large normal 239. game over

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my shot on kitty failed :/

I was about to be offended but then remembered there are two other cats in this game

Spoiler:

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So did mine on Enigma. It's like town wants the Mafia alive.

You tried to vig RCEnigma? Why?

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Who's in the hood? I read the first 15 pages and was going to do the rest tonight but can someone give me a quick tl;dr

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I mean if you wanna believe in vig, I literally said before the thread locked I would shoot Enigma after Nero said Kitty. I'm a (wo)man of my word.

Why did you say that then? I'm mainly asking if you scumread him and if so, why

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VOTE: cakez

What's the case on Cakez?

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Titus said that mala and bosco are solid scums, and there are no reasons at all to defend bosco.

There's a lot wrong with this but maybe it's because of lack of context.

What's wrong? The only green player we all know said to elim those two. The are locked scums for her.

Titus was uninformed town who had the same info as you.

If you're town, your reads should be just as valid as hers. Why are you sheeping her?

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VOTE: cakez

What's the case on Cakez?

Some of his posts look stilted in the early game and perhaps in regards to titus. There's kind of a vibe when someone's wrong and a different vibe when someone's faking their read. He also was trying to throw shade on a lot of people early on and it looks like he was just trying to stir shit

Why was it shit throwing as opposed to saying things that pinged him to get the discussion going? I was leaning the latter

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f you're town, your reads should be just as valid as hers. Why are you sheeping her?

bc she knows locals much better than i am, and she is an experienced player

Titus can be hit or miss though

Bosco is a fine lim but i kind of want to give mala a few RL days before passing judgment

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NM can be readable. Depends mostly on his mood

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Oh spicy

Where's my popcorn

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Also idc what Elsa is talking about my role wasn't interfered with and arguing scum also has a roleblocker that decided to use it on a VT claim is whatever.

Which post by Elsa is this referring to?

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and if jk went to mala, thats how the shot of mafia could be blocked, though i dont understand are they totally idiots to make a shot from the most suspicious slot? well... if they thought that there are no other blockers here after titus... it is possible i guess...

If she really has a PR ability as RCE is claiming, then she probably wouldn't have done the kill anyway.

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It's very possible Titus was wrong on all 4 in her hero solve. If she's right on one it's DV and my DV read is just completely off which is possible.

Why is Bosco town?

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NM can be readable. Depends mostly on his mood

Explain please. His trolling as either alignment I nigh on unintelligible to me.

There's not much to explain; he either plays or he doesn't. he just doesn't explain reads so over90 may have a stroke playing with him

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Am I smooth braining?

Scum pushing Titus scum poe makes sense for scum to do right or wrong?

I think you’re town pushing bad logic.

Just because Titus died doesn’t mean her reads are good or bad.

We just know scum didn’t wait for replacements so scum either feared her PR claim or feared her play but that hammer instead of replacements definitely implies something. Combined with what you’re saying as probably true given I don’t think scum would lie about being a rolecop so brazenly in thread I think you’re just incorrect logic wise on that part.

How close was the game to deadline when Titus was hammered?

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Oh okay, i was going to say your hammer theory doesn't make sense if the game was close to deadline but nvm

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VOTE: Elsa

Sircakez's vote on mala also came out of left field

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That's trying to outguess the mod, which i don't do.

There's a missing NK and i liked her early game posting when she was active so i believe her

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Well maybe a bit of that too

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Mala

NK = night kill

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wonderful contributions mals

Sorry I was too busy throwing a “goodbye party” for my fav coworker

I replaced my alt tako.

I’m kinda VLA I’m coming off a rough week.

It’s more I just don’t want to talk to anyone in general rn

I’m on an ambulance call but I’m either at l-1 or close to l-1

I’m town Jk and targeted Elsa

I won’t be back til another hour or two bc this is an assault victim

the half of her posts in game is explanation why she cannot play this game.

She does this every game

It's hilariously not alignment indicative

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VOTE: Elsa

Sircakez's vote on mala also came out of left field

where are you voting? today we are voting mala.

titus said elsa is town, mala is scum.

compare them

I already said why this line of reasoning is fallible

What did Elsa do? She's comfortably inside her scum range

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I kinda think we’re just dealing with bad scum here if Elsa is scum. I mean why would scum send Elsa to do the kill? That question doesn’t fit for me. I think we need to flip Elsa as it’s more likely just me not having a grasp on the game yet.

