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Seanzie’s assertion that Haschel would be worried about a doctor WIFOM kill is improbable for an uninformed town to think.

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Okay? But Galron can be informed of anything. There’s nothing saying that Galron was informed that there is a non consecutive night doctor, he could have just as easily be informed that there’s a Town Rolecop, or that there is a Town Roleblocker (assuming KT isn’t lying).

Sure, but if you're a PR and a mafia flips informed, you're going to think that it is at least possible that mafia knows of your existance.

No? I don’t think I would ever change my behavior as a PR based on a scum flipping informed.

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We have 3 PR claims and 1 flipped PR, so there is theoretically a world in which they can coexist. If there does happen to be another PR, then someone here is lying. If there is exactly one scum in the PR claims, it has to be Seanzie.

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Haschel’s claim feels beyond genuine. He’s absolutely, categorically, lock town.

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We have 3 PR claims and 1 flipped PR, so there is theoretically a world in which they can coexist. If there does happen to be another PR, then someone here is lying. If there is exactly one scum in the PR claims, it has to be Seanzie.

IF YOU ARE A POWER ROLE, CLAIM NOW. IF YOU ARE A PR, THEN ONE OF SEANZIE AND HASCHEL IS CONFIRMED SCUM. IF EVERYONE IS A VT, THEN SEANZIE, HASCHEL, AND KT ARE 99% CLEARED.

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Actually not 99% cleared. Theoretically there can be only 3 pr’s, I’ve modded games with 3 scum and 3 pr’s. But I almost always see 4 PRs in 13 player mini normals.

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I am Jester.

Do you think Haschel is town?

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What I’m getting at is that:
It is extremely unlikely there are 5 town prs in a 13 player normal game, 4 is standard, 3 is unlikely but possible.
We have 3 pr claims (Seanzie, Haschel, KT) and 1 flipped pr (Eiralox).
If there is another PR, then one of Seanzie or Haschel is lying as Seanzie claimed to have an inno on KT.

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Does this make sense?

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Does this make sense?

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if you give kitty a pool of two people, unless thats literally the team they just have the person not on the list do the kill

I 100% believe that if if klick is town you and hasche are the scumteam

What about if Klick is scum? Who do you think is his partner?

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I wasn’t a flame fanned when I was talking about the you/Gamma interaction, I had valid reasons to townread and scumread both of you and was trying to reconcile them in order to solve.

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I wasn’t a flame fanned when I was talking about the you/Gamma interaction, I had valid reasons to townread and scumread both of you and was trying to reconcile them in order to solve.

There's a reason you're not the first in my ordered PoE. I'm not denying that your behavior there couldn't be from town, but it definitely could be from scum.

Anyways, you said that Klick's read on me felt genuine. I disagree. Can you explain your take a bit more?

Klick’s assertion that you were not trying to get anyone to townread you did not feel like scum pocketing at all. I was curious as to whether he didn’t think that your reaction test was something that comes from scum, or whether it was an emotional reaction to your posts. I didn’t get an answer.

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gonna have to disagree with seanzie here my poe is enchant -> hasche -> mala

Why do you townread me?

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mala could still be a strongarm and I don't completely discount that possibility but I do think under these circumstances enchant is the way to go today > mala

especially

because mala knew they would be the target today I really don't feel comfortable clearing them entirely

It depends on Seanzie’s claim and whether he’s town or scum, but it seems likely that scum has some compensation for the PR’s.

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last scum being a strongarm also explains why kt was left alive for a day

I don’t know if I would read into the Gamma kill too much. It’s possible that scum thought KT would be a viable mislim, or they thought that Gamma was a PR more important than KT, etc.

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anyway bringing this game back to earth i do think i townread mala on play more than i townread my 3 poe choices. the only thing is that it really feels like kitty was left alive specifically to be able to get hit by the rb and then coast like that, but

i'm sorry hold that thought. where did who say that kitty was blocking mala

Why do you townread Mala?

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Also not healing roleblocker, when last mafia alive is Red Flag or major incompetence.

So yeah, redcordinal>hascel.

…or Haschel protected someone night 2 and couldn’t protect KT?

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anyway bringing this game back to earth i do think i townread mala on play more than i townread my 3 poe choices. the only thing is that it really feels like kitty was left alive specifically to be able to get hit by the rb and then coast like that, but

i'm sorry hold that thought. where did who say that kitty was blocking mala

Why do you townread Mala?

Bc I’m way too out of my scumrange in this game

In what way?

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Enchant, can you scumcase redcardinal?

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I want to hear it in your own words.

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hm
Maybe Psychologist or something?

