Datisi's Café [game over!]

[Ydrasse]

meep

[Ydrasse]

bc this game doesn't have a postcap and larges can sometimes get kinda miserable without one, if d1 starts to get close to like idk 80-100 pages i suggest we simply yeet someone

who wants to join me on this mission

we need 10 more to sign the pact

VOTE: ausuka

let's do 50

[Ydrasse]

beep

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: ausuka

anything 4 u since it's ur first one back....

[Ydrasse]

mlem

[Ydrasse]

klick town
fire town

Gwoke up no reason pos t this good night

[Ydrasse]

I vibing

[Ydrasse]

Furtive coy with reads but maybe wolf feel obligated to state those reads upfront ?

[Ydrasse]

You

[Ydrasse]

-_-

[Ydrasse]

i bored someone post

pedit Hi furtiveglance what are your reads

[Ydrasse]

i bored someone post

pedit Hi furtiveglance what are your reads

My big reads are on Klick, Mastina, Petapan and RC.

I have a smaller read on Ausuka and You.

May I beg of thee a crumb of alignment upon those reads

[Ydrasse]

I hope i’m the scumread

I’m uninterested in the guessing game though as much as it would give back regarding reads

[Ydrasse]

Eatin some cheese crackers

[Ydrasse]

I hope i’m the scumread

I’m uninterested in the guessing game though as much as it would give back regarding reads

Why uninterested? I literally made it so easy for you. Also, you can only be a LEAN, since I said you were a smaller read.

I’m existing in the moment rn on my little phone at work and would just end up saying random names probably to get the answers since i’m a cheat

and fine then >:(

[Ydrasse]

WHATEVER

the town ones are mastina klick at minimum

you probably have 1-2 mafia between me and peta

rce and ausuka fill in the blanks

[Ydrasse]

i agree on one of those reads



(;

[Ydrasse]

i meant the bakareads not reads at large

[Ydrasse]

you probably have 1-2 mafia between me and peta

oh yeah?

Furtive did in fact have 1-2 mafia between me and peta

[Ydrasse]

you probably have 1-2 mafia between me and peta

oh yeah?

Furtive did in fact have 1-2 mafia between me and peta

yeah so funny story i thought "you" was used as a generalization and not to furtive directly

ignore me (don't actually do this you'll regret it)

*blocks*

[Ydrasse]

Uncrowned are you evil

[Ydrasse]

Uncrowned are you evil

in general or in this game?

erm both... for different reasons... smile

[Ydrasse]

Uncrowned does your name have anything to do with taking the crowns from royalty... dead royalty...

[Ydrasse]

Uncrowned is going to kill me tonight.

[Ydrasse]

Wat posts am i having opinions on

[Ydrasse]

Being town is cute

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: vivax

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: uncrowned

[Ydrasse]

a lot of petty power probably

[Ydrasse]

titus calling me town from vca IS pretty weird

[Ydrasse]

Meep

[Ydrasse]

omg nooooooz *hides face behind hands* >_<

[Ydrasse]

,,,,,,,,,,,,,meep.................

[Ydrasse]

ydrasse how do you feel about your wagon

Trewly i do not care

[Ydrasse]

let me rephrase: the people on your wagon

x4 who

theres nothing of worth to be read into the votes on me tbh

[Ydrasse]

Yes m my goons question anyone who engages with me

[Ydrasse]

probs realized voting me is a futile thing

early game wagon to try and sort but i insane and not act normal to it

[Ydrasse]

Too easy

[Ydrasse]

I could put ircher on e-1

[Ydrasse]

I have that power

[Ydrasse]

s_s, furtive, klick, peta (..?), uncrowned (.....?)

i work with these as main comfy town for now

UNVOTE:

[Ydrasse]

I feel like even if ircher is wolf this wagon is bad news bears

feels super easy to jump on and push because everyone want to be smart if town and catch the slip and wolf can jump on momentum without having to do much and get credit

need make sure everyone explicitly say why they vote ircher if not just for slip than for which of posts (should be easy since few)

