Warrior Cats Mafia [Game Over!]

[PenguinPower]

UNVOTE:

*sigh*

[Freedom]

God.
I feel like I should just nominate Bell for the ceremony at this point.

[Freedom]

I don't think that Datisi asking for a confirmation is AI though.
It could easily be Town wanting to know his action went through.

[Bell]

It's monday. Where's your report S_S?

[Freedom]

I almost forgot that.
Hopefully, the fake guilty didn't derail his plans.
(At least, the fake guilty led to S_S contributing more.)

[Something_Smart]

Nah I just had more work shit than I expected.

Tomorrow, probably, but I reread best with specific prompts so if there's anything particular you want to hear my opinion on that sounds like a win-win.

The guilty being revealed as fake does lessen my sense of urgency, at least.

[Ydrasse]

Seeking a replacement for Toogeloo.

[Ydrasse]

furtiveglance replaces Toogeloo.

[furtiveglance]

I have a cat

[furtiveglance]

(obligatory I don't want to read does anyone have the TLDR post)

[Bell]

(obligatory I don't want to read does anyone have the TLDR post)

This does not sound like town

[Something_Smart]

i wonder when people will stop pretending all town hoods and masonries are the same thing

I wonder what Ceph's angle this game is if he's scum. I feel like he's been playing in a very support-ish role rather than a carry and I guess that could check out if Ali/Math and fire were intended to be carries (both have strong scumgames and could go deep).

But idk the vibe of the game I got was that scum weren't that broken up about the guilties. It's hard to explain why that is, maybe I would have expected them to try to argue their way out of it harder if they felt they were doomed otherwise?

Regardless I pulled this quote because it feels like theater-- particularly because it's a nitpick that is entirely irrelevant to the point Math's actually making. But it's also pretty typical of Ceph's play this game, which seems like it has mostly been engaging in a bunch of smaller issues from the sidelines (in contrast to most of the other active players who are engaging in a few large ones).

[Something_Smart]

Yes, but she also didn't fully explain her claim (nor was it really a good claim anyway) and even after she was caught in a lie she didn't make a follow-up claim that made mechanical sense. I guess that could have been deliberate, but it looked like it was a genuine error to me.

i thought

[Titus]

did extremely well given the circumstances in coming up with a claim that even came close to making sense given there was literally no way out of that situation

i don't see why what she did this game would be at all difficult to fake

there's also a huge difference between coming up with a fakeclaim, and knowing exactly what mechanical info you would have as town and being consistent with that mindset. i think the latter is easy and she is more than capable of that

ceph

made me laugh for the first time this game. townlocked

math

getting the alisae slot is kinda funny to me bc reading both of their posts make me tired and not want to respond

Is this just WIFOM? Maybe, but I feel like this sequence is less likely to come out the way it did if Ceph is scum.

I think it's less likely to be WIFOM because fire was in a decent spot and didn't expect to flip soon.

[Something_Smart]

Also: contrast how fire responded to Math defending Titus (with a deflecting potshot that obviates the need to interact) versus how they responded to me defending Titus (with a superficially reasonable counterpoint that doesn't really hold up). Don't want to dwell on it too much but I do think this makes me townier.

[Bell]

VOTE: Furtiveglance

[Freedom]

(obligatory I don't want to read does anyone have the TLDR post)

This does not sound like town

Do you think that it looks LAMIST?

[Freedom]

(obligatory I don't want to read does anyone have the TLDR post)

Just to be nice, here's a five word summary of the past few days.
Many Guilties, Real and Fake

[Something_Smart]

well there's the townier bell i was looking for. its like a fully different person just showed up and started posting, idk where you were earlier

UNVOTE:

I am feeling hubris at this moment and I am scrolling through fire's ISO looking at associations. I do not think this is S/S, especially given that fire seemed to like tossing out easy townreads on townies this game.

[Something_Smart]

i think [scrrdbear, dann,

FA

, val] are town
less strongly i think [

mastina

, bell,

misty

, maybe

titus

?] are town
and then lightly i lean town on [penguin, charloux,

alisae

, maybe catboi?]

i think im getting close to the point of d1 where i get tired of talking and i just want to yeet someone

VOTE:

marashu

could vote

kitty

ig if people strongly would rather do that but i prefer this

idk what to do with this I feel like maybe more relevant than any of the reads is the timing of this? let me go look at what the wagons were like here.

I would be a bit surprised if the top two rows were all town, even if fire has been somewhat notably making correct townreads.

[Freedom]

i think [scrrdbear, dann,

FA

, val] are town
less strongly i think [

mastina

, bell,

misty

, maybe

titus

?] are town
and then lightly i lean town on [penguin, charloux,

alisae

, maybe catboi?]

i think im getting close to the point of d1 where i get tired of talking and i just want to yeet someone

VOTE:

marashu

could vote

kitty

ig if people strongly would rather do that but i prefer this

idk what to do with this I feel like maybe more relevant than any of the reads is the timing of this? let me go look at what the wagons were like here.

I would be a bit surprised if the top two rows were all town, even if fire has been somewhat notably making correct townreads.

By top two are you talking his TRs?

[Something_Smart]

Yes. {Bear, Dann, FA, Val} and {Mastina, Bell, Misty, Titus} are the rows in question, implying one scum in Bear, Dann, boy, Bell.

[Something_Smart]

Penguin's Unofficial votecount because it's been 19 hours

[7]

Marashu

: SCRRRDBEAR, PenguinPower, fireisredsir, Cephrir, NorwegianboyEE, Dannflor, Titus
[4]

NorwegianboyEE

: mastina, Something_Smart, Bell, KittyTacky
[3]

KittyTacky

: Datisi, Mistyx, Alisase
[2]

Alisae

: Val89, Marashu
[1]

Datisi

: Frozen Angel
[1]

Titus

: Charloux
[1]

Dannflor

: catboi

[1]

Not Voting

: Shiro

—

With 21 alive, it takes 11 to YEET.

Day one ends in (expired on 2022-10-30 12:12:34).

Oh ok. This makes me want to vote Toogeloo.

I was already thinking that Ali's interactions with Norwee were suspect and I didn't want to forget that mastina tied them together, and then it turns out that fire helped to kickstart the Marashu wagon and look who it was a counterwagon to. (The Norwee wagon in this VC is also likely entirely green.)

Problem being-- this conflicts with my theory that the leaders were all town. But, and I hope I'm not rationalizing here, I do think that a scumteam with Toogeloo is less likely to make the mechanically optimal play. Though I'd expect that fire, armed with the knowledge that Misty was active, wouldn't kill the mason? Possibly they thought that Bear was the more obvious watch target.

There's also the question of 3 scum in one hood; I feel like Ydrasse probably rolled hood occupants randomly, and probably wouldn't reroll a 3-scum hood, but I'm not 100% on either of those.

[Something_Smart]

I did in fact lie.
*

maniacal laugh

*

It was a unanimous vote for bear yesterday.

VOTE: Datisi

hmm I think this is towny?

[Something_Smart]

Also, I am opposed to eliminating any further Wind Clan for now. Math is actively trying to solve in the Wind PT and it's a bad push, from my PoV.

But then there's this.

[Freedom]

Yes. {Bear, Dann, FA, Val} and {Mastina, Bell, Misty, Titus} are the rows in question, implying one scum in Bear, Dann, boy, Bell.

I think that Bear's play makes no sense as scum.
Bell feels all right.
Imho, I think that out of the four, it's more likely that it's between Dann and bnd.