Do you have any ideas, assuming Elsa is scum why they send Elsa to do the kill?

they probably didn't expect another town RB after the flip

It's also like when you sent Andres to do the kill in my mini normal. if Elsa gets guiltied, they lose a slot that likely wasn't surviving to end game anyway

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I'm actually confused you would ask that Mathy, but whatever
I have to go to work ew

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I'm actually confused you would ask that Mathy, but whatever
I have to go to work ew

I am asking it because if we assume RC is telling the truth (I don’t see why not right now)

Then Mala would either be shot at or Elsa would be the killer or Elsa would be the person shot.

All three are viable.

Considering Mala dropped off the face of the earth, it could be a Mala kill for PR
Or
Elsa was the killer killing somewhere
Or
Scum wanted Elsa dead

I think the middle is most likely but I hate loose ends

Now that RCE has revealed himself to be a doctor, the middle scenario is even more likely yeah

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i don't think he followed up on most of them so i'm not sure it was trying to invoke discussion

so what do you think of cakez, and why did you ask me about him?

I was kinda townreading him up until he voted mala today, don't have a read on you, and wanted to talk

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Now that RCE has revealed himself to be a doctor, the middle scenario is even more likely yeah

Wait there is a fourth scenario that scum (not Elsa - Elsa could be town in this scenario) shot someone else, who was saved by another protective. That's... more likely than either Mala or Elsa getting shot imo

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Now that RCE has revealed himself to be a doctor, the middle scenario is even more likely yeah

Wait there is a fourth scenario that scum (not Elsa - Elsa could be town in this scenario) shot someone else, who was saved by another protective. That's... more likely than either Mala or Elsa getting shot imo

or it was likely until RCE claimed doc shot on mala
OK I really have to go now

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I kinda think we’re just dealing with bad scum here if Elsa is scum. I mean why would scum send Elsa to do the kill? That question doesn’t fit for me. I think we need to flip Elsa as it’s more likely just me not having a grasp on the game yet.

Do you have any ideas, assuming Elsa is scum why they send Elsa to do the kill?

mmm this is a good point

Is it though?

What if Elsa is the only goon and scum aren't multitasking

Or if scum wanted to mitigate their losses by sending their scummier partner so the townier scum aren't guiltier?

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Now that RCE has revealed himself to be a doctor, the middle scenario is even more likely yeah

Wait there is a fourth scenario that scum (not Elsa - Elsa could be town in this scenario) shot someone else, who was saved by another protective. That's... more likely than either Mala or Elsa getting shot imo

@math, I'm kind of confused why you didn't think of this scenario?

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uhh with Cakez's vote, I think Elsa has been hammered

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StD is a fine wagon, but I'll hold off on voting for now, since I don't want another speedrun.

This

NK15

wagon feels like it exists solely because people don't like the Tako wagon

This feels like a soft defense of a buddy

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is there anything people want me to like defend against

Why did you vote then unvote Elsa?

You voted her and then immediately undermined it with 1720

but didn't actually unvote until 1734

Which was almost right after over90 unvoted too, so it seemed like you were hoping the wagon would die down

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VOTE: not known 15

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I think DV is town btw

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Stagnate? The thread has been open like 12 hrs, and not mafia and mashed have yet to check in. And kitty has only made 1 post that didn’t say anything

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VOTE: not known 15

Do you think scum interact with me like NK15 has? I guess NK is sort of piggybacking off over90 but I kind of doubt scum bother pushing me tbh

Very possible they haven’t thought that much about it tho

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That's E-1

just count the VC before you vote

is that too much to ask

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And why is StD scummy, Kitty

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Did I hammer?

This feels really fake

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I don't like his interactions with players today especially.

This is so vague

Did I hammer?

This feels really fake

I am bad at counting votes like that. And how does it feel fake? This feels like shade.[/quote]
It is

If you were worried about std in hammer range, then you shouldn't have voted at all unless you really wanted to end the day

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^just lim this guy tmw

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There's at least one scum in

Titus

, Bosco, and

NK

.

weird soft bus?

VOTE: Not Mafia

This vote makes even less sense now

Nk15 thinks kitty is soft bussing not_maf, but then hammers std after kitty e-1s?