[Ydrasse]

im pretty sure we can just solidify that anyone voting after the slip got called out should not really be given towncred if ircher flips red

also what changed your mind on me because my posting has remained relatively the same and i'm now a somewhat (?) townread of yours

i slept and i woke up and you felt towny when i read you today

[Ydrasse]

pontificating is a scummy word but +1 the vivax read

[Ydrasse]

luke is pr ably town

[Ydrasse]

mala a little town for now

[Ydrasse]

Okay yes but do you agree or disagree with titus this game or wat

[Ydrasse]

much talk about how someone says something and not what they’re saying

[Ydrasse]

Okay yes but do you agree or disagree with titus this game or wat

[Ydrasse]

It just weird to me to jump in and defend the process of “she showing thoughts so towny” but then not care really about if those thoughts are towny

at best sets low standard for titus to wolf and get passes

feel too confident

[Ydrasse]

I sorry to burst bubble but this is me as either alignment

This time it town tho

[Ydrasse]

I sorry to burst bubble but this is me as either alignment

This time it town tho

I haven’t personally seen it from Town!Ydrasse. So yeah you can say that, but I don’t know that.

i’m astrally projecting you links to my town game now

[Ydrasse]

dropping my klick tr

[Ydrasse]

y?

643 feels Funney but don’t know why yet

[Ydrasse]

ydrasse how do you feel about your wagon

Trewly i do not care

Since when do you not care about votes on you? Or engaging with the people voting you? I just don’t remember you posting like this when we’ve played in the past. Do I have it wrong? Like why the nonchalance? I usually get irritated when I’m read wrongly and people get all stubborn about it. I remember you caring a bit. What happened? Is there anything specific to this game?

it depends

sometimes i really sensitive sometimes im not

when it early wagon with no reasoning i dont care because it will go away eventually or something shinier pop up because i very very rarely sound awkward or pressured or upset to ppl. tone game good
means less stress as both alignments

only when i more invested or trying harder do i get angery

[Ydrasse]

i think he just want to live

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: vivax

[Ydrasse]

i have no clue wat happening this game

[Ydrasse]

Oh I forgot Ydrasse existed, into the shortlist with her.

Y

[Ydrasse]

I dont understand this game's mechanic btw so whenever town figures out what best to do let me know i sheep

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: roden

im like entirely checked out but i think this wagon looks Ok idk what roden's done this game

[Ydrasse]

omg im a universal tr?

that owns

[Ydrasse]

omg im a universal tr?

that owns

[Ydrasse]

if town claim production to help later down the line to see if lie from other if you flip

[Ydrasse]

Can we all just play mountainous and be productive busy bees

[Ydrasse]

idle thought if roden flips town there’s mafia in the people who doubled down on him after he was being stubborn as an acceptable reason to kill him

[Ydrasse]

i’m universally tr and care not for petty things such as town points

[Ydrasse]

Tft yeah i heard abou that game

[Ydrasse]

titus valiantly trying to defy the drunkposting = town theory

[Ydrasse]

idle thought if roden flips town there’s mafia in the people who doubled down on him after he was being stubborn as an acceptable reason to kill him

titus valiantly trying to defy the drunkposting = town theory

Hey Ydra, is there a reason you are still on the Roden wagon?

I read like half a page of this game a day but i was probably going to move to titus Soon

[Ydrasse]

i skim roden's iso and it's like

mailman who can get messages back for free right ?

that claim is probably real ya but i don't get how alignment follows that one

[Ydrasse]

everyone point and laugh at the alt slipper

[Ydrasse]

mafia can have like 5000 kills a night regardless so you have to temper that amount of potential kp into something and i think being able to provide reasonable false positives and establish ways of pocketing/getting info/etc works well for the type of game the flips have presented to us so far

[Ydrasse]

i think about implications of vc later but lot of information did make me hmm

felt weird about saying yes i vote titus and then left off alone into silence again

will poke later

autocoreect strong

[Ydrasse]

did titus ever claim a pt because. Um . well

[Ydrasse]

I almost want to vote Titus just to do what several dead Town players have been pushing for now, so I’m not against it, but I’m curious as to what people think is going on.

