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Frogsterking
Frogsterking
He/him
Jack of All Trades
Frogsterking
He/him
Jack of All Trades
Jack of All Trades
Posts: 6935
Joined: June 20, 2011
Pronoun: He/him
Location: Pond
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Post #30 (isolation #0) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 12:00 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
You guys seem like a lobby who want to try my Standard Survey Start (SSS).
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #36 (isolation #1) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:47 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
Okay on a skim by the way I scum read Dunnstral.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #37 (isolation #2) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 2:47 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
VOTE: Dunnstral
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
He's just voting some person for no reason and lurking and barely saying anything.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #53 (isolation #4) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 4:55 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
Let's hammer Dunn IMO
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #57 (isolation #5) » Wed Jul 20, 2022 8:14 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
In post 54, Dunnstral wrote:Frogsterking, do you think you play differently at the start of a game when you are mafia compared to when you are town?
In post 55, Dunnstral wrote:Frogsterking, do you have any thoughts about the setup? Optimal strategy, any plans for what to do, etc.?
Dunn if you want me to Town read you then get a real scum read.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #152 (isolation #6) » Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:28 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
UNVOTE: Dunnstral
I'm starting to think Dunnstral may be a paranoid Townie and not scum.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #153 (isolation #7) » Fri Jul 22, 2022 12:42 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
VOTE: Phoenix
Okay
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
Guilty Lion made a case and I'm going to follow it until I learn otherwise.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #185 (isolation #9) » Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:34 am
Postby Frogsterking »
This is 4v1 right not 3 v2?
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #187 (isolation #10) » Tue Jul 26, 2022 2:36 am
Postby Frogsterking »
In post 181, Ph0enix wrote:I'm struggling to figure out why Scum chose to kill Galron of all people. I was sure Alex wasn't surviving the night, given that he was basically universally TR-ed and he had a good D1. Furthermore, Galron was on the wagon against me, so leaving him alive would make it easier for me to get eliminated today.
I think it's probably important.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
In post 181, Ph0enix wrote:I'm struggling to figure out why Scum chose to kill Galron of all people. I was sure Alex wasn't surviving the night, given that he was basically universally TR-ed and he had a good D1. Furthermore, Galron was on the wagon against me, so leaving him alive would make it easier for me to get eliminated today.
I think it's probably important.
I mean, Ph0enix are you assessing the night kill to be a bad choice?
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #196 (isolation #13) » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:24 am
Postby Frogsterking »
In post 195, Ph0enix wrote:My point is this kill makes both me and Alex look bad, IMO. That's why I think it's a good kill.
So it's unlikely Sara suggested the kill.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #197 (isolation #14) » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:27 am
Postby Frogsterking »
VOTE: GuiltyLion
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #198 (isolation #15) » Tue Jul 26, 2022 3:34 am
Postby Frogsterking »
Unless you think Alex didnt have any great alternatives.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
Frogsterking wrote:Unless you think Alex didnt have any great alternatives.
Given your vote and this post I'm assuming you think Alex had an alternative. Who would that be?
I'm blanking a little bit.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
In post 181, Ph0enix wrote:I'm struggling to figure out why Scum chose to kill Galron of all people. I was sure Alex wasn't surviving the night, given that he was basically universally TR-ed and he had a good D1. Furthermore, Galron was on the wagon against me, so leaving him alive would make it easier for me to get eliminated today.
I think it's probably important.
I mean, Ph0enix are you assessing the night kill to be a bad choice?
Actually I can't find shit to read for in this game. I need to look at more than just the night kill
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #203 (isolation #18) » Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:07 am
Postby Frogsterking »
If I can eliminate you and Guilty Lion then I'm left with Alex.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #204 (isolation #19) » Tue Jul 26, 2022 5:15 am
Postby Frogsterking »
VOTE: Alexcellent
I don't know why you TR Alex D1.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #220 (isolation #20) » Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:08 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
In post 218, Ph0enix wrote:@Frogster: 1. Thoughts on Dunn's meta read on you in 63? 2. Could you walk me through your voting pattern, and more specifically me --> GL --> Alex?
