Micro 1055 - Trolled

[Flea The Magician]

Holy shit thats a hell of a role

[Flea The Magician]

looks like this is a restriction heavy game then...

[Flea The Magician]

Give you 3 guesses what I gotta do

[Flea The Magician]

mwahahahahah

[Flea The Magician]

Val's role for us though would be eh no mask. System go nuts :3

[Flea The Magician]

It really is interesting. Any reason for the TEW vote?

[Flea The Magician]

ok so two lurker posters... oh gods do I have a rival hyper poster o.o

[Flea The Magician]

mwahahahahah

VOTE: Flea The Magician

*ebil finger pyramid of doom*

mwahahaha

[Flea The Magician]

Um. I think it's very cool that the game started with me being the leading wagon. I don't know why or how it happened but I'm excited to solve this mystery.

I don't have a post restriction, it's a post liberation. My posts will be positive, but if they were ever to be negative, any votes on me will be frozen for 48 hours, which I think is a very fun and engaging element.

VOTE: Radical Rat

But also HEAL: Radical Rat

Something you not sharing Roden? There is a heal but you're just positive? O.o

[Flea The Magician]

Thats fair

TEW making me ew.

[Flea The Magician]

I'm glad I don't have the restriction on posting.

I shall pray for you.

I would like to point out two things in case you didn't notice. One: Town wins if all threats to us are eliminated,

and

we still have

two

townies alive. Between that and night start, that basically means we have very little room for error. The other thing to note is this:

The_Evil_Within is a Priest.

Was really hoping you wouldn't point the preist bit out.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: MegAzumarill

I'm glad I don't have the restriction on posting.

Lucky you.

[Flea The Magician]

Disagree

Why?

I'm glad I don't have the restriction on posting.

I shall pray for you.

I would like to point out two things in case you didn't notice. One: Town wins if all threats to us are eliminated,

and

we still have

two

townies alive. Between that and night start, that basically means we have very little room for error. The other thing to note is this:

The_Evil_Within is a Priest.

That's part of the reason why I have a soft townread on you.

So you can't hammer
Interesting

It's also more commonly a town-aligned role rather than a scum-aligned.

And yet .. alignment is seperate to roles and abilities entirely.

[Flea The Magician]

So tako appears to be attempting to cover for for TEW...

Anyone else Sus?

[Flea The Magician]

How different is that from your normal meta anyways?
(Hint: it isn't)

Savage.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: takotsubo syndrome

[Flea The Magician]

Reading someone is one thing.
Alignment sorting based on a role is Sus.

[Flea The Magician]

Your read actually doesn't bother me at all.

.... Hang on gotta phone quote. Wish me luck

[Flea The Magician]

The other thing to note is this:

The_Evil_Within is a Priest.

That's part of the reason why I have a soft townread on you.

So you can't hammer
Interesting

It's also more commonly a town-aligned role rather than a scum-aligned.

More butchered than anticipated but less than expected lol.

So where's your read on TEW now?

[Flea The Magician]

Ratties a quote poster?

[Flea The Magician]

Kewl.

I suspect
I think
I don't think

Is Town
Is Scum

Eliminate
Protect
Vig
Gated

Readslist

Get in the bin

Towncore
Solve



Dunno if you can quite sections or not. If not just quite this and I can break it down for you

[Flea The Magician]

Azu wtf

[Flea The Magician]

Now I gotta make 30 extra damn posts

[Flea The Magician]

Also sorry rattie had a game on ^_^

[Flea The Magician]

Will break the rest down in an hour or two <3

[Flea The Magician]

What did you hope to gain by leaving it out there?

Exactly what I got, oddly enough.

Who's paying attention, who thinks it's AI, and potential associtives

[Flea The Magician]

Painful for a lot of us tbh

[Flea The Magician]

Like I don't mind hyper posting...

