Open 867: PYP: SEFD - Game Over !

[Porkens]

Let’s goooooooo!
VOTE: northsidegal

[Porkens]

I picked 1 because I thought everyone else would second guess their way out of it.

I played in a pyp a looooong time ago and the town used some big brain method to determine scum based on numbers. It was slightly different as we drafted two numbers. One of you big brains can probably figure it out although it may have required some pregaming. All I know is I felt like town had esp and got me dead just based on the number I picked.

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[Porkens]

Yeah let’s have a nice fun game and be cool to each other. Like I think enchants banter is hella scummy. But I like enchant and respect them as a player.

[Porkens]

But I think I also support the junkies wagon

[Porkens]

Junkos

[Porkens]

I sincerely apologize it was autocorrect.

[Porkens]

VOTE: Roden

Why?

[Porkens]

Can you elaborate?

[Porkens]

I definitely wouldn’t townread NK15 for that post.

[Porkens]

I just had a game where one scum did nothing but ask why people townread other people, so I guess I’m sensitive to it.

[Porkens]

In fact I think it’s odd that you town lean that. Your explanation that you think it shows a town mindset doesn’t really hold water for me. Why would that come from town? Your explanation states:

“as though one has read through the thread, can at least see the justification for all of the rest of the reads, but can't see the reasoning for one of them. i imagine that scum trying to ask a question just to ask a question would be less likely to single out a single read from a set of them and more likely to respond to a post with basically only one point in it.“

You don’t say anything about why that is town behavior. A scum would be just as capable of honestly doing all of those things without having to fake anything. A very comfortable move for scum.

But you are also basically saying I think he is town because he did this thing I think is more likely to come from town.

Then you shit on your own read.

VOTE: NK15 that’s a scum post.

[Porkens]

And I’ll say it: if nk15 flips red, then so will nsg

[Porkens]

In fact I think it’s odd that you town lean that. Your explanation that you think it shows a town mindset doesn’t really hold water for me. Why would that come from town? Your explanation states:

“as though one has read through the thread, can at least see the justification for all of the rest of the reads, but can't see the reasoning for one of them. i imagine that scum trying to ask a question just to ask a question would be less likely to single out a single read from a set of them and more likely to respond to a post with basically only one point in it.“

You don’t say anything about why that is town behavior. A scum would be just as capable of honestly doing all of those things without having to fake anything. A very comfortable move for scum.

But you are also basically saying I think he is town because he did this thing I think is less likely to come from scum.

Then you shit on your own read.

VOTE: NK15 that’s a scum post.

[Porkens]

And hey nice to see you again Northsidegal.

Also where the hell is noot moofia

[Porkens]

Really scummy through post 22.

And why do you not think it’s within JC/NM, or the FIVE people that picked 1?

Asking why someone doesn’t think something is kind of in line with what o was talking about earlier.

And why do you not think it’s within JC/NM, or the FIVE people that picked 1?

And why do you not think it’s within JC/NM, or the FIVE people that picked 1?

And it better be a good reason because I can already think of one, and it’s not a great look for you Sir Bear

IDRC ABOUT THE 1 CHOICES, I RULED THAT NUMBER OUT RIGHT AWAY.

THE SHADE IN #38 IS MORE INDICATIVE OF SCUM.

VOTE: Gamma

So, despite the statistical evidence supporting there being multiple scum in the 1s, you have somehow "ruled them out" already. Yeah that's bogus.
VOTE: SCRRRDBEAR

I mean, it’s omgus, but let’s look at 38:

And why do you not think it’s within JC/NM, or the FIVE people that picked 1?

And why do you not think it’s within JC/NM, or the FIVE people that picked 1?

And it better be a good reason because I can already think of one, and it’s not a great look for you Sir Bear

IDRC ABOUT THE 1 CHOICES, I RULED THAT NUMBER OUT RIGHT AWAY.

THE SHADE IN #38 IS MORE INDICATIVE OF SCUM.

VOTE: Gamma

So, despite the statistical evidence supporting there being multiple scum in the 1s, you have somehow "ruled them out" already. Yeah that's bogus.
VOTE: SCRRRDBEAR

And it better be a good reason because I can already think of one, and it’s not a great look for you Sir Bear

So yeah, it is a weird shadey thing to say.

