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Post Post #750 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:18 am

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In post 219, Alisae wrote:
In post 217, Dannflor wrote:can you explain like

all of those reads, alisae
norwee wind tribe
catboi seemed townie from interactions with charloux?
In post 226, Alisae wrote:I mean it's mostly just me trying to get him to spew himself to me. I asked him about FA, Charloux, and Datisi and we seemed to reach similar conclusions.
If anything our only disagreement seemed to be on Charloux whom Norwee (understandably) fos' charloux.
In post 227, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Omg Alisae the betrayal. You can't just show the world my feelings like that.
If this is a reference to the scum pt I'm overjoyed.
Given the metric used for catboi being town I think charloux is town slightly more often than not
who's scum? i haven't read up yet but like, it's me
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Post Post #751 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:21 am

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In post 234, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 196, SCRRRDBEAR wrote:MY QUESTION TO EVERYONE ELSE: DO YOU READ THESE POSTS AS TRUSTWORTHY, NULL OR SUS? WHY?
Fire's posts seem like they're Reasonable Positions which I guess is scummy because they're pretty difficult to argue against? Especially the Dann take.

Val is probably either town or brazen scum who just feels like hammering on a townie for funsies. If Val has been known to do this as scum before, I'd love to hear it.
Do you remember what made you ask this re. Val?
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Post Post #752 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 9:30 am

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In post 251, Cephrir wrote:Anyone who thinks there is exactly 1 scum in each neighborhood should mathematically be voting Titus.

Do we all agree that is a stupid assumption now? Great!
In post 248, Charloux wrote:
In post 246, Titus wrote:
In post 245, Charloux wrote:
In post 244, Titus wrote:
In post 239, Charloux wrote:
In post 238, Titus wrote:VOTE: Charloux

Don't like the response to my stray claim on multiple levels.
Explain
I don't explain myself to scumreads.
Explain to everybody else then? You DO have multiple reasons, don't you?
If people want to know, I can. I don't take demands from scumreads.
That's what i thought
VOTE: Titus
In post 251, Cephrir wrote:Anyone who thinks there is exactly 1 scum in each neighborhood should mathematically be voting Titus.

Do we all agree that is a stupid assumption now? Great!
In post 261, Alisae wrote:
In post 258, Cephrir wrote:
In post 254, Alisae wrote:
In post 251, Cephrir wrote:Anyone who thinks there is exactly 1 scum in each neighborhood should mathematically be voting Titus.

Do we all agree that is a stupid assumption now? Great!
What comes to you mind when u read Val's ISO
it's weak

his original points against bell are phrased weakly like he doesn't believe them and the last line of that post - "What am I missing?" - can be read as aware that bell is town

there are several questions that go nowhere
I hate. The posture (facesit, are either of these words even the right word) between SS and Bell just reads wolf.

also just reads like scumposting...

Honestly even the vote on bell now that I am reading the context around it...

WindClan activity seems weirdge for them as well
They wanted to go after Misty for .
They also said they don't see any reason behind the bear's reads.
He asks Norwee if he feels that he is on the same page I am and here I am going ??? because like what kind of question is that???

Is this scum or am I reading a lot of the things he does as just scummy?
I like this (x1) for Charloux as well
I do not like the rest for Ceph much
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Post Post #753 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:44 am

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In post 751, the worst wrote:Do you remember what made you ask this re. Val?
I made that read, but it's a player dependent thing so I wanted to sanity check it if possible.
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #754 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 11:49 am

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fair enough. i wish i had something more exciting to ask but i'm still picking through d1 rn - i think charloux is pretty unaligned, i think val is really towny, i think bell is town. i'd call your d1 more like town!you as well but i'd feel weird making The Call so early esp. given we have a hood together.

rough ordering as a starting point

tw
bell
freedom[charloux]
lukewarm[val]
ss
furtiveglance[nor]
cephrir
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Post Post #755 (ISO) » Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:02 pm

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In post 444, Val89 wrote:I find myself having cooled on both Bell and Alisea overnight. I still think Alisea is the best lead we have, but I am no longer of the opinion that it's as clear cut as I was feeling last night, and its simple a matter of spending the next 9 days trying to convince everyone else of that.

