Open 854 | Eurybia's Curse | Game Over!

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HEAL: Coral

Ari 2 (Coral, Meuh)
Coral 2 (Meuh, Ari)
GuiltyLion 1 (Coral)
Titus 1 (Coral)
Isis 1 (Meuh)

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healing is not for 100% town

its picking who you want to make a decision on the elimination today

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Ari 5 (Coral, Meuh, Pavo, Skit, GLion)
Coral 4 (Meuh, Ari, Glion, Isis)
Meuh 2 (Skit, Glion)
Isis 2 (Meuh, Glion)
GLion 1 (Coral)
Titu 1 (Coral)
Skit 1 (Pavo)


Let me know if I missed your heals. to make it easy for me just heal the people you want to lead in your newest post pls.

Still looking for heals from... Gamma, SirCakez, Titus, TUF, Marci

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whoever gets elected will pick the elimination via whatever means they want

Drawing names from a magical hat, tossing a fishbone, proxying to someone else are all valid options.

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it'd be funny if the entire scum team hasn't voted yet because they have no idea how to manipulate this kind of system versus voting

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like what r they going to do

vote for their buddies and look bad when they start escaping?

they basically have to figure out who makes sense to be townread and who is unlikely to throw them off the boat

for town its just who do you think is the towniest rn

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it is actually kind of wild to me that Pavo voted for me and you when we almost threw him off the boat like 2 days ago -.-

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that sounds lit af i might steal your idea

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Ari 5 (Coral, Meuh, Pavo, Skit, GLion)
Coral 4 (Meuh, Ari, Glion, Isis)
Meuh 2 (Skit, Glion)
Isis 2 (Meuh, Glion)
Titus 2 (Coral, Gamma)
Skit 2 (Pavo, Gamma)
GLion 1 (Coral)

Let me know if I missed your heals. to make it easy for me just heal the people you want to lead in your newest post pls.

Still looking for heals from... SirCakez, Titus, TUF, Marci

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I'm actually fine taking a shot on Gamma and sending Cakeboi out on an iceberg now that I think about it

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but I have seen Cakes completely disappear as town before so it's tough

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yes i dont wanna play this "boost someones ego by letting only them choose the vote" game, if i wanted to play a game like that i wouldve signed up for a game like that.

i am actually horrified and slightly terrified of picking

i am not doing this for my ego lol

just heal whoever you trust the most to make the shot

steph curry went 0/9 from three point land in game 5 and the warriors still won

it's just a game.

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cmon marci ilu pls for me

let's just have our fun boat party and pick a DJ

even if the DJ turns out to have shitty taste in music at least we get to dance

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yes

morale is so important

let's just get going pls

losing isn't even a big deal it's just a game !

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Ari 5 (Coral, Meuh, Pavo, Skit, GLion)
Coral 4 (Meuh, Ari, Glion, Isis)
Meuh 2 (Skit, Glion)
Isis 2 (Meuh, Glion)
Titus 2 (Coral, Gamma)
Skit 2 (Pavo, Gamma)
GLion 1 (Coral)

Refuses 1 (Marci)


Let me know if I missed your heals. to make it easy for me just heal the people you want to lead in your newest post pls.

Still looking for heals from... SirCakez, Titus, TUF


We only have 5 days left

SC, Titus, TUF pls heal who you trust to make a decision

we need to do something because we are getting nowhere rn.

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I am honestly having trouble with the apathy in this game.

like i get it if you cant figure out who mafia is

but it really shouldnt be that hard to pick a single townread and heal them if you have only one townread(which i do and i have no issue with that)

or just say you dont want to heal anyone because you trust noone

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Ari 5 (Coral, Meuh, Pavo, Skit, GLion)
Coral 4 (Meuh, Ari, Glion, Isis)
Meuh 2 (Skit, Glion)
Isis 2 (Meuh, Glion)
Titus 2 (Coral, Gamma)
Skit 2 (Pavo, Gamma)
GLion 1 (Coral)

Refuses 2 (Marci, Titus)


Let me know if I missed your heals. to make it easy for me just heal the people you want to lead in your newest post pls.

Still looking for heals from... SirCakez, TUF


We only have 5 days left

SC, TUF pls heal who you trust to make a decision

we need to do something because we are getting nowhere rn.