Ugh quote failure and I’m on my phone can’t fix it. Sorry. Will continue in next post

[Porkens]

In fact I think it’s odd that you town lean that. Your explanation that you think it shows a town mindset doesn’t really hold water for me. Why would that come from town? Your explanation states:

“as though one has read through the thread, can at least see the justification for all of the rest of the reads, but can't see the reasoning for one of them. i imagine that scum trying to ask a question just to ask a question would be less likely to single out a single read from a set of them and more likely to respond to a post with basically only one point in it.“

You don’t say anything about why that is town behavior. A scum would be just as capable of honestly doing all of those things without having to fake anything. A very comfortable move for scum.

But you are also basically saying I think he is town because he did this thing I think is more likely to come from town.

Then you shit on your own read.

VOTE: NK15 that’s a scum post.

i do say why i think it's town behavior: because i think that it's indicative of someone reading the thread and genuinely having their own thoughts. scum is "capable" of doing anything that town can do, of course: it's a question of probability, and my evaluation is that the probability that town asks that question is (even if slightly!) higher than that for scum. i didn't "shit on" my own read, i'm trying to be clear about the exact degree to which i think things and not overstate anything.

it feels like the criticism you're making of my read could be applied to basically any read ever. oh, you think that that action is towny because it's more likely to come from town? well, yeah, that's kinda how this game works.

I can see where you are coming from. I have a couple of points;

1. Scum can’t do anything town can do. Scum knows they are scum and have to “act towny” to not get eliminated. That’s an act. It’s very hard to “forget you are scum.” So in a way, every scum post is forced. Town has no such restriction.

2. It doesn’t explain every argument ever. You are saying that you think that behavior is towny, but you haven’t justified it in an acceptable way to establish that is town behavior. That’s the part of your argument I am attacking.

3. I don’t think you really want to get into “probability” here. Everyone is more probably town, so your feeling that is true doesn’t count for much.

[Porkens]

4. You did downplay your own read - we can agree on that. I think that’s scummy because it’s a good setup for having your read proved wrong. I can see scum motivation there. What would the town motivation be?

[Porkens]

Yeah gamma is scummy.

[Porkens]

No

[Porkens]

Ok well agree to disagree I think that’s the definition of downplaying.

[Porkens]

Downplaying

[Porkens]

Downplaying

i'd probably say uncertain rather than downplay. the latter implies actively working to de-emphasize rather than simply being transparent about where you stand

Yes, exactly, that’s what NSG is doing, I think.

[Porkens]

i have a scum read on porkens

it is medium strong

Please explain.

Penguin: ok sounds good.

[Porkens]

I think drilling down on this one point about semantics is distracting from the first three points to which NSG has not responded. Those are the meat of the argument.

[Porkens]

That’s a pretty towny post.

[Porkens]

Seemingly?

[Porkens]

i have a scum read on porkens

it is medium strong

Please explain.

Penguin: ok sounds good.

i feel like the strength of your vote on NK15 and then you asking why hasn't not mafia showed up doesn't really match up with someone who hasn't caught up with the game? I asked about that because I find it suspect that you had no thoughts about the wagon on gamma until I asked you explicitly. and I find it vaguely partnery that once I asked you went back and like scum cased gamma post by post but remained on NK15 which I still don't understand why you think he is scum

also small thing but i dont really think you believe what you're saying about downplaying and i feel like if you were town you just would've admitted you were wrong even if it weakened your argument

I see. Well, I admit I had read the entire thread but I was focusing on a certain segment of it. I actually thought about typing that out earlier. Eh, make of it what you will.

I’m done talking about downplaying, I’ll just let your point sit there.

[Porkens]

Jesus Christ.

[Porkens]

There’s a serious non rvs wagon on gamma.

[Porkens]

I don’t think I do at this moment. Although your initial posts seem scummy, your reaction on recent pages rings towny to me. It also feels like about half of your wagon is just hop ons. I mean what can you expect from a Page 9 wagon.

I was trying to engage with enchant by articulating the game state.

[Porkens]

To encourage enchant to talk about the gamestate.

[Porkens]

So can you make a case on gamma?