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VOTE: NK15

I'd also vote Kitty today

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If it's because I didn't vote StD yesterday, that's pretty dumb

I believed there simply wasn't enough info to figure out who StD's partners were and didn't want to rush to end the day

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NK15 quickhammer came out of nowhere after not talking about StD at all D3
Aside from that quickhammer, pretty bad voting record by voting people who have either flipped town or I believe are town
Weird vote in 1857
Gamma soft defended him in 424, which seems partner-y

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And why is StD scummy, Kitty

I don't like his interactions with players today especially.

Did I hammer?

This feels really fake

I am bad at counting votes like that. And how does it feel fake? This feels like shade.

Out of the reasons to scumread StD, I don't think the bolded is a great reason, and this feels like a clumsy bus

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Yeah I tried to BS an explanation and I am a pretty bad liar lmao.

Like I got called out in like two seconds flat for the worst reasoning ever.

Oh was that why? When did the hood figure out DVs role?

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I don't townread Nashed, but i don't really have reason to think he's scum either.

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Everyone else is townier than {NK15, Nashed, kitty}

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I just don't think it's as clearing as you seem to think it is?

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Which posts of his did you not like? You can just quote them if you feel like your explanations aren't good

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Spoiler:

vote count 4.0 !

not voting (11):

Cat Scratch Fever, KittyTacky, DkKoba, SirCakez, over90, Not_Mafia, MathBlade, Malakittens, NashedPotato, Enchant, Not Known 15

with 11 alive, it takes 6 to get wrenched. day 4 starts now and ends in (expired on 2022-06-28 21:14:15)

modorator notes

• thread unlocked

Kind of agreeing with Koba here
CSF or Nashed should be where we go
CSF seems sus as hell and Nashed hasn’t posted since start of day.

Elaborate on how I’m “sus as hell”

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VOTE: STD

^just lim this guy tmw

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I feel better about nk15 scum than kitty

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Is Nashed still playing the game? It's been 9 days since he's posted.

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If there's another scum in the hood, i think it's mathblade btw. That vote on me was pretty bad

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it just seems like you wanted to put your vote on me

First I was sus as hell

And then when the reason for that was debunked, you decided to sheep Koba anyway

Why do you townread Koba?

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For starters you’re like elim Kitty tomorrow

Then you open today on NK15

This makes me think both Kitty and NK15 are miselims if you’re scum and you’re aiming for who you think is miselim able versus a genuine read

all right, then let's rehash it, since there's nothing else happening here anyway

Where did I ever say "elim Kitty D4"?

Spoiler:

VOTE: STD

^just lim this guy tmw

Why is NK15 not a genuine scumread? My scumread there is basically summarized in 1939 and 2020

I've been thinking NK15 was scummy yesterday and today, and the guy can barely be bothered to play today. Like what was even the point of opening the thread only to post 2074?

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Why?

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Why?

Nashed can be decent at scum though

I have no particular reason to think they're scum lurking over town who lost interest in the game

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What was the reason? That they pushed over90?

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nashed is a slot that if they were town theyd also get pushed by scum themselves.

This is a fair point

Though I would not be so confident to say they're 10000% scum by that metric alone, so im still curious why Kitty said that

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Welcome Andante!

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Math, the post you quoted was me pushing Kitty to get a better read there. I feel like I have made it abundantly clear that NK15 is my preferred lim over Kitty atp

Why?

Nashed can be decent at scum though

I have no particular reason to think they're scum lurking over town who lost interest in the game

Why would town lose interest when we’ve had like a shit ton of scum elims though?

Yes I am finding it hard to engage but if I had more time I would probably be Mr Hyperposter look at me hyperpost so and so is scum repeatedly

Right now I just don’t have the confidence to do it yet. However you’re getting pretty damn up there

Idk he never seemed that engaged in the game to begin with, and it's also possible something IRL came up and he siteflaked; he has literally not posted since mid day 2. Regardless hopefully Andante will be easier to read

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NK15 quickhammer came out of nowhere after not talking about StD at all D3
Aside from that quickhammer, pretty bad voting record by voting people who have either flipped town or I believe are town
Weird vote in 1857
Gamma soft defended him in 424, which seems partner-y

Quoting this as a summary why NK15 is scum

There's at least one scum in

Titus

, Bosco, and

NK

.

weird soft bus?

VOTE: Not Mafia

Btw, this post seems to imply that NK15 has reason to SR KittyTacky, but that scumread seemed to have disappeared into thin air today.

