Micro 1061: If Trees Could Scream [Game Over]

[Don Draper x Mistress]

ENT SUPREMACY.

VOTE: Entchant

-Mistress

[Don Draper x Mistress]

ONLY

YOU

CAN PREVENT FOREST FIRES

Is this a Pooky alt?

~Nancy

[Don Draper x Mistress]

VOTE: Don Draper

I expect more.

VOTE: Titus

Day literally just started and you yourself noted the stump mechanic, so dislike your reasoning.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Wagons are a good way. How about a Don Draper one?

Are you the other arsonist?

Titus and Ircher are my current guess for scum.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Wagons are a good way. How about a Don Draper one?

Are you the other arsonist?

Titus and Ircher are my current guess for scum.

Page 2 gamesolve, slacking much?

Nope, I think Titus’s sr on me doesn’t make a lot of sense. And Ircher wanting to wagon me for pretty much no reason is hella scummy. If at least one of them isn’t an arsonist pushing us, I’ll be shocked.

They’re really the only ones currently being scummy. No one else is pinging me, that’s why it’s a page 2 solve.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Is it bad that I almost want to get axed so I csn say the game stumped me?

VOTE: Herta[/vote[

This post is also suspicious. If you’re actually a tree, you don’t go out of your way to imply that because you don’t want to out who could possibly be firefighter unless you’re getting run up.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I see that it is.
Is there some history between you two where Ircher frequently goes after you as scum?

There isn’t but suggesting a wagon on me for literally no reason is hella scummy don’t you think?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

VOTE: Don Draper

I expect more.

VOTE: Titus

Day literally just started and you yourself noted the stump mechanic, so dislike your reasoning.

What does the stump mechanic have to deal with my expectations for you? Even now, you aren't doing much. Your two scumreads happen to be the two people voting you.

What do you expect me to be doing at this early stage ib the game and how is it in anyway unusual for me to be suss on anyone who either votes or advocates wagonong me for no good reason? This makes me even more confident on this read because you know there is nothing unusual about my reaction.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Is it bad that I almost want to get axed so I csn say the game stumped me?

VOTE: Herta[/vote[

This post is also suspicious. If you’re actually a tree, you don’t go out of your way to imply that because you don’t want to out who could possibly be firefighter unless you’re getting run up.

VOTE: Don Draper

I expect more.

VOTE: Titus

Day literally just started and you yourself noted the stump mechanic, so dislike your reasoning.

What does the stump mechanic have to deal with my expectations for you? Even now, you aren't doing much. Your two scumreads happen to be the two people voting you.

I find you both invoking the stump mechanic and now asking me how it’s a possible factor in this game kind of disingenuous if not a possibility attempt at role fishing.

I am doing plenty for this stage of the game and you pushing me on that us extremely suspicious.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Yeah Nancy's scum. Nancy's aware of the mechanic and tries to accuse me of rolefishing.

I'll just leave this vote here and suppose the partner is likely one of the Ircher voters for now.

I’m never unvoting you in this game. I don’t believe town!you has this ubershitty read on me here.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

BE ALERT! VOTE: DON DRAPER EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED. BE FIRE SAFE.

bad vote Smokey.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

BE ALERT! VOTE: DON DRAPER EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED. BE FIRE SAFE.

bad vote Smokey.

I definitely believe you’re not Pooky now because he actually has reads that are good.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

VOTE: Don Draper

I expect more.

VOTE: Titus

Day literally just started and you yourself noted the stump mechanic, so dislike your reasoning.

What does the stump mechanic have to deal with my expectations for you? Even now, you aren't doing much. Your two scumreads happen to be the two people voting you.

What do you expect me to be doing at this early stage ib the game and how is it in anyway unusual for me to be suss on anyone who either votes or advocates wagonong me for no good reason? This makes me even more confident on this read because you know there is nothing unusual about my reaction.

I feel like there's always one player each game who hard OMGUSes an RVS vote, so I don't think your reaction is super scummy, but I also just don't really get the perspective.

If someone suggested wagoning someone else would you still hate it or is it just because it's you?

If there’s a good reason for it, then it’s obviously different but I’m way more confident on Titus being scum here because town!her is never this terrible at reading me. Maybe she’s tunnelling me because I caught her in Double Agency? I don’t know but I really do think she’s very likely scum here, because her pushing me here for God only knows what reason makes absolutely no sense. Only thing that’s giving me any pause at all is that she’s not pocketing me instead and preferring to nk me but that’s why I think it looks more like possible role fishing to me because she’s probably counting on that to happen if she can get enough votes on me. I think she’s trying to find out if I’m a tree or firefighter, which is why she’s refusing to try to reacess me in the slightest.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

If not Draper, how about Porkens?

Why is Porkens scum?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

VOTE: Don Draper

I expect more.

VOTE: Don Draper

I expect more.

VOTE: Titus

Day literally just started and you yourself noted the stump mechanic, so dislike your reasoning.

What does the stump mechanic have to deal with my expectations for you? Even now, you aren't doing much. Your two scumreads happen to be the two people voting you.

Both of these posts are just simply unbelievable and scummy. Titus’ sole reasoning is I’m not doing enough. I call bullshit,

[Don Draper x Mistress]

BE ALERT! VOTE: DON DRAPER EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED. BE FIRE SAFE.

bad vote Smokey.

OKAY. WHO IS THE PARTNER TO TITUS IF THEY ARE ARSONIST? UNVOTE: DON DRAPE

I don’t know. I’m not a fan of Ircher but both of them seems too easy but I think Titus’ post about the stump thing is extremely antitown at best. You don’t want to hint you’re a tree if you’re an actual tree and I’m not doing enough is just beyond lame. Why it’s scummy is because Titus initially tries to hint at her being a tree but then says she sr me for understanding the mechanic and accusing her of rolefishing because that’s what it looks like to me. And why wouldn’t I understand this mechanic? I’ve played this game before also as town but under a different account.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

BE ALERT! VOTE: DON DRAPER EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED. BE FIRE SAFE.

Nooooo why back off the e-1? That was good pressure stride

I’m not voting anywhere but Titus because I don’t believe she has this bad a take as town. I also think her post about being stumped is hella suspicious too.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Is it bad that I almost want to get axed so I csn say the game stumped me?

VOTE: Herta[/vote[

VOTE: Herta

Also why this vote? No explanation whatsoever?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I’m not a fan of Ircher but both of them seems too easy but I think Titus’ post about the stump thing is extremely antitown at best.

DO YOU HAVE DETAILED KNOWLEDGE OF THE IRCHER TREE? IS THIS ONE LIKELY TO CONTAIN AN ARSONIST?

I’m voting my strongest scumread, so she’s currently my best guess at being arsonist and I do think she’s trying to rolefish me.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I think posterbear is town.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Herta, Porkens, Titus and Vanderscamp has 2 Arsonists.

Interesting. I could see arsonist!Titus possible naked voting a buddy like that but I’d want to heat more. What do you dislike about Vanderscamp?

He’s obviously incorrect to characterize Titus’ vote on me as rvs but I think Titus is extremely likely to be scum because she tends to be a lot less tunnelled as town, especially this early. She pushed a town pr really hard in some game where she was scum in a game with town!Math, so this is more likely than not, her scum meta here.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Is it bad that I almost want to get axed so I csn say the game stumped me?

VOTE: Herta[/vote[

Even if she never made such a ridiculous vote on me, I would still find this post hella suss. Anyone who’s an actual tree doesn’t want to go out of their way to hint at that because they shouldn’t want to help scum figure out who the firefighter is, so I find this post independently scummy.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Vanderscamp is just being reasonable and asking questions, not really towny or scummy, but the vote on Ircher looked a bit quick to me, I don't think Ircher is an Arsonist

Ircher frequently gets miselimmed and if I’m right about Titus, he doesn’t look like a buddy based off her post saying an Ircher voter is my buddy.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Yeah Nancy's scum. Nancy's aware of the mechanic and tries to accuse me of rolefishing.

I'll just leave this vote here and

suppose the partner is likely one of the Ircher voters for now

.

They don’t look aligned from this.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

BE ALERT! VOTE: DON DRAPER EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED. BE FIRE SAFE.

Nooooo why back off the e-1? That was good pressure stride

SO DOES THIS POST MAKE PORKENS TREE GOOD OR BAD?

I can’t say, I’m currently nullreading them but I don’t like Ircher being at E-1. In SS’ game, a player was put to e-1 and self-hammered on d1, they were town. Early day 1 flashwagons more than not tend to be town. I don’t see any reason to rush the vote regardless.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Vanderscamp is just being reasonable and asking questions, not really towny or scummy, but the vote on Ircher looked a bit quick to me, I don't think Ircher is an Arsonist

DOES THAT FENCE HURT?

No, it doesn't. Could go either way = into the poe you go. Makes sense to me.

I think furtive is town.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

BE ALERT! VOTE: DON DRAPER EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED. BE FIRE SAFE.

bad vote Smokey.

I definitely believe you’re not Pooky now because he actually has reads that are good.

What do you think you've done that should make anyone get a read on you?

My point is that Pooky’s very good at reading me.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Herta, Porkens, Titus and Vanderscamp has 2 Arsonists.

Interesting. I could see arsonist!Titus possible naked voting a buddy like that but I’d want to heat more. What do you dislike about Vanderscamp?