[Porkens]

Because so far you are just telling him to make a case on someone.

[Porkens]

Him=them

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And are you voting them “for pressure” or do you actually scumread them?

[Porkens]

Ok which cases / posts specifically do you agree with and why?

[Porkens]

Cool Yeah sorry on my phone Tiny text nice to see you again.

[Porkens]

Oh I didn’t realize, ok cool.

[Porkens]

Excuse me I have poor reading comprehension and retention. I apologize for making you repeat yourself.

[Porkens]

I was never on the gamma wagon.

[Porkens]

Wait who claimed a role?

[Porkens]

Ah I see. Hmm, must be nice.

[Porkens]

Yeah but that was half way through my read.

[Porkens]

not engaging anywhere else seriously

But they have a super secret scumread

Seriously?
It would be better for town if people would stop doing that - not explaining reads - because it is anti-town.
Unexplained reads can come from anyone until that idiotic meta stops existing.

I can see scum making this post. It’s both “LAMIST” and super safe content that doesn’t require a town perspective to be “constructed.”

[Porkens]

It’s me

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Awkward little hop off.

[Porkens]

302 is an interesting post though.

[Porkens]

Interesting, can you point it out?

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Downplaying yeah

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Explain why

[Porkens]

the draft phase is over.

the order of the draft is as follows:

the mafia have selected the

multitasking

modifier - this means a mafia player may use the factional nightkill and a role ability on the same night.

the role bidding phase begins now. for your convenience, i have also included the possible role choices below:

Spoiler:

night 3 vigilante	or	vengeful
1-shot vigilante	or	2-shot PGO (active)
ascetic cop	or	bulletproof
draft cop	or	1-shot watcher
doctor	or	roleblocker
universal backup	or	rolecop
neighborizer	or	voyeur
jailkeeper	or	tracker

please pm me

the specific role

you wish to be. you have about 48 hours to do so.

[Porkens]

Let’s look at these numbers.

[Porkens]

Why 14 junko and notmafko?

[Porkens]

Why 14 junko and notmafko?

my birthday is december 14.

aight back to ignoring you

Why would you pick your birthday instead of a number that might get you a power?

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“Towning”

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I don’t know

I need to reread and haven’t had time to do so yet

I think in general the way he played around you was awkward regardless of your alignment but I haven’t decided if that’s actually scummy or not

Sorry bad answer I’ll reread soon

I posted in the middle of my read and then again at the end of my read, my read evolved, it wasn’t awkward and I defy you to point out an awkward exchange or phrasing or anything else you think is awkward about me in terms of gamma or anything else for that matter. Come at me Dann.

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Yellow/orange are you kidding me? I am to wing it the fuck up this game.

Like honestly that is a terrible read. I feel like you are ranking me based on what you think the average read on me is.

[Porkens]

And 14 was the biggest number you could think of?

[Porkens]

The number had to be between 0 and 14, it's in the rules

Oh shit the kid fucked up and sent a different version of the rules to scum VOTE: not_mafia

[Porkens]

Kid=mod

[Porkens]

I couldn’t be more obviously town.

[Porkens]

Arrrrggghhhh <rips out own eyes and throat, bleeds to death>

[Porkens]

It was a meme. Keeping my vote there for “reasons” though.

[Porkens]

Yes! Many times. The last meal I had was lasagna and it tasted like hot dogfood

[Porkens]

Stop trying to pocket me.

[Porkens]

Cool cool cool cool

[Porkens]

I think gamma is town. If she has me fooled, nice job.

[Porkens]

Liking my vote.

[Porkens]

Oh wait no I’m not. VOTE: nk15

That’s better.

[Porkens]

I can compromise junko.

[Porkens]

VOTE: junko E-2

[Porkens]

Not buying this.
VOTE: Junko

Everything you do feels so scummy, even when I agree with it. Maybe especially then

[Porkens]

I'm finding it a little hard to engage with this game.

Ask me anything. Reads, mech spec, anything. I want to engage with someone.

AMA

Is cereal a soup?

That’s what I’m trying to figure out.