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Also I'm sick, so expect more sporadic activity for the next few days

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also, I genuinely love yall trying to help me get caught up to speed... we answer NM's "who was in the hood" but we can't give me a list of what was claimed/reports... nice one

Mala is neighbor JK and jailkept Elsa N1 (and there was no kill N1 so Elsa was flipped D2)

Koba claimed x-shot bp (Nero also hinted at something like this when he was playing the slot)

N_M is town bc the 1-s ascetic cop obviously crumbed an inno there

I think that's it

How caught up are you? What are your scumreads looking like right now?

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UNVOTE: need a moment to get my head back into this game

VOTE: sircakez

StD unvoted and put NK15 in the lead subtly

NK15 is town

I thought about that, but doesn't not voting for NK15 make them likely to be buddies?

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mathblade is the reason elsa got buried

whaaat I don't think that's true

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lol yea I kinda agree

I'm helpful as both alignments :3

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I kinda townread enchant, but the read comes with the usual Enchant Clause in that i can't be too sure

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I think I'd vote andante over kitty atp

Sorry andante

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2338 is probably the most town post NK15 has made in a while

Idk i don't have confidence in my reads. I should probably reread but still sick

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I think NK15 is a good compromise read between Koba and Mala.

No, that's wrong. Koba only sees a chance for me being scum with Enchant. You are just trying to get lims instead of trying to get scum.
VOTE: Mathblade

What's your read on Koba? Does it strike you as weird at all that Koba is defending you so hard based off of one post?

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Andante, why don't you want a NK15 wagon?

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ah >_< that's like my paranoia scumteam solve b/c Nero was weirdly insistent on there being at most 1 scum in the hood

now I'm like omega unsure

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Ehh it's easier to just do it like so

Titus - Odd Night Roleblocker
Elsa Mala Enchant Carca - Neighbor
Deus - Ascetic

Honestly if I'm a betting man, assuming scum have 4, and we have 1 scum in the neighborhood, that leaves not much room for people actually being VT.

Maybe the Neighbors are the VTs in this situation.

I just doubt Ascetic fits in with a Roleblocker claim in the same game unless it's TVS.

this again, I feel that this is trying to weave a specific narrative of only 1 scum in the hood. mind you elsa has not said very much about his hoodmates at this point.

The bolded feels like Elsa was trying to push an all-town hood but like

I guess she would do that regardless of whether there's 1 or 2 scum in the hood

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I don’t think that’s right.

I think over unvoted Kitty.

Can we like talk with each other and provide reasons?

I feel that is very much lacking here.

CSF = gross shitpushing on me, accusing me of bussing as if I can't change my mind about someone
Andante/Nashed = slot lurked and was never pushed by scum for it, which seems very odd

I'm down for either.
VOTE: Andante

yeah but you should be able to explain why your read changed, especially when it looked like StD was a foregone conclusion, and it looked like you were trying to get some town cred in - that's just basic mafia :/

idk what to say beyond that

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I definitely understand the votes coming my way... but like, can I hear the plan for after I flip town?

I think there's a decent chance either I or NK15 gets limmed regardless of what you flip

VOTE: Andante

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I can't tell if Andante is twilight trolling

Schaaaaadd flip please

Enchant you were the first on that wagon lol

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Tbh nothing was happening in the game, i feel like we were all sitting around waiting for flips

and i didn't townread the contributions you had

If you needed more time, I'm sorry :/

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I still think Enchant is town, and NK15 is scum.

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Also Mala also told that NK was jailed.

Wait Mala jailed NK15? Then why was MathBlade sussing NK15 in 2341?

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2431

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I think NK15's contribution falls below what I expect from town!them.

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Can you just say who Mala jailed every night

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btw

v/la this Saturday and Sunday @mod

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Also Mala also told that NK was jailed.

Wait Mala jailed NK15? Then why was MathBlade sussing NK15 in 2341?

She didn’t tell me she jailed NK15 until last night.

To be abundantly clear, the only info you have about her night actions is that she jailed NK15 N3?

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VOTE: NK15

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How have i "lost morale" compared to, say, NK15?

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If you're saying he's been underwhelming all game, then I'd say that's a good reason to scumread him

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Can people say why they don't want to vote NK15?

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Yes, let's massclaim.

Im vt
U?

