does.

Fun fact I did also mention that crumb day 3.

But yeah I might as well out it since appearantly all the other PRs are dead. I enable a Roleblocker. Hence why I believed in the Doctor-Checker claim. I was kinda hoping to die last night instead to end scum having it but if only two Protectives are alive I have to reason to hide it now.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Gibus

Well I guess scum kill me tonight but frankly from the solving I'm seeing you guys won't screw it up. Guess I should be less selfish in the future.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah at least I've tried all day. Gibus didn't even attempt to solve my potential partners like I suggested he do after I made my argument. I'd say we found Gibus' possible partners well enough. With so many people confirmed on the flip the final scum would have literally no chance anyway.

Corwin, I'll admit I didn't do the most townie things today. But I genuinely want the town to succeed here. I could've been useless after my Gibus accusations but I still game solved and contributed today. Gibus kept skirting around the issue until giving up and just vote parked me. Please just even compare how me and Gibus played day 1 and 2 as well. We would've launched him if he didnt fake claim doctor.

[Elsa Jay]

Elsa/Me is a literal joke of a team when I could hammer either Vivax or NM and win the game.

We could be trolling. You never know Cres.

Edit: what more am I supposed to say now? Me arguing more for it isn't getting me anywhere. So I'll stick with Corwin and finally get Gibus out to appease him. But now he's just voting me instead. Bleh.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: NotMaf

Will it go anywhere this time?

[Elsa Jay]

Do I need a reason to be stupid for fun?

Seriously tho what's the VC this sucks.

[Elsa Jay]

VOTE: Gibus

Considering I know Corwin is against me regardless, and Gibus is scum, plus the scum partner means 3 votes for sure on me. That means the remaining 5 town gotta vote Gibus soon then.

[Elsa Jay]

Is it even a serious vote if it lasted for 5 minutes? You read too hard into some things Cres.

[Elsa Jay]

If you launch your third PR in a row because of a troll vote Cres I will shame you in the dead thread.

Vivax plz vote Gibus again.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah blame the vigi who actually shot the traitor for us. That'll show em.

[Elsa Jay]

We forgive you. Lead us to salvation Cres.

[Elsa Jay]

What are you a cat?

[Elsa Jay]

When I first heard demi sexual I just thought a lot of people really wanted Demi Levato as a kid.

[Elsa Jay]

You know, I just realized the fact that our Mod is super slow with this stuff might actually be a gimmick for the sloth picture. Or so they don't run out of images so soon.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean. Personally I feel as a town who's launched 3 PRs in a row, we might deserve to lose this. I'm not voting myself but at this point I don't know what else to fucking do.

Scum legitimately did Roleblock me here. It sucks.

[Elsa Jay]

Well considering you just voted me after literally being absent most of this game I kinda don't believe you either.

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah. I don't know what the hell kinda balance this was unless they clearly expected the vigilante to shoot town first or Mafia have a Roleblocker AND a Strongman.

VOTE: No Kill

[Elsa Jay]

Disengaging from a game is never a townie thing to do, yeah.

[Elsa Jay]

Well shit.

Not like I was ever gonna protect there anyway (I protect Corwin) but scum killed the one guy I didn't expect.

Hopefully Cres actually wants to play today and we don't instantly vote again. But we'll see.

[Elsa Jay]

@Mod: Can you verify launching at 3 yesterday was not a mod error (should have been 4)?

No launches take 50% exactly to go through. Particularly on evens. It's in effect for things like the 2v4 MyLo situation.

Dunno why it's like that but every game I do in normal that's how it works.

[Elsa Jay]

I respectfully disagree.

Also what's with this site and black cat pics? Your the fourth one I know with that exact cat breed.

[Elsa Jay]

Based on Gera being one of the two people to vote me yesterday along with Cres also advocating it today, I think my time in this world is limited.

So you trust me Vivax?

[Elsa Jay]

Are you... Specifically leaving Corwin alive in order to act like this Cres? This defeatist mindset is definitely not townie.

[Elsa Jay]

Well at this rate I guess I'll have to stick with a cross vote. I genuinely don't know anything besides scum having a Roleblocker, but with multiple forms of protection I gotta assume last scum is either a ninja, a Strongman, or an investigation role themselves. That's the only way this balance makes sense. Or they were bulletproof anyway against the vigi. Game balance is hard.