He’s obviously incorrect to characterize Titus’ vote on me as rvs but I think Titus is extremely likely to be scum because she tends to be a lot less tunnelled as town, especially this early. She pushed a town pr really hard in some game where she was scum in a game with town!Math, so this is more likely than not, her scum meta here.

Yeah I think I was conflating Ircher's comment on you which you also responded negatively to.
In my mind it's fairly similar, it's more the sentiment of hard omgusing someone super early and creating this death tunnel which I don't find super productive.

I didn’t like him initially advocating wagonning me but I don’t know anymore. As I already explained from Titus’ post, they don’t look aligned.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Vanderscamp is just being reasonable and asking questions, not really towny or scummy, but the vote on Ircher looked a bit quick to me, I don't think Ircher is an Arsonist

Why not?
I can buy not agreeing with me but I can't imagine why anyone would have a town read there. I think Ircher is easily the scummiest person in the thread atm for seeing what Don Draper was doing to anyone who expressed any kind of suspicion on them at all and then just backing out.
To me that implies the wagon was less important to Ircher than how they are perceived in thread.

Ircher has some familiarity with my meta, so I’m currently on the fence about that and who exactly is “anyone”? Ircher only advocated wagonnong me after Titus made that ridiculous vote on me. One player /= ANYONE.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Uhh page 2 and Nancy already made our slot obv-town

What's up folk

Down to vote obvArsonist Ircher.

-Mistress

[Don Draper x Mistress]

ubershitty read

Just a small reminder to avoid using this sort of language too often. I understand it happens every now and then.

Sorry I had some more creative descriptors like how scummy it was that I hadn’t yet built any schools for the underprivileged in third world countries by page 2 but noted.

~Nancy obviously

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Vanderscamp is just being reasonable and asking questions, not really towny or scummy, but the vote on Ircher looked a bit quick to me, I don't think Ircher is an Arsonist

Why not?
I can buy not agreeing with me but I can't imagine why anyone would have a town read there. I think Ircher is easily the scummiest person in the thread atm for seeing what Don Draper was doing to anyone who expressed any kind of suspicion on them at all and then just backing out.
To me that implies the wagon was less important to Ircher than how they are perceived in thread.

Ircher has some familiarity with my meta, so I’m currently on the fence about that and who exactly is “anyone”? Ircher only advocated wagonnong me after Titus made that ridiculous vote on me. One player /= ANYONE.

When Ircher talked about doing a different wagon you had called the two people who put any pressure on you at all the scum team, for the reason that they had put pressure on you.

If Titus flipped scum right now I'd think the interaction makes Ircher look slightly better but I don't think it's obvious.

I thought both reactions looked scummy to me: Titus voting me for not doing enough by page freaking 2 and Ircher for apparently no reason whatsoever, advocating wagoning us and I still think this. I no longer think they look aligned like I’ve said recently.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

BE ALERT! VOTE: DON DRAPER EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED. BE FIRE SAFE.

bad vote Smokey.

I definitely believe you’re not Pooky now because he actually has reads that are good.

What do you think you've done that should make anyone get a read on you?

My point is that Pooky’s very good at reading me.

So what have you done that you think Pooky should read you correctly for?

It’s a meta read.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Oh no, i can't use swearing words.

0/10, failure of game.

Spoiler:

*covers Enchant’s impressionable ears*

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Is it bad that I almost want to get axed so I csn say the game stumped me?

VOTE: Herta[/vote[

Even if she never made such a ridiculous vote on me, I would still find this post hella suss. Anyone who’s an actual tree doesn’t want to go out of their way to hint at that because they shouldn’t want to help scum figure out who the firefighter is, so I find this post independently scummy.

This post is a reason Nancy's scum. She automatically believes that I am automatically telling the truth or scum.

She also implies an RVS vote needs a reason. Nancy stretching so hard she should start a gym.

It’s seriously scummy to hint you’re a tree in this setup. It’s the combination of both. It’s not ____ RVS. RVS is nonsensical votes like DD was an adulterer on Mad Man but you phrased it very clearly NOT like one, so I would thank you to stop insulting my intelligence with this.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I think Titus is scummier than Don and they're pretty clearly not together. But I could def see this as town vs town

Yeah, Vanderscamp is the partner.

Sign seal deliver.

Willing to do either today.

Oh but what happened to all the schools in Africa I have yet to build?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Nancy joke? How? Where? Punchline?

Your read on us. *mic drop*

[Don Draper x Mistress]

SNIFF SNIFF

VOTE: ENCHANT

SMELL GASOLINE HERE

Enchant is often a hard slot to parse. He’s currently a null for me.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

BE ALERT! VOTE: DON DRAPER EXPECT THE UNEXPECTED. BE FIRE SAFE.

Nooooo why back off the e-1? That was good pressure stride

SO DOES THIS POST MAKE PORKENS TREE GOOD OR BAD?

I can’t say, I’m currently nullreading them but I don’t like Ircher being at E-1. In SS’ game, a player was put to e-1 and self-hammered on d1, they were town. Early day 1 flashwagons more than not tend to be town. I don’t see any reason to rush the vote regardless.

I THINK AN ARSONIST MAY CHOOSE TO HIDE AS A NULLTREE. I THINK ENCHANT AND PORKENS NEED TO TAKE BETTER CARE OF OUR FOREST.

I AM PROBABLY 50‰ ACCURATE IN PORKENS - ENCHANT.

. I CAN WAIT FOR A THIRD READ TO TRY FOR 66% AND THEN YOU CAN PICK, OR YOU CAN PICK 1 OF THESE 2 NOW. I HAVE NO PREFERENCE.

Herta, Porkens, Titus and Vanderscamp has 2 Arsonists.

I'll give you Vanderscamp as possible scum here. Hard to explain but I don't like their posturing and they were on the fast Ircher wagon. Feels like they want anyone and are floating.

ABC OF SAFETY: ALWAYS BE CAUTIOUS!

I THOUGHT THIS TOO UNTIL I STARED AT THEIR ISO FOR LIKE 20 MINUTES.

If there’s a world where Titus is actually moonlogicy tunnelled town here. then I probably wouldn’t trust their reads in much. I don’t really have an opinion on Vanderscamp yet. I previously played with him in Koba’s neighbour game. Yes, I’m Loki.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Uhh page 2 and Nancy already made our slot obv-town

What's up folk

Down to vote obvArsonist Ircher.

-Mistress

I guess it’s possible? Do you really think Titus can be this terrible at reading me?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

1.02

Votecount 1.03

Ircher (2):

Vanderscamp, Herta.

Don Draper x Mistress (2):

Ircher, Titus.

Titus (2):

Enchant, Don Draper x Mistress.

Porkens (1):

SCRRRDBEAR.

Enchant (1):

Porkens.

Not Voting (1):

furtiveglance.

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to axe someone.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-10-09 11:55:00).

Mod notes

My pagetop ;_;

Flavour

Arsonist #1 didn't wear adequate hiking shoes today and twisted their ankle.

Is this accurate? I thought Ircher had changed his vote?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Remind me, why Firefighter should't claim D1 in this setup.

Because it’s antitown af. It’s the same reason no tress should out they’re trees. Scum wants to kill the firefighter obviously.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Uhh page 2 and Nancy already made our slot obv-town

What's up folk

Down to vote obvArsonist Ircher.

-Mistress

Yeah, no and no.

What's your read on me?

I told Auro in discord I think you’re scum. He hasn’t responded but obviously he thinks it’s Ircher. I have no clue.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I'M OKAY WITH ELIMINATING PORKENS IF WE PREFER TO GO FAST

I prefer we not rush the day.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I think smooky is right: lurkers and fluffed. Enchant an herta are my picks. VOTE: enchant

I think these reads are ubergritty

lmfaoooo

[Don Draper x Mistress]

HEY MISTRESS DO YOU WANT TO DOGPILE ON VANDER? I AM RUNNING OUT OF SUSPECTS. IM DOWN TO VANDER AND PORKENS.

Vanderscamp doesn’t sound really completely different here than in the neighbour game. He also gave me __ in that for omgussing nearly every player who sr me. I would really like to discuss with Auro his Ircher read before I do anything. I’m still not convinced that Titus is this bad at reading me.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I feel like scrrrd bear is bullying their way to a lim on someone regardless of who it is.

Well, there’s no reason to rush this vote. I still haven’t made up my mind on Ircher. I honestly can’t tell if he’s a miselim or arsonist at this point, so I’d prefer to wait until I have at least some clarity on that.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I think Titus is scummier than Don and they're pretty clearly not together. But I could def see this as town vs town

Yeah, Vanderscamp is the partner.

Sign seal deliver.

Willing to do either today.

Oh but what happened to all the schools in Africa I have yet to build?

You are too busy lighting buildings on fire.

Also, if you took 11 as a serious claim or Huerta vote as non RVS lol. Those "reasons" were fabricated after I FoSed you. We all know you respond in real time.

Okay, good with keeping my vote on you then.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

If there’s a world where Titus is actually moonlogicy tunnelled town here. then I probably wouldn’t trust their reads in much. I don’t really have an opinion on Vanderscamp yet. I previously played with him in Koba’s neighbour game. Yes, I’m Loki.

I THINK NOT HAVING AN OPINION MIGHT BE THE KIND OF TREE THE ARSONIST APPEARS TO BE

Idk maybe? But he did give me s__t in that game and he also eventually came to tr me in that too. I think scum is more likely to have an agenda.