Note how NK15 disappears after this

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After talk in hood i think Math is maf after all.

VOTE: Math

Why?

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Such as?

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Yeah that does seem like a bad idea, since Koba is pushing me, and I have the feeling they're not even scum with NK15.

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oh i misread because i thought i missed the csf vote but they only voted after the claim and never came back to contribute

I'm super confused how you think this

I made a bunch of posts. I even questioned StD when he unvoted Elsa for a weak reason, which I followed up on the day after.

The thread was locked <12 hours later.

Spoiler: Just a sample of posts

VOTE: Elsa

Sircakez's vote on mala also came out of left field

That's trying to outguess the mod, which i don't do.

There's a missing NK and i liked her early game posting when she was active so i believe her

wonderful contributions mals

Sorry I was too busy throwing a “goodbye party” for my fav coworker

I replaced my alt tako.

I’m kinda VLA I’m coming off a rough week.

It’s more I just don’t want to talk to anyone in general rn

I’m on an ambulance call but I’m either at l-1 or close to l-1

I’m town Jk and targeted Elsa

I won’t be back til another hour or two bc this is an assault victim

the half of her posts in game is explanation why she cannot play this game.

She does this every game

It's hilariously not alignment indicative

VOTE: Elsa

Sircakez's vote on mala also came out of left field

where are you voting? today we are voting mala.

titus said elsa is town, mala is scum.

compare them

I already said why this line of reasoning is fallible

What did Elsa do? She's comfortably inside her scum range

I'm actually confused you would ask that Mathy, but whatever
I have to go to work ew

I am asking it because if we assume RC is telling the truth (I don’t see why not right now)

Then Mala would either be shot at or Elsa would be the killer or Elsa would be the person shot.

All three are viable.

Considering Mala dropped off the face of the earth, it could be a Mala kill for PR
Or
Elsa was the killer killing somewhere
Or
Scum wanted Elsa dead

I think the middle is most likely but I hate loose ends

Now that RCE has revealed himself to be a doctor, the middle scenario is even more likely yeah

I kinda think we’re just dealing with bad scum here if Elsa is scum. I mean why would scum send Elsa to do the kill? That question doesn’t fit for me. I think we need to flip Elsa as it’s more likely just me not having a grasp on the game yet.

Do you have any ideas, assuming Elsa is scum why they send Elsa to do the kill?

mmm this is a good point

Is it though?

What if Elsa is the only goon and scum aren't multitasking

Or if scum wanted to mitigate their losses by sending their scummier partner so the townier scum aren't guiltier?

elsa being jailkept and no deaths happening is not that incriminating considering the shot could have very well been on her.

but I believe scum TMId that it was Elsa leading the kill and ergo went into bus mode from that.

Elsa was a scummy slot and wasn't contributing anything. It's unlikely she would get NK'd.

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I'm just VT btw

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I see TMI indications and partner interactions from CSF.

VOTE: CSF

So yes, that's fine.

What did I TMI?

Nevermind. It is just Enchant and Mathblade.

Elsa claimed that the neighborhood had Enchant, Mathblade, herself and Mala on it but Mala didn't flip Neighbor Jailkeeper, just Jailkeeper.

Yet you leave your vote on me. I seriously doubt you believe this.

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I'll reread to see if I can figure out who else is scum before I get hammered, but tbh this game is pretty boring, and when I replaced in, I told schadd that I wouldn't be more than a warm body in the slot

So no guarantees

Although I'm pretty confident that Enchant is town here, so if I die, no shitpushing Enchant! I also think Koba is probably town, so the people who are trying to say there's 1 scum in {me, koba} are lazy at best and scum at worst.

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I fell asleep, so I didn't end up getting very far. I will be here for a little while longer though - this game has my full attention!

I feel like Carcalilly's posts on page 16 and 17 were pretty good. And if NK15 does flip scum, she (MathBlade) doesn't feel partnered.

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I'll reread to see if I can figure out who else is scum before I get hammered, but tbh this game is pretty boring, and when I replaced in, I told schadd that I wouldn't be more than a warm body in the slot

So no guarantees

Although I'm pretty confident that Enchant is town here, so if I die, no shitpushing Enchant! I also think Koba is probably town, so the people who are trying to say there's 1 scum in {me, koba} are lazy at best and scum at worst.

Can you explain the Koba townread? I can’t follow what they’re saying at all and that is usually scum!Koba

Town Koba is understandable but annoying.