The whole thing that lead me to suspicion on Alisea is around their interactions with Norwee, and I don't think Norwee is the play here. I've paraphrased the interactions in Windclan PT between the two, and initially I did get the general feeling that during the directed, step-by-step questioning of Norwee trying to elicit reads on certain players based on specific posts that Norwee was being slightly evasive; it was clear the two of them were having a thing together, and I wasn't surprised to see Norwee first on the list of Alisea's read list, for "norwee wind tribe" in . It was when pushed by Dann to articulate that exactly that meant that I saw Alisea give an answer in that did not gybe with what I was seeing in Windclan.

I think Alisea gave a townread on Norwee as a consequence of what they thought (and are probably correct about) was a successful pocket attempt in Windclan, and wasn't expecting to be made to justify it as far as they were asked to. I understand if you aren't privy to that clan chat, it's difficult to make an assessment on the issue - but I am reasonably confident is saying that I don't see Alisea and Norwee being scum together, and Alisea has given me a lot more to be concerned about that Norwee has.
think this kind of post is quite rare if val's interaction with alisae is s/s
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Post Post #756 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2022 11:34 am

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hmm did you work out how the junko lim went through, by any chance?
i probably owe some flipped scum some ISO reads
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Post Post #757 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:46 pm

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sorry for vca (i'm not really sorry, i'll never learn.) just working through some non-cephrir things to keep an eye on

do you make much of the middling wagon against nor on d1, then the dramatic shift to mastina at the 11th hour? it seems pretty ill motivated looking at flips

Spoiler: sample 1
In post 1524, Ydrasse wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1.8[5]
mastina
:
Alisae
, NorwegianboyEE,
Shiro
, Dannflor,
fireisredsir

[4]
Datisi
:
Frozen Angel
,
SCRRRDBEAR
,
PenguinPower
, Bell
[3]
NorwegianboyEE
:
mastina
, Something_Smart,
KittyTacky

[3]
KittyTacky
:
Mistyx
, Cephrir, Charloux
[2]
PenguinPower
:
Datisi
,
catboi

[2]
Alisae
: Val89,
Marashu


[2]
Not Voting
:
T3
,
Titus




With 21 alive, it takes 11 to eliminate.
In post 1661, Ydrasse wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1.9[8]
mastina
:
Shiro
, Dannflor,
fireisredsir
, Val89, Bell,
PenguinPower
, NorwegianboyEE,
Alisae

[3]
NorwegianboyEE
:
mastina
, Something_Smart,
KittyTacky

[2]
T3
:
Marashu
, Cephrir
[2]
KittyTacky
:
Mistyx
,
Charloux

[2]
PenguinPower
:
Datisi
,
catboi

[1]
Datisi
:
SCRRRDBEAR

[1]
Bell
:
Frozen Angel


[2]
Not Voting
:
T3
,
Titus




With 21 alive, it takes 11 to eliminate.
In post 1822, Ydrasse wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1.10[9]
mastina
:
Shiro
, Dannflor,
fireisredsir
, Val89, Bell,
PenguinPower
, NorwegianboyEE,
Alisae
,
Charloux

[3]
NorwegianboyEE
:
mastina
, Something_Smart,
KittyTacky

[3]
T3
:
Marashu
, Cephrir,
Mistyx

[2]
KittyTacky
:
catboi
,
Datisi

[1]
Datisi
:
SCRRRDBEAR

[1]
Bell
:
Frozen Angel


[2]
Not Voting
:
T3
,
Titus




With 21 alive, it takes 11 to eliminate.



if you'll indulge me for a moment, i've marked myself + bell/val (who i independently would be pretty surprised by their being scum). given how many people on the final mastina wagon are still alive, i guess i'm a bit more apprehensive of nor. haven't decided if routine survivalism or like, just a thing he can get away with :P


Spoiler: sample 2
In post 1524, Ydrasse wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1.8[5]
mastina
:
Alisae
, NorwegianboyEE,
Shiro
,
Dannflor
,
fireisredsir

[4]
Datisi
:
Frozen Angel
,
SCRRRDBEAR
,
PenguinPower
,
Bell

[3]
NorwegianboyEE
:
mastina
, Something_Smart,
KittyTacky

[3]
KittyTacky
:
Mistyx
, Cephrir, Charloux
[2]
PenguinPower
:
Datisi
,
catboi

[2]
Alisae
:
Val89
,
Marashu


[2]
Not Voting
:
T3
,
Titus




With 21 alive, it takes 11 to eliminate.
In post 1661, Ydrasse wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1.9[8]
mastina
:
Shiro
,
Dannflor
,
fireisredsir
,
Val89
,
Bell
,
PenguinPower
, NorwegianboyEE,
Alisae