Dunn's meta read is wrong and bad. That's the extent of my thoughts on it. I think they wasted their time I guess.
I switched onto Alex instead of GL because I read Alex's D1 iso and realized it's much worse than I expected. I thought you seemed townie in the thread earlier when you were asking me questions so I was deciding between those two.
I don't see my D1 ph0enix vote as having any connection with the GL -> Alex series.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #222 (isolation #21) » Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:13 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
In post 218, Ph0enix wrote:and I don't even know what 203 is supposed to mean.
This is an issue, do you feel like you have a clear grasp on the concept of deductive reasoning?
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #226 (isolation #23) » Tue Jul 26, 2022 11:35 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
In post 68, Alexcellent wrote:So I feel pretty good about Dunnstral as town. Will probably wait to see how Frogster reacts though but yeah, those are some good call outs. Idk why scum!Frogster jumps in with that vote though unless he's scum with Bambi, but I don't reeeally like connecting those dots this early.
In post 72, Alexcellent wrote:I may not have stuck to my guns on that scum read D1 and ended up paying for it since town lost, so I may have a bit of paranoia there about her play in general. But that Dunnstral vote gives me legit the same vibe I got from the last mini with Elsa/Bambi.
In post 143, Alexcellent wrote:I've read back through the GL/Phoenix stuff a few times and yeah, I dunno. I at least think it's not a Phoenix/GL scum team. And I kinda feel that it's not a GL/Galron scum team either so that's neat. There's stuff in there that I dislike but it's probably more that I disagree with so I'm just going to roll with the idea that it's probably TvT.
These posts caught my attention by showing Alex fence-sitting and being noncommittal and cagey. Like wtf is he even stating in any of these posts. These posts are a superficial illusion of sharing thoughts.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
In post 218, Ph0enix wrote:and I don't even know what 203 is supposed to mean.
This is an issue, do you feel like you have a clear grasp on the concept of deductive reasoning?
Oh, you mean "eliminate" as in by process of elimination, I thought you meant "eliminate" as "vote off".
Yeah I was referring to process of elimination
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
In post 68, Alexcellent wrote:So I feel pretty good about Dunnstral as town. Will probably wait to see how Frogster reacts though but yeah, those are some good call outs. Idk why scum!Frogster jumps in with that vote though unless he's scum with Bambi, but I don't reeeally like connecting those dots this early.
In post 72, Alexcellent wrote:I may not have stuck to my guns on that scum read D1 and ended up paying for it since town lost, so I may have a bit of paranoia there about her play in general. But that Dunnstral vote gives me legit the same vibe I got from the last mini with Elsa/Bambi.
In post 143, Alexcellent wrote:I've read back through the GL/Phoenix stuff a few times and yeah, I dunno. I at least think it's not a Phoenix/GL scum team. And I kinda feel that it's not a GL/Galron scum team either so that's neat. There's stuff in there that I dislike but it's probably more that I disagree with so I'm just going to roll with the idea that it's probably TvT.