I’m also actually annoyed Ausuka is dead because I was actually able to clear them based off of 712, and now almost every player I’ve felt really good about has been NK’ed (except for Ydrasse).

don’t say that too loudly or they’ll get me

[Ydrasse]

did titus ever claim a pt because. Um . well

[Ydrasse]

titus should claim if she has a neighborhood when she’s around

[Ydrasse]

Aha no reason though

[Ydrasse]

titus waiting room

[Ydrasse]

titus is lying btw

[Ydrasse]

Wait

[Ydrasse]

TITUS IS LYING BTW

[Ydrasse]

i have a role where i can check to see if people have pts(EXCEPT THE MAFIA PT) and join them if they do

titus doesn’t have any pts

[Ydrasse]

i already verified that a masonry isn’t a factional pt (:

which is the only type i can’t join (:

[Ydrasse]

like titus genuinely if all of the stuff ur saying rn is somehow true sorry but lol

[Ydrasse]

lmfaooooo

[Ydrasse]

it would be very convenient if somehow it made her go last in nar somehow dodging my ability

[Ydrasse]

if anyone has a neighborhood or anything btw let me know aha i wanna join

[Ydrasse]

i ask

[Ydrasse]

i can join if it’s made same night

[Ydrasse]

i got the result that titus had no non-fac hoods i could join and i confirmed masonry isnt factional

[Ydrasse]

also for posterity i holstered n1

[Ydrasse]

why would you

not have it

[Ydrasse]

why in the world would you be allowed to use a mason ability only if someone wasn’t visited

[Ydrasse]

titus is saying that she has a neighborhood but also it goes last because nar but she also doesn’t have it yet but but but

ya this is a fake claim imo

[Ydrasse]

why in the world would you be allowed to use a mason ability only if someone wasn’t visited

Nerf it. Can't have too broken of a setup. I love the role. Tank for days.

i’m sorry for your rand

VOTE: titus

[Ydrasse]

o ok UNVOTE:

[Ydrasse]

MASTINA ARE YOU IN A HOOD WITH TITUS

[Ydrasse]

if titus had a pt i would be aware of it and be able to join it

[Ydrasse]

ok we can ignore titus now she’s just fakeclaiming

wat going on between fire and mastina

[Ydrasse]

man i just wanna join someone’s pt

[Ydrasse]

i am so good with using prs

[Ydrasse]

what i miss about multitasking

isn’t it just one mafia shoot gun many times

[Ydrasse]

I confused on the significance of this

[Ydrasse]

ok so all we know is that titus is wolf

Ok ok

[Ydrasse]

i get told if they don’t have anything

[Ydrasse]

like explicitly Titus Has Not A Single Non Factional PT

[Ydrasse]

maybe wolf team balanced by like inverse of town

maybe they have to be more productive to actually use roles during night

[Ydrasse]

so pick between using pr or getting extra kill

[Ydrasse]

if titus wolf (yes) and there is wolf in fire/mastina it always just mastina i think based on how hard mastina defend titus after having her as a softish null for most of game

[Ydrasse]

side note i was sitting at desk twenty minutes ago and think i literally astrally
projected into a mafia pt that was s_s/titus/mastina

[Ydrasse]

It cost me everything now i am so tired

[Ydrasse]

Oops teehee townslip aha

[Ydrasse]

Primarily this one that I didn't immediately notice

oh apparently I was the only one who saw that immediately and kept quiet to see if there would be any interesting reactions.

Do you think it's within Ydrasse's scum range to fake that slip?

No i’m dumb and can only try to fake pt slips :p

[Ydrasse]

nvm I think ydrasse is town so I don't know why I'm arguing this

Yeah that’s right!!!