[3]
NorwegianboyEE
:
mastina
, Something_Smart,
KittyTacky

[2]
T3
:
Marashu
, Cephrir
[2]
KittyTacky
:
Mistyx
,
Charloux

[2]
PenguinPower
:
Datisi
,
catboi

[1]
Datisi
:
SCRRRDBEAR

[1]
Bell
:
Frozen Angel


[2]
Not Voting
:
T3
,
Titus




With 21 alive, it takes 11 to eliminate.
In post 1822, Ydrasse wrote:
VOTE COUNT 1.10[9]
mastina
:
Shiro
,
Dannflor
,
fireisredsir
,
Val89
,
Bell
,
PenguinPower
, NorwegianboyEE,
Alisae
,
Charloux

[3]
NorwegianboyEE
:
mastina
, Something_Smart,
KittyTacky

[3]
T3
:
Marashu
, Cephrir,
Mistyx

[2]
KittyTacky
:
catboi
,
Datisi

[1]
Datisi
:
SCRRRDBEAR

[1]
Bell
:
Frozen Angel


[2]
Not Voting
:
T3
,
Titus




With 21 alive, it takes 11 to eliminate.
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Post Post #758 (ISO) » Mon Dec 12, 2022 12:57 pm

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In post 3139, Ydrasse wrote:
FINAL VOTE COUNT[10]
T3
:
Titus
,
KittyTacky
, Dannflor,
Datisi
, NorwegianboyEE,
Charloux
,
Mistyx
,
Marashu
,
Enchant
,
SCRRRDBEAR

[3]
Titus
: Cephrir,
PenguinPower
,
fireisredsir

[2]
KittyTacky
: Something_Smart, Bell
[1]
Alisae
: Val89
[1]
Charloux
:
catboi

[1]
Mistyx
:
T3


[1]
Not voting
:
Alisae
there are 0-1 T3 bussers on-wagon :!:
In post 4014, Ydrasse wrote:
FINAL VOTE COUNT[9]
Titus
:
PenguinPower
, Cephrir, Nero Cain,
fireisredsir
,
SCRRRDBEAR
,
KittyTacky
,
MathBlade
,
Enchant
,
Bell

[2]
PenguinPower
:
Titus
, Toogeloo
[1]
KittyTacky
: Something_Smart
[1]
flow trap
:
Datisi

[1]
Mistyx
: Dannflor

[3]
Not voting
: boy next door,
flow trap
,
Mistyx
boy next door = val
nero = freedom, who i think is probably town
cephrir i'm very :?: about
this is a dark wagon either way
In post 4243, Ydrasse wrote:
FINAL VOTE COUNT[8]
MathBlade
:
SCRRRDBEAR
,
Mistyx
,
PenguinPower
, Freedom,
flow trap
, Bell,
Enchant
,
MathBlade

[1]
Datisi
: Cephrir

[6]
Not voting
:
Datisi
, Toogeloo, Dannflor,
fireisredsir
, Something_Smart, boy next door
mechanical guilty i assume.
In post 4390, Ydrasse wrote:
FINAL VOTE COUNT[7]
fireisredsir
:
Mistyx
, Bell, Freedom, Cephrir, Dannflor,
PenguinPower
,
Datisi

[1]
boy next door
:
SCRRRDBEAR

[1]
Cephrir
:
fireisredsir


[4]
Not voting
:
flow trap
, Toogeloo, Something_Smart, boy next door
0-1 bussers again - if there's a busser i think it's cephrir?
In post 4908, Ydrasse wrote:
FINAL VOTE COUNT[6]
Datisi
:
SCRRRDBEAR
, Something_Smart,
flow trap
,
PenguinPower
, Lukewarm, Dannflor
[1]
Freedom
: Cephrir
[1]
Lukewarm
:
Datisi

[1]
flow trap
: Freedom

[2]
Not voting
: furtiveglance, Bell
luke = boy next door
In post 5263, Ydrasse wrote:
FINAL VOTE COUNT[5]
JunkoChan
: Lukewarm, Freedom, Bell,
JunkoChan
, Cephrir
[1]
Dannflor
: furtiveglance

[2]
Not voting
: Dannflor, Something_Smart



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Post Post #759 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:03 am

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How confident are you that Luke's slot is town?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #760 (ISO) » Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:06 am

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Not very.
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