Newbie 2102 Mafia PT

[Spartan117]

Hey, how's it going? good to play with you, do you have any strategy or plans you wanna talk about? anything you are planning on doing?

Personally I think we may struggle as it seems like we are in a game of newbies where the vast majority are all so new to it, that there has been lots of talk about getting rid of the more experienced players first which is obv not good for us.

There also seems to be a few of them that have you locked in their eyes, we need to find a way of turning them on each other at some point without it being obvious.

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I also have some suspicion on some potential mason team amongst the newbies with how someone of them are backing each other so early.

[Spartan117]

Yes it's quite painful, literally being solid town af yet still getting voted and sussed... for basically scum hunting
I dont know how newbies Leste how to play when they distrust the SE so specifically so much, I'm just hoping to bunch up with corwin somewhat at least he understands how it should go.

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Ccgeek has actually done quite questionable things yet because I'm pointing it out I'm somehow sus?

Somehow leading the conversation when no one is actually online or posting, dont get what I'm supposed to do, I would be saying the same thing whatever my alignment is.

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Yeah it was as I already voted, I'm just trying to look townie to them as I think he might get the fake hammer to drive content and hopefully start to look elsewhere

Its not a coincidence that the 3 SEs all have around double the number of posts as near enough all the newbies...

Then they'll sus us for being active

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That was a fake hammer? I think I want to push ee more over the lack of conclusions - like you said you were nk-ed in the newbie because your reads were good!

Given you was there in the first game I referenced you are able to attest although I wouldn't want us to seem too buddied up. But as an SE ee is basically putting us and corwin together and I do feel safer in this 3 that we actually know how games should go, doesn't look like the other 6 seem to yet.

I get the impression ee is trying to challenge the SEs see how they respond and hopefully clear them and then focus on the newbs, although I could be wrong he might try and challenge us all game which with his method is just silly. Hopefully the others see that.

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They seem to all post so infrequently that any sort of reaction testing looks pointless from a town or scum perspective, so I'm not sure if anything will come from my fake hammer

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Feel free to take some time, just try to stay out of prod range if you can, the others will come back at some point or sub out eventually for someone who wants to engage, I just wish it was sooner rather than later. the heat from earlier seems off you which is good if we can get it back to between them we will be better off. I kinda wish Corwin was a third scum would be good to get him in here too lol.

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Provided we get the hammer here and flip, what are your thoughts on the NK target?

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Curious what everyone will think of all 3 SEs being alive day 2 although I think its fine to point out you were highly wagoned early and I've been second wagon with 3 votes on me a bit and corwin could have a pr defending him so they went for someone who they think wouldn't be protected by jailer or doc if they are in game and also hunting for them PR roles who ideally should be hiding under the radar, I also think there is a chance of Princess and evil being a Mason team but I'll look more into that night 1

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Just waking up, I wanna do a re-read with PRs in mind, unsure who I should roll block rn, will look into it once I get home from work

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Ok just sat down, first thought first, we either have Cop and Doc, JK and Tracker or 2 masons, do you have any thoughts swaying you as to which we have?

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thinking that if we have masons it would be HPE and EE based off their interactions, other than that could be 2 seperate PRs,

Corwin has been very proactive and may get a sense of safety doing so if he feels the scum will go for a more inactive poster who is trying to hide as a PR in the shadows, wouldnt be surprised if he was a cop,doc,jk,tracker

Thoughts on SirRhett subbing in straight away for someone at the very begininning it could be 1 of 3 things
1 the most likely the person just didnt see their role pm and hadnt checked the site
2 the person saw a VT role and was annoyed that they didnt get town PR or scum, so just left it to maybe try and reroll
3 saw a PR role and the pressure of being a PR was too much (this one I think is less likely)

Either way with very little to go on other than that and their general distancing from people I think they could be VT, prob need to finish reading first.

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early point of note is HPE defending Sir Rhett in post 29 after you put a second vote on him, could me masons?

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Do you think there is any merit in not carrying out the NK at all so there is sus on the newer players who might not know what they are doing?

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Bella are you around today? We gotta sort this today sometime

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Who do you think we would have the most issue with Day 2?

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Framing it as one scum, one scum off the wagon works really well for us.

So that would be one of Sir Rhett, Corwin or Turtle with one of EE Nek?

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I think HPE feels most unpredictable so agree on thoughts between her and EE

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Framing it as one scum, one scum off the wagon works really well for us.

I think pretty much everyone but maybe turtle was happy to be on the wagon

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Thinking RBing one of turtle nek or rhett all 3 sorta hid a bit and could be PR

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Framing it as one scum, one scum off the wagon works really well for us.