I was townreading Nero's posts. But also I feel like they're doing a lot of solving when the rest of the thread is pretty lethargic.

For example, the analysis from earlier this page. Why bother unvoting me and doing that analysis? They probably feel somewhat on the hook for my mislim based on how everyone is positioning me and Koba as a 1v1, but I don't know why they bother engaging me

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That's so funny that nero and italiano were fighting, now after replacing dkkoba and csf are fighting.

I guess we need to stay on the idea, that there is one scum among them and to elim them both, if the first one flips town

Let’s go. I am down for a CSF / Koba 1v1

Where are the votes?

btw, Nero might've tunneled ItalianoVD for many pages, but he was thinking I was town after I replaced in:

Spoiler:

i think nero's energy is townie but i dunno if i really know how to read him so take that with a grain of salt, but i'm not convinced by your case

This post sorta freaked me out b/c it seems like you've scumread me our last few games despite me being "high energy". I know you were scum in at least one though.

Don't really agree all that much that VD wouldn't have pushed back if he was scum,but its looking like VD wasn't scum sooo...

coulf argue that the hop on the tako wagon was from scum.

didn't like your case on cakez though I did agree with the part about the "joke" overall I thought it was pretty poor.

however, I did like all of 885 890 and 915. Maybe you could argue that this is distancing.

1300 was a very strange attack on you. I think it likely makes you town if Kitty is scum.

I've played a fair number of games with Nero, and I think we're pretty good at reading each other.

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Also I have a hard time believing this is SvS lol

Spoiler:

enchant is mafia, bc he doesnt consider gamma scum.
italiano is scum for enchant, italiano says nk15 is town, who is also scum for enchant... but enchant with no reason unvotes nk15, ignores my posts, and he doesnt say anything about gamma... gamma said italiano is a solid town. enchant ignores that, this is bad.

VOTE: enchant

or maybe gamma should be hanged for solid town italiano, but enchant is also too strange in searching scums

???
your sorting method seems basic as shit

at least he's hunting. zing

replacing gamma emerald

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Over90 do you have any completed scumgames?

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And he is pushing your 100% townie Enchant, and 100% townie csf for you, and you still dont scumread Dkkoba...

Yes

If town always scumread the same people, this game would be easy.

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I have already explained why I don't think Koba is scum.

I'm actually not sure if NK15 and Kitty are scum together. VC 1.3 would actually suggest against such a team. But I'd like to think at least one of {NK15, Kitty} is scum. If that's not the case, I doubt town will win this game anyway, so.

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I doubt I will have time to put much more effort into this game, so hammer away.

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Just lim NK15 tomorrow. Dude seems very scummy to me idk

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There's already a wagon on me, so shouldn't you be voting for me if you think that's the team?

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Wtf why is it so hard to Lim nk15? I'm not even feeling that good about kitty scum

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If we lim NK15 and he flips town, just lim me tomorrow

I will literally just not post

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I feel very strongly about nk15 scum >_<

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CSF/Kitty and CSF trying to save Kitty?

Or does CSF know Kitty is town?

UNVOTE:

Either way I don’t like this response to the wagon and I wanna find out which

>_<

Not Mafia, please vote for nk15

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Do you think scum!me would 1v1 nk15 like this

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CSF = gross shitpushing on me, accusing me of bussing as if I can't change my mind about someone

This is the only thing I can find where you explain why you scumread me

You had some reads where you did a 180, and the read progression was either lacking or was underexplained. I might've pushed you for that, but I stopped after you explained your reads a bit more. So if you're town here, I think you should read the game a bit more critically.

Is it really scummy of me to think that you having wild read changes is weird? What is your read on NK15?

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3. Not by itself. And NK15 is scum IMO.

Pinches nose bridge

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Cakez can you explain why you’re town to me?

STD's push on Cakez didn't feel partnered

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VOTE: NK15

I really disagree with the case on Math, and NK15's push seems like, ironically, "Pure opportunism.". NK15 sees TvT, NK15 pushes the attacked townie.

Last 2 scum are CSF and NK15.

Actually baffled by this but ok

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VOTE: NK15

I really disagree with the case on Math, and NK15's push seems like, ironically, "Pure opportunism.". NK15 sees TvT, NK15 pushes the attacked townie.

Last 2 scum are CSF and NK15.