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: titus

go wild

[Ydrasse]

>:( i wanted my speedlim

[Ydrasse]

and yeah lol probably not

rip me i don’t have reads to share

[Ydrasse]

Just for the record btw, mastina just seems wrong to me. They’re either Town that’s off, or Scum. And I really wouldn’t execute fireisredsir here.

i think i agree w this tho

[Ydrasse]

i don’t know if there’s a way for me to get a guilty anymore sadly it was based in ike

trickery even though titus would’ve went over eventually

i just target uncrowned

[Ydrasse]

i gotta get my master strategist scummy back with this one

[Ydrasse]

i mean i can't really get another guilty lol and i was barely engaged

[Ydrasse]

my guilty was the product of the information i received and then me lying a bit but the ruse was a one and done

[Ydrasse]

yes i did but i don't wanna say what happened rn o:

[Ydrasse]

sorry i forgor about this game i here

[Ydrasse]

towm:

malakittens
andresvmb
mastina
dannflor

maybe probably towm:

klick
jjh927

something_smart:

something_smart

standing emoji:

penguinpower
uncrowned

...wolfm...:

furtiveglance
fireisredsir

[Ydrasse]

vibez

top isn't in order

[Ydrasse]

why is uncrowned town this game btw

[Ydrasse]

His case on me and Titus is "A-HA! I can use these things to push these slots as scum". Having reads that he believes are good to push, and then finding things that he believes make that push believable.

His cases as town are more "A-HA! I have found a slot that looks like scum for this".

so it's a tonal read, mostly?

I don't see the benefit in outing my exact process on a scum who's already dead.

because it looks a little fabricated considering the differences between his town page 1 vote and his scum page 1 vote are awfully minimal?

these reads feel kinda convenient

do you have any actual thoughts on: roden, mastina, titus, luke

it can wait till later if you don't wanna post big but yeah, like i said, those names you've all listed feel v convenient and i highly doubt we have all scum in the less active half of the game

VOTE: Malakittens

VOTE: Roden

cheeky L-1

VOTE: S_S

I'd made some points about Uncrowned earlier when prompted by Andres and it never really got a response, instead it got buried by all the focus on me and my role and trying to "gotcha" me. They were insistent on trying to get me to play, but once my activity and content sky rocketed they had nothing to say and instead just blankly voted me. Why ask me to do more if you had no intention of engaging with me? Why didn't they or anyone else have anything to say about my read?

What really stands out is that Uncrowned criticized my posts D1 for being too focused on mech despite only making two mech-focused posts. But then today there has been pages upon pages dedicated only to discussing mech and voting people based on mech. Yet Uncrowned has had nothing to say about it, and instead supported a wagon based on mech.

bro

if i'm not mistaken, this first part is either a bold faced lie or you just didn't see my response to you

i was the last one to respond in our 'interaction' and you said nothing and i'm pretty sure i'll be able to find it and quote it after this

also i criticised multiple d1 mech talk people because i don't think it really gets us anywhere. d2 the mech talk has been what, about claims? that's a lot more reasonable given game state and doesn't just seem like scum trying to find something to do on d1. context matters and you're ignoring it

12 is rvs and the others were you defending yourself which was also what I referenced in my original post about you

and 432 had nothing inherently wrong with it it's just you went back to referring to something about setup which I found funny

That's a simplified and not really accurate summary of those posts. You claimed all I talked about was mech, which is factually wrong. It's ok to say you just misremembered my posts.

You seemed to imply 432 had something wrong with it, you said I "proved you right" and you still seem to want to run me up. Talk to me about it.

you said this and then in post 547 i said

in my original post I said mech or defending yourself. that qualifies under both. simplified, sure. but it's what you did.

and in the callout post I said what I just said above, and then 432 mentioned setup balance as your next post. there's not really much to "run up" it literally just looked like you were avoiding giving proper reads in favour of talking about setup shit which I think is +scum

if you were at work and just catching up then there's nor really much to discuss and I will have to judge you off of what you've done since then though I will maintain the first posting to me is still +scum

maybe it's because I'm not one to care for mech talk but if the majority of your posting is still on the topic of mech (even up to 432) I'll 9 times outta 10 be more inclined to think you're scummy. does that make sense?

and then look at my very next post 548

you made no reply and didn't interact with me at all until D2

so are you just making stuff up to appear like my read on you is fake or...? because that was a poor attempt lmao

so what really happened is you just ignored my posting after attempts to "engage" with you, but now expect me to engage with you when you're in the middle of claim shit with other slots that i frankly don't care about because you obviously didn't have the intent to engage in the first place when i was giving you questions on shit that wasn't mech based, which i have repeatedly stated i don't care for

no misrepping in my neighbourhood tyvm

12 is rvs and the others were you defending yourself which was also what I referenced in my original post about you

and 432 had nothing inherently wrong with it it's just you went back to referring to something about setup which I found funny

That's a simplified and not really accurate summary of those posts. You claimed all I talked about was mech, which is factually wrong. It's ok to say you just misremembered my posts.