[Porkens]

Ugh I’m going to reread VOTE: unvote

[Porkens]

That’s a spooooooooooopoOoOoOoOoOoOooOoooOoOOoooOoooky vote

[Porkens]

HEY NOT MAFIA TRICK OR TREAT?

[Porkens]

Ah she might have just knewn a wagon on me is going nowhere.

[Porkens]

What makes Roden so town?

[Porkens]

So Junko, you were calling out inactives in 161 and I wasn't on the list, but Yume and NK were.

(I would argue that they had a decent amount of content in each of their posts, though granted they each only had one. Meanwhile I hadn't posted anything of consequense, and I would argue that -despite their post count- penguin and Enchant hadn't really posted any readable content either.)

BUT THEN, you later posted another lurker list that did have me on it in 227

Whyyyyyyy

I've come to one potential conclusion here but I'd like to hear it from you

This doesn’t feel town.

[Porkens]

Eh, this game needs a flip or two.

VOTE: junko

[Porkens]

VOTE: unvote jkjk

[Porkens]

I dunno everyone not voting him?

[Porkens]

Johnny

[Porkens]

Yeah the meme one right?

[Porkens]

Junko constantly self-voting and deploying is AtE is uh not great. Feels more scum manipulative than town manipulative since I don't think the frustration seems natural from a townie perspective. I'm fine voting there unless people want to wait before we the end the day.

This reasoning doesn’t feel substantive to me. Am I alone in this feeling?

[Porkens]

I’m leaning townchan.

[Porkens]

Can we please eliminate NK15?

VOTE: nk15 I’d prefer this over pretty much any other.

[Porkens]

Hum…! Ok that tracks.

[Porkens]

Gamma/junko/yume/Johnny/Rodan
? Yeah s that was you are saying?

[Porkens]

Posts like this seem town to me, penguins.

[Porkens]

Maybe the humor in it sways me I suppose

[Porkens]

Oh my fucking god you are beautiful.

VOTE: penguinepower

[Porkens]

I’m just super intimidated by him

[Porkens]

yeah - i'm fine with that

VOTE: nk15

Earlier this was a hard no for you because “gamma hasn’t Towned”

The only real change I see is now you have three votes on you.

So this change seems self-preservational.

N_M catches scum different.

[Porkens]

Gamma hasn’t been townie. No.

What was this reacting to?

[Porkens]

Oh ok I thought you were responding directly to me because I posted a question two posts previously

[Porkens]

VOTE: nk15

Ok ok

[Porkens]

VOTE: NSG

Weird for You to vote nsg after your last day 1 post

This should be a nobrainer

VOTE: Porkens

I don't want to say I told you so, but I did

I challenge you to explain your case.

[Porkens]

Was re-reading the game. Pretty sure Porkens is scum, esp by the interactions with Gamma.
VOTE: Porkens

You too

[Porkens]

Excuse me my scumhunting lead to yesterdays elim, so don’t say I’m not scumhunting.

Accusing me of FOTD voting is also horseshit because my nk15 vote was post case and my Pp vote was a hilarious meme wagon*.

Balancing all my posts out I hardly think you’ll find the majority are purely defending myself, although the ones that are reflect probably scums attempt to eliminate me.

I will happily eliminate junko, yume, possibly others.

I don’t feel NSG scum here because nsg is just better than this as either alignment so their shit playing is NAI for me.

VOTE: yume

[Porkens]

lol

What terrible play of town. Really extraordinarily bad reads.

[Porkens]

*if town

[Porkens]

Because I’m town. Therefore bad reads.

My scumhunting lead to an elimination. The fact that I was wrong is moot. You can’t say I’m not trying to scumhunt.

Nsg is just better than this. I’m not going to scumread her for it. This is abnormal in my experience.

[Porkens]

Shmeshme myamya

[Porkens]

Wtf are you actually talking about I responded directly to junko. Excuse me for not being paragon of scumhunting today I am having to play defensive because people are performática pearl clutching about hammering someone ECERYONE thought was scum. So no I don’t apologize I’m glad I did it I would do it again. Nk may not have been mafia but he was

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Scumchans push on me is incredibly scummy and constructed. They are jumping on me for bullshit reasons and I can see the scum hat now: “we can get porkens eliminated because of that hammer skeet skeet”

[Porkens]

FUCK THE HAMMER THE HAMMER IS NULL I HAVE ANSWERED ALL WUESTIONS THAT EVEN TEMOTELY MATTER IM DO E WITH THIS GOOD NIGHT

[Porkens]

FUCK THE HAMMER THE HAMMER IS NULL I HAVE ANSWERED ALL WUESTIONS THAT EVEN TEMOTELY MATTER IM DO E WITH THIS GOOD NIGHT

This doesn't at all read like town flailing imo. Overall the response to pressure by Porkens was atrocious and clearly forced so ima park my vote there.

