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iirc nancy does the popcorn thing like, a lotIn post 67, Save The Dragons wrote:the popcorn was showy<Embrace The Void>
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absolutely rancidIn post 117, Not_Mafia wrote:
If my read is wrong, honestly, that's on youIn post 116, Nancy Sinatra wrote:
And when we flip town, how will you backtrack on that?In post 113, Not_Mafia wrote:
*Caught scum noises intensify*In post 106, Nancy Sinatra wrote:Not thrilled with HEM mischaracterizing my posting. What olive branch? And now NM is apparently tr the slot he previously called my hypothetical buddy.
No, I won’t be silenced NM, because your ubershitty read on me doesn’t change my alignment - which is town. Too fucking bad if you have a problem with that.
~N
I think it’s possible if HEM is scum, you could be a buddy. I didn’t pick up any weird vibes with you and STD but I feel some sort of possible connection with you and HEM.
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Why is that a sign of scumIn post 143, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
example of olive branchIn post 81, Nancy Sinatra wrote:See I actually think NM could be wrongly tunnelled town but you have decent scum equity.<Embrace The Void>
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Yeah I was thinking similarIn post 180, Nancy Sinatra wrote:
Dwlee could be scum. They know this is nai for me.In post 169, Dwlee99 wrote:Think Nancy has been really scummy. Her content is almost all reactive in a negative way.
My reactions to being being voted aren’t ai and I would expect Dwlee to know that.
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that doesn't answer the questionIn post 216, Not_Mafia wrote:Of course I’m not. And I think anyone suggesting so is being obtuse at best and disingenuous at worst<Embrace The Void>
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whatever. I think you should do so eventually given the votes not being how I think you'd prefer them to be rnIn post 235, Not_Mafia wrote:
I don't deign to answer at this junctureIn post 233, Gamma Emerald wrote:
that doesn't answer the questionIn post 216, Not_Mafia wrote:Of course I’m not. And I think anyone suggesting so is being obtuse at best and disingenuous at worst<Embrace The Void>
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being real, I think Roden is right about this. NM feels pretty legit, but I think the pressure on Nancy from some of the other slots feels rather disingenuous. StD/Dwlee is where my suspicions primarily lie regarding this.In post 245, Roden wrote:UNVOTE:
Sinatra vs NM is TvT. Can I get the two of you to back off for a moment and reset please?<Embrace The Void>
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VOTE: dwlee
out of std/dwlee I want to probe this path further
what are you seeing with nancy sinatra rn?
btw I think one of nancy's reads is pretty indicative that she's got her town mindset going rn<Embrace The Void>
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this doesn't actually mean anything that you're all seeing "the same thing"In post 367, Dwlee99 wrote:In post 364, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: dwlee
out of std/dwlee I want to probe this path further
what are you seeing with nancy sinatra rn?
btw I think one of nancy's reads is pretty indicative that she's got her town mindset going rn
This is bad when clearly HEM/STD/Me are all sniffing a similar vibe here. I only don't include NM because his reasoning is more opaque. But regardless, that both HEM and STD are melding with what I've said, means either we are all scum, or that the thought process behind finding Nancy scummy is genuineIn post 361, Gamma Emerald wrote:
being real, I think Roden is right about this. NM feels pretty legit, but I think the pressure on Nancy from some of the other slots feels rather disingenuous. StD/Dwlee is where my suspicions primarily lie regarding this.In post 245, Roden wrote:UNVOTE:
Sinatra vs NM is TvT. Can I get the two of you to back off for a moment and reset please?
what is it that you're seeing?<Embrace The Void>
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How are you sure it’s a town mindmeldIn post 375, Dwlee99 wrote:It's not about merit, it's that it's a town thought process that we think she is caught for wrong reasons. My point isn't even that we are right here, it's just that gamma calling the push disingenuous is bad
The progression of it doesn’t feel like what I’d expect out of that sort of thing at all, it was a one-by-one process where one person expressed that feeling and then another<Embrace The Void>
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How is the chance of HEM and StD being scum “pretty low”?In post 402, Dwlee99 wrote:
Well I know I'm not scum and the chance STD and HEM are both scum is pretty lowIn post 383, Gamma Emerald wrote:
How are you sure it’s a town mindmeldIn post 375, Dwlee99 wrote:It's not about merit, it's that it's a town thought process that we think she is caught for wrong reasons. My point isn't even that we are right here, it's just that gamma calling the push disingenuous is bad
The progression of it doesn’t feel like what I’d expect out of that sort of thing at all, it was a one-by-one process where one person expressed that feeling and then another
It’s not lower than the chance Nancy Sinatra alone is, I’ll tell you that.<Embrace The Void>
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what is WH?In post 769, Nancy Sinatra wrote:@Flea, @Gamma, do you think it’s possible I’m being pocketed? After WH, I’m so paranoid about once again getting shitpushed.<Embrace The Void>
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This is town!Nancy mindset, 100%In post 770, Nancy Sinatra wrote:
You think he and Kitty are aligned?In post 759, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i was kidding but it's cool
std did some spewing. what does everyone feel about that?
