Open 867: PYP: SEFD - Game Over !

[Dannflor]

Kitty why are you alive

[Not_Mafia]

I’m sad

This is an autocorrect from scum

[Dannflor]

I’m glad* oops

[KittyTacky]

Kitty why are you alive

Scum might be trying to frame me as scum JK?

[Porkens]

VOTE: kitty

[Dannflor]

yknow it feels kinda bad that you popped in here to answer my question but without any other reactions or thoughts or questions

[Dannflor]

also can't say i am a mega fan of not mafia finally having an opinion on the game after

1: he was put in real danger yesterday
2: i hard pushed a townie's elimination

[Dannflor]

I don't know why I desperately keep wanting these games to be so much harder than they actually are

[Enchant]

Targeting roleblocker in 2 scum game is plausable kill.

Jailkeeper atleast can be reflected by "I was shot, not performing kill".

SO i don't understand this accusation.

[Dannflor]

Kitty why are you alive

Scum might be trying to frame me as scum JK?

it also kinda doesn't really sound like you believe yourself here

[Dannflor]

Targeting roleblocker in 2 scum game is plausable kill.

Jailkeeper atleast can be reflected by "I was shot, not performing kill".

SO i don't understand this accusation.

I mean I'm not saying it's a guilty

but I think in a world where Penguin is confirmed town it's somewhat weird to allow a confirmed town to be alive for that long

[Enchant]

Penguin is not that good to "kill at all cost".

[Dannflor]

I don't really think kitten approaches the 1v1 between me and Junko the way she did yesterday

she was pretty unafraid to get in the middle of it and engage with both Junko and me in way that didn't really feel like she was trying to score town points or look particularly good

I'd say it's probably pretty unintuitive for scum to play that was just because it's not especially great optics to piggy back off my push when looked at surface-levely? looking deeper though I feel like a post like 1893 speaks more to confident town than scum because like... that was such a free opportunity to shade other slots. 1899 shows some willingness to engage Junko so I don't feel like kitten was just focused on burying Junko either

I would expect scum to be playing around that 1v1 more on the sidelines obviously, there's really no need to get involved if town is already eating itself

[Dannflor]

I will admit to some concerns about kitten's slot that have been stewing since the beginning of the game that I can finally talk about now due to Pictures ending

basically Gamma's emotional reactions to pushes this game (and his reactions to a couple players in particular) were very reminiscent of how he reacted to Nero hard pushing him in Pictures (which was a gamma!scum vs. Nero!town dynamic). there's just a little less empathy in those emotional reactions than I've come to expect from town!Gamma

but after yesterday I'm starting to think Gamma's just been having a tough time recently IRL regardless and I probably shouldn't be reading into those similarities. I'm like decentish at reading kitten barring one horrible game that shall not be named so I'm more inclined to trust my read on the slot from yesterday than my read from D1

I kinda don't have super strong faith in any of my reads right now though

[Dannflor]

Porkens approached the 1v1 more on the sidelines but that's just kinda how Porkens seems to play and I have a hard time scum reading the tone on any of his posts

the way the random Junko/Dann crackpot theory is presented reads a lot more "town conspiracy theory" than scum trying to sew paranoia or stir the pot further

I guess if I have a massive blind spot maybe it's here but I also remember thinking Porkens/NSG D1 is never aligned so

[Dannflor]

Dann
Penguin

Kitten
Porkens
Enchant?

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NM
Kitty

NM and Kitty both were more sideliney in the fight. NM more just from being absent until his name was called and Kitty had a really weird pop-in where he called me town (after calling me scum for the rest of the game) and then used me as an excuse to vote junko. I thought Kitty's pop-in was quite likely a bus at the time but uh, I'm really sorry Junko

Kitty, can you explain where and how you went from scum reading me to town reading me? who do you actually think is scum right now? I don't remember you pushing anyone yesterday until there was a fire going on between me and Junko

Enchant I've kinda just lazily town binned because I don't really think he makes sense as a partner with either NM or Kitty? ig I don't really get why Enchant let up on the "jailkeeper claim is scum" push yesterday? but beyond that I don't really have any problems with the slot

[Dannflor]

kinda hate myself if scum is just the 3 lowest posters

[Not_Mafia]

^Lim this

[Enchant]

I agree with cow

[Dannflor]

counterpoint:

[Enchant]

Okay, maybe i was wrong

[Not_Mafia]

Counterccounterpoint:

[Dannflor]

i resign

[Not_Mafia]

My original vote was just fishing for reactions on someone with questionable wagon placement, scum clearly would rather another townie be eliminated over the silly prodging trollcow.

But dannflor's reaction is yuk, immediately starts throwing out random accusations and over-explaining random things unprompted

[KittyTacky]

Kitty, can you explain where and how you went from scum reading me to town reading me? who do you actually think is scum right now? I don't remember you pushing anyone yesterday until there was a fire going on between me and Junko

Somewhere around D2-D3, when your weird behavior around me and Gamma stopped and you seemed very solvy, which I think is town. And I didn't vote because the game was pretty much going nowhere and in those situations I don't know what to do especially as town.

My reads list:
KittyTacky - I'm town.
Dannflor - Town. Generally been solvy, shading of me seems uninformed (both of my meta and of this game). I think the Junko push also seemed uninformed.
kitten around - Town. Activity around Junko seemed TvT honestly, I doubt scum would react so explosively to an attack and attract unneeded attention to themselves.
PenguinPower - Null. Didn't do anything outrageously scummy this game but he's just kinda there which I thiiiink is NAI for PP?
Enchant - Null. I can't read Enchant. Sorry.
Porkens - Scum lean. I still don't like this, was just a bit hesitant to vote them yesterday.
Not_Mafia - Scum. I reread the game today, I don't think this is town NM, NM contrary to popular belief actually plays to win as town and here he's just... there. I retract my "scapecow" comment, he really reads like bored/demoralized/dissociated scum from the tone of his posts. Lim this.

VOTE: Not_Mafia