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anarchy is getting us nowhere and the last person you spearheaded was town

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basically the same thing as doing nothing

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sure

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I dont think its exactly all 3 of them

~

It is now 7:55pm. I got to the airport at 6pm for a 8:30pm flight. After i got to the airport, the following has happened, in order (and i got informed via app, it was impossible to speak to an agent):
- flight got cancelled
- they rebooked me on a flight leaving at 4:30
- that flight got delayed to 10:05

the next morning??



yikes

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it feels like we r just going to end up voting out pavo or fruit and im not sure how i feel about that

i have seen pavo try much harder. this is just weird from him

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mmm good luck ! hope your flight actually gets off the ground tonight

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Ari 6 (Coral, Meuh, Pavo, Skit, GLion, Cakes)
Coral 4 (Meuh, Ari, Glion, Isis)
Meuh 2 (Skit, Glion)
Isis 2 (Meuh, Glion)
Titus 2 (Coral, Gamma)
Skit 2 (Pavo, Gamma)
GLion 1 (Coral)

Refuses 2 (Marci, Titus)


I guess this is final since TUF isn't around.

I'm going to do a final re-read[24 hours] and make a decision on who I want to lim.

If Coral feels really strongly about killing someone I am happy to abdicate the throne to her.

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Cakez can you like catch up and give me some

original

thoughts of your own please? It would be really helpful for me and I'm kind of worried about you atp you really dropped off

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yea i highly doubt people are going to answer a questionaire atp it feels like the game is dead and people just want to lim someone

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That would somewhat be true, but that's mostly cause I haven't gotten the chance to really be present or interact, plus if my death moves the game forward then I don't see an issue as long as we're not in mylo

is this going to change soon because we have like 4 days left on the deadline

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What's the current discussion topic about?

we're talking about who to kill

I've been elected Queen and I'll make a decision soon.

I am happy to hear everyone's thoughts about who they want to kill.

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did Fruit indicate to you he had any idea that Ari was elected Queen? that he even knows what Ari's reads are?

I'm not even sure what my reads are

if I get nowhere in my reread I'm 100% using my lucky hat

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would be such a sick performance

entire town befuddled by n00b on his first game who pretends he has no clue what he's doing but is really a scum god

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hi faker *waves*

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We know that ari reads u better than i do

I don't think that game is an accurate representation of skill or my ability to read her because 90% of the read was based on mech - I am probly worse than you when it comes to reading people in a mountainous game.

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omg its gorgeous

best post so far this game

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i abdicate the throne to isis because her tiara is too pretty to be scum

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im not as loved as faker i see how it be...

yall didnt even ask for an update on if i liked the dresses... fake friends everywhere...

hurtful towards me

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I tried to pass the crown to you already

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I just want you to put on your beautiful new tiara and pick out a person to execute

it will be fun

win or lose

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VOTE: Pavo

can't argue with that

it looks beautiful on you

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I can't get over how amazing Isis looks in her sundress and tiara

If this is wrong I don't want to be right

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well we'd get 5 innos if pavo is mafia

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I guess we're waiting for skitter to come back from VLA and faker to get fully caught up?

no reason to rush it I guess let's think hard

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I think we go back to boat partying until everyone is caught up?

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[7] Beat: Titus, Meuh, GuiltyLion, marcistar, Gamma Emerald, Aristeia, Isis


It's actually crazy the wagon on Pavo has [5/7] of the Beat Wagon [Titus, GLion, Ari, Meuh, Isis]

If Faker hammers it would make it 6/7.

Skitter is our sole new entrant and Marci has decided to go try fruit hunting instead.

TUF is still loudly objecting and wants to kill Marci.

I'm not feeling great but Pavo is literally giving me nothing to work with.[Reminds me of Beat actually]

Queen Isis how are we feeling about this execution?

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the more i think about it the more likely i think our core group is all or mostly town because it feels pretty cheeky for scum to group push like this multiple times together.

I guess out of all the core group i feel the worst about Titus atp

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another thing I was considering is that if Pavo is town and there are scum off wagon, then a scum could simply hammer him now and escape and theres no reason for this wagon to stall.

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has faker posted a read of me yet?

she insinuated that you are terrible at giving directions.

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I wanted to give faker more time to catch up and skitter is on vacation

are you town pavo?

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like as adorable as your kids are, if you are town can you do some townie things pls

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so if pavo is town there should already be a scum on the wagon right?

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well this game is good in that we only need to elim one scum to win on d3/4 so hope springs eternal

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we can't be lost dear. our yacht has gps

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maybe all the scum r off wagon and they r busy discussing who should hammer and escape but they cant make up their minds

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maybe fruit and marci r screaming at each other to hammer and escape but niether of them will listen to the other and sircakes is getting high somewhere and completely awol

this would be the funniest timeline

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I turned my brain off last week I'm planning to sheep Isis because she's amazing.

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If Coral or Skitter is scum I'm literally gonna quit mafia

towniest post cakes has made all game

lol

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also good chance he might quit mafia tbh lol

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also good chance he might quit mafia tbh lol

Am I wrong to assume whatever role skitter played in the Pavowski vote is clearing?