I think it should be extremely obvious to Titus that we’re town here, so I don’t tr her deathtunnel on us. I’m staying on Titus unless I think another slot is actually scummier and rn, I don’t see it.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

HEY MISTRESS DO YOU WANT TO DOGPILE ON VANDER? I AM RUNNING OUT OF SUSPECTS. IM DOWN TO VANDER AND PORKENS.

I thought you wanted Porkens.....explain why you now prefer Vander

I DON'T PREFER EITHER I SUSPECT BOTH NOW THROUGH POE. TITUS IS DOWN FOR VANDER SO I ASK DON X MISTRESS BECAUSE IF BOTH WANT THEN IT'S EASIER TO PUSH THROUGH.

I don’t trust Titus’ reads whatever she actually is in this game, so she’s probably the very last player I’d confidently sheep here on anything.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

HEY MISTRESS DO YOU WANT TO DOGPILE ON VANDER? I AM RUNNING OUT OF SUSPECTS. IM DOWN TO VANDER AND PORKENS.

I thought you wanted Porkens.....explain why you now prefer Vander

I DON'T PREFER EITHER I SUSPECT BOTH NOW THROUGH POE. TITUS IS DOWN FOR VANDER SO I ASK DON X MISTRESS BECAUSE IF BOTH WANT THEN IT'S EASIER TO PUSH THROUGH.

Titus is sus though. Don't you agree that Enchant/Herta are bad scumreads?

I agree. I’m null on Enchant and slightly townleaning Herta.

Yeah, town!Titus is usually not deathtunnelling anyone on d1. And her continuing to push me here is hella suss. I’m not moving my vote. When a player who you know is extremely familiar with your meta, who is also reasonably good at reading you, is deathtunnelling you for whack reasons, it’s a humongous red flag to me. She is not even trying to make even a good faith effort here to try and solve me. I really don’t think this is town!Titus here.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

He also gave me __ in that for omgussing nearly every player who sr me.

MAYBE THIS IS A CLUE

???

How so, he had no way to know I’m Loki until I actually outed it.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I assumed Auro would be Don and Nancy Mistress, just a random thought

When we initially created this account we switched gender roles for the lulz. Since the show is long now off the air, I abandoned the schtick but if Auro wants to sign all of his posts as “Mistress”, I'm not going to complain about it.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I think scum is more likely to have an agenda.

MY OPINION IS THAT VANDER HAS AN AGENDA IN THIS GAME, THEY ARE JUST TRYING TO HIDE IT. I BELIEVE PORKENS-VANDER IS AT LEAST 50%.

PEDIT:

I NOT SHEEP, I LISTEN. I HAVE POE LOCKDOWN ON PORKENS AND VANDER.

I haven’t played with Vanders!scum but he did this in that neighbour game. It depends on what Ircher actually is here, because I don’t see either Porkens or Vanderscamp and Ircher likely being aligned.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

If not Draper, how about Porkens?

Well Draper is making this big fuss and all, so.......

It's not, but it's also early. There is merit in looking elsewhere.

Why are you still voting us then?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I currently still find Titus and Ircher to be the scummiest but more confident on Titus. I think town!Titus would have at least be expressing some doubt in her scumread of us by now. Her being this adamant despite having played numerous games with me by now is greatly concerning. My tin foil theory is still that Titus is trying to rolefish me because she knows I’m extremely difficult to miselim.

Titus not expressing even the slightest doubt on our alignment is highly scum indicative for her wrt scumreads.

@Titus, who are you even townreading in this game? Why is Ircher town, because I’m assuming he is your only current tr?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Just spoke with Auro in discord and his two top srs are Titus and Ircher. Since Auro and me don’t tend to mindmeld very often, this is a very reassuring sign.

If it actually does turn out to be exactly Titus/Ircher, I want bragging rights.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Actually if I’m right about Titus, Enchant’s vote on her would be town indicative for him because he usually jumps on players who push his buddies, so I oppose Enchant wagon.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Yup. Hydra no dissonant reads. Only wants a prior wagoned slot and the player who solved the game.

I tr everyone but you Vander and Huerta. Porkens and scr are weak trs though.

In the uber rare event the hydra is town, that tells me plenty about votes today.

I find it extremely difficult to believe we’re wrong on you with this bad a take, because I would think it would be extremely obvious to town!you by now that we are, so this post doesn’t change anything for me at all.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Actually if I’m right about Titus, Enchant’s vote on her would be town indicative for him because he usually jumps on players who push his buddies, so I oppose Enchant wagon.

What are your reads if I am town?

And if you persist in the charade?

Both you and Ircher don’t look great to me. He hasn’t done any solving at all, so if I’m wrong on you, probably vote there.

What “charade”?

Why is Vanderscamp and especially Herta scum? I don’t see it? Why does scum!Vanders say we’re tvt? And what do you dislike so much about Herta’s posting?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Zero questions. Zero analysis. Just tears.

You’re not doing yourselves any favours whatsoever with posts like these. There’s no freaking way you actually think this.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I didn't say Huerta was scum. I doubt they are. I just don't have enough to declare a townread yet.

Vander is poking around the sidelines. His post on you v me was very bad. He didn't say we were t v t. He said it was possible. His post was designed to flip me first before flipping you. It made it clear he really doesn't want to flip you, yet he doesn't want to call you town.

The charade is pushing me as scum.

You STILL have no analysis. No thought process beyond someone voting you is scum.

If you actually believe this and are actually not bsing me, then you’re clearly not reading. And where’s YOUR analysis on us? I’m still waiting.

If we’re actually wrong on you, you thus far have given me no reason to think so and you continuing to insist we’re scum when if anyone I would expect to be correctly reading us here is YOU, is not doing anything to change my mind.

I know you read me wrong in Anything uPick but I attributed that to Cheeky but here you’re actually reading ME wrong and you haven’t done that in like forever.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I didn't say Huerta was scum. I doubt they are. I just don't have enough to declare a townread yet.

Vander is poking around the sidelines. His post on you v me was very bad. He didn't say we were t v t. He said it was possible. His post was designed to flip me first before flipping you. It made it clear he really doesn't want to flip you, yet he doesn't want to call you town.

The charade is pushing me as scum.

You STILL have no analysis. No thought process beyond someone voting you is scum.

If you actually believe this and are actually not bsing me, then you’re clearly not reading. And where’s YOUR analysis on us? I’m still waiting.

If we’re actually wrong on you, you thus far have given me no reason to think so and you continuing to insist we’re scum when if anyone I would expect to be correctly reading us here is YOU, is not doing anything to change my mind.

I know you read me wrong in Anything uPick but I attributed that to Cheeky but here you’re actually reading ME wrong and you haven’t done that in like forever.

I have detailed almost every post with a reach out and my expectations if you were town, only to get shot down each time. When I suspect town!Nancy, town!Nancy engages on my reads. Town!Nancy does more than OMGUS.

Despite me putting out multiple reasoned reads, I get zero questions or reasoned reads from you.

Then you’re not reading

. I honestly can’t tell anymore if you’re seriously this tunnelled you are missing the obvious or you’re scum but I know what you’re saying isn’t true but what I’m not sure is if you actually believe what you’re saying or not. I don’t agree with your reads especially the one on me obviously, so I don’t even understand what you’re talking about anymore. I’m telling you I’m town here. Whether or not you choose to believe that or not is no longer my concern. I feel like engaging with you any further would be about as productive as watching pain dry because you literally aren’t listening to anything I’m saying and everyone else in the thread can see what you’re saying about me is wrong, so you’re either not reading my posts or you’re scum because I don’t understand why you keep saying the things you are otherwise?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

What I mean is, I'm not moving, and I encourage my townreads ENTchant and Don Draper x Mistrees to join on Porkens. Get em while they aren't here to defend!

I’m not rushing my vote no matter who it’s on but Porkens isn’t a terrible vote. I still don’t understand why Titus but especially Ircher is town?

I’m going to stay where I am for the time being until I find a better vote. Porkens could possibly be scum but I don’t think they’re aligned with Ircher and until I get a more confident read there, I’ll wait.

It’s definitely a much better vote than Enchant, Vanders or Herta, that’s for damn sure.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

If not Draper, how about Porkens?

Well Draper is making this big fuss and all, so.......

It's not, but it's also early. There is merit in looking elsewhere.

Why are you still voting us then?

I didn't want to kill wagon momentum. It was more of a "if you rather" kind of thing. I could move now, but I don't really have a place to go with it, so....

I thought both reactions looked scummy to me: Titus voting me for not doing enough by page freaking 2 and Ircher for apparently no reason whatsoever, advocating wagoning us and I still think this. I no longer think they look aligned like I’ve said recently.

Look, it was early game. I advocated for wagoning you all because I was already voting there. If I started the game voting Titus instead for instance, I would've advocated there instead.

Didn't read too much today as I had a long work day; I just searched for my username to see if anything pressing came up.

This isn’t how you typically play in any game I’ve ever seen you in. Why aren’t you doing more to try to solve?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

HEY MISTRESS DO YOU WANT TO DOGPILE ON VANDER? I AM RUNNING OUT OF SUSPECTS. IM DOWN TO VANDER AND PORKENS.

Vanderscamp doesn’t sound really completely different here than in the neighbour game. He also gave me __ in that for omgussing nearly every player who sr me. I would really like to discuss with Auro his Ircher read before I do anything. I’m still not convinced that Titus is this bad at reading me.

Were we both town in that game?

I think you're probably the towniest person in the thread but if I really did give you shit for OMGUSing in that game and you were town there then that makes you even townier.