We can also bring up the multiple people who jumped off before it was hammered so as to get town points when it flips green

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Do you think it would be better to NK EE then? I think we should be fine honestly I just need to switch things on a bit more

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Sorry, massive say yesterday, I passed my driving test!

Also yes Congratulations!
For some reason this post comes up with smaller text than the others on my phone

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RB Rhett seems a good idea?

I think Eeyore might be an issue for you but the kill doesn't really point at anyone and I think we can get through.

Its like what kill would people think we would make and who would likely kill hpe

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From your more advanced playing experience with Corwin do you know if he plays any differently as a PR as appse to a VT?

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What's your reasoning behind rhett in particular?

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Also yeah sounds like all the hard work paid off! Its been a hard few years for sure, congrats on the baby too! Sounds like you're doing great, must be tough having a little one during the pandemic too.

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Spartan roleblocks Sir Rhett

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I knew it aha! Wonder if we will get an early claim? Basically gives us 1 conf town who we can just ignore and nk night 2

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Do you wanna talk strategy day 2 before we begin, I was gonna wait for a few to post before I join I dont want to seem like I was ready for the day to begin

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Princess and evil being a Mason team

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Looks like it's lining itself to be a Sir Rhett or Mr Turtle day 2 elim atm maybe EE or Nek but I think less likely. With one of the first two who are you thinking Night 2 if things keep going this way? EE or Corwin? I like having Corwin around but im just paranoid he's gonna sus us at some point.
If we don't do Corwin at that point things seem like the attention would definitely turn to the SEs as to why none of us 3 are dead, again we can just say the scum team are PR hunting going for conf town rather than strong town.

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Do you think it's beneficial for us to get the mason claim today, but the others are saying its better if they claim today rather than tomorrow.
I feel like if they claim we nk them, that gives us a reason for the nk, if they don't claim questions will be asked why 3 SEs are alive day 3... and if we nk corwin and show he's town they are defo gonna want 1 of us elimed day 3 so I see the excuse for the nk being the mason better for us? Or am I misunderstanding?

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It's interesting that I disagree with a bunch of what corwin is saying, but I think he does look town. If I vote sir rhett it'll be towards the end of the day because 'hes a liability in elo '.

As a hammer or as the 3rd vote to push it?

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Neks push on me feels like it lacks substance and I feel like I can break it down tonight when I get in, I'm just not sure what to do about corwin and EE atm they seem hard not to town read

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I need you to give me something more in game to help me sort you, I have EE and Corwin in my town pool and Turtle Rhett and Nek in my scum pool, I dont know where to place you. Atm I've got you in the middle

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You mean pushing me or elimming me?

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I really don't want to have a replacement and I think it will just slow things down further and make it harder to elim the slot, I think the main slots we are going to be able to elim atm are sirrhett and nek, I dont see corwin or EE getting elimed today

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I think if we are able to get a mightycannon elim today based on sirrehtts actions, with turtle the night elim, we have nek and you scum team vs corwin/EE and me scum team, I think we can prob get ee and corwin to elim nek, or in the slimmer chance of ee to turn on corwin, I dont think corwin turns on EE

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I just dont think there is gonna be enough to justify not going there, will have to see how we line up after they present a read list, hopefully they find nek EE and corwin sus lol

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Why does Nek look back when this looks town? They were town reading sirrhetts slot even tho they had barely posted which I don't understand.

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We have conf town it has to be turtle the mason who didnt turn up to vote, after neks push on corwin me I think EE might consider corwin a bit more, he seems to have me as lock town, I just town it up I guess.

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Although I still wanna try and push for the elim on nek we only need 3, my only worry is at this point it would have to be a scum team of you and nek, I dont want them to try and eliminate you first because that would put me in a 3 way with Eeor corwin and I guess Nek so maybe not the end of the world

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I dont think we should ever risk not killing the conf town, corwin and ee looked happy to elim EE so long as they don't turn on me we should be fine

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There was already some distancing done by nek on you I could try and highlight as for part of the reason if one of you or nek was fliped, along with neks annoyance of flipping MC because he might see a better chance of getting him to vote with him

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Wanna talk any strategy going into day 3?

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Yeah thats the plan, but I'll only be able to do it properly when I get in from work, also if either corwin or EE put their vote on Nek so long as we are both here together at the same time we can double vote and end the day and win as it should take just 3 votes to kill

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Are you around? Nek has voted Corwin

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Corwin has now voted Nek, can you coordinate with me and let me know when you are around before you do anything.

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Either one so long as we are agreed before hand, you wanna go corwin yes?

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Done

[Spartan117]

Phew that was tense, GG

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You did great! And we won! Aha