Perpetual MELO she was very disinclined to bus; the mechanic in this game is similar.

its weird to me that skitter/coral didnt get cleared but could be wifom i really dunno

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I am ready to be carried by Queen!Isis

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I colored in the VCs in excel for Titus to analyze ^_^

Spoiler: Colored VCs

Interesting things;

the all town marci-wagon at 2.2
TUF counterwagon to Pavo.
(4/7) Beat Wagoners are revealed as Town.

I think VCA feels like it looks bad for Marci? I'm not very good at VCA tho so hopefully better people can do it ^_^

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i just remember skitter being 2nd voter on Pavo after Meuh and I had already committed to sheep her atp so she knew she was essentially double voting him and putting him at 3

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I think the scummiest vote by VCA is probably Meuh shifting from Pavo -> TUF at 2305 because she opened wanting Pavo but when Pavo became a thing she went towards TUF ?

I think this makes the most sense in the world where Gamma is protecting Pavo and shading TUF around 2299 and she just kind of tried to ride with it?

Like maybe she wanted to distance off Pavo, shade him a bit, then once he became a thing she took the nearest off ramp.

Then when Faker replaced into the Gamma slot and unvoted it killed the wagon and she jumped off pretty fast.

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this isn't just about everyone SRing me atp
no one even wants to talk shop with me, no one wants to fucking discuss my suspicions, and when I say me + marci aren't scum with actual logic behind it I get dismissed, but narci giving a joke reason gets accepted
I'm fucking sick of this shit!

this reaction from gamma to Pavo joking with Marci might be highly anti-partner'd actually

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yeh, fair enough I can understand that

maybe scum!Pav is trying to plant an associative with you and scum!marci

idk I'm trying to find town in {Pav/marci/Gamma} cause I do agree with skitt I don't think that's all three scum and possibly not even two, and you're currently my gut feel most likely to be town, but I think if that's the case you may be townreading a scum somewhere

lol if tru

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this isn't just about everyone SRing me atp
no one even wants to talk shop with me, no one wants to fucking discuss my suspicions, and when I say me + marci aren't scum with actual logic behind it I get dismissed, but narci giving a joke reason gets accepted
I'm fucking sick of this shit!

this reaction from gamma to Pavo joking with Marci might be highly anti-partner'd actually

i should clarify

I mean Gamma(faker) is highly anti-partner'd with Pavo cuz this kind of reaction feels crazy if they are actually S/S

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I think the scummiest vote by VCA is probably Meuh shifting from Pavo -> TUF at 2305 because she opened wanting Pavo but when Pavo became a thing she went towards TUF ?

I think this makes the most sense in the world where Gamma is protecting Pavo and shading TUF around 2299 and she just kind of tried to ride with it?

Like maybe she wanted to distance off Pavo, shade him a bit, then once he became a thing she took the nearest off ramp.

Then when Faker replaced into the Gamma slot and unvoted it killed the wagon and she jumped off pretty fast.

I think rereading the section of the game from 2051 where Meuh first votes Pavo to 2305 where she moves to TUF, I don't think it makes sense for her to do this because Pavo was kind of not very townie in this stretch and fruit didn't do much scummy stuff?

I dunno if this makes sense -.-

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i dont understand why you moved to tuf after pav go to 5

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Marci what's your read on Meuh rn?

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Marci what's your read on Meuh rn?

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@Meuh what's your read on Marci rn?

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yea I did sorry :<

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Ari 6 (Coral, Meuh, Pavo, Skit, GLion, Cakes)
Coral 4 (Meuh, Ari, Glion, Isis)
Meuh 2 (Skit, Glion)
Isis 2 (Meuh, Glion)
Titus 2 (Coral, Gamma)
Skit 2 (Pavo, Gamma)
GLion 1 (Coral)

Refuses 2 (Marci, Titus)

I think this is also important to track for VCA. I don't know if Ari was especially clear about who she would be likely to pick, but it seems that Pav at least thought that there was a chance she wouldn't pick him. If he thought that, others on the scum team may have thought so as well

maybe the scum team really thought I would use my lucky hat and that's better odds than the inevitable death of Pavo

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your radiance was undeniable

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Oh I was also thinking about meuh's post

Do you think Pavowski is scummier individually or more vca, flow of the tides.

To me he's scummy in a circumstantial way if that makes any sense?
The general position he's in, the way he has interacted with others and others have treated him, the feeling of some people being aware of him being scummy, while some seem to prefer ignoring his existence, I guess. It all makes me uneasy.