You just wrong and your read is bad. Learn from this.

Ok I’m done.

I’m a vigilante. If you decide to eliminate me, that’s fine. This town deserves to lose like no town I’ve seen before. I’d like to use my shot though so I will allow the town to leash me tonight if desired.

[Porkens]

Naw there is a conspiracy to railroad me I can feel it. Scum decided to go he’s on me this day.

1 shot

[Porkens]

I holstered because I thought it would be more helpful to the town not to fungun night 1. Just didn’t feel confident in my reads enough. Just wasn’t feeling it.

[Porkens]

Oh sure I thought about it, but I like shooting scum more than town lurkers so I was waiting for more info.

[Porkens]

So town

[Porkens]

I was surprised as well.

[Porkens]

I holstered because I thought it would be more helpful to the town not to fungun night 1. Just didn’t feel confident in my reads enough. Just wasn’t feeling it.

Oh sure I thought about it, but I like shooting scum more than town lurkers so I was waiting for more info.

Thjs is the same player who impulse hammered NK15 without a claim.

More pearl clutching. Is this performative? Are you

really

that indignant that protocol was not followed on nk15? You think as scum I’d be that excited about a questionable value miselim?

It’s better to let me shoot my shot, regardless. If I get jkd at least I’m sucking that up.

[Porkens]

That is a total misrep. I was clear in my suspicion of nk15 from the beginning. The penguin vote was an obvious meme to kill time until nk got eliminated.

[Porkens]

Feels like rodan/junko had firm plans to push me hard going into today.

[Porkens]

Yeah I guess so

[Porkens]

I can’t remember. I just spit freestyle 99% of the timr

[Porkens]

I never even considered what your pick was most likely rodan. But it looks like you understand I’m town now.

Did you get a result last night as coo?

[Porkens]

*cop

[Porkens]

FUCK THE HAMMER THE HAMMER IS NULL I HAVE ANSWERED ALL WUESTIONS THAT EVEN TEMOTELY MATTER IM DO E WITH THIS GOOD NIGHT

This doesn't at all read like town flailing imo. Overall the response to pressure by Porkens was atrocious and clearly forced so ima park my vote there.

You just wrong and your read is bad. Learn from this.

Ok I’m done.

I’m a vigilante. If you decide to eliminate me, that’s fine. This town deserves to lose like no town I’ve seen before. I’d like to use my shot though so I will allow the town to leash me tonight if desired.

...sorry.
UNVOTE:

No, I’m sorry I apologize for that post. I was having a cruddy day at work and took it out on this game. Should have just been more town and not gone down this road. Ah well.

[Porkens]

I don't buy Porkens' claim. 10th place in the draft wouldn't be able to get a PR that's as coveted as a Vig shot.

VOTE: Porkens

porkens big overreaction to like 2 votes but I don't necessarily think that's Scummy

seems probably bad to claim vig as scum?

Yeah I'd think scum wouldn't be so brash. Especially with an autoconfirm role like vigi.

KITTY WAKE UP

VIGILANTE MEANS NOTHING

...oh yeah right scum vig is possible and likely, my Normalized brain got stuck. Especially since mafia took multitasking. So my reason for unvoting isn't relevant.
VOTE: Porkens

What the actual fuck are you … nah never mind hehe.

[Porkens]

Why did you claim so early Porkens?

I just wanted to nip this “lol porkens scum” no sense in the bud. Winning for me means getting able to shoot my gun. That will make this game fun for me. I didn’t have the patience to let the wagon run on. WILD CARD BABY

[Porkens]

Junko constantly self-voting and deploying is AtE is uh not great. Feels more scum manipulative than town manipulative since I don't think the frustration seems natural from a townie perspective. I'm fine voting there unless people want to wait before we the end the day.

