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Post Post #6400 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:26 pm

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Because that's not how I play this game. I try to vote the people I think are scum.
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Post Post #6401 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:29 pm

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Never said you had to be scum and I can vibe with the idea that you just think redfire and yd are super scummy and need to die, i just don't really see why the poe order matters
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Post Post #6402 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:30 pm

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Because I don't play the game by just making a poe and not caring because I can be wrong? So I'd rather vote people I think are actually scum over people that I just think are ???

I've seen a lot of games lost because people are like oh we just flip these people and then we win and guess what the first 3 flipped arent scum and they lose.
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Post Post #6403 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:30 pm

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In post 6400, Thestatusquo wrote:Because that's not how I play this game. I try to vote the people I think are scum.
But you do think SS and mena are scum, or are they no longer in your poe?
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Post Post #6404 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:33 pm

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...Being in a POE is not the same as being scum?

It just means I am not town reading them.
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Post Post #6405 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:34 pm

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Ok
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Post Post #6406 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:34 pm

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If you put a gun to my head and ask me what color SS flips I would say green. Same with mena.

But that doesn't mean I town read them.
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Post Post #6407 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:54 pm

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In post 6350, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 6346, Frogsterking wrote:Gated refers to the even-odd night thing?
Gated means any modifier that affects when a role can be used, like odd/even night, X-shot, etc.
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Post Post #6408 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:03 pm

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Can all the Town players not voting Menalque stop dragging their knuckles and either vote them or put forth some concrete xyz case why you aren't? You're making it easier for scum to hide by refusing to do anything meaningful regarding the Menalque slot.
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Post Post #6409 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:08 pm

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This is an example of what I consider to be acceptable:
In post 6184, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 6095, Datisi wrote:i'm waiting for
(1) mena to do something ai
(2) s_s to give a read on him
I think Mena's reaction to the gambit was moderately +town (I believe I already said as much?) because he clearly expressed ignorance that his predecessor claimed. (Could be faked ignorance, but if he's scum it probably wasn't real.)
In post 6244, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 6241, Datisi wrote:ok fine - how well do you think you can read mena
I would say, better than I can read most people. I recall one game, cursed though it was, where I was pretty much the only person to (correctly) call out Mena as scum. Of course I was not in a position to convince anyone, but when am I ever?

That's honestly the main thing that's making me feel this way, so I don't know how accurate it is. But I don't think I've played with scum-Mena many other times (and I can't recall ever confidently and incorrectly scumreading him), so I guess I have an okay read rate historically.
This is an example of what I consider to be unacceptable:
In post 6358, DeasVail wrote:
In post 6356, Datisi wrote:deas buddy can i get A Readslist(tm) from you

it can be naked that's ok i just wanna see where your head is at
TOWN: Datisi, scamper, cat, Nero
town: Ausuka, Dannflor, fireisred, GuiltyLion, Menalque
Currently considering as possible scum (this is dynamic and changes depending on the mood): Ydrasse, SS, fireisred, TSQ, Frogster
In post 6359, DeasVail wrote:Just as an example, 30 minutes ago Menalque would have been in the bottom tier but I thought about it.
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Post Post #6410 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:12 pm

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I'm pretty sure fire is way likely to flip red and I'm not going to be strongarmed into voting a worse wagon.
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Post Post #6411 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:14 pm

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In post 6177, Frogsterking wrote:I mean I guess it looks kind of similar. I feel like the energy behind it is different. I have him in my solve as an edge case:

Menalque (high certainty) -> fire (moderate certainty) -> S_S (low certainty) -> Shea (low certainty) -> Dease (honorable mention)
I'm making an adjustment to my solve:

Menalque (high certainty) -> Dease (moderate certainty) -> fire (low certainty) -> S_S (low certainty) -> Shea (honorable mention)
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Post Post #6412 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:18 pm

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In post 6410, Thestatusquo wrote:I'm pretty sure fire is way likely to flip red and I'm not going to be strongarmed into voting a worse wagon.
Fire has some plausible deniability with their play because of their high neuroticism + agreeableness, neurotic people get stressed out and incriminate themselves all the time (I'm super neurotic) and agreeable people can look like bandwagoners.
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Post Post #6413 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:19 pm

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In post 6412, Frogsterking wrote:bandwagoners
Speaking of, is exactly what we need right now. Fire?
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Post Post #6414 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:22 pm

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was kinda waiting for mena to come back and talk but ig maybe it doesn't matter. sure

VOTE: mena
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Post Post #6415 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:22 pm

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In post 6414, fireisredsir wrote:was kinda waiting for mena to come back and talk but ig maybe it doesn't matter. sure

VOTE: mena
Because your nice and give people the benefit of the doubt
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Post Post #6416 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:23 pm

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Where is the mena wagon at now?
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Post Post #6417 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:24 pm

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In post 6415, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 6414, fireisredsir wrote:was kinda waiting for mena to come back and talk but ig maybe it doesn't matter. sure

VOTE: mena
Because your nice and give people the benefit of the doubt
now who's pocketing whom
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Post Post #6418 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:25 pm

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In post 6416, DeasVail wrote:Where is the mena wagon at now?
It's time for you to hop on the bus
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Post Post #6419 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:25 pm

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I think its at like 6-7.

Hard to say without vote counts.
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Post Post #6420 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:26 pm

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In post 6418, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 6416, DeasVail wrote:Where is the mena wagon at now?
It's time for you to hop on the bus
Well I might, but would prefer to know whereabouts on the bus I’d be sitting
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Post Post #6421 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:26 pm

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In post 6418, Frogsterking wrote:
In post 6416, DeasVail wrote:
Where is the mena wagon at now?
It's time for you to hop on the bus[/strike]
Wait I fucked that up.


It's at the bus stop.
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Post Post #6422 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:27 pm

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Why mena over SS, frog?
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Post Post #6423 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:28 pm

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i think it's only at 6, ausuka moved to SS
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Post Post #6424 (ISO) » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:28 pm

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Menalque (6): Frogsterking, Datisi, ydrasse, GuiltyLion, Dannflor, fireisredsir
Something_Smart (3): DeasVail, Nero Cain, Ausuka
fireisredsir (2): Menalque, Shea
Not voting (3): Cat Scratch Fever, Something_Smart, scamper
Day 3 will end in 8 days, 5 hours, 0 minutes. With 14 alive, it takes 8 to eliminate and 7 to no eliminate.

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