Open 867: PYP: SEFD - Game Over !

[PenguinPower]

I forgor

then why did you agree to jk me?

[Not_Mafia]

Penguin what do you think of Dannflor?

[PenguinPower]

idk what to think

i think we should have yeeted you and i don't like your hammer yesterday but also that's you...

[PenguinPower]

Not_Mafia - Scum. I reread the game today, I don't think this is town NM, NM contrary to popular belief actually plays to win as town and here he's just... there. I retract my "scapecow" comment, he really reads like bored/demoralized/dissociated scum from the tone of his posts. Lim this.

If you re-read the game today, then how did you forget I was cop cleared?

[Porkens]

I am getting scum vibes from Dann today

[PenguinPower]

help me understand them

[Porkens]

2013 and 2014 seem invented and justified post priori

[PenguinPower]

2013 seems withheld due to the ongoing game rule and 2014 seems to be an analysis of yesterday.

I'm not sure where you are picking up invented from.

[kitten around]

Kitty vote Junko

VOTE: Dannflor

^Lim this

I have a guilty on Dannflor

no you don't

I do, I have my intuition

I'm Masons with Penguin he said you should vote Dann

Flail some more please

Why should we trust your Dann read when you were wrong on Junko? And why is Dann scum?

[kitten around]

I don’t know what to make of Kitty but I think we should probably resolve the Dann/NM thing today. Who did Johhny say he rb’d?

[kitten around]

Strong eyebrows raised at cow and Enchant for sure

Kitty why did you jail Roden?

Oh yeah I guess Kitty protec pengy, we can lim among POE and then I can also try to RB the scum killer


dumdum POE

Junko went after JK and didn't get it. Junko is one of those who gets votes cuz they're different and abrasive, not actually sure that they're all that scummy.

Dann is an enigma a little bit, he seems comfortable and unbothered by the double townie death last night but he is thinking critically and trying to solve. I wish I had actually RB'd him last night, if feel more at ease.

Kitten doesn't seem within their scum meta, and I think Gamma was actually townie.

Nm..NM... yeah

Enchant is more engaged than Lost, which makes me suspicious. As does the VT draft.
_

Conclusion: lim NM, see if me and Kitty can get some more town reads/leans through powers at night

Battling the weird mood of the game with a

VOTE: Not_Maf

Join me, all

We're all too complacent rn, let's kill some scum.

Johnny didn’t say but he wanted NM yesterday > Junko so NM you continuing to call Dann scum without explaining your reasoning isn’t very convincing.

I’m probably going to sheep confitown!Penguin here.

Also Star had the exact same read on Dann as Junko. And I agree with what Dann said yesterday that Nsg’s two posts look like scum on town because I know I’m town and nsg’s take on Dann was very similar.

[kitten around]

[quote="In post 1832

if you actually look at the context surrounding the wagons at the time, there is pretty strong momentum on me and Gamma already. scum doesn't need to tip the scales.

542is exactly the type of post scum tends to make when they know a wagon is going to flip town and want plausible deniability / town cred for it. she makes the same soft defense of gamma in 546. like she wants to encourage the wagons on us but doesn't actually want to stick out her neck and hard defend.[/quote]

Sorry, half asleep and royally messed up the quote.

So nsg similar on Dann and me.

[kitten around]

First townread of the game:

JunkoChan!

I think their misunderstanding of the setup looks rather genuine and not the way that scum would try to fake a slip like that. People like to WIFOM their way out of that logic sometimes, but scum rarely actually try something like that early because it's just not that effective as a way to get townread, on average. I believe there's credit to the fact that both SCRRRDBEAR and northsidegal held an early townread there as well! So I feel good about having JunkoChan as town from the start.

Actually,

Dannflor

can go ahead and be a full townread, complete with a bold tag! I believe the stretch of posts 141-145 demonstrates that Dann is clearly showing, as it turns out, an underlying town thought process. (It's clear that that's something Dann himself valued in making reads, and it's also how NSG seemed to be developing her own early reads. How meta!) There's clear depth to Dann's reads on all of NK15/Porkens/NSG. I believe there's a person behind the Dann account who believes the thoughts he is posting about these slots.

Here, Star similar on Dann and Junko. The fact that I know I’m town and Junko flipped town, looks like Dann is is not an nsg/Star buddy.