Yes we were.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Eh.
Titus being unreasonable on level is kind Town!Titus as i found when i was maf in game with her twice. Most infamously, she tried to sell me that 3+1=3, and trying to prove otherwise labeled me as mafia for her. And yes, it was complete infuriating experience, which i hate (but it's mostly knowing Titus acts like that as town which raged me).

Not surprising i just voted and won't give a fuck about every thing Titus says, to save my last sanity, but i don't mind if we vote someone else. I won't gonna cry if Titus get decapitated though.
Basically "Nah"

You understand my frustration then because pretty much nothing I say is getting through to her. I don’t know how to read Ircher but I don’t like that he isn’t trying to solve. I don’t know wtf Porkens is doing.

So, if I were to pivot, probably looking at Ircher, Porkens for now.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

VOTE: Bear

If we aren't limming the whining player, then let's go after the sheep stirring up drama and sneaking his vote.

If this is referring to me, the “whining” player, I’m going to very respectfully ask you to not engage in personal attacks, especially since you have refused to engage with any of my reasoning. I think it’s possible we have have possibly have a difference of opinion wrt to what an RVS vote is supposed to look like. I not too recently in a game received 3 votes based on activity in Turing test: 2 town/1 scum, so I do tend to either omguss activity votes or get pissed off. If that was actually a non-serious vote then maybe we misunderstood each other.

I did not interpret is as an RVS vote. I thought you were seriously sr me for not doing enough to obvtown and that’s why I mocked your read on me. The fact that Vanders also interpreted your vote as an RVS vote caused me to question this.

So did I in fact misinterpret an RVS vote as serious? Because that might be at the root of all of this. I am pretty much guaranteed to interpret anything that looks like a push based on my activity as scum indicative but if I misconstrued it, then maybe I jumped to some wrong conclusions.

I also was suss on the whole tree thing as well but it was the combo mostly. At any rate, I would greatly appreciate checking your attitude towards me, thanks.

~Nancy

[Don Draper x Mistress]

UNVOTE:

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Scum will favor lurker pushes here. Lurkers are more likely to give up if miseliminated. Only if scum can't get a lurker will they push active people. Hence why I FoS Bear there.

Do you think Scrrrdbear 'couldn't get' Enchant/Porkens? I'm still voting Porkens

Not without yelling and dominating. There's also the fact that Enchant is obvtown. Do you really expect Bear to be able to push a case where little to no evidence exists and there's meta evidence for town Enchant?

Porkens might be an easier sell but still would require a dramatic shift.

Third, hard pushing a lurker might draw them to play. Scum want lurkers to lurk.

I like this post.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

My current thoughts:

Evergreen

: ENTchant, Don Draper x MisTREES

Showing signs of foliage

: Scrrrdbear, Titus, Vanderscamp

No leaves here, could be a tree or an arsonist in a brown jumpsuit

: Herta, Ircher, Porkens

I would include you in Evergreen.

I think that’s a pretty reason assessment.

My currect reads

:

DD x M
furtive
Enchant
Vanders
Titus

Sccrbear

Herta
Ircher
Porkens

I enjoyed your phrasing.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Wha point of unvoting if you can vote one of scumreads instead

Like VOTE: Ircher

Because I haven’t decided yet but leaning between Ircher and Porkens.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Wha point of unvoting if you can vote one of scumreads instead

Like VOTE: Ircher

Because I haven’t decided yet but leaning between Ircher and Porkens.

Herta isn’t impressing me either.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

HEY MISTRESS DO YOU WANT TO DOGPILE ON VANDER? I AM RUNNING OUT OF SUSPECTS. IM DOWN TO VANDER AND PORKENS.

I thought you wanted Porkens.....explain why you now prefer Vander

I DON'T PREFER EITHER I SUSPECT BOTH NOW THROUGH POE. TITUS IS DOWN FOR VANDER SO I ASK DON X MISTRESS BECAUSE IF BOTH WANT THEN IT'S EASIER TO PUSH THROUGH.

Titus is sus though. Don't you agree that Enchant/Herta are bad scumreads?

IM NOT CONVINCED TITUS IS SUS THOUGH. IF SHE IS FIGHTING WITH NANCY TO CREATE DRAMA IT CAN BACKFIRE AND IS LOT OF WORK. MORE LIKELY PARANOID TOWN.

IF U R TALKING ABOUT PORKENS, PORKENS ALSO WANTED IRCHER BEFORE THAT. SO THEY WANT IRCHER THEN ENCHANT/HERTA. NOT A GOOD LOOK.

Scrrbear makes a good point. Porkens was hardpushing Ircher now Enchant and Herta. @Porkens, when and why did you change your read on Ircher?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Nancy, I'll address you later when I feel like a human being. However, I didn't mean whining player as a personal attack. I apologize for that. I inelegantly put down my feelings that every post just feels like you're upset that I don't TR you.

Was that before or after your RVS vote? I get upset at activity srs and as I said I got 3 votes based on that in Turing, so it’s pretty much a guarantee I will get salty when that happens. I’m also extremely frustrated because I don’t feel you’re doing enough to engage with me or weren’t previously anyway.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Why don't the arsonists have a faction name?

Imo i know it's on level of insane telling, but it's probably real arsonist will not ask, because these REALLY draw hate, for reasoning that that's what arsonists asks to be as most distant with role mentally.

Maybe but I wouldn’t clear anyone for that.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

The posts regarding Ircher Herta and Porkens are spots I could engage with if you have reasons.

Those are the players doing the least amount of solving, so > rand chance at least 1 arsonist in there.

Porkens hardpushing Ircher, than completely dropping that read without much if any explanation doesn’t make a lot of sense.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Whew finally.

Ent chant and herta are the least townie to me right now because of their lack of content.

Entchant always has low content. What's the difference here Porkens?

Where is Ircher’s content? Enchant is doing a lot more than the three of you.

Ircher/Porkens team?

VOTE: Ircher

[Don Draper x Mistress]

VOTE: Titus

Don Draper is probably town, but they also seemed rather tunneled on me for an RVS vote that I haven't moved until now.

Why are you voting Titus?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

UNVOTE:

for now

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Discussed with Don. Intent to vote Ircher.

-Mistress

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Discussed with Don. Intent to vote Ircher.

-Mistress

I’m torn between Ircher making a valid point about Titus and wondering if he’s possibly pocketing me. Titus still sr me doesn’t make a whole lot of sense.

~Nancy (aka Don )

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I'm going back to Ircher then.

VOTE: Ircher

Outstanding gameplay

Auro really wants us to vote Ircher.

@Ircher, who do you sr other than Titus and who are your townreads?

~Nancy

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I AM OKAY TO GET TITUS HERE MAYBE UNLESS THEY CAN RATIONALIZE THEIR PUSH ON DONDRAPE

LOOKS A LITTLE SUS IN HINDSIGHT

Sometimes town do irrational pushes

And sometimes reality gets labeled irrational.

Nancy cries a lot

when FoSed.

Can you seriously not? Thanks. I’m really not okay with this and this is the second time I’ve had to comment on this and request that you stop.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

FIRE IS A GOOD SERVANT BUT A BAD MASTER

VOTE: PORKENS

LET'S MAKE BACON

I AM OKAY TO GET TITUS HERE MAYBE UNLESS THEY CAN RATIONALIZE THEIR PUSH ON DONDRAPE

LOOKS A LITTLE SUS IN HINDSIGHT

Sometimes town do irrational pushes

And sometimes reality gets labeled irrational. Nancy cries a lot when FoSed.

IS TITUS BAITING DON DRAPE INTO ANOTHER FIGHT BY CALLING THEM NANCY? IT IS PROVIDING A GOOD DISTRACTION FROM NOT

ONLY

IRCHER BUT ALSO PORKENS!

Calling me Nancy is fine, saying I “cry a lot” is disrespectful and borderline harassment. First she accuses me of “whining” now “crying”. I will not tell you again Titus, this is not okay.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

For real titus not cool

+1

<3

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Scum theatre?

I am not scum with anyone but Titus might be. Her baiting me like this for pretty much no reason is hella scummy.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

VOTE: Titus

[Don Draper x Mistress]

For real titus not cool

Scum theatre?

YES IT LOOKS LIKE DISTANCING FROM TITUS. YOU ARE PROBABLY BOTH LAUGHING AT DON DRAPE IN YOUR SCUM PT. AND AT IRCHER.

I could definitely see Titus doing that. She is intentionally trying to get me riled up to derail the thread.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Porkens, a readslist please. I want one from Titus as well.

~Nancy

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I have to be able to call a spade a spade. That's reality.

Anyway, Herta's last post looks rather tmi.

VOTE: Herta

No, saying I “whine” or “cry” isn’t acceptable. I meant what I said, do not do it again.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Explain how it’s “tmi”?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Tmi = too much information.

I don't buy Herta actually TRs Ircher because he can't find a partner for Ircher. He doesn't even consider me as a partner for Ircher, which also suggests a lack of analysis.

Now, I'll figure out some other way to comment on what I see with Nancy that's less bothersome but I'm not going to let Nancy object to my FoS and then do nothing productive and then paint me as the bad girl.

I made it beyond clear that my issue was with the pejorative use of the words “whining” and “crying”. I will asmit that you still FOS reading is definitely contributing to my sr of you because you just keep pushing that on me for pretty much no reason.