[Flea The Magician]

But I'm 200 miles from home

[Flea The Magician]

And ngl have spent a good amount of the night in a cosy dissociative maladaptive daydream with my bestie and one of their partners

[Flea The Magician]

Just all cuddled up watching Pokémon facts

[Flea The Magician]

Game is going to be so painful for me.

Side note, where's your TEW read at?

[Flea The Magician]

Maybe scum don't have a night kill, that'd be a troll for them, lol. I mean, this is going to be massively difficult with two players on a 23 hour posting cool down, it would be far too easy to just manipulate day play AND have a night kill. It's probably why one person died before game start too. 3 mis-elims puts us in LimLo and that's not even considering one player is a Priest.

You also missed my hyper post restriction which could bury those post's

[Flea The Magician]

That said I've learned to have massive Sus always on efforting enchant... And I don't know if scumchant posts that not have any reason to

[Flea The Magician]

Bastard game is a bastard game btw, never expect balance.

Oh and one more thing ..

[Flea The Magician]

Not

[Flea The Magician]

Yes

[Flea The Magician]

No

[Flea The Magician]

Goodbye

[Flea The Magician]

Game is going to be so painful for me.

Side note, where's your TEW read at?

TEW is back to null.

This game is going to get very hard to get reads on players.

Enchant is notorious for being lurkscum so having the restriction like Enchant does is going to make it near impossible to read that slot.
Toog is notorious for also being lurk-sack and very hard to read. So the restriction is going to make it just as bad.

I have zero feeling on MegA & Radical Rat.

So this is going to be just a crapshoot in terms of trying to read players.

Yeah weird that both lurker low posters got the same restriction... Means naff all tbh. Just weird and I have a posrcoumt to maintain

[Flea The Magician]

I am not sure of motivation of abstaining and then freezing vote on it. Of course, checking "what if everyone vote Abstain" is tempting, but probably it will end up in "person with most votes ded" or something trolly.

Responding to Flea, i think i am always same idiot regardless of alignment, just more informed if scum, so you probably can't catch me on Day 1, unless i am disinterested in game or making braindead plays (which is often). And that's normal, so far i think day1 elims on scum are either luck, poor scum play or designated bus. Of course i earn spits from expertmafiachasers who say i am wrong, or something like that, well let's face it, i look at mafia differently, you are right as well.

About restriction, i think it's not really

my

problem for now, as early game i don't really have much words. Afterwards i will think how to deal with problem.


about rule 10. This rule looks exactly like purpose to defeating Scum Prince or like that, so maybe you are right as well, but if you look at wording... Like, if scum executed they die and town win due all mafia death. Why highlight that?

Likelyhood of mafia being unable to NK is pretty low. Most funny thing, NK15 can just say "Oh funny idea, now there's no NK from this point" or reverse idea and give NK back.

Like really. Restrictions are annoying, especially RR one, but that's not even medium bastardly. Probably should be vary on mod.

Also i sleep.

When have I ever called you an idiot? You know j respect your game

[Flea The Magician]

You're right though, your D1 is hell to work your alignment out and mostly pointless because no data like ever.

[Flea The Magician]

I have full faith in everyone's ability to pick correctly hence why I have frozen my abstention.

This feels like a cop out. "Can't blame me I didn't vote" etc

[Flea The Magician]

No Execution is not avaliable.

Rule 9 btw

[Flea The Magician]

As to other arguments as ti why to sustain, it is objectively favorable to try to return to odds, and given the bastardness of the setup, we shouldn't suspect that to happen by night actions. Having everyone freeze their vote on abstain forces one of three things to happen: 1) No elimination which is the goal 2) Werewolves pick kill which while undesirable is ultimately a worthwhile risk or 3) Random elimination.

So this in mind, you are absolutely right in strategy planning, but it's not possible to go back to odds by no lim.
2 is possible if we have strong wolves
3 I'm unsure about and would imagine it goes to the last leading wagon or last vote.
Looking at my consequences and those others have shared, first living player on the list maybe

[Flea The Magician]

Rat is nailing this btw

[Flea The Magician]

Post restriction games will do that. I'm usually fluff filled when I have to hyper post or just hyper post in general.