[Dannflor]

Not_Mafia - Scum. I reread the game today, I don't think this is town NM, NM contrary to popular belief actually plays to win as town and here he's just... there. I retract my "scapecow" comment, he really reads like bored/demoralized/dissociated scum from the tone of his posts. Lim this.

If you re-read the game today, then how did you forget I was cop cleared?

lmao

[Dannflor]

I don't know if "being wrong on Junko" is exactly the barometric I wanna use here

[Not_Mafia]

Kitty vote Junko

VOTE: Dannflor

^Lim this

I have a guilty on Dannflor

no you don't

I do, I have my intuition

I'm Masons with Penguin he said you should vote Dann

Flail some more please

Why should we trust your Dann read when you were wrong on Junko? And why is Dann scum?

I never said Junko was scum, my vote was self-preservation. And why did you omit the post where I explained my Dann read?

[Dannflor]

kitten what do you mean when you say resolve within me/NM

how firm is your read on me

[Dannflor]

Porkens approached the 1v1 more on the sidelines but that's just kinda how Porkens seems to play and I have a hard time scum reading the tone on any of his posts

the way the random Junko/Dann crackpot theory is presented reads a lot more "town conspiracy theory" than scum trying to sew paranoia or stir the pot further

I guess if I have a massive blind spot maybe it's here but I also remember thinking Porkens/NSG D1 is never aligned so

Quote part of my approach of the 1v1?

I thought posts like 1882 and 1884 or 1886 where you are kinda just meme posting in the midst of some intensity between me and Junko looked like Just Posting to Post

You kinda avoided taking a side until you town read both of us in 1911 without much substantiation or trying to defuse the fight

it rubbed me the wrong way

[Dannflor]

but I think the way you just

absolutely shit on NSG's read in 137 is so unlikely to come from scum buddies especially that early in the game

like if you're scum there you aren't even bussing you're just like trying to shatter her credibility and for why

and like when I read through yesterday with less emotional eyes you just feel pretty comfortable

[Dannflor]

VOTE: Kitty

I think I believe that NM believes what he's saying more than I believe Kitty believes what he's saying

[kitten around]

Kitty vote Junko

VOTE: Dannflor

^Lim this

I have a guilty on Dannflor

no you don't

I do, I have my intuition

I'm Masons with Penguin he said you should vote Dann

Flail some more please

Why should we trust your Dann read when you were wrong on Junko? And why is Dann scum?

I never said Junko was scum, my vote was self-preservation. And why did you omit the post where I explained my Dann read?

Sorry then, requote it, I’m still not fully awake.

[kitten around]

kitten what do you mean when you say resolve within me/NM

how firm is your read on me

I think he was pushing you hard, so that’s why. I’m not opposed to Kitty though. I think that based on the knowledge of both mine and Junko’s alignment and the similar ways both nsg and Star dealt with both - in the case of nsg you/me and Star - you/Junko - I think unless that’s some elaborate ploy to on both incarnations of the slot, it looks like you’re town and I already thought you were based on the reasons I already gave yesyerday.

Sure it’s of course possible that both incarnations of of that slot would have similar reads to you with two townies as scum but I think that’s unlikely.

[kitten around]

Porkens approached the 1v1 more on the sidelines but that's just kinda how Porkens seems to play and I have a hard time scum reading the tone on any of his posts

the way the random Junko/Dann crackpot theory is presented reads a lot more "town conspiracy theory" than scum trying to sew paranoia or stir the pot further

I guess if I have a massive blind spot maybe it's here but I also remember thinking Porkens/NSG D1 is never aligned so

Quote part of my approach of the 1v1?

I thought posts like 1882 and 1884 or 1886 where you are kinda just meme posting in the midst of some intensity between me and Junko looked like Just Posting to Post

You kinda avoided taking a side until you town read both of us in 1911 without much substantiation or trying to defuse the fight

it rubbed me the wrong way

Are you thinking Kitty/Porkens now?

[Dannflor]

no

I kinda think Porkens is the most likely town slot in this game aside from Penguin

[kitten around]

I think that both incarnations of nsg/Star wrt to me/Junko as confitown, point to you probably also being town, so yeah, I don’t think associatives point to you.


I could see a Kitty/Porkens team to, so maybe NM is town then. His posting here does seem to be very different than in diffusion of power, so I think I take back what I said earlier.