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more likely than t3, schadd, seanzie, or myself being scum yeah

Do you think that I wasn’t bussing Klick because of our interactions, or because you think I am independently towny?

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more likely than t3, schadd, seanzie, or myself being scum yeah

Do you think that I wasn’t bussing Klick because of our interactions, or because you think I am independently towny?

Uhh... do you believe your actions could possibly be seen as bussing Klick? .You were defending them.

Idk why I said bussing, I meant partnered with.

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ooh ooh I know this one! neighborizer :3

I mean I did have one game where I was a traitor combined neighborizer rolecop and I fakeclaimed combined neighborizer detective and got nightkilled by my own scum team

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Link.

I want to see mafia PT.

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=87005

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But yeah, I'm a neighborizer.

Modifiers?

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Seanzie do you have any words of wisdom

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Seanzie do you have any words of wisdom

Maybe.

What are they?

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Seanzie do you have any words of wisdom

Maybe.

What are they?

A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool.

VOTE: enchant

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While we’re waiting for the mod, has anyone watched any good movies lately?

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While we’re waiting for the mod, has anyone watched any good movies lately?

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Finally.

Good luck, losers.

*ASCENDS*

I’m watching Men In Black right now.

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I was going to watch Parasite, but I wasn’t sure if it is appropriate for my younger sister.

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I also watched Bodies Bodies Bodies last week.

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Watched not long ago.

I think 1-2 parts are cool, but 3 is time traveling bullshit with "obvious" twist.

I’ll see.

I wonder why schadd hammered without Seanzie claiming. I guess that will be a question for tomorrow if Enchant ends up being town.

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Oh, looks like schadd was fakeclaiming doublevoter.

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The first like 40% of EEAAO is cocaine, then it starts to make sense.

Watching Doctor Strange felt like I was watching a demonstration of all the cool CGI Marvel can do, as opposed to an actual movie with an actual coherent plot. After Endgame Marvel has gotten pretty average, except for Shang-Chi.

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Seanzie was killed on Night 4. He was a Town Weak 2-shot Neighbourizer.

Mala is clear, because Seanzie neighborized her.
In that case, VOTE: schadd

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Actually no, wait a minute

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Never mind, Mala is clear. I was thinking that if Haschel targeted Seanzie N3 and Seanzie neighborized scum!Mala, Seanzie would have been saved.

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There could be a scum Roleblocker or associated role (especially if Haschel is town), but I think it makes more sense for a scum Roleblocker to target Haschel night 3, not Seanzie.

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I protected T3 on night 1 and Seanzie on night 3.

Schadd is clear because we know he's vanilla thanks to Eiralox; I don't see the mafia having just an informed and two goons when the town has a roleblocker.

Mala is *probably* clear if KittyTacky did indeed block her like he was told to.

Oh, that’s true about schadd. Mala is clear because Seanzie said that he neighborized Mala.

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and in any case seanzie had a place to be like: hi, you should block mala. so ok i'm pretty comfortable with that part at least

i think t3 has been the odd one out for the last couple days & i plan to vote there. if anybody else is a PR at this point they should probably claim.

Why do you think that redcardinal is towny compared to me?

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PR’s: Town Roleblocker, Town Rolecop, Town Weak 2-shot Neighborizer, claimed Town Non-Consecutive Doctor
Medium role, Weak Role, Medium Role, Medium Role

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Then why are you planning to vote me instead of redcardinal…?

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PR’s: Town Roleblocker, Town Rolecop, Town Weak 2-shot Neighborizer, claimed Town Non-Consecutive Doctor
Medium role, Weak Role, Medium Role, Medium Role

I modded a game with 3 Mafia Goons and 2 Medium-Weak TPR’s, and 1 Medium PR. The reviewers said us was pretty scum sided, but they still let it pass.
Here we have 2 Medium Roles and 2 Weak Roles, which basically adds up to 3 Medium Roles, which would be slightly townsided with 3 goons. So, scum have an informed to balance it out?

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I’m a VT.

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It is very likely that we have an elimination to spare, yeah.

I think that redcardinal and Haschel are significantly townier than schadd.

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VOTE: mala
Alrighty then

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If I had a nickel for every time I hard bussed Galron on Day 1 and lost in f5, I would have two nickels. Which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.

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There is a world where we kill Mala N2 and I do wonder what would’ve happened if we had done that.

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Was really impressed by how universally townread he was, I feel like he wins this pretty much solo if he kills kitty and busses Klick?

I was very worried that without 2 scum I would put myself in a hole mechanically, which did end up happening, but I also ended up not having any towncred for voting Klick too.