You seemed to imply 432 had something wrong with it, you said I "proved you right" and you still seem to want to run me up. Talk to me about it.

Wow, that's really annoying. I targeted Peta last night.

though in fairness you made zero posts between these two, though again i find this difficult to believe that you wouldn't have at least checked to catch up and my posting replying to you was just a few posts after so... yeah, why lie my guy

You’re using the NK to justify your vote, which is always suspect (it’s like you haven’t even considered that Scum make kills to confuse / frame the Town). But the single most important way you’re pointing to for identifying Scum in the game from day play conflicts directly with that vote. The fact that you’re not even acknowledging that is bizarre.

I'm voting Titus because it's a read on how she plays the game as scum. She kills threats and stays low key. I can scum read her independently of how I think the scum team played around Ircher's slip. If you think that's a scummy thought process then you're gonna have to explain why because I don't get it.

I didn’t call it Scummy I called it odd.

Imagine I said that I think Scum went out of their way to defend Ircher. And then I voted Titus. And when you asked me why, I made the NK argument you made. I would fully expect for you to ask me well, Titus actively attacked Ircher the entire time. Doesn’t that give you pause? Wouldn’t that contradict what you’re saying is the main reason to suspect someone to be Scum? That’s more where I’m coming from. Not being consistent with your thought process isn’t Scum indicative actually. At least I don’t think so.

The thing is that I wouldn't question you on that. I don't think it's odd to have conflicting scum reads, or have a specific scum read as an exception to how one thinks scum would play.

And I figured you saw the thought process as scummy because you were voting me. I don't think you voted me just because you think I'm odd.

I was trying to put a vote down based on what someone who seems to have a better grasp on the game is voting (I think mastina is Town?). I haven’t actually myself figured out who I think is most likely to be Scum.

I haven’t been historically able to read Titus properly. I think your points aren’t totally silly. I think if the Scum had two shots, shooting petapan who seemed to have a magnifying glass aimed at Titus makes a lot of sense.

Also, what do you make of 468 through 470 from Uncrowned? This is why I think it’s possible they’re Scum (if I had to summarize it).

I think it's a little out of place for them to suggest that because Ircher's wagon didn't hit a lull that it implies it wasn't a mis-elim wagon, when there wasn't really a chance for it to hit a lull in the first place. The focus on the Ydrasse wagon also feels weird, it was obvious the votes were just leftover from RVS. The vote on me is just kind of whatever though, like I thought it was weird when it happened since they seemed confident that Ircher was scum, and pressuring a low activity player is baseline scum play. But they aren't on my radar atm.

is this the attempt to engage with me after being prodded by andre that you're talking about? because this is the only other thing i can possibly thing of, and this isn't asking anything of me at all

"yeah guys i swear i really prodded uncrowned but he's just refusing to interact with me now that i'm actually talking to him" lol this can't be a serious thing you're trying to push rn

i also asked andre to elaborate on those posts and he's yet to say anything i believe so uhh, must be scum too i guess.

VOTE: Roden

i find it too hard to believe he's not blatantly lying about his intentions with me. good elim let's go squad

literally in the post you suggest you wanted to interact with me you also say "but they're (me) aren't on my radar atm."

you don't ask me a direct question

you're just making comments about a post another player made in response to them, with plenty of passive, uncombative language ("a little out of place", "feels weird", "their vote on me is just kind of whatever though") like you don't actually care about getting a read on me at all outside of replying to andre's query about me

and i was apparently supposed to make a full engagement out of that with you so we could really solve each others alignments, huh?