Who do you think falls into each camp here?

hmmm
I assume you mean the camp of aware vs ignoring?
I'm gonna take a look at people's ISOs to get the accurate picture of it all
Note that ignoring doesn't mean no mention of Pav, it means more so less harsh stances and less attention on him:

Aware: Me, Titus, Ari, Coral, GL
Ignoring: Marci, Fruit, Worstie, Gamma, Isis, Cakez, Skitter
Pavowski: Pavowski

Things that stuck out to me while looking at this:
-Coral and TW have given significantly different amounts of attention to Pav.
-Isis barely mentions him, considering her postcount
-It's even worse for Skitter, who also barely mentions him. From what I can see she literally didn't talk about him until 1691, which is impressive.

Does this post feel like Meuh is pre-emptively preparing to tie people to Pavo and make him sink them to the bottom of the ocean?

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Looking at how Pavo became a thing on D2:


2051 Meuh votes Pavo (1)
2057 Ari says would vote Pavo
2060 Cakes says would vote Pavo
Me, Skitter Isis have a convo about wagonning Pavo to "try it"
2075 Skitter votes Pavo (2)
2077 Ari votes Pavo (3)
2099 Titus says "consider her vote on Pavo too" while voting Isis
2128 Titus votes Pavo (4)
2129 GLion says he might vote Pavo after sleeping on it
2143 Isis "Pavowski where r u?"
2152 A Wild Pavowski appears!
2182 This post by Gamma I think is her most town!indicative one because it's so off the charts in the emotional spew.. She seems extremely upset that Pavowski accepted Marci's "joke reason" while dismissing her "thought out reason" which is kind of insane for her to have that reaction to her scum partner. If this is Scum!Gamma faking it, I'm very impressed by this because it looks so real.
2205 GLion votes Pavowski
2219 Meuh begins to pivot to Fruit by POE? Like this is such a weird look to me because I don't see why she's changing her mind on Pavowski who she wanted to begin with.
2233 Coral writes a bit about Pavo. Is this scum fencesitting or town expressing a nuanced deep thought? I lean toward the latter but I'm biased she looks so good in her sundress
So in this sequence Coral writes a really long post about skitter
Gamma votes Coral
Coral votes Gamma
Isis votes Skitter
lots of chaos

2296 Gamma says some stuff about TUF
2299 Meuh says TUF is chilling inf wolf chat
2300 Gamma wants to deal with TUF
2303 Marci says Fruit is weird
2305 Meuh votes TUF
2311 Isis says maybe we flip Pav
2313 Meuh post on Awareness of Pavo [feels super weird for someone who just vote switched off Pavo]
2318 Ari unvotes Pavo [Hat Plan LOL]

Titus is calling out Meuh for "derailing" Pavo here.

Then there's a bunch of stealth fighter memes and townblocking time.

Uh I dunno I feel maybe I'm confbiased on Meuh unvoting.

Because I guess if Meuh!scum thinks TUF/Gamma are never voting for Pavo, she can just unvote and the wagon never gets over the edge right?

It's like maybe she was just doing it to distance, started it on pavo a few times, then it gained traction and she didn't actually want to ram it through or she wanted to make her own position on the wagon look worse so it wouldn't be a "huh" moment when she doesn't get conftowned?

I dunno I think I'm spinning in circles here on meuh.

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I guess I'm just confused why Meuh decides to unvote where she did because

(1) Pavo didn't do anything townie
(2) the people voting Pavo and joining her weren't being scumread by her?

it's such a weird hop off to me.

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If my read on meuh is wrong all my reads are wrong

Ok except coral I guess

I trust your reads I am ready to sheep the Queen again

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ok but why would you think skitter's lack of engagement with Pavo is susp while unvoting Pavo and voting for Fruit?

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like my issue with 2313

is that you seem to find skitter - pavo relationship susp because lack of engagement

but you're not voting skitter or pavo, you're voting for fruit?

it's not like you're saying weird there's nothing here between skitter and pavo therefore Skitter = scum or pavo = scum or they're both scum together. You're saying actually it should be fruit?

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if meuh is scum she won't be here after you flip town dear

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If you flip town I think most of the reasons I get paranoid about faker goes away so that is nice

I don't really get this. It implies you're worried about S/S for me/skitter but not S/T. I really don't understand this one; our catfight is borderline gamethrowing. There is no need to do loops in the sun and be shocked if the wings melt instead of just flying straight. There's a lot more reason for skitter to be skeptical of me in T/S or to prod for vulnerability in S/T.

skitter spent a lot of time defending gamma from pushes during d1/d2

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I think Meuh going all in on you means she escapes if she's scum and you're town like 99/100 times?

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I'm also disgusted by you filthy fuckin' materialists shoring up your insecurities and existential discontent with consumerism.

My life goal is just to live like Diogenes

I do see some pirates over the horizon actually.

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what even is the use of keeping me around..

Marci you look amazing in your sundress !

