Rolling Realms (Game 1, Round 3) -- Hop in at any time!

[Farren]

Just to clarify, before I look at any spoilers:
- Roll are the dice you're rolling.
- Move is the move you're making, as you are also playing in this game.

Is that correct?

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 1, text

3,2:

3 - Society, middle row, middle slot.
2 - Wingspan, left set, left slot.

Spoiler: Farren / Move 1, Graphics

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 2, text

Prior Inventory: 1 Pumpkin
Stars: 0
(3,4)

4 - Wingspan, middle row, left slot. (+1 coin)
3 - The Society, middle row, right slot.

Spoiler: Farren / Move 2, graphics

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 3, text

Prior inventory: 1 pumpkin, 1 coin
(5,4)

4 - The Society, middle row, left slot. (+1 pumpkin, +1 heart, +1 coin.)
5 - Wingspan, right row, left slot. (+1 heart)

Spoiler: Farren / Move 3, graphics

Will work on more moves later.

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 4, text

Pumpkins: 2
Hearts: 2
Coins: 2

(1,3)

3 - Wingspan, left row, middle slot. (+1 coin)
1 - The Society, bottom row, rightmost slot.

Spoiler: Farren / Move 4, graphics

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 5, text

Pumpkins: 2
Hearts: 2
Coins: 3

(2,4)

4 - Society, top row, right slot. (+1 star)
2 - Wingspan, left row, right slot (+2 stars)

Spoiler: Farren / Move 5, graphics

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 6, text

Stars: 3
Pumpkins: 2
Hearts: 2
Coins: 3

(5,2)

Spend one coin: create a die with value 1.

(-1 coin)
5 - Wingspan, right row, middle slot (+1 pumpkin)
2 - Society, bottom row, second slot from the left. (+1 star)
1 - Between Two Cities, left castle, bottom-right slot.

Spoiler: Farren / Move 6, graphics

[Farren]

(note: I've been referring to Between Two Castles as Between Two Cities. For this round, if I said Between Two Cities, I meant Between Two Castles. Graphics should be correct.)

Spoiler: Farren / Move 7, text

Stars: 4
Pumpkins: 3
Hearts: 2
Coins: 2

(4,3)

Spend one coin: create a die with value 1.

(-1 coin)
4 - Wingspan, middle row, middle slot (+1 heart)
3 - Between Two Castles, left castle, right slot. (+2 hearts)
1 - Society, bottom row, rightmost slot (+1 star)

Spoiler: Farren / Move 7, graphics

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 8, text

Stars: 5
Pumpkins: 3
Hearts: 5
Coins: 1

(3,2)

Spend three hearts to create a copy of the 3.

(-3 hearts)

Spend two pumpkins to adjust the copied die by +1, making it a 4.

(-2 pumpkins)

4 - Wingspan, middle row, right slot. (+2 stars)
3 - Between Two Castles, left castle, bottom-left slot. (+1 star, +1 pumpkin)
2 - Society, bottom row, leftmost slot. (+1 star, 2 pumpkins, +1 heart, +1 coin)

Spoiler: Farren / Move 8, graphics

[Farren]

Spoiler: oops. Mod ruling needed.

So I just figured out that I misread Between Two Castles. I thought it worked like the Society; it's the opposite. Numbers have to start high and go down as they go up, and I did it backwards. So that means my move in turn 7 on Between Two Castles was illegal. (And my move on turn 6 basically screwed the column up badly.)

How should I handle this?

- I'd propose moving the 3 in the right slot to a different slot, while trying to keep it as close as possible to the original move. One slot to the left would be my immediate thought - that would be legal, and not particularly advantageous.
- I'd keep the move made Turn 8 exactly as it stands - it's still legal, even accounting for the -2 hearts from not filling the column in turn 7.

Your thoughts?

[Farren]

Reminder that my Between Two