[Flea The Magician]

END OF FULL MOON

There will be no further nightkills.

Amazing, we have more time

[Flea The Magician]

MegAzumarill

; Radical Rat; Roden;Toogeloo;Enchant;

Watching ya'll today.

[Flea The Magician]

I foresight you ask me why i did hammer, so there is.

Let's just say, accusation like i didn't receive role and faking it is borderline stupid. Like... You know i can easily confirm it by posting more often that allowed and looking if my vote will freeze? Of course i then turn on liability (even more than i am already lald), and will be forceelimmed anyway. I considered this accusation in simple provocation to me for break my OATH and striked first.

The fact that this post restriction doesh't bother me... Well. Yep? What you expected lol


Either way, seems like mod thinked about making it fairly, giving us doubleday. There's also noticable that every vote is not on Roden anymore.
Town have no reason to NOT use ability, as this is funny and harmless, so i think it's simple mafia changing killers and being unable to multitask or noaction/block or out of shots idk. What it gives actually? Probably nothing. Everything in this game is borderline useless so far.

Either way, i want decapitate Toog.

tldr kill toogs, roden isn't starting with all votes which is well spotted.
Also you're a known lolhammerer, the over explaination is probably AI but we don't have brain to work out which way.

[Flea The Magician]

Fuck it, sure. 1v1, let's go.

VOTE: Enchant
VOTE:

FREEEEEZE!

Spicy. The two minimum posters in a 1vs1.

[Flea The Magician]

thats the problem, brain is wibbly rn so cant remember.

theres a game in mind rn which i'll need to look over tomorrow.

[Flea The Magician]

About what?

Enchant we can remember being salty over an over explained night action, now I'm back and AlterD is asleep, it was SAI for Enchant. The problem is the wall poster restriction is probably enforcing that. So normally SAI, could be NAI, will have to keep an eye on them at this point.

[Flea The Magician]

Will dig, no promises. Trying to think which game it was.

[Flea The Magician]

Will dig, no promises. Trying to think which game it was.

[Flea The Magician]

And even then, its one game but there was a post game comment about it, so its open to interpretation.

[Flea The Magician]

Game to enchants ISO: viewtopic.php?p=13307345&user_select%5B ... #p13307345

Postgame: viewtopic.php?p=13344077#p13344077


Enchant had a lot more drive there than usual and even attempted to justify the hammer. The postgame comments are what have stuck with me and are why I'm cautious around an Enchant that justifies or overexplains.

[Flea The Magician]

This game is literally going to just freeze up over these two isnt it...

[Flea The Magician]

little woozy at the moment from travel exaustion
going to look over toogs and enchant tomorrow.

[Flea The Magician]

viewtopic.php?t=89457&f=83&st=0&sk=t&sd ... er_sort=Go

17 posts, lets do this.
poster#number

This is the second time I'm doing this because Vivaldi lost my notes.

T#8 - Mech infomation. I find it curious that the role would be designed for pooky, I tend to post more than pooks until they get tunnelled and I have hyperposter. While I can lurk, hyperposter is well within my range.

E#16 - same role. Enchants a lurksack anyway so don't see how this is much of a troll.

E#33 - Additional information on the restriction doesn't apply for the first 2 posts.

E#38 - Surprise at the mass vote on roden. Seems to be wasting the post and has adding nothing beyond limited mech overall.

T#55 - Confirms the first two posts thing, more speculation on setup but given this is a bastard game and my own habits, this is pointless spec. "The point of the game is to get a role card that isn't you" - I'm a hyperposter, I can absolutely hyperpost as you've all seen previously. Worth noting Toogs didn't sign up originally because didn't want a scum role. Pooks is amazing at scum so this makes me think a bit.