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I'm also disgusted by you filthy fuckin' materialists shoring up your insecurities and existential discontent with consumerism.

My life goal is just to live like Diogenes

My tiara is beautiful

Your tiara is going to save us all

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ari hug me im so confused

*hugs*

besties no matter what

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Coral is a treasure and I will be heartbroken if she is working for the other side.

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ok but why would you think skitter's lack of engagement with Pavo is susp while unvoting Pavo and voting for Fruit?

like my issue with 2313

is that you seem to find skitter - pavo relationship susp because lack of engagement

but you're not voting skitter or pavo, you're voting for fruit?

it's not like you're saying weird there's nothing here between skitter and pavo therefore Skitter = scum or pavo = scum or they're both scum together. You're saying actually it should be fruit?

I can scumread more than one person
I was having doubts about my reads and that doubt landed my vote on Fruit
You can find it scummy ig, it wasn’t the most logical vote in the world and I don’t really have much else to say on it
Also the way I interacted with the Pav wagon and the way Skitter did are vastly different and not really comparable
I’ve stated my reasons for my vote already and it does not change that the way Skitter acted around the Pav wagon is very strange, not just from the lack of engagement but everything else I noticed while reading her ISO.

ok so if you scumread Pavo & Fruit - why move from Pavo who you had

good reasons

to vote for and was at 5 votes and viable for elim to move your vote to Fruit who had at that time 0 votes?

What did changed in the game that made you doubt your Pavo vote?

Like I don't understand why you think Skitter's vote on Pavo was strange. Like if she never votes for Pavo there, he doesn't really become a thing? You had previously voted Pavo twice and nothing really happened. Skitter voting Pavo caused me to sheep her onto Pavo which she knew would happen before she voted there and that drew more people to Pavo at put him at five. I'm not sure why you think that's something Scum!her does? Like does it make sense for scum!her to defend Town!Gamma from a wagon to instead wagon Pavo her partner?

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this yacht party will never end woooohoooooo

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Like I don't understand why you think Skitter's vote on Pavo was strange. Like if she never votes for Pavo there, he doesn't really become a thing? You had previously voted Pavo twice and nothing really happened. Skitter voting Pavo caused me to sheep her onto Pavo which she knew would happen before she voted there and that drew more people to Pavo at put him at five. I'm not sure why you think that's something Scum!her does? Like does it make sense for scum!her to defend Town!Gamma from a wagon to instead wagon Pavo her partner?

is this something that you think is clearing for skitter? or just something that you think is less likely for her to do as scum? i have thoughts that i will hold off on unti meuh answers, but i still would like to hear more about what you think on it

I don't think it's clearing - I think it makes it less likely that she's mafia here.

I am often impressed by her scum games and I think this is her town game.

I would be pleasantly surprised if this is her scum!game.

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like let's talk about skitter's plan here if she's actually mafia and gamma/faker is town here.

Mechanically it is a fairly simple play in three parts.

Phase I:

Defend the LHF Town(Gamma) to establish the link
Bus her teammate(Pavo)
Flip Pavo.

Phase II:

Survive the next Day Phase off the Cred from Pushing Pavo.
Flip Someone Else.
Escape

Phase III:

Gamma gets yeeted due to Associatives
Win.


Faker replacing Gamma messed up her plan and now she's pushing.

I mean it's plausible as a line of play but it's not something I expect her to do?

I could always just be wrong. >_>

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Ari have you ever mislimmed skitter

I don't think so

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Still see no reason to unvote my Marci vote

im town

does your brother misread you?

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I guess I don't have a confident enough skitter read to disagree with a bunch of conftown

I'm willing to sheep you !

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I don't believe that the Pav wagon really had much momentum at the time where Meuh unvoted. Maybe I'm wrong on that read of the gamestate? But that was what I felt at the time and it still feels that way looking back

I did a full summary of the initial pavo wagon here: 3217

Meuh first voted Pavo at 2051 which was Monday Afternoon

Meuh voted TUF at 2305 which was Wednesday Morning (roughly 36 hours after the she voted Pavo)

When Meuh moves off Pavo he is at 5 Votes (Meuh, Skitter, Ari, Titus, GLion)

Cakes had said he would be willing to vote for Pavo in 2060

The only person really defending Pavo around when Meuh unvoted is Gamma who was loudly complaining about the game taking a "shortcut" to solving in 229422962298

I think if we're in the world where Meuh is Mafia and Gamma is town, then Meuh realized the distancing she was doing was going to get Pavo killed and as long as Gamma!town was defending Pavo and Fruit!Town was focused on Marci then she could get away with unvoting and counterwagoning fruit with Gamma because there wouldn't be the votes to flip Pavo then.