and playing good cop/bad cop on me?<Embrace The Void>
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HmmIn post 476, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Kitty?<Embrace The Void>
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In post 814, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i want to understand what's going on inside that heaaaaaaad<Embrace The Void>
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The good cop/bad cop thing is something I’ve only really seen mentioned by Town!nancy I think, and even if that’s inaccurate the application of it feels genuineIn post 811, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
what does everyone feel about this? does everyone else agree? what do we feel about gamma saying this?In post 807, Gamma Emerald wrote:
This is town!Nancy mindset, 100%In post 770, Nancy Sinatra wrote:
You think he and Kitty are aligned?In post 759, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i was kidding but it's cool
std did some spewing. what does everyone feel about that?
and playing good cop/bad cop on me?<Embrace The Void>
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I rate the odds of that as rather lowIn post 826, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
nancy seems self-aware of her meta. are you sure this isn't a pocket?In post 824, Gamma Emerald wrote:
The good cop/bad cop thing is something I’ve only really seen mentioned by Town!nancy I think, and even if that’s inaccurate the application of it feels genuineIn post 811, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
what does everyone feel about this? does everyone else agree? what do we feel about gamma saying this?In post 807, Gamma Emerald wrote:
This is town!Nancy mindset, 100%In post 770, Nancy Sinatra wrote:
You think he and Kitty are aligned?In post 759, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i was kidding but it's cool
std did some spewing. what does everyone feel about that?
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Ngl this thought process from HEM on KT feels like an attempt to pivot momentum, but my hold-up on that is the impetus for it feels absentIn post 481, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
yeah that's my question, i didn't think kitty showed much enough to give us anything to read on.In post 479, Nancy Sinatra wrote:
Tacky.In post 476, humaneatingmonkey wrote:Kitty?
They were flaming obvscum in OMB and are playing 180 degrees differently here.<Embrace The Void>
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Is there much of a difference?In post 835, Save The Dragons wrote:I wasn't waffling for 3 seconds I said I voted kitty for 3 seconds<Embrace The Void>
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I think I finally have a good idea what NM was going for thereIn post 492, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
this is gonna sound like a silly request but can you expound on this lmaoIn post 14, Nancy Sinatra wrote:The dm one could possibly result in my getting anaphylactic shock irl. I used to be extremely allergic to peanuts.
~N
what dm one? why did you bring up your peanut allergy?
i ask because n_m is being dodgy on what makes this scummy
As I see it, that reason is incredibly weaksauce<Embrace The Void>
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YouIn post 840, Save The Dragons wrote:I was waffling for a while? Like what is this line of questioningsaythat but there’s minimal in-thread evidence of waffling<Embrace The Void>
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There was a viable comeback, this was not it.In post 500, Save The Dragons wrote:I believe in meta when it makes my point. I don't believe it when it doesn't.<Embrace The Void>
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The fact you’re up in arms trying to act like it proves anything when imo it doesn’t is a bad look thoIn post 847, Save The Dragons wrote:
Ok? Doesn't mean it didn't happenIn post 845, Gamma Emerald wrote:
YouIn post 840, Save The Dragons wrote:I was waffling for a while? Like what is this line of questioningsaythat but there’s minimal in-thread evidence of waffling
Like you can disagree but it doesn't change that fact<Embrace The Void>
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wtf do you mean “maybe”In post 519, Save The Dragons wrote:I believe in some meta adjacent things but not meta itself. Like when people say "she's like this as town" maybe I agree.
When people say "In x game I was like this here's a link here's a quote" maybe I don't care<Embrace The Void>
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waitwaitwaitIn post 534, Save The Dragons wrote:I think all those things make you scum
I don't know what cftwr means<Embrace The Void>
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Wanna run this “mindmeld” by me again?In post 375, Dwlee99 wrote:It's not about merit, it's that it's a town thought process that we think she is caught for wrong reasons. My point isn't even that we are right here, it's just that gamma calling the push disingenuous is bad<Embrace The Void>
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In post 578, humaneatingmonkey wrote:std do you think you're towny?