These posts caught my attention by showing Alex fence-sitting and being noncommittal and cagey. Like wtf is he even stating in any of these posts. These posts are a superficial illusion of sharing thoughts.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #230 (isolation #26) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 4:41 am
Postby Frogsterking »
*whispers* It's Alex
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #234 (isolation #27) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:00 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
UNVOTE: alex232 is bad enough to make me reconsider.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #235 (isolation #28) » Wed Jul 27, 2022 11:00 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
VOTE: GuiltyLion
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
This is not a useful response, what specifically do you dislike about my post
You're jumping to a lot of conclusions and seem biased against reasons to trust me and vote Alex. For example you're greatly overvaluing Dunn's meta case which doesn't use a sufficiently large sample size to support its conclusion. You also made a couple concrete errors in your assessments of this game. For example you said I implied all Alex has done is fence sit and I think you'll have trouble quoting where I actually implied that.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #252 (isolation #30) » Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:31 am
Postby Frogsterking »
UNVOTE: GuiltyLion
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #253 (isolation #31) » Thu Jul 28, 2022 11:36 am
Postby Frogsterking »
VOTE: Guilty Lion
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #257 (isolation #32) » Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:15 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
In post 256, GuiltyLion wrote:a) what are the reasons to trust you? I reread the game and really didn't find any
Because I'm statistically more likely to be telling you the truth.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #259 (isolation #33) » Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:24 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
In post 256, GuiltyLion wrote:, it does look like in your most recent town games you had a more broad focus on the entire playerlist
The problem is that this observation isn't AI. You're jumping to the conclusion that it must be AI even though you're clearly aware of the dangers of drawing conclusions based off a small sample size.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #260 (isolation #34) » Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:26 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
VOTE: Alex
Whatever. I can recognize a confbiased Townie when I see one.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #261 (isolation #35) » Thu Jul 28, 2022 1:29 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
Let me know if you feel like listening at some point.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
Alex is my best scum read so far by a mile. I also am optimistic because I think there is a lot of AI information being posted. If you can find it in your heart to trust me then I believe my vote is good enough to sheep.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #267 (isolation #37) » Fri Jul 29, 2022 10:46 am
Postby Frogsterking »
More parallel communicating from Alex
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #269 (isolation #38) » Fri Jul 29, 2022 1:46 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
Parallel communication (information in clumps rather than serialized) and communicating like giving a monologue (instead of having a back and forth) are exactly what I'm accusing Alex of doing D2 by the way.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #272 (isolation #39) » Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:54 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
In post 271, ceejayvinoya wrote:It also annoyed me how he only started casing alex after singling him out via process of elimination on 203 and 204.
I don't see how this could possibly annoy you. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you wrote.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
In post 271, ceejayvinoya wrote:It also annoyed me how he only started casing alex after singling him out via process of elimination on 203 and 204.
I don't see how this could possibly annoy you. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you wrote.
And on the same note (the rest of 271), it looks like your reasons for scum reading Alex are based directly on his play, whereas your reasons for scum reading me have more to do with you than they do with my play.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
In post 271, ceejayvinoya wrote:It also annoyed me how he only started casing alex after singling him out via process of elimination on 203 and 204.
I don't see how this could possibly annoy you. Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you wrote.
In post 274, ceejayvinoya wrote:Arghh this would have been so much easier if you were like this day 1.
Can you please elaborate on both of these comments, ceejay?
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #277 (isolation #42) » Fri Jul 29, 2022 7:27 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
In post 276, ceejayvinoya wrote: It's just that usually when I roll mafia I look for the lowest hanging fruit/the one who looks town the least and vote there.
I understand what you're referring to now. No worries, that's not what I'm doing.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #281 (isolation #43) » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:12 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
I have no problem getting hammered today..assumimg Alex is the one to do it, of course.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #282 (isolation #44) » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:18 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
If you guys can't convince Alex to hammer me then I have very bad news for you.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
This smells a lot like desperate last minute scum play so I'm even more confident in a red flip here now. Kuti or Ceejay, you're free to vote and I will hammer.
Dun Dun Dunnnnn
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #285 (isolation #46) » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:48 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
UNVOTE: Alex
VOTE: ceejay
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #287 (isolation #47) » Sat Jul 30, 2022 5:54 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
Gamesolving
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
It's ceejay. We're death tunneling each other because we're both unafraid to post in the game thread. Guilty Lion is spinning their wheels because they lost confidence in their early read on Phoenix.
Ceejay voted Alex to pocket me and because Alex was pretty openly suspicious of Phoenix on D2. Ceejays stuff about my D2 being better than my D1 and the annoyance at me using PoE is just fake angst.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
No, I want you to unvote. I want you to hammer me ceejay.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #295 (isolation #51) » Sat Jul 30, 2022 8:57 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
Oh no what have we done
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
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Post #324 (isolation #52) » Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:42 pm
Postby Frogsterking »
Hey this was a good game everyone, thank you for playing. I'm very glad Town came out ahead on this one. I had a good read on Alex for most of D2 but I was thoroughly thrown off by the strength of their reply after I requested they hammer.
Bruce: Terry. I've been thinking about something you once told me... and you were wrong. It's not Batman that makes you worthwhile; it's the other way around. Never tell yourself anything different.
Terry: ...Thanks.
I am fine with this.