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One thing that struck me as odd when I reread this page:

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=89546&start=2275


Is that when Gamma is loudly complaining about pushes on Gamma/Beat/Pavo/Marci and saying it's weird that nobody is doing anything about TUF and then Meuh says "oh TUF is probably chilling in wolf chat" and then she votes for TUF..

She doesn't actually say anything about Pavo to Gamma... Which is kind of weird to me because the wagon on Pavo that Gamma is loudly complaining about... was started by Meuh in the first place so why doesn't she engage him on Pavo instead of just going "hey it's TUF let's go"

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I want to come over here and play but then a bad emotional thing happen

*hugs*

I hope you feel better soon dear.

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we are all town in real life and this yacht party is great even if some of us got the wrong kind of invite ^_^

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VROOOOOMM PHSSEWWWWWW

idk what noises a stealth fighter jet makes im sorry

honestly i think i locktowned here did i also mention the avatar

This is what an F-22 sounds like.

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well she did try voting him in

375

and

1665

and neither time she got any traction on him so maybe she thought it was ok to poke at him again?

I don't know really - it just feels odd to me that she would unvote Pavowski after she finally did get traction.

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hehe that would be funny

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also if one of Meuh/Skitter escape we don't have to worry about the other one right?

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if coral is mafia we lost as soon as she picked her avatar

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i'm not very interested in why it's wrong anymore, but why was it town

all of your posts are very town

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Ugh I want a tiara
Also traveling today won't really be around

Cakes just needs to buy a Tiara and his yacht invitation will change colors

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if we follow the pavo rule

could the fact that nobody has even tried to murder Sir Cakes mean he has to be an uninvited guest?

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classic Aristeia shoving her head in the sand and not giving a shit about things that go against her worldview.

this made me giggle so I made this funny meme for you.

Spoiler: For Faker

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I colored in the VCs in excel for Titus to analyze ^_^

Spoiler: Colored VCs

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she is voting for Meuh

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I guess we could always kill Cakes

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enjoy your vacation cakes

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ok but nobody ever tried to kill you

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like voting to make you take a dive without a life vest off our yacht without a life vest

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If Marci is town then one of skitter or Faker is scum and fuck me if I know who it is

Isn't skitter much more townread by you than Faker?

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Cakes has trouble remembering things regardless of his alignment tbh

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how do you feel about eating Cake dear?

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Did you change your pfp so people could tell us apart? I love making people suffer

yea there were too many complaints though I did really enjoy being twinsies with you <3

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This game was good

Spoiler: Best Yacht Party Ever?

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what is the square?

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I did change my sundress just for you Faker.

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tbf coral did have intent to hammer at 2812 and 2816 and I told her to wait a bit to let Faker fully catch up and you were on VLA at the time.

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I have a date this weekend!

this is so exciting yay!

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boba tea?

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Hi Tea looks pretty nice

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I think fruit tea with cream foam is delicious and really nice in the summer.

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I miss Hokkaido. it is such a pretty island.

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I guess if you really need to make a case for why duckie gets that upset at me, it would be that he thought I said to him that he didn't deserve to flip me because he wasn't posting enough and that somehow triggered him despite him knowing I am town and he is mafia? Like maybe he felt I was being unreasonably entitled in the way I was defending myself.

I really don't want to think he would get that upset as mafia though :<

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well I'm obviously interested but this boat is really enjoyable and I love partying with everyone and I guess I haven't gotten to the vote vote part yet

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Like .... i'm really, really anxious that when you guys flip me meuh is gonna escape and idk who the last one is so from my pov this is Not Great

pls don't be anxious tho it's a fun boat trip it doesn't matter which side wins <3

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awwwwwwww

i'm gonna miss that dude he was funny

"what's a PT"

classic

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Sorry, I am having major RL anxiety attack. I know my VCA is long overdue.

hope you feel better titus <3

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ok why is meuh town?

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I love Faker

Faker is a national treasure

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is Meuh french?

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that would explain why she seems so sophisticated and at home on a yacht

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Faker has a transcendental sense of humour

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My date is a big slay the spire fan which is kinda random

It has a large cult following and deserves it really

so pog

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is Meuh french?

French-Canadian, it's my first language! I've been fluently bilingual for a long time.

So it's like peu or feu? I think that's kind of what I was going for even if I didn't describe it very well. I'm not great at French

Ding ding! Replace the p or f with m. The h is just there for fun, because of course every French word needs a bunch of letters that do nothing.

Pedit: Marry them

Meuh is too elegant to be mafia. *jots down notes*

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its ok Faker

reading is overrated

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Sprite tower

lol

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Aristeia was guilt tripping

I don't think I ever tried to guilt trip him.