This reasoning doesn’t feel substantive to me. Am I alone in this feeling?

I’m leaning townchan.

What happened to this? What changed?

Can you quote the post where you directly responded to Junko's explanation for their vote?

Excuse me for not being paragon of scumhunting today I am having to play defensive because people are performática pearl clutching about hammering someone ECERYONE thought was scum.

Why do you feel the need to play defensive when you only have two votes?

I don't think you're even playing defensive tbh. It's more like you're just trying to discredit people.

Feel free to respond to these posts as well.

Hokay you get some effort out of me:

1. Townchan. I thought some of the ate that junko employed felt town and I was starting to suspect rodan and rodan made a “case” on junko which I felt was pretty thin so I was feeling out junk hands. I also wanted to see if their tune changed at all if I stated a townread on them.

2. Defensive. I was accused of playing purely defense and “not scum hunting” so I was rationalizing what that was. To be honest, I e been down this post-hammer a road before…a few times. People, especially scum, love to sus lolhammers because it’s low hanging fruit and easy to point to for other players to make easy and jump on. So from experience I felt it was best to nip this in the bud.

[Porkens]

Excuse me my scumhunting lead to yesterdays elim, so don’t say I’m not scumhunting.

Accusing me of FOTD voting is also horseshit because my nk15 vote was post case and my Pp vote was a hilarious meme wagon*.

Balancing all my posts out I hardly think you’ll find the majority are purely defending myself, although the ones that are reflect probably scums attempt to eliminate me.

I will happily eliminate junko, yume, possibly others.

I don’t feel NSG scum here because nsg is just better than this as either alignment so their shit playing is NAI for me.

VOTE: yume

This is where I responded to junko

[Porkens]

Porkens your posts are just fun to read

Thanks made my day

[Porkens]

porkens how would you rate your scumgame

I’ve had a LOT Lately f bad scum games, like the vast majority of them.

There are three or four shining examples of good scum games, so overall, maybe a D?

[Porkens]

Sorry about that one :/

[Porkens]

Oh wait you mean the game where I was scum, town!you neighborizer me, and my team won? Bro you were SO mad

Sorry sorry but seriously that’s one of those shining example games I was talking about. Winning? Good. Winning while putting in .01% effort? A+ every post is a masterpiece.

[Porkens]

I misunderstood I thought you meant we were scum together and I was a bad partner. It wasn’t until I dug up the game that I remembered.

[Porkens]

So rediculoisky town.

[Porkens]

Scum slip?

[Porkens]

Scum slip?

@1275

[Porkens]

*a question directed at rodan about johnnys post

[Porkens]

I feel deep penguin for real

[Porkens]

spoiler alert, porkens is going to shoot me

So it’s basically impossible that I’m really big but I’m going to shoot you.

Yeah I might.

[Porkens]

A i claimed drafting jailkeeper

? Does this mean you claimed jailkeeper?

[Porkens]

What list?

[Porkens]

That’s not a list

[Porkens]

Junko has not been townie either though.

I can’t remember. I’m guessing it was in response to this. I think it was supposed to be confirming penguins reads but I don’t really know.

[Porkens]

I didn’t know my vote was a hammer for the record. Not that I made any effort to make sure it wasn’t or check before hand. Not that this matters.

[Porkens]

Junko, assume I’m town and rethink the game. If you are town, because I am and you will have to deal with that reality sooner or later.

I’m not so much making an excuse as recording the truth for posterity post game. Like I said in the post I know it doesn’t matter now.

[Porkens]

Junko, assume I’m town and rethink the game. If you are town, because I am and you will have to deal with that reality sooner or later.

I’m not so much making an excuse as recording the truth for posterity post game. Like I said in the post I know it doesn’t matter now.

I'm already not voting you, so this is like whatever, I hope IF you are town that you undertand you fucked up and would be limed 90% of the time in my book, but eh I'm catching up to the page meta (which I didn't knew much about anyway a few years ago)

Ok ok cool cool cool cool cool

[Porkens]

I feel so good about this junko/rodan/porkens townnlock I’m going to do a reads list

[Porkens]

It’s a work in progress but:

VigPig
PenguinPower
Junkochan
Rodan
Dann

—-

NM
Enchant

—-

green but like slimy green
Johnny
Freddy
New kitty

—-

Star/NSG

—-

PenguinPower
Dann
Kitty?
Yume?