That’s why I unvoted Ircher because I don’t believe you actually FOS me here. You have played numerous games with me as he accurately pointed out, so I find it very difficult to believe you can’t tell that this is my towngame here.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

The more you object instead of scumhunting, the deeper my FoS grows, Nancy. Please engage my thoughts rather than objecting to my FoS. Objecting is not a magic pill.

What do you think I’m not engaging you on? All I’ve been pretty much doing is scumhunting. And you keep throwing this at me at the strangest times as well, so it’s hard to not think you’re trying to actively derail by doing that for pretty much no reason.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Auro you are seen and known, I am aware that you are in this game!

He’s been extremely busy but I’ll pass this on to him.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

The more you object instead of scumhunting, the deeper my FoS grows, Nancy. Please engage my thoughts rather than objecting to my FoS. Objecting is not a magic pill.

What do you think I’m not engaging you on? All I’ve been pretty much doing is scumhunting. And you keep throwing this at me at the strangest times as well, so it’s hard to not think you’re trying to actively derail by doing that for pretty much no reason.

I have specifically asked for your opinion or anyone's multiple times and got crickets or non responses. Would you like me to give post numbers or quotes?

You will have to requote it for me then. I haven’t been feeling particularly well, so may have possibly been distracted.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Ircher, who do you sr other than Titus and who are your townreads?

~Nancy

From town to scum:

Ircher
Vanderscamp
SCRRRDBEAR
Don Draper x Mistress (hydra of Nancy Drew 39 and Auro)
furtiveglance
Enchant
Porkens
Herta
Titus

If ircher scum I'd look at furtivegalance draper or enchant as partner so I don't think ircher as scummy now since I townread those three.

I don’t see the connections.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Ok so Herta's TMI is that Ircher is town

Could be either!
The TMI might be that Ircher isn't with any of the remaining players for TMI reasons, but Ircher is still scum with Herta.

Why does scum!Herta make that post though? At any rate my initial sr on Ircher has pretty much taken a nosedive, have no idea what Auro thinks about it.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Ircher, who do you sr other than Titus and who are your townreads?

~Nancy

From town to scum:

Ircher
Vanderscamp
SCRRRDBEAR
Don Draper x Mistress (hydra of Nancy Drew 39 and Auro)
furtiveglance
Enchant
Porkens
Herta
Titus

If ircher scum I'd look at furtivegalance draper or enchant as partner so I don't think ircher as scummy now since I townread those three.

This is the post in question. Are you guys saying Porkens knows Ircher is scum and setting us up while finding a justification to not scumread Ircher without directly townreading Ircher?

If Ircher’s scum here, I’m poweryeeting Herta.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Hmm, a little more suspicious of Scccccccccrdbrrr now.

-Mistress

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Ircher, who do you sr other than Titus and who are your townreads?

~Nancy

From town to scum:

Ircher
Vanderscamp
SCRRRDBEAR
Don Draper x Mistress (hydra of Nancy Drew 39 and Auro)
furtiveglance
Enchant
Porkens
Herta
Titus

If ircher scum I'd look at furtivegalance draper or enchant as partner so I don't think ircher as scummy now since I townread those three.

I don’t see the connections.

If you read my ISO you should be able to see how I concluded that a scum!Ircher isn't partnered with Porkens or Titus.

I have to be able to call a spade a spade. That's reality.

Anyway, Herta's last post looks rather tmi.

VOTE: Herta

A scum bum isn't likely to slot their partner at the top or bottom. Most likely a partner would land in the middle tier.

You, being at the bottom for ircher, isn't scum indicative. Same for porkens.

None of this is particularly persuasive. In LOST, scum had their buddies in every category - from trs to srs. I don’t think Ircher is scum but you’re analysis is bad.

~Nancy

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Retract sus on Herta, was never feeling it

Convenient

Says the player voteparked on a vanity wagon that no one but you is currently interested in flipping. I still don’t see the so-called “tmi” that Titus was alluding to. I just thought having us, furtive and Enchant as possible Ircher buddies seemed kind’ve whack because neither are anywhere near my PoE.

I will take another look at Scerrredbear and confer with Auro but I’m still not trusting Titus. She just sounds too certain about things and she usually doesn’t d1 without flips. @furtive, you remember how she seemed to not be extremely certain on pretty much anything in Chromavalon d1?

~Nancy

[Don Draper x Mistress]

FOR SOME REASON I THINK FURTIVE IS TITUS' PARTNER

I STILL WANT TO ELIMINATE TITUS

Retract sus on Herta, was never feeling it

Convenient

Says the player voteparked on a vanity wagon that no one but you is currently interested in flipping. I still don’t see the so-called “tmi” that Titus was alluding to. I just thought having us, furtive and Enchant as possible Ircher buddies seemed kind’ve whack because neither are anywhere near my PoE.

I will take another look at Scerrredbear and confer with Auro but I’m still not trusting Titus. She just sounds too certain about things and she usually doesn’t d1 without flips. @furtive, you remember how she seemed to not be extremely certain on pretty much anything in Chromavalon d1?

~Nancy

CAN YOU ASK AURO IF FURTIVE TRIPPED HIS FIRE SAFETY WIRES YET

BECAUSE FURTIVE TRIPPED MINE

Auro hasn’t mentioned furtive and I don’t understand where you’re getting this from?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Retract sus on Herta, was never feeling it

Convenient

Says the player voteparked on a vanity wagon that no one but you is currently interested in flipping. I still don’t see the so-called “tmi” that Titus was alluding to. I just thought having us, furtive and Enchant as possible Ircher buddies seemed kind’ve whack because neither are anywhere near my PoE.

I will take another look at Scerrredbear and confer with Auro but I’m still not trusting Titus. She just sounds too certain about things and she usually doesn’t d1 without flips. @furtive, you remember how she seemed to not be extremely certain on pretty much anything in Chromavalon d1?

~Nancy

I look back and see a more considered Titus, but I wouldn't characterise her as unsure. As for the change in tone, Chromavalon is a kind of setup where you want to be more considered as town. Also, they seem angry in this game for some reason. I don't really like it. But I don't know why someone would blow up early game as mafia, in a 2 mafia game.

Being angry isn’t a towntell for Titus . She’s been plenty angry as either alignment. I wouldn’t ai read her based off of that but she’s probably more likely to be angry as scum.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

VOTE: Porkens
I expected a reads list by now. I'm start to think that Porkens has no reads (because they haven't posted one yet) given that they have had plenty of time to post some by now.

@Porkens, can you give us some reads?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I'd like if everyone answered a question: Do you think any bus votes have happened on any wagon excluding mine? (I know I'm town so I know mine can't be bussing.)

No clue.

Like what is the point of these questions Titus is asking when we don’t have any flips?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Well I really can’t tell rn if Porkens is scum or checked out town. In my experience, they are usually more obvious as scum but I haven’t played with them in quite awhile. I would expect scum in this game to be trying a bit harder because there’s only two of them.

It concerns me that Porkens isn’t really too worried about the possibility of being run up. Auro hasn’t expressed any concern about them.

It’s obviously not good that they aren’t giving reads but my theory is if Porkens is actually scum their buddy would most likely be bussing them but I think with only two scum, it’s hard to believe that scum would bus on d1 unless they absolutely had too.

I still want that readslist from them but I still am the most suspicious of Titus.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Titus vote Porkens. Why haven't you already?

Because I see no reason to compromise on someone who I'm not scumreading.

Posts like 439 show Nancy has no desire to talk to me, only at me. If Nancy wanted to know why I asked something, she could just ask me. Instead, she just makes an offhand comment implying my thoughts are baseless.

Town!Nancy talks to me but she has no desire to.

Okay Titus, why did you ask that? Did my alignment suddenly change for you with that question?

My alignment doesn’t depend on your approval of my posting.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Because I’m super bored now. @furtive, why is Herta town? @Titus, why is Herta scum?

Also @furtive, why is Porkens scum? @Titus, why is Porkens town?





Also, this video is dedicated to you, Titus. <3

[Don Draper x Mistress]

If it isn’t clear yet to you Titus, I’m obviously pocketing you. That’s why I’m voting you.


Seriously, i’m not going to switch my vote unless I hear a compelling case on either. And since Titus keeps shading me for very silly reasons, I’m not super inclined to trust her reads. @furtive, I really would like to know if you think arsonist!Porkens wouldn’t be efforting more here? And also who you think is their buddy? @Titus, same question wrt Herta. Actually, what outside of what you seem to read as a tmi do you sr about him?

*Watch her say me*.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Titus, I don’t understand the point of that question because we have no freaking flips but if you’d care to explain it to me, why you asked that question, I’m open to listening.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

And apologies in advance if I’m coming across either dismissive or rude, it’s seriously not my intention to do either and I’ll try to do better in the future. I’m just getting slightly irritated with Titus continuing to shade me because I don’t understand why she’s doing what she’s doing. Sorry @Titus, I’ll try to reign in the attitude.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

1.09

Votecount 1.09

Titus (3):

Ircher, Don Draper x Mistress, SCRRRDBEAR.

Porkens (2):

furtiveglance, Herta.

Herta (1):

Titus.

Ircher (1):

Vanderscamp.

Not Voting (2):

Enchant, Porkens.

With 9 players alive, it takes 5 to axe someone.

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2022-10-12 11:55:00).

Flavour

Tree #5 drew the short straw and has to host Woodpecker for the next 3 months.

Why don’t you vote then?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Actually that’s wrong. I wouldn’t be happy to eliminate anyone.