I was suspicious of how weak his push was because I didn't feel like he really believed I was mafia.

and then when he started screaming at me I just wanted to get off the boat because I felt awful.

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you should eat Marci

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Marci have you eaten?

We're worried about you

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that doesn't sound like a lot dear :<

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In post 3630, Aristeia wrote:
ok why is meuh town?

In post 3491, marcistar wrote:
I like Meuhs stuff, I feel like it feels like genuinely her, though I dont really think my reading her is very accurate so someone else can do that. I can't really point to specific posts, but its like all of them that feel mid vibes.


- -

I feel like we should have more to go on than just "vibes" atp in the game.

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I think you go with the toughbook

the X1 Nano doesn't look like it would last very long with you.

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and like skitter's whole attitue about the wagon is just kinda like "meh who cares" I don't really see like conviction. it's just "votes!" but then, Ari, Titus, GL are all... conf town

isn't that just how skitter plays?

she likes to vote people and see what happens?

I rarely see her vote someone and start pounding the table with conviction.

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and like skitter's whole attitue about the wagon is just kinda like "meh who cares" I don't really see like conviction. it's just "votes!" but then, Ari, Titus, GL are all... conf town

isn't that just how skitter plays?

she likes to vote people and see what happens?

I rarely see her vote someone and start pounding the table with conviction.

ok, but then why did all of the next people saying "I'd vote pav" become conf towns? like, why not include skitter with those?

Well if skitter is mafia because mafia can't become conftown.

and if skitter is town because the mafia decided that she is elimmable.

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Ok, but none of yall seem to be thinking about skitter being maf? and for that matter, most of yall seem to be doing almost nothing game related...

I think Meuh, Isis and Coral have all said they think Skitter is mafia.

Not sure on Coral. Definitely maybe.

I don't think she's mafia but I could always be wrong :<

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you know mafia have emotions too right?

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I hope you feel better soon Titus <3

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Dating is kind of like mafia except you don't have to convince anyone to vote for him if he's susp.

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that is what she is saying yes.

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how do you forget that skitter hard derailed gamma like twice >.>

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whats your preferred elim order now? ~.~

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I don't think it makes sense for Duckie/Skitter to team up to push me.

That seems unlikely.

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Faker is too busy training her hornets to play mafia to bother with us plebes :<

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boba tea is always more important than mafia isis

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you thought pav was townie too!

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ok and meuh is not your friend? :<

her pfp is gorgeous

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I'm thinking maybe we elim coral because if meuh is mafia it's probably always with Coral

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the three pairs I have in my head are like:

S
Meuh + Coral
Marci + Faker
Skitter + SirCakes
T

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I agree with your substantive points on Duckie being mafia.

I disagree with your analysis of the rep-out because I am very biased in this regard;

I fundamentally don't think I did anything that would cause duck!scum to tilt and snap at me.

Perhaps you do have a more accurate view of my behavior and that's difficult for me to accept rn but I will come around to it by the deadline if that's where everyone wants to go.

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VOTE: Coral

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Why am I voting the top scumread of the most likely partner for my top scumread

I don't know dear

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maybe all this sunning on the yacht has fried my brains

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impromptu dance party

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it's so hot in my room right now. My AC broke and I'm using a ziplock bag full of ice to stop myself from dying from heat stroke.

why won't the sun go down already.

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UNVOTE:

ok i guess we can get final thoughts

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I am here and not hammering

how can you even hammer she's not at e-1??

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maybe we should just dunk meuh instead i dunno

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I am here and not hammering

how can you even hammer she's not at e-1??

Look at the votecount

shes at e2 how would you hammer her?

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VOTE: aristeia i am cryning we were going to sacrifice her she is so sweet she was ganna give us thoughts

I was sheeping you!! :<

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but im willing to vote meuh here, so

are you going to vote for her?

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91 degrees Fahrenheit no ac

same

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after my room cools down I might be able to think and do something useful

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it is awful >.>

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if you fall asleep now skitter might put you on an iceberg

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skitter I think faker's VCA out the window comment was expressly about analyzing the EOD D1 wagon for who is scum on it and she made the point that it's not useful to VCA it because both wagons were on townies so scum do not have to actually be anywhere.

She did not make that point about Meuh unvoting Pavo.

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Cakes / Coral are you two going to vote for Meuh or what?

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you know you're a clear too right dear?

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why is SirCakes scum based off Pavo's interactions?

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he was pretty friendly with marci they were like besties

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I would sheep you if you wanted me to

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Meuh if you're town, and your explanation for unvoting is "paranoia" it would be really useful if you explain why you got paranoid and the thought process behind that rather than just pulling meta. ty

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the thing that really stands out to me for your hop-off of Pavowski during D2 is that you did it in response to Gamma's hard defense of Pavowski and shading of TUF.

but you didn't actually mention anything about Pavowski when you moved to TUF

- it's like you derailed your own wagon on Pavo just as it got steam but you never explained

why

you moved off Pavo in the moment.