So is that a noIn post 579, Save The Dragons wrote:I think I'm just wacky and getting sr for it<Embrace The Void>
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As I see it, none of what Nancy has observed about you is incorrect. So why are you way more blasé about defending yourself here?In post 626, Save The Dragons wrote:
You are the one not seeing it. It is not i who is not towningIn post 621, Nancy Sinatra wrote:
No, I already disproved that in the 2 towngames of yours I linked. You - imo - blatantly obvtowned in both when you were getting run up.In post 619, Save The Dragons wrote:Because that's who I am
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This feels strangeIn post 634, Save The Dragons wrote:I don't know what you want from me HEM my best guess is nancy
You’re “not sure” about Nancy but call her your best guess when Kitty seems like a more straightforward suspicion?<Embrace The Void>
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Really???In post 864, Save The Dragons wrote:I disagree
Let’s put this another way: you say you expect Nancy should re-eval you if she is town. But you also stated you think your wacky playstyle is getting you SR. Why not try and change it up and see what happens? The reason she’s not re-eval you is that you’re not doing anything to change her perception of you.<Embrace The Void>
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How often has that worked out for you?In post 871, Save The Dragons wrote:
Why should I change for other people esp when I can get correctly tr by being myselfIn post 869, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Really???In post 864, Save The Dragons wrote:I disagree
Let’s put this another way: you say you expect Nancy should re-eval you if she is town. But you also stated you think your wacky playstyle is getting you SR. Why not try and change it up and see what happens? The reason she’s not re-eval you is that you’re not doing anything to change her perception of you.<Embrace The Void>
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I think you sandbag yourself more oftenIn post 881, Save The Dragons wrote:
Well enough when scum doesn't try to sandbag meIn post 878, Gamma Emerald wrote:
How often has that worked out for you?In post 871, Save The Dragons wrote:
Why should I change for other people esp when I can get correctly tr by being myselfIn post 869, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Really???In post 864, Save The Dragons wrote:I disagree
Let’s put this another way: you say you expect Nancy should re-eval you if she is town. But you also stated you think your wacky playstyle is getting you SR. Why not try and change it up and see what happens? The reason she’s not re-eval you is that you’re not doing anything to change her perception of you.
Situation Room, LN 235, Pokémon LT
That’s just stuff of the top of my head where either I wrongly SR you or a substantial amount of other people wrongly SR you
I think it’s pretty clear you’re not as obvtown as you think a majority of the time<Embrace The Void>
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She has for meIn post 884, Save The Dragons wrote:You have not obvtowned<Embrace The Void>
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This just feels ickyIn post 702, Save The Dragons wrote:
This is why flea is town and Nancy is scumIn post 700, Flea The Magician wrote:
I will say ktacky has been a significantly low effort player so farIn post 673, Save The Dragons wrote:Kittytacky has spent 0 effort actually trying to parse me
While I do think some valid points have been made about KT’s play potentially evolving, to try and turn things against Nancy like this using this assessment of KT’s play, when it’s not really an indictment of his play at all and just an observation, is rather nasty.<Embrace The Void>
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I think he’s sunk into the same bad scumplay I would get involved with a lot where I’d dig my heels into a certain stance because dropping it felt like losing ground. It would be 100% simpler to actually take anything that’s been said on board but he hasn’t because he views it as damaging to his agenda.In post 890, Nancy Sinatra wrote:
Do you think it’s possible @Gamma that this isn’t total bs?In post 884, Save The Dragons wrote:You have not obvtowned
I really feel he has no interest in solving me.<Embrace The Void>
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This came way too late for when the point was madeIn post 725, Save The Dragons wrote:woe is me cannot come from town i guess
the flaw in nancy's meta read is that she's comparing two games where i was playing to day 6 and was greatly invested in being alive and not mislimmed. i also had a special role in FF that i didn't want to get mislimmed with. the fact she's not taking that into account is a little yucky
and that's not to say that i'm just a different person than the person who was playing those games
so that's why meta sucks<Embrace The Void>
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In post 897, Save The Dragons wrote:I've responded to Nancy?????? Like wtf do you think I'm doing
I already said Nancy hasn’t “made up” anything fmpov, you’re pulling a Principal Skinner rnIn post 898, Save The Dragons wrote:I'm trying to figure her out but she keeps making narratives and everyone is like "I guess making stuff up is cool"
You should be doing more than just “responding”, you should be analyzing, synthesizing, and adapting<Embrace The Void>
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Why only do it after Enchant basically threatened to co-hammer with NM? Up until that point he felt adversarial/in anti-spew mode. Ngl it reminds me of what I did in the last RC UPick when Toog threatened me with a daykill (I think I just realized RC used the s-bomb term despite there being discussion on fixing it to remove the sensitive word. One more shitty piece of that game ig)In post 759, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i was kidding but it's cool
std did some spewing. what does everyone feel about that?<Embrace The Void>
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Not to sound dumb but is that a Simpson’s reference?In post 903, Gamma Emerald wrote:In post 897, Save The Dragons wrote:I've responded to Nancy?????? Like wtf do you think I'm doing
I already said Nancy hasn’t “made up” anything fmpov, you’re pulling a Principal Skinner rnIn post 898, Save The Dragons wrote:I'm trying to figure her out but she keeps making narratives and everyone is like "I guess making stuff up is cool"
You should be doing more than just “responding”, you should be analyzing, synthesizing, and adapting
To be clear what I’m saying is STD’s response to me + others backing you/voting him is to essentially say “it’s the children that are wrong!”<Embrace The Void>
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I 100% blame you if you’re town here, because aside from 1 moment of what looks like desperation, you’ve been flippant and unreceptive to criticism.