[Porkens]

Pretty obvious big brain mafia tbh

[Porkens]

Top is lock town
Slimy green is slightly icky feelings
Orange is memes
Yellow is *special*
And red is scum in sat least one universe.

[Porkens]

Yume and kitty are flex

[Porkens]

See that’s too big brain for me you are going to have to spell that out if you really want me to understand it.

[Porkens]

Oh I missed that ok. Yeah I guess I believe that’s true. Hmmm.

[Porkens]

Wait wait no rodan can be scum independently too on but penguin is still town then I see

[Porkens]

The thing is Rosana claim is very good. Maybe too good. He brought it up because he was “forced to” by my claim since the scum “basically knew his role” which, again, too big brain for me. But it’s believable and would be a decent gambit showing their “town perspective” kinda LAMIST but then they stopped pushing on me which is protown so townlock baby.

[Porkens]

*a question directed at rodan about johnnys post

I checked Penguin, he's a weak spot in my read range and he seemed like he was fairly influential D1. I figured either I'd catch a deep wolf or we would have a strong player conftown'd and around for a couple days. He came back as town.

I considered checking Gamma, but I felt confident in my read there. Checking NSG seemed pointless if she wasn't going to be around and I thought there was a chance she could be Vig'd anyway. Porkens would've been my second choice for a check, but I figured we could make them readable from vote pressure in the end. No one else felt like a notable enough choice for a Cop check at the time.

I feel deep penguin for real

you missed that?

Yeah I didn’t read the thread carefully. I usually just scan for my name.

[Porkens]

I don't feel like that's something town ever forgets

VOTE: porkens

Well you are wrong and I don’t understand why you think that.

[Porkens]

Also OMGUS much?

[Porkens]

Ohhhhh I totally forgot that yeah I did. Haha I forgot I read that , made that post, I totally spaced it. But lol you can tell from my response I didn’t even understand the post fully. I was getting out of the car at the store and just dumped my short term memory.

[Porkens]

Also OMGUS much?

I cannot even tell if you scum read me

Me either! Might be a good vig shot…

[Porkens]

The small font oh my god

[Porkens]

Oh it’s not, god I’m out of it

[Porkens]

Kitten around why are you ignoring me?

[Porkens]

Kitten around why are you ignoring me?

How am I ignoring you?

You haven’t spoken to me or mentioned me or touched on any in-game situation that involves me, despite the fact that my hammer, claim, and persecution have been main threads today. Why not?

[Porkens]

Do you think I’m scum? Why or why not?

[Porkens]

JohnnyFarrar = Johnny + Freddy

[Porkens]

What about a Johnny/Kitty scumteam?

[Porkens]

I’m not super feeling a star elim.

[Porkens]

Yeah you want me to shoot yume right?

[Porkens]

We can keep talking about other things Freddy

[Porkens]

How much trouble would I be in if I shot kitten around instead of yume?

[Porkens]

Oh NM, I give you my gun.

[Porkens]

Town

Gamma
Penguin
Enchant
NM
Dann
Junko
Roden
Yume
NSG
Kitty

Scum

VOTE: Kitty

Hell yeah

Everybody below Dann on my list is a shot you could do and I wouldn't be mad, Porkens.

I was actually making a shoot here list. Even if it was a readslist I think there like a 60% chance Porkens solves themselves today so I don't wanna waste the spell slots thinking about them

Wait, why am I in your "shoot here" list?

I meant something like “he knows you are scum even though you are kayfabe town he forgot and gave you a middling sus rating right where someone might slot in a partner they wanted to distance a little from. But that would make it roden/Johnny

[Porkens]

VOTE: starpower

Not maf who do you want me to shoot?

[Porkens]

VOTE: kittytacky

[Porkens]

But yume was lockscum to you

[Porkens]

To me this game is wide open possibilities. I don’t think anyone is particularly clear. Interesting to see how you all read each other.

[Porkens]

Scum theatre tbh.