I have preferences of who I’d like to eliminate but they aren’t based on town/scum reads.

Like: Don Draper x Mistress (hydra of Nancy Drew 39 and Auro)
Love: Porkens
Wary: furtiveglance
Impatient: Herta
Enchanted: Vanderscamp
Wary: Ircher
Like: Titus
Wary: Enchant
Tempted: SCRRRDBEAR

lolwut

[Don Draper x Mistress]

It doesn't even have to be earth-shattering. You really couldn't find a single thing that stood out to you? A single oddity?

I think I’m taking Ircher completely off the table.

@Titus, why is Porkens town?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

However due to the specific mechanics of this game, I really don’t understand what Porkens is doing as either alignment. I agree with Scrrrbear, I still find Titus to be very suss.

but I’m willing to vote either now but prefer Titus because I could see if Porkens is the buddy they’re sacrificing themselves for her.

Titus’ reasons for fosing me is also weird because she keeps insisting that I’m not engaging her but scum!me engaged her plenty in Stumps, so where she’s getting that doing that is some kind of ai tell for me, I have no idea. I have no game ANYWHERE as ANY alignment where I don’t engage with other players, so I’m having a great deal of trouble believing her read on me is genuine. In DA, I was forced to engage with her because due to the mech in that game, being correctly ai read - as EITHER alignment could get you whacked.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

UNVOTE:

I will reread later. Please don’t hammer anything before I get back, thanks.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Porkens > Titus >> Herta >>> Everyone else.

I won’t be voting Ircher today, his posting has consistently gotten better.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Hi, I have no idea whom to vote for, I was hoping Auro took care of that. Porkens doesn’t really seem scummy to me. I don’t see any agenda.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

If opening posts count for anything, probably Herta and Ircher don’t look great.

VOTE: Herta

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Not really seeing it with Herta but fine. o.o

-Mistress

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Alarm is set to vote Titus in one hour

If Enchant gets on before you, they'll hammer someone of their choice.

Don't you want a say?

There first few posts look like scum filler to me. Not confident on it but I don’t think Porkens is scum and Titus opposed Porkens’ wagon.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@furtive, I think you’re wrong on Porkens and I liked Titus opposing that wagon.

~Nancy

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@furtive, I think you’re wrong on Porkens and I liked Titus opposing that wagon.

~Nancy

This is so frustrating. :/

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Ircher Herta or

Don

. Let's go.

Are you seriously freaking kidding me here?

Have godawful are your reads in this game to STILL have us in your PoE?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@furtive, I think you’re wrong on Porkens and I liked Titus opposing that wagon.

~Nancy

This is so frustrating. :/

Who isn’t engaging nox Titus?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

1.final

Votecount 1.final

Titus (5):

SCRRRDBEAR, Herta, Ircher, furtiveglance, Vanderscamp -

Axed

.

Herta (3):

Titus, Porkens, Don Draper x Mistress.

Ircher (1):

Enchant.

Not Voting (0):

-

With 9 players alive, it took 5 to axe someone.

And I thought Titus was supposed to be good at VCA.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Titus it’s extremely difficult to take you seriously if you still have us ib your PoE. I can’t even.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

VOTE: Herta

[Don Draper x Mistress]

VOTE: Scrrrrdbear

Auro prefers this.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I think scum is in Scrrrbear, Herta, Ircher.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

5/6 town players are not doused most likely.

We have... Uh. Well presuming arsonists think like me and will play safely and firefighter is not god of predicting, and we not cut down those they primed, like 3 chances for mistake. Maybe more. Never less.

Or we find town. Us, Vanders, you, Porkens and probably furtive are in that group for me.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Uh sorry guys. I thought Herta was townie, maybe I scumsided

When Porkens really towned it up and Titus hard opposed his wagon I figured she was probably town.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Titus it’s extremely difficult to take you seriously if you still have us ib your PoE. I can’t even.

Can you please stop focusing on this now that Titus is confirmed town?

No, because it’s extremely frustrating that she still isn’t reading me correctly after my d1 post and vote. I’m okay with any of bear, herta, ircher.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Uh sorry guys. I thought Herta was townie, maybe I scumsided

When Porkens really towned it up and Titus hard opposed his wagon I figured she was probably town.

I don't have porkens as hard town btw

Yeah, probably should switch furtive and Porkens but I really don’t think they’re scum.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

VOTE: Herta

Auro wants to switch it. I don’t think Scrrrbear really sounds aligned with anyone.

E-1

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Build a man a fire, he will be warm for a day. Set a man on fire, he will be warm for the rest of his life.

I love this.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

There should be scum on Herta. Scum knew he wasn't doused.

How do we know Herta wasn't doused?

It’s not a helpful post from Titus regardless, since most of the playerlist save you and Porkens were on it.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

3/5 are not doused.

if we chop undoused tree today, we can potentially lose. Watch your votes.

VOTE: enchant agreed titus

@Porkens, how are you getting scum from this?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

2.final

Votecount 2.final

Herta (5):

Vanderscamp, Ircher, SCRRRDBEAR, Don Draper x Mistress, Enchant -

Axed

.

Not Voting (3):

Porkens, furtiveglance, Herta.

Tree-stumps:

Titus.

With 8 players alive, it took 5 to axe someone.

However we will have to vote for someone. It’s not us, obviously not furtive. My guess could be Ircher/Scrrbear maybe?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

It's Herta and Porkens.

When Porkens really towned it up

Porkens 100% didn't do that. Porkens was a little more involved at deadline sure but I imagine any scum in the running for the lim would be.

Or Porkens?

I think Ircher’s certainly on Herta isn’t good.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

3/5 are not doused.

if we chop undoused tree today, we can potentially lose. Watch your votes.

However, the obvious problem here, is undoused are most likely in most people’s PoE or scum right? Arsonists are most likely going to try to douse slots they don’t view as milelimable, so that isn’t really helpful either. Would it make any more sense to lim a widely tr player? Obviously no, it wouldn’t.

Rn, Ircher is currently my strongest sr.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

VOTE: Porkens

Still want Porkens out, I feel like they were protected by dark forces earlier this game.

Not opposed since he keeps voting Enchant but never really gives a reason but I still think Ircher looks scummier. He harushed both miselims on Titus and Herta.

VOTE: Ircher

[Don Draper x Mistress]

hard pushed

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Ircher/Porkens kinda works

I’m willing to switch to Porkens, since It looks like he’s trying to pocket Titus who clearly doesn’t have great reads since Herta flipped tree and Titus called Enchant obvious town I believe, so don’t like that vote.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

VOTE: Porkens

Still want Porkens out, I feel like they were protected by dark forces earlier this game.

Not opposed since he keeps voting Enchant but never really gives a reason but I still think Ircher looks scummier. He harushed both miselims on Titus and Herta.

VOTE: Ircher

So you are opposed.

To Porkens? No, not at all.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Ircher/Porkens kinda works

I think this is my best guess for the arsonists. I dislike Porkens’ Enchant vote, so I could do either, if that isn’t clear.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I agree with Enchant. I don’t think arsonists’ primary targets are players that are easily miselimable and arsonists aren’t likely to douse stumps, because they’re probably looking for the firefighter.

Enchant, I want to hear more about your ff should claim idea and what everyone else thinks.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Ircher/Porkens kinda works

I think this is my best guess for the arsonists. I dislike Porkens’ Enchant vote, so I could do either, if that isn’t clear.

Do you want to vote Porkens then? Otherwise it's a 1/1/1 spread.

We don’t need to rush the vote do we? I think having wagons on both isn’t a bad idea at the start of the day.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.

If Porkens is Firefighter, yeah say that. Otherwise I'm tunnelled as hell!

I think the same should probably apply to Ircher as well and maybe Scrrrrbear but haven’t made up my mind on that yet. I think that could be a reasonable compromise. I don’t think ff should claim if they are not amongst those three.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.

What YOU think

Just answered. My current PoE is Ircher/Porkens/Scrrrbear and I think if any of those are ff, particularly Ircher or Porkens, I’m in favour. If ff is ANYONE ELSE, I think they should probably relain hidden, since I have no intention of voting for anyone today not in those three.

I don’t think it helps us for ff to out if they are not amongst Ircher/Porkens/Scrrrbear. Main reason for them to out is that we don’t accidentally miselim them and we aren’t going to lim anyone else, soif if it’s not in those three, arsonists don’t really need to know who it is.

As you already pointed out, ff shouldn’t claim targets which obviously goes without saying and just puts an unnecessary target on their back, so I would advise ff to claim if they’re getting run up. Ff doesn’t have better reads than trees, so I don’t see how it’s helpful for ff to out if they’re not at risk of being miselimed.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Enchant will you vote Porkens? Don refuses.

I never said that. Why do you keep saying that? I said I’m considering switching my vote to them. How are you getting refusal from that?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Enchant will you vote Porkens? Don refuses.

I vote no one, before i am sure.

+1

This is wise. @furtive, I don’t understand why you’re trying to rush the vote?

Vanders, Scrrrbear, Ircher and Herta haven’t even posted yet. What if you’re wrong? You were on Pooky in LOST. I think Porkens is pretty scummy but not enough to ram a lim through before everyone has even gotten a chance to post.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Enchant will you vote Porkens? Don refuses.

I never said that. Why do you keep saying that? I said I’m considering switching my vote to them. How are you getting refusal from that?

I'm getting refusal from your vote being on a different player.