E#121 - Enchant does a lot of rule and mech spec, also acknowledge this. Votes to abstain and has said they dislike TEW. Efforting enchant scares the life out of me if I'm entirely honest. This level of mech from enchant is concerning and the acknowledging of the early claim being bad is really throwing me.

T#122 - Minimal mech response.

E#142 - As I said previous, efforting enchant scares me, that there's actually decent posts scares me a little. That said, there's enough content here for me to attempt to deep dive it - only downside is I'm sure English isn't Enchants first language and while they're fluent in it, it can affect my kind of analysis. Word choice and flow here seems quite relaxed if a little thoughtful and frankly I've not seen enchant this genuine and clear in a freaking long time.

T#143 - ELI5 on abstain

T#160 - Naked vote on TEW. Even for toogs this is... lacking.

E#161 - A rare non-hammer for Enchant, on a townie too. Enchant this game is so far off established meta its ridiculous.

T#167 - Toogs in with mech. Problem I'm having with toogs currently is there's nothing really there to look at.

E#168 - ==[]

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E#174 - The word flow is very broken again and very much back to regular enchant. Again, over explaining enchant scares me but looking back, this is fitting for this game so far. There's no reason for the toog chop given other than the meme and I'm pretty curious as to why.

T#175 - the 1vs1 seems pretty town, but again thats about all there is. Freezing the vote seems a little far imo but again, no reasons given for any of this other than YOLO.

E#196 - Enchant clearly not expecting the 1vs1, not sure how the toog lockon is town for enchant but eh.

T#197 - Playing chicken, but with frozen vote. Am sus.

[Flea The Magician]

Honestly, I'd go for Toogs here if we're staying in the 1vs1.

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That shoul help with post numbers and multiple choice questions.

1 - Seperate ISOs
2 - Seperate Days

post number

- specific posts and my comentary.

[Flea The Magician]

T#175 - the 1vs1 seems pretty town, but again thats about all there is. Freezing the vote seems a little far imo but again, no reasons given for any of this other than YOLO.

Fuck it, sure. 1v1, let's go.

VOTE: Enchant
VOTE:

FREEEEEZE!

I don't think scum lock in like this to the 1vs1 unless it's a balls out play, honestly.
It is an overreaction, it is uncalled for, I'm inclined to think scum wouldn't normally do that.

Things affecting this, the restrictions, bastard element to the game.

[Flea The Magician]

malakittens has

not

been prodded.

Interesting.

[Flea The Magician]

I mean, I'm a hyper poster, I'm wanting more to work with as well.

Tee annoyance is that I want you to elaborate on your read on me but I gotta wait a whole damn day for you to respond, and knowing you as I do, I won't get a response.

[Flea The Magician]

Toogs ily.

[Flea The Magician]

The problem I have with both of you is you're both low posters who can absolutely made some epic plays and don't get enough respect imo.

This is why I'm hedgy. Because reading either of you is a pain and when you're supposedly going into 1vs1 what else is there to do but twiddle thumbs.

The other thing is game state is getting complacent and stalling and I'm not sure how to ready that at the moment given the restrictions we have.

[Flea The Magician]

As far as I know, we still have night phases, just no more night kills. Meaning there's still something likely to fuck with us.

[Flea The Magician]

-If either Enchant or I is not town, then all 4 votes to eliminate someone can still come from town.
-If both Enchant and I are town, them in order to get a scum elimination today, one scum must bus the other.

So big question from me to you, is do you regret freezing your vote there? Or would you still go for the 1vs1?

If not, me and Mala you said?

[Flea The Magician]

Also...

Spoiler:

This is important to the game mechanics.

Best selling song in the year i was born...

[Flea The Magician]

oh

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you

[Flea The Magician]

butt

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it

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is

[Flea The Magician]

on.

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Do

[Flea The Magician]

you

[Flea The Magician]

think

[Flea The Magician]

that

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forcing

[Flea The Magician]

the

[Flea The Magician]

break

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is

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pro

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town?