VOTE: Crescent

Please trust me here, even if I've been wrong in the past. I don't know what else to do here.

[Elsa Jay]

And yet again Gera doesn't exist. Bleh.

So from the appearantly 3 remaining townies, what's the play here Viv, Cor?

... Those nicknames don't sound genuine. I'll stick to Vivax and Corwin.

[Elsa Jay]

Happy America day BTW.

[Elsa Jay]

Let's see if we can at least make this day 3 pages longs. Unlike the half of a page day 4 was.

[Elsa Jay]

Oh. I kinda assumed it would've been Vivax who voted Cres to end the game. Gera hammered their partner?

[Elsa Jay]

Elsa Kills Corwin
Vivax joins the Mafia
Gera is there

...

Seriously though how in the hell did this town launch 3 PRs in a row and I didn't wanna do any of them? I tried saving George, I didn't even try that hard to launch Toffee when I tried to pocket there, and it was you guys who wanted to solve the Protection PRs when I just wanted a quick launch on NotMaf or Vivax.

I don't know if the rest of the player list is still reading, but I genuinely wanna know how in the world this happened.

[Elsa Jay]

If it makes you feel better I WAS a bodyguard and was always gonna claim that. Just a traitor enabling one that if I died the Traitor joined the main scum thread. I even Bodyguarded people because I could guess there was a tracker like role. So if Gold had followed me it would've shown me as protecting something.

But the Vigi killed the Traitor immediately night 1 and so we only had Gera as the Roleblocker to do anything meaningful. But we also didn't need it with the town launching them for us and Gibus outting the checker modifier actually meant we couldn't RB anyone besides the Vigilante... Who we also killed n2 and wouldn't have been able to shoot anyway. And Gibus getting RBed probably confirmed I would've been the bad guy.

Soooo you guys basically fought 2 normal vanilla Mafia at the end.

[Elsa Jay]

I got time to answer any other questions if you got em Vivax.

[Elsa Jay]

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I made a comment on this list when we both saw it but it's also funny that not only did RNG put Me and Gera up top in the green despite being scum, it also put the 2 of the PRs in the bottom with Gibus just below us.

[Elsa Jay]

NotMaf mentioned in a later post that the rainbow readlist was made from a random number generator then putting himself at the bottom. So RNG told him we were town, in a sense.

[Elsa Jay]

I mean. If you made up with Corwin you could've won it easily Cres. Or just... I guess didn't just say "just do it" for day 4 and 5. Gera was ready to get rid of me and I elim you for a chance to win but day 4 was weird.

[Elsa Jay]

I genuinely think if it wasn't for the fact Gold seemed noob enough to check someone who was such an obvious Vigi bait, it would've worked out. And I legit called in thread for vigi to shoot Owen... That's an oops from me. Honestly thought he was the town and Corwin was my partner at first, I think. Until he hammered and basically scum claimed.

But yeah launching the two people able to investigate back to back? Weird.

[Elsa Jay]

At least it was an interesting game to follow (although I'd rather not be a ghost most of the time).

Sorry Clidd. Unfortunately my scum style is killing people like you day 1. You seemed chill and you might've prevented the wrecks that were day 2 or 3. Also why I liked the Alex kill.

I go after the people who are more likely to stop stuff going out the window and leave people like Vivax, Cres, and Corwin alive even if they're confirmed town because they kinda create enough conflict that this stuff happens.

[Elsa Jay]

Couldn't afford to kill you or Vivax since I think we were expecting one of you to get launched. Then it turned into needing one of you to vote out Cres. Didn't trust NotMaf with that responsibility so he got the axe.

[Elsa Jay]

To be fair, it took Gibus 2 whole days to actually counter my case of a scum him and I put in a bunch of effort day 3. I don't blame her or Eira for going for Gibus first there.

[Elsa Jay]

I still don't get what your plan was this game Owen. You were about to get launched if it wasn't for Cres and some others going after George at the last second. If you didn't hammer you probably would've not gotten shot by Alex either by his own admission.

So uh... What happened?

[Elsa Jay]

Yeah I guess in hindsight it wasn't that bad. If he justified it with "it's a fake claim" like Cres was doing it would've been better tho. I guess me randomly defending there had already doomed the George slot. Eh. Another universe it probably happened that way.