this is fake solving attempts if i've ever seen it ngl

Roden [8]: mastina, Andresvmb, Klick, Malakittens, Ydrasse, Titus, Uncrowned, PenguinPower
Titus [5]: Roden, Lukewarm, Ausuka, Dannflor, Vivax
Malakittens [1]: furtiveglance
Dannflor [1]: fireisredsir

not voting [2]: jjh927, Something_Smart

green flip would have me looking in {Mastina, Andre, Kilck, Mala, Ydrasse} with preference being: Mala, Andre, Mastina, Ydrasse, Klick

red flip would have me looking in (Luke, Fire} with preference being Luke

i think either flip i still independently have a scumread on S_S

i am unsure of where i stand on furtive, ausuka, yourself, jjh

i independently TR Vivax, PP and Titus so ya

like idk i’m at this progress on roden and the ending conclusions seem pretty... not it lol

[Ydrasse]

and like i kinda feel uncrowned doesn’t care at all about what’s happening today or really yesterday either

[Ydrasse]

just is

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: fireisredsir[/vote]

[Ydrasse]

ugh

VOTE: fireisredsir

[Ydrasse]

mmmm

my heart isn’t in furtive wolf but like my brain is there

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: furtiveglance

Okay

[Ydrasse]

is this mala’s mafia meta

like what’s the endgame goal here for her team ig

[Ydrasse]

i feel like the day has stagnated and we should probably consolidate now so it doesn’t get bogged down with apathy

[Ydrasse]

inherently i don’t think mala is a wolf but i don’t have strong evidence against it either

i still believe fire or furtive could be good votes as well. i will hear out any other options

[Ydrasse]

i guess i would just be baffled if mala made 333 as mafia lol

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: malakittens

[Ydrasse]

furtiveglance
Vivax
fireisredsir
Lukewarm
Malakittens
PenguinPower
Ausuka
Andresvmb
Uncrowned

Ydrasse
jjh927
Titus
mastina
Roden

RCEnigma
Something_Smart

Merged the two middle sections, I think this better represents my current thoughts

VOTE: Something_Smart
I think he's been consistently scummy and isn't quite sure what to do in the current gamestate other than possibly eatch town implode

Titus isn't scum

furtiveglance
Vivax
PenguinPower
fireisredsir
Malakittens
Ausuka
Andresvmb
Uncrowned
Titus

Lukewarm
Ydrasse
mastina
jjh927
Something_Smart

Roden
Dannflor

wtf did titus do between these posts to not be wolf

[Ydrasse]

titus valiantly trying to defy the drunkposting = town theory

i’m funny sometimes

[Ydrasse]

actually i think danns in the right world lol VOTE: andres

i skimmed his iso for titus and it feels like he’s spent the entire game right on the verge of voting her but made an excuse every single time to not

[Ydrasse]

like he was timid about it but then when my stuff happened he’s leading the charge ya know

[Ydrasse]

day one was a blight upon this game

VOTE: klick

i’m very ! at klick like, taking all of the people now alive here out of his limpool and leaving like mostly town and stuff to be his elim. and also titus was always at the edge of his reads and then got moved up and blah blah

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: andres
m?

[Ydrasse]

m!!!

[Ydrasse]

what felt genuine to you

[Ydrasse]

lol

[Ydrasse]

i looked away for two minutes!!

L

[Ydrasse]

!!!!three more votes everyone!!!!

[Ydrasse]

squints

[Ydrasse]

Who do u think it is again

[Ydrasse]

Im going to be honest i feel like most people in this game have like Bad associatives with titus and im praying that we end up putting the wagon thru on a wolf

also i just want a flip atp i getting too antsy

UNVOTE:

[Ydrasse]

nd i dont put that much stock in like meta play either tbf
some vibes yes but generally i just kinda go Watever at meta because things can always change

[Ydrasse]

Dann said it smarter than me

[Ydrasse]

i’m
going to be blunt

i feel like roles don’t matter anymore unless you can get either a confirmed guilty on someone surefire or you can sure fire clear yourself other than that we should just all be like. keeping power over what it needs to be for 1 kill

[Ydrasse]

like it’s too late today for a mass claim but like why don’t we just play this as mountainous lol

[Ydrasse]

VOTE: malakittens

just lol if malakittens tmi’d that early

[Ydrasse]

i carry gg