[Porkens]

The whole alt unmasking thing just reais of scumplay to divert pairing

[Porkens]

The whole alt unmasking thing just reais of scumplay to divert pairing

You’ve seriously got to be kidding me with this. I would never ever ever agree to to ANYTHING like this. Unfuckingbelieveable. *smdh*.

I should ask your opinion on flat earthers while I’m at it.

Wow this reaction is “bad”.

Tempted to vote here.

[Porkens]

The whole alt unmasking thing just reais of scumplay to divert pairing

You’ve seriously got to be kidding me with this. I would never ever ever agree to to ANYTHING like this. Unfuckingbelieveable. *smdh*.

I should ask your opinion on flat earthers while I’m at it.

Wow this reaction is “bad”.

Tempted to vote here.

If you’re actually town here, I will be horrified.

Same.

[Porkens]

Biting my tongue. Guess I’m universal backup scum to some here

[Porkens]

Ok kitten why am I scum?

Sorry but focusing on myself is the only way I can engage in this game.

[Porkens]

Whaddya mean leash on nm?

[Porkens]

1 shit indeed and I already took it

[Porkens]

Omg I will end u

[Porkens]

Dann/kitty mmmmmm

[Porkens]

Right; because you are scum.

VOTE: junko

[Porkens]

btw I am tempted to just town clear Porkens & Enchant

Porkens I think is individually pretty town anyways but regardless the comments from NSG about "tea leaf divining" sticks out in my mind

I think scum NSG would have expected to flip at some point and I wonder if she was trying to stave off speculation that would lead to people clearing other people who picked the same number as her

I have a hard time imagining scum thinking the WIFOM is worth giving up PRs *especially* if they picked multitasking

But what if that’s

exactly

what they did?

[Porkens]

Oh yeah I guess Kitty protec pengy, we can lim among POE and then I can also try to RB the scum killer


dumdum POE

Junko went after JK and didn't get it. Junko is one of those who gets votes cuz they're different and abrasive, not actually sure that they're all that scummy.

Dann is an enigma a little bit, he seems comfortable and unbothered by the double townie death last night but he is thinking critically and trying to solve. I wish I had actually RB'd him last night, if feel more at ease.

Kitten doesn't seem within their scum meta, and I think Gamma was actually townie.

Nm..NM... yeah

Enchant is more engaged than Lost, which makes me suspicious. As does the VT draft.
_

Conclusion: lim NM, see if me and Kitty can get some more town reads/leans through powers at night

But this also scum.

[Porkens]

Having two names on my readslist yesterday meant that’s who I was thinking about vig shot. Except I allowed the town to leash me on a very low points play. Wasted vig shot to be clear. Not good town bad boooooo.

[Porkens]

We coulda had a Johnny flip, a Freddy flip, a penguins flip I mean come on so much info there

[Porkens]

Oh I thought of this today: whoever killed rodan was afraid of his reads and made penguins conftown in the bargain.

[Porkens]

I woulda killed penguine and argued rodan was scum.

But that’s how you know I’m not mafia this game. I know it’s slightly scummy to say that but I don’t t honk anyones scum read of me would hold up in court at this point right? I mean I shot yume for you, even though I did agree. So I’m like, conftown too.


P.edit I didn’t know you were cleared by rodan when I made he list

[Porkens]

Roden wasn’t gated…..

Yeah but you just convince everyone they are scum scum!porkens says

[Porkens]

I did kinda in one universe

[Porkens]

It doesn’t matter I would have convinced you

[Porkens]

I’d weave a web of lies that made rodan and penguine scum together because it’s the perfect lie if people believe you. So always disbelieve.

[Porkens]

Oh shit junko/Dann?!!!

[Porkens]

Here’s where junko comes at me with a blistering case and Danny like “yeah” and then the memes hop on and then I’m hammered by the great cow.

[Porkens]

Is junko likely to think that far ahead?

[Porkens]

Oh shit junko/Dann?!!!

@kitten this is clearly a joke btw, that's how dense you are

No it wasn’t.

[Porkens]

also you are forgettig something I claimed my draft WAAAAAAY before the mass claim, you know how unlikely it is for me to be scum?

WIFOM