Actually baffled by this but ok

What do you think about mathblade?

I don't know

Sorry this is massively unhelpful. I'm hoping to see a NK15 flip, so I can be motivated to find his partner if he flips scum or just give up if he's town

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Why is NK15 not scum with Math again?

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Yeah that's fair, Math has his pick of the lot with me and Kitty both being wagoned if he's scum, there's no particular reason for him to bus.

I'll be honest, I have no idea who is scum with NK15. The obvious answer is you, but I was kinda independently townreading your slot. It's just every time I open his ISO, I'm just like ....dude this cannot be town.

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I thought he was pretty town in my game though :/

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I see TMI indications and partner interactions from CSF.

VOTE: CSF

So yes, that's fine.

What did I TMI?

Nevermind. It is just Enchant and Mathblade.

Elsa claimed that the neighborhood had Enchant, Mathblade, herself and Mala on it but Mala didn't flip Neighbor Jailkeeper, just Jailkeeper.

Yet you leave your vote on me. I seriously doubt you believe this.

Can you answer what I tmi'd, nk15?

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If NK15 is town, I'll sheep you. I really want to see his flip though

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Why won't you hammer NK15

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I guess I can see a Kitty/Math team

Spoiler:

After talk in hood i think Math is maf after all.

VOTE: Math

Math is also pretty town IMO.

Not explained previously in this ISO - last mention of the slot was an unexplained carcalilly townlean on day 1

What tipped me off the hardest is mathblade refuses to look at the game as a whole and wont look at flipped scum interactions *at all*. Like this is a dead ringer. He will call me scum but CSF is fine. It is intentional ignorance. Mathblade is in a precarious situation where 2 partners went down early so he cant just powerscum and now he's stuck doing this lame routine of pushing bad faith arguments half assed.

It's CSF/Mathblade.
This *fits* and i do not see anything else that makes sense.

This also tracks with the kill on mala the previous night and the immediate reaction to sheep legacy - something mathblade *doesn't do* as town. He actually has been pretty adamant at ignoring me pointing out how weird he has been whem I've said "hey this is weird from you"

Like he doesn't want any attention put on it.

Well, now we shall shine a spotlight on you math. You can try to omgus me but town has a miselimination. I have a perfect solve, over90 believes in this solve, and the rest of the townies will follow my solve after i flip town(if not also because it makes sense)

Good luck to you.

CSF still first I think, if CSF is scum then Math is the last scum.

Pushes math conditionally on my scum flip, which is pretty convenient given I'm not going to flip scum.

CSF/Kitty and CSF trying to save Kitty?

Or does CSF know Kitty is town?

UNVOTE:

Either way I don’t like this response to the wagon and I wanna find out which

It's the latter. Over is just a wrong townie. Get CSF.

This could be SvS, because I don't see how this post is supposed to convince anyone that he (Kitty) is town and I'm scum. Ehhh I don't know

For context, Math put Kitty on E-1 for a hot second earlier that same page.

VOTE: NK15

I really disagree with the case on Math, and NK15's push seems like, ironically, "Pure opportunism.". NK15 sees TvT, NK15 pushes the attacked townie.

Last 2 scum are CSF and NK15.

I know I'm biased, but this post is just major "bruh"

But also what happened to sheeping town!Koba?

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Ugh I hate this game. I literally do not know

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Intent

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You know your scumteam theory is NK15 and me, the guy who's been gunning for NK15 since like day 3

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You're literally voting the wagon that your top scumread started and has been pushing for days

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I can really see a townie playing like this. I know I

did

as town.

Also this phrasing is suspect

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Eh nvm about that last post, still kinda prefer NK15 to Math though

Tied wagons. Who's not voting either of these wagons, Over90?

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Tako and bosco didnt think nk is mafia, tako knew his playstyle

You mean from day 1? ....


Tako is malakittens, who was pushing nk15 yesterday

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and what about your own opinion?

I mean, if you're going to do that, you might as well listen to Mala's latest read on NK15, which was a scumread

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Idk I mostly feel like Math would be smoother if he were scum

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I could hammer Math tbh, because this is getting kind of boring and over90 doesn't seem to want to take the responsibility

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VOTE: MathBlade

channeling my inner Enchant

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Well this game feels like an inevitable loss

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VOTE: kitty

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I'm not sure what to say beyond 2755

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gg!