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you probably made her day

you are an angel Isis.

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She swaps after a combination of getting castigated by Gamma for not voting Fruit and Gamma actually pulling up a substantive point against the slot.

The issue in this progression is that it's off of scum. There's no concerns about process here and the idea that she unvoted for no reason is trash and untrue.

Gamma isn't voting fruit

Gamma's defense of Pavowski is pretty awful and I don't see why anyone would be convinced by that.

If Meuh was convinced by Gamma she should be able to explain how Gamma castigating the Pavo voters changed her mind.

She literally didn't even say when she vote-switched that she did it because she thinks Pavo is town for ____ reason.

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I agree that her vote on Pavowski is

very very good

it's actually the

THIRD TIME

she voted for Pavowski, she got zero traction the other two times.

This is the first time everyone in the game, Skitter, Me, Titus, Guiltylion hop on the train CHOO CHOO CHOO.

Cakes says he can vote there.

Pavo is literally inches from dying - so why would she change her mind on the wagon she actually wanted and

had good reason to want

when she's finally getting it?

If she has cold feet, then like who is giving her cold feet? She doesn't even

mention

Pavowski when she hops off - it's like oooh look over there a fruit!

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pirate treasure isis

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yea I read them multiple times.


I also read every pavo post between her first vote and her unvote many many times.

I don't see a reason for her to change her mind on pavowski being scummy.

I don't see a reason for her to get paranoid about the people on the wagon with her.

if either of those were true I would imagine she would

say it

when she changed her vote.

her response to me at 3238 is bizarre; she claims

"I can scumread more than one person"

as an explanation. Like um ok, let's say she scumreads both Pavowski and Fruit at the same time at that point. why would she abandon a wagon that is picking up speed at 5 votes and threatening to go on someone who has zero votes? How is that productive?

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Oh I was also thinking about meuh's post

Do you think Pavowski is scummier individually or more vca, flow of the tides.

To me he's scummy in a circumstantial way if that makes any sense?
The general position he's in, the way he has interacted with others and others have treated him, the feeling of some people being aware of him being scummy, while some seem to prefer ignoring his existence, I guess. It all makes me uneasy.

Who do you think falls into each camp here?

hmmm
I assume you mean the camp of aware vs ignoring?
I'm gonna take a look at people's ISOs to get the accurate picture of it all
Note that ignoring doesn't mean no mention of Pav, it means more so less harsh stances and less attention on him:

Aware: Me, Titus, Ari, Coral, GL
Ignoring: Marci, Fruit, Worstie, Gamma, Isis, Cakez, Skitter
Pavowski: Pavowski

Things that stuck out to me while looking at this:
-Coral and TW have given significantly different amounts of attention to Pav.
-Isis barely mentions him, considering her postcount
-It's even worse for Skitter, who also barely mentions him. From what I can see she literally didn't talk about him until 1691, which is impressive.

and look at this post she makes.

she's doing pre-flip associatives with Pavowski and shading people for how much they mention pavowski as if he were a flipped scum.

this is

AFTER

she unvoted Pavowski and derailed the wagon at 2305 literally like three hours ago.

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If gl has at least 4 hours for this game I will likely sheep him but if he has to skin I'll be spicy

save us hobbes

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Pedit hi gl!!!! Hope you had a good time

thanks Skitter yah it was unreal!

I got to see Porter Robinson play three different sets, one of them on an organ for like 100 people I was not 20 feet away so I'm still basking in that glow for the rest of my life

this sounds lovely and I am insanely jealous

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is it because of Porter Robinson?

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Like what if none of my reads are wrong cause I didn't really believe in best wagon and I should just belief in myself

I mean that sounds arrogant but I more mean like

What if I haven't messed up yet

Like all five confs fit my worldview a lot

Idk

I'm willing to sheep you unconditionally dear <3

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I have trouble believing Faker would be yelling at Marci to E-1 Coral if she was teamed with coral in order to "hammertest"

really some stellar play if she is.

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I guess a better statement here is: Cakez town Meuh escape instantly gamelosing because I get my just desserts. Meuh townflip Cakez escape maybe I don't instantly lose us the game.

But don't you just want to lim the scum one..

she's saying that if cakes/meuh are t/s

then if she flips meuh today and meuh is town and cakes escapes, we can try to figure out who is the partner tomm

but if she flips cakes today and cakes is town, and meuh escapes, she is going to get flipped tomm and we will lose.

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I am scum with everyone. It is a fact.

maybe we just yeet faker tbh