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I

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to be

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The Top Poster

[Flea The Magician]

or

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Top 3

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gets

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a

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Strike.

[Flea The Magician]

Top poster - clear
Top 3 - strike
other - broken.

[Flea The Magician]

So Toogie Boogie, What about this is protown for you to be doing?

[Flea The Magician]

I got nothing for ya. Just trying to keep in the spirit of the game.

Closest competition for your crown is dead.

Yeah that's a thought, should probably go back and check out MegAs reads.

[Flea The Magician]

Wtf

Sorry, someone decided to challenge me :3

[Flea The Magician]

Mala you're seasoned at this stuff, you any good with NKA or VCA?

[Flea The Magician]

Oh ok actually fuck all there.
The hell was that kill o.O

[Flea The Magician]

Day 2 ends in (expired on 2022-06-12 16:49:00), or earlier.

Yeah they are.

[Flea The Magician]

So yeah, if we must do the 1v1, and unfortunately Toog freezing means we must, I have to vote Toogeloo here.

Another thing worth noting is that if Toog IS Town here... Where are the scum votes? The only team that makes sense for me in that universe given the stalled wagon is Roden/Enchant, because otherwise why wouldn't scum just put him at E-1 and let Enchant take the hammer?

And while Roden's in my maybe pile... Enchant's a townread, as I've already said, so I'm not really comfortable betting on that.

We still have an out of the 1vs1, if it was enchant frozen on toogs as well then yeah we're locked in.

I was genuinely expecting more from both on the other.

That said, I am in the same position and if we are in the 1vs1, I'm inclined to go toogs because of the iso review I did and I wouldn't put it past them to pull a balls to the wall play like this.

[Flea The Magician]

Mala whats your restriction? Like everyone seems to have one bar you?

[Flea The Magician]

Also plz turn the cruise control off.

[Flea The Magician]

Theres no kill tonight, at least so we have some room for error at least...

VOTE: Malakittens

Lets do it.

[Flea The Magician]

It was.
Does that change how you read anything?

[Flea The Magician]

Welcome to the Twilight Zone.


definitely a troll lol

[Flea The Magician]

Love to know how you're at that conclusion.
My game changes fairly regular based on mood and conditions.

[Flea The Magician]

Broke myself over the weekend... this is THE slowest game ever I think o.o

[Flea The Magician]

Ok toogy, so you're ignoring me asking why you think this is my scum game, and then openly saying you're a detriment to town, and NOW you've said...

Rat is almost certainly town. No way the dead thread eliminates them. You trying to discredit that slot was bad play.

The dead thread hasn't eliminated anyone that I'm aware of, so I'm going to need you to clarify this.

[Flea The Magician]

Thats actually a good point.

[Flea The Magician]

I am mentally sturggling at the moment, a lot of shit happened.

I'm so torn on toogs. I need t read Roden and Rat when I'm braining decently again.

[Flea The Magician]

D2 mostly, Toogs and rat breaking restrictions is interesting to say the least.

[Flea The Magician]

Toogs being THAT desperate is, alarming, frankly.

[Flea The Magician]

Rat breaking restriction strikes me as potentially town, because of the nature of the restriction basically.

[Flea The Magician]

Sorry, making sure I'm surviving post counts.

Enchant now dropping and running is just as concerning ngl.

I still don't why the vote there but I think it's been mentioned already.

TLDR is I got triggered by someone refusing to respect that no means no, not keep trying to call me.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Toogaloo

Screw it. Lets go. i've only ever played with town toogs and they're usually a LOT more laid back than this.

I am still struggling atm and realised today is not a good date but also have had some overwhelming good news.

[Flea The Magician]

Its not over until its over Enchant, you know that.

When you're able, wheres your head at with reads?

[Flea The Magician]

yeah this is excruciating -.-;

[Flea The Magician]

So who do you feel is maf Enchant? cause this is a 1vs1 stalemate.