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I detailed why it doesn’t come off as genuineIn post 917, Save The Dragons wrote:
I did here too and gammas like "nah this came too late doesn't count for some reason"In post 915, Nancy Sinatra wrote:When you were getting run up in Pokemon and FFIV, you didn’t just continue to do a word salad, you made good logical points.
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To add background, when Toog announced he was killing me I went into lolcatting mode for a while. When it turned out he picked someone else, I ended up in hot water because I spent an entire period of time filleting rather than actually giving tangible thoughts or doing anything town really should have down. As a result I had to minimize my focus and give deep thoughts. That’s what the stuff I called “too late” feels like.In post 906, Gamma Emerald wrote:
Why only do it after Enchant basically threatened to co-hammer with NM? Up until that point he felt adversarial/in anti-spew mode. Ngl it reminds me of what I did in the last RC UPick when Toog threatened me with a daykill (I think I just realized RC used the s-bomb term despite there being discussion on fixing it to remove the sensitive word. One more shitty piece of that game ig)In post 759, humaneatingmonkey wrote:i was kidding but it's cool
std did some spewing. what does everyone feel about that?<Embrace The Void>
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Just because she’s incorrect from your perspective doesn’t mean she can’t be correct from her povIn post 924, Save The Dragons wrote:Nancy has made up a narrative that I'm scared of her when I am not.
So fmpov she has made something up.
How am I supposed to treat that
A while back I had a game where I dayvigged Nero Cain for an off-hand comment I deemed suspicious, where he suggested I shoot a claimed PGO. He called it OMGUS, but I called it good intuition. In a way, it was both! I sniffed out that he wanted to maximize town death, but that was hinged on my knowledge of my alignment, so it technically was OMGUS.<Embrace The Void>
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Not saying a thing about it before you doIn post 957, Not_Mafia wrote:
What is my reason? Pray tell?In post 843, Gamma Emerald wrote:
I think I finally have a good idea what NM was going for thereIn post 492, humaneatingmonkey wrote:
this is gonna sound like a silly request but can you expound on this lmaoIn post 14, Nancy Sinatra wrote:The dm one could possibly result in my getting anaphylactic shock irl. I used to be extremely allergic to peanuts.
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what dm one? why did you bring up your peanut allergy?
i ask because n_m is being dodgy on what makes this scummy
As I see it, that reason is incredibly weaksauce<Embrace The Void>
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Kinda?In post 1008, Dwlee99 wrote:What exactly has Nancy done that is so hard to fake as scum that she is absolutely locktown? Is her scum game that polarized?
Have you seen the dig on her main recently?<Embrace The Void>
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that circumstantial meta is only rlly good for negative vidence, that is to say proving something doesn't mean something in the present game rather than showing something doesIn post 1040, Save The Dragons wrote:nacny's arguments are "i literally did X in Y games" and i always try to play differently to make that kind of meta useless
i've also pointed out why, even if i didn't do that, it's a bad argument
I sometimes also employ "situational meta" which is using past circumstances from games to form an opinion on the likely alignments of people within a similar situation in the current game<Embrace The Void>
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you say that but I feel like it's more intellectually honest for me to play that way vs. attempting other methods of sorting entirely
I feel like it's better for getting me correctly TR to use it, at least<Embrace The Void>
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In post 1045, humaneatingmonkey wrote:what are the odds of scum theater here guysIn post 1046, humaneatingmonkey wrote:nancy v std<Embrace The Void>
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Literally not what that meant at all!In post 1078, Save The Dragons wrote:
i agree kitty tacky is suspiciousIn post 1068, Gamma Emerald wrote:<Embrace The Void>
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Still shittyIn post 1127, Save The Dragons wrote:i know that was a joke<Embrace The Void>
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