Then you’re misreading. I’m not rushing the day, especially since not everyone has even posted yet.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Porkens, your Enchant vote is terrible. He is really obvtown.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

That’s fine, I’m not opposed. I just want to hear from everyone and not rush the day. Remember there are txo arsonists and it would be awesome to catch both today and that’s why we need to hear from ideally EVERYONE.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

To be extremely clear if Enchant looks to be in any danger, I will ram it through because he is so obviously not arsonist.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Oh really? Why such a strong read? I don’t like their posting style this game

Why what makes them scummy to you?

And what are your thoughts on furtive pushing you and what Enchant said about Ff?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Scum will favor lurker pushes here. Lurkers are more likely to give up if miseliminated. Only if scum can't get a lurker will they push active people. Hence why I FoS Bear there.

Do you think Scrrrdbear 'couldn't get' Enchant/Porkens? I'm still voting Porkens

Not without yelling and dominating.

There's also the fact that Enchant is obvtown.

Do you really expect Bear to be able to push a case where little to no evidence exists and there's meta evidence for town Enchant?

Porkens might be an easier sell but still would require a dramatic shift.

Third, hard pushing a lurker might draw them to play. Scum want lurkers to lurk.

Titus said she was obvtown reading that slot, yet you vote him and reference Titus, why? Does it not concern you at all, that you are literally the only player pushing Enchant?

VOTE: enchant

agreed titus

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Scum will favor lurker pushes here. Lurkers are more likely to give up if miseliminated. Only if scum can't get a lurker will they push active people. Hence why I FoS Bear there.

Do you think Scrrrdbear 'couldn't get' Enchant/Porkens? I'm still voting Porkens

Not without yelling and dominating.

There's also the fact that Enchant is obvtown.

Do you really expect Bear to be able to push a case where little to no evidence exists and there's meta evidence for town Enchant?

Porkens might be an easier sell but still would require a dramatic shift.

Third, hard pushing a lurker might draw them to play. Scum want lurkers to lurk.

Titus said HE was obvtown reading that slot, yet you vote him and reference Titus, why? Does it not concern you at all, that you are literally the only player pushing Enchant?

VOTE: enchant

agreed titus

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Titus, what do you think about Porkens pushing Enchant who I’m assuming still obvtown read?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

2.final

Votecount 2.final

Herta (5):

Vanderscamp, Ircher, SCRRRDBEAR, Don Draper x Mistress, Enchant -

Axed

.

Not Voting (3):

Porkens, furtiveglance, Herta.

Tree-stumps:

Titus.

With 8 players alive, it took 5 to axe someone.

However we will have to vote for someone. It’s not us, obviously not furtive. My guess could be Ircher/Scrrbear maybe?

Why is it obviously not furtive?

I haven't been townreading basically anything they've said in the last several days.

Because they were opposed to Herta but I’m not thrilled with him saying I refuse to vote Porkens just because my vote is currently on Ircher. I don’t understand the rush, especially since we could lose the game if we’re wrong.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Town: {Ircher}
Lean Town: {SCRRDBEAR, Draper}
Neutral Town: {furtiveglance}
Neutral Scum: {Enchant, Vanderscamp}
Lean Scum: {Porkens}

Can you explain those reads? Why is Scrrrbear your most confident town and why do you sr Enchant and Vanders?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

If y’all can’t see what’s scummy about herta I can help you:

Read his posts, read them carefully and beteween the lines. What is he really telling us with each post? It’s that he doesen’t town.

Enchant. Same person. Both scum.

WUT

[Don Draper x Mistress]

If y’all can’t see what’s scummy about herta I can help you:

Read his posts, read them carefully and beteween the lines. What is he really telling us with each post? It’s that he doesen’t town.

Dude's scum fersher.

C’mon dude help us out, what’s your opinion on who’s scum and should ff claim, etc.?

I mean the whole point of having town stumps is that their voices still get to be heard even after they’re dead.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

UNVOTE:

for now but I think those two posts by Porkens look like a scumclaim. Scum!Grandpamo wanted to lim dead town in RC uPick.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

If y’all can’t see what’s scummy about herta I can help you:

Read his posts, read them carefully and beteween the lines. What is he really telling us with each post? It’s that he doesen’t town.

Dude's scum fersher.

Idk, I still prefer Ircher.

Even though I think those posts are scummy I feel like town is more likely than mafia to make that kind of error.

I think this kind’ve went over your head, I read that post as pretty obvious sarcasm.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I also think there is something pretty weird about the way furtive is acting like Don preferring Ircher (who is imo still very scummy) over porkens is resisting the porkens wagon, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the team were Ircher/furtive.

I can also see porkens/Ircher but I'll ignore that world since we should be fine regardless today unless town really throws.

That kind’ve weirded me out as well but I disagree. I think it looks like Porkens maybe fake townslipped with those last two posts, unless he’s literally being facetious. And it doesn’t look that way to me.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

It seems everytime I want to vote Ircher, something happens to change my mind. Whether it’s those weird Porkens’ posts, furtive saying I’m refusing to vote Porkens and now Vanders pushing Ircher, I have no idea what to think now.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Town: {Ircher}
Lean Town: {SCRRDBEAR, Draper}
Neutral Town: {furtiveglance}
Neutral Scum: {Enchant, Vanderscamp}
Lean Scum: {Porkens}

Can you explain those reads? Why is Scrrrbear your most confident town and why do you sr Enchant and Vanders?

@Ircher, can you please answer this?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

1.final

Votecount 1.final

Titus (5):

SCRRRDBEAR, Herta, Ircher, furtiveglance, Vanderscamp -

Axed

.

Herta (3):

Titus, Porkens, Don Draper x Mistress.

Ircher (1):

Enchant.

Not Voting (0):

-

With 9 players alive, it took 5 to axe someone.

2.final

Votecount 2.final

Herta (5):

Vanderscamp, Ircher, SCRRRDBEAR, Don Draper x Mistress, Enchant -

Axed

.

Not Voting (3):

Porkens, furtiveglance, Herta.

Tree-stumps:

Titus.

With 8 players alive, it took 5 to axe someone.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Don, is there anything other than furtive being opposed to the Herta wagon that makes you think they're town?

Their iso. Why do you think it’s scummy? And I do think Porkens’ latest posts about Herta/Enchant are seriously hella weird.

So, I just don’t want to end the day yet but rn that’s where I expect my vote is probably going to go.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

If y’all can’t see what’s scummy about herta I can help you:

Read his posts, read them carefully and beteween the lines. What is he really telling us with each post? It’s that he doesen’t town.

Enchant. Same person. Both scum.

Porkens, were you being facetious with this?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Town: {Ircher}
Lean Town: {SCRRDBEAR, Draper}
Neutral Town: {furtiveglance}
Neutral Scum: {Enchant, Vanderscamp}
Lean Scum: {Porkens}

Can you explain those reads? Why is Scrrrbear your most confident town and why do you sr Enchant and Vanders?

@Ircher, can you please answer this?

I don't really feel like explaining practically all my reads. I will oblige you if you narrow it down to a single read you're most interested in hearing about.

Scrrrbear, Enchant, Vanderscamp

[Don Draper x Mistress]

If y’all can’t see what’s scummy about herta I can help you:

Read his posts, read them carefully and beteween the lines. What is he really telling us with each post? It’s that he doesen’t town.

Enchant. Same person. Both scum.

Porkens, were you being facetious with this?

No I just transposed the names in my mond

What does that mean, “transposed”? You mean muxed them up?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I disagree that Porkens should claim. Someone should just hammer.

Unless you’re also CCing ff, why would you be opposed to this?

Because you posted this BEFORE furtive CC’d Porkens.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Town: {Ircher}
Lean Town: {SCRRDBEAR, Draper}
Neutral Town: {furtiveglance}
Neutral Scum: {Enchant, Vanderscamp}
Lean Scum: {Porkens}

Can you explain those reads? Why is Scrrrbear your most confident town and why do you sr Enchant and Vanders?

@Ircher, can you please answer this?

I don't really feel like explaining practically all my reads. I will oblige you if you narrow it down to a single read you're most interested in hearing about.

Scrrrbear, Enchant, Vanderscamp

That's three names, not one.

I town read SCRRRDBEAR for ~reasons~.

Why won’t you answer my questions? And you didn’t actually give a reason for your Scrrrbear tr and I shouldn’t have to pull teeth to get you to explain this. Why can’t you explain your srs on Enchant and Vanderscamp?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Porkens claim

Townie response

I disagree that Porkens should claim. Someone should just hammer.

Not townie response

You always wait for a claim.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Obviously one of Porkens/furtive is lying. I would rather vote for the one that’s lying’s buddy. If we make the wrong decision, we lim fff before the have another chance to protect someone.

@Ircher, I want you to explain your tr on Scrrrbear and your sr’s on Enchant and furtive. If you’re town here. you’re not answering this is antitown.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Spoiler:

I disagree that Porkens should claim. Someone should just hammer.

Unless you’re also CCing ff, why would you be opposed to this?

Because you posted this BEFORE furtive CC’d Porkens.

Town: {Ircher}
Lean Town: {SCRRDBEAR, Draper}
Neutral Town: {furtiveglance}
Neutral Scum: {Enchant, Vanderscamp}
Lean Scum: {Porkens}

Can you explain those reads? Why is Scrrrbear your most confident town and why do you sr Enchant and Vanders?

@Ircher, can you please answer this?

I don't really feel like explaining practically all my reads. I will oblige you if you narrow it down to a single read you're most interested in hearing about.

Scrrrbear, Enchant, Vanderscamp

That's three names, not one.

I town read SCRRRDBEAR for ~reasons~.

Why won’t you answer my questions? And you didn’t actually give a reason for your Scrrrbear tr and I shouldn’t have to pull teeth to get you to explain this. Why can’t you explain your srs on Enchant and Vanderscamp?

Porkens claim

Townie response

I disagree that Porkens should claim. Someone should just hammer.

Not townie response

You always wait for a claim.

I already know what I posted. I asked you for answers to my questions and you respond by quoting me without any cobtext or explanation.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Firefighter.
N1: don
N2: vandercamp

Been playing bad on purpose to avoid getting doused

Why did you list targets? That just helps arsonists.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Ircher, in what game ever have you been to damned busy to explain your reads?

Also your reads contradict the claims. Obviously Porkens and furtive can’t both be scum here but you claim to sr both of them.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Don Draper x Mistress, I'm going to have to threaten you with the word 'paired' to make you vote Porkens. Because your progression is ridiculous. 1) Having me as top town all game and 2) Having Porkens as a scumread, "oh I'm not refusing to vote them I just prefer Ircher" etc. Give me a break. How are you now saying you can't decide between us and want to vote someone else? This is complete BS.

You can threaten me all you like. I won’t be intimidated into voting until I make sense of this.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Both of you are claiming ff and one of you is lying. I obviously don’t want to lim the ff!

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Furtive what about me trying to make sense of this makes me a buddy? If you’re the real ff, then tell me who the fuck is Porkens’ buddy. There’s still two arsonists remember?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

Don Draper x Mistress, I'm going to have to threaten you with the word 'paired' to make you vote Porkens. Because your progression is ridiculous. 1) Having me as top town all game and 2) Having Porkens as a scumread, "oh I'm not refusing to vote them I just prefer Ircher" etc. Give me a break. How are you now saying you can't decide between us and want to vote someone else? This is complete BS.

You can threaten me all you like. I won’t be intimidated into voting until I make sense of this.

That's the thing, your projected gameview is completely dysfunctional - not just inconsistent, but you never signposted when your thoughts apparently (must have) changed from having me way above Porkens to having us literally equal. And the fact that you won't even explain it now is not a good look.

This won’t work on me, it’s impossible to intimidate me when I’m town, so you can get wrecked,

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@furtive, tell me who you think is Porkens’ buddy?

@Porkens, answer me the same thing wrt to furtuve.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Furtive what about me trying to make sense of this makes me a buddy? If you’re the real ff, then tell me who the fuck is Porkens’ buddy. There’s still two arsonists remember?

Idk who the buddy is, I was considering Ircher. But the fact that you keep repeating "oh one of these 2 is mafia then"...it's like you're dumbtelling. Hell yeah 1 of us is mafia, you should have an opinion.

I said one of you is lying and I don’t want to lim the real ff and you threatening me and intimidating me isn’t helping me one iota. I honestly don’t gaf if you don’t like it. I’m not fucking rushing this!

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Furtive what about me trying to make sense of this makes me a buddy? If you’re the real ff, then tell me who the fuck is Porkens’ buddy. There’s still two arsonists remember?

Idk who the buddy is, I was considering Ircher. But the fact that you keep repeating "oh one of these 2 is mafia then"...it's like you're dumbtelling. Hell yeah 1 of us is mafia, you should have an opinion.

I said one of you is lying and I don’t want to lim the real ff and you threatening me and intimidating me isn’t helping me one iota. I honestly don’t gaf if you don’t like it. I’m not fucking rushing this!

You keep ignoring my question. How did you go from [Me, Enchant] top town, [Ircher, Porkens] most scum to having literally no idea?

Both of you claimed ff and I don’t know who to believe rn. If there was only one arsonist lef it would be different but there’s two and I think it’s just safer to lim the other one today but I want to first hear from Enchant, Vanderscamp and Scrrrbear and optimally Herta and Titus.

You trying to push me is just having the exact opposite effect.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Furtive what about me trying to make sense of this makes me a buddy? If you’re the real ff, then tell me who the fuck is Porkens’ buddy. There’s still two arsonists remember?

Idk who the buddy is, I was considering Ircher. But the fact that you keep repeating "oh one of these 2 is mafia then"...it's like you're dumbtelling. Hell yeah 1 of us is mafia, you should have an opinion.

I said one of you is lying and I don’t want to lim the real ff and you threatening me and intimidating me isn’t helping me one iota. I honestly don’t gaf if you don’t like it. I’m not fucking rushing this!

You keep ignoring my question. How did you go from [Me, Enchant] top town, [Ircher, Porkens] most scum to having literally no idea?

No, it’s you who is ignoring my answer. You both claimed ff and I don’t know who to believe. You can keep ignoring my answer but it’s the goddamnned truth whether you choose to believe it or not is up to you.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Furtive what about me trying to make sense of this makes me a buddy? If you’re the real ff, then tell me who the fuck is Porkens’ buddy. There’s still two arsonists remember?

Idk who the buddy is, I was considering Ircher. But the fact that you keep repeating "oh one of these 2 is mafia then"...it's like you're dumbtelling. Hell yeah 1 of us is mafia, you should have an opinion.

It’s posts like this and the earlier one saying I “refused” to vote Porkens earlier is a big paet of why I’m confused p. Had you not done either one, I would definitely be voting Porkens but both of those things have caused me to doubt you. If you’re the real fff, then that’s on you bud.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@Furtive what about me trying to make sense of this makes me a buddy? If you’re the real ff, then tell me who the fuck is Porkens’ buddy. There’s still two arsonists remember?

Idk who the buddy is, I was considering Ircher. But the fact that you keep repeating "oh one of these 2 is mafia then"...it's like you're dumbtelling. Hell yeah 1 of us is mafia, you should have an opinion.

I said one of you is lying and I don’t want to lim the real ff and you threatening me and intimidating me isn’t helping me one iota. I honestly don’t gaf if you don’t like it. I’m not fucking rushing this!

You keep ignoring my question. How did you go from [Me, Enchant] top town, [Ircher, Porkens] most scum to having literally no idea?

No, it’s you who is ignoring my answer. You both claimed ff and I don’t know who to believe. You can keep ignoring my answer but it’s the goddamnned truth whether you choose to believe it or not is up to you.

how can you not know who to believe, when you've had a consistent opinion all game. You must at least have some idea. You can't have zero thoughts. I'm going to bed now. I just read my own ISO and my reads were insanely good all game, it's so frustrating that I wanted Porkens D1 and D2 and you literally blocked it with a VANITY WAGON on Titus because they called you whiny or something. God DAYUM

I wasn’t even voting Titus at the end of d1.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I’m only one vote, how can I block anything?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

1.final

Votecount 1.final

Titus (5):

SCRRRDBEAR, Herta, Ircher, furtiveglance, Vanderscamp -

Axed

.

Herta (3):

Titus, Porkens, Don Draper x Mistress.

Ircher (1):

Enchant.

Not Voting (0):

-

With 9 players alive, it took 5 to axe someone.

This was the eod1 wagon. Are you seriously going to accuse me of being the reasons
for these wagons?

Oh and guess what, no eod1 wagon on Porkens.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I’m only one vote, how can I block anything?

Early game you were a UTR and you led on Titus. Repeatedly. Don't try and rewrite history, that's ubersilly.

1.final

Votecount 1.final

Titus (5):

SCRRRDBEAR, Herta, Ircher, furtiveglance, Vanderscamp -

Axed

.

Herta (3):

Titus, Porkens, Don Draper x Mistress.

Ircher (1):

Enchant.

Not Voting (0):

-

With 9 players alive, it took 5 to axe someone.

This was the eod1 wagon. Are you seriously going to accuse me of being the reasons
for these wagons?

Oh and guess what, no eod1 wagon on Porkens.

BECAUSE EVERYONE UNVOTED PORKENS SO I HAD NO CHOICE

And I forced everyone to unvote Porkens I suppose?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I’m only one vote, how can I block anything?

Early game you were a UTR and you led on Titus. Repeatedly. Don't try and rewrite history, that's ubersilly.

If everyone wanted to lim Porkens it would have happened with or without my vote.

I’m a tree, so if Porkens is arsonist it’s not me and I’m obviously never aligned with you.

If you hadn’t been mischaracterizing my earlier post as “refusing” when I didn’t and now threatening me with being a hypothetical Porkens’ buddy, I would probably be voting him now but you coming at like this has gotten me really freaked out. :/

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.

If Porkens is Firefighter, yeah say that. Otherwise I'm tunnelled as hell!

@Furtive, why did you make this post if you know you’re the real ff?

[Don Draper x Mistress]

@furtive, what do you think about what Enchant is suggesting? Do you think Ff should out but obviously NOT claim targets?

I’m seriously reconsidering switching my vote to Porkens. But first, I want to hear more discussion about what Enchant is suggesting.

Are you in favour of ff outing or you think it’s best that they stay hidden? I haven’t yet made up my mind on that, so I want to hear opinions on that other than Enchant’s.

If Porkens is Firefighter, yeah say that. Otherwise I'm tunnelled as hell!

Firefighter.
N1: don
N2: vandercamp

Been playing bad on purpose to avoid getting doused

I counter claim, no notes for you though

@Furtive, you need to explain this.

[Don Draper x Mistress]

I just did extensive meta dives on both Porkens and furtive and sadly all Itook away from that is a ginormous headache. :/