[Flea The Magician]

tbh this game feels dead -.-;
I'm wondering if the dead thread need us to have a majority?

[Flea The Magician]

Yeah exactly. This game is about getting trolled. It's bad enough we can't eliminate but I'm thinking we still need majority for the deadthread to hammer.

[Flea The Magician]

I don't think we can eliminate today.

With 2 broken restrictions meaning 2 frozen votes we can't eliminate unless Enchant self-hammers.
There's no further kills either so this is going to DRAAAAAAAAG.

Rat why abstain again?

[Flea The Magician]

We need 3 to eliminate with 4 votes - two of them are frozen. 3 are required to hammer.

Either we abstain today, risk you being yeet regardless by plurality or see if it goes as no-elim, or yeet you.

ngl I don't like this one freaking bit.

[Flea The Magician]

Alternatively, I reread you, see if anything jumps out far enough for me to convince myself you are town, we can try for the plurality elimination between us.

[Flea The Magician]

My punishment is that my vote is frozen on abstain, yes. BUT it doesn't apply in ELo, which is the only reason I even considered breaking my restriction.

In any case, I think Enchant is the correct elimination here. If we had mislimmed yesterday, the game would be over, so that's not really a good time for scum to try bussing, so Roden hard pushing me/Toog as the team I think more or less confirms us Town.

And between Flea/Enchant... I'd go for Enchant

OK thats good to know, I thought it was the same that you could change it but during day phases its locked.

[Flea The Magician]

The way I see it, I am betting the game on Rat being town. If Enchant is town, I am putting Flea at the top of my list tomorrow.

Curious why?

[Flea The Magician]

yet.

[Flea The Magician]

I intend to keep mine going.

[Flea The Magician]

ok so pending a quick read over roden, toogs is likely biastown to me, Enchant making effort will always scare the shit out of me. I don't think as last time Rat abstains.

[Flea The Magician]

last scum*

[Flea The Magician]

Any thoughts on Rat though, Enchant? You kind of ignored them. Do you agree they are more than likely town?

Obviously.

But considering how i am always wrong, you are not by any means forced to really follow my mind. Who knows, maybe they vote you out anyway.

I literally don't care. Go wild.

Btw.

I AM LAST PERSON ALIVE WITH POST RESTRICTION WHILE NOT BREAKING IT.
BWHAHAHAHA. I WON.

Flea hasn't broken faers yet.

Hah. No, i won.

Roden claimed restriction like we very few where Roden must be happy with everything. It was Lie.
Me and Toog could't post more often than 23 hours. It's truthful, simple by mod logic.
Radical Rat claimed restriction where he must use quotes.
Malakittens doesh't have one.
takotsube syndrome doesh't have one.
Meg doesh't have one.
Val89 had LEGION.
The Evil Withing was Publical Priest.


Flea is only person claiming having restrictions with warn system. Looking how others roles are designed, i don't think NK15 simple "Well if you are not topposter, then it's instapog for you", because lazy.


... Could NK15 just fucked with our minds? Well yes, but i bet Flea lied instead.
Therefore i won. PRAISE ME.

PRAISE.

Meg outposted me D1, because I was still second poster I ate a warning. same if I was 3rd.
If I'm not top 3, my restriction is fully broken.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: Enchant

Efforting enchant is scummy, and in a game where every single one of us is getting trolled to hell - thats a bad take on restriction solving.

[Flea The Magician]

I know my restriction, and you're attempting to mechsolve in a bastard game designed to rickroll us like its the late 2000s

When you effort its usually because you need to save your own butt. You're not self hammering because it's against your wincon lets face it.

[Flea The Magician]

I am happy to delay until you're in more capable place toogs.

[Flea The Magician]

VOTE: toogaloo

Obligatory x-vote

[Flea The Magician]

Gg peeps <3
We forgot about this ngl we had a spicy brain time.
We also weren't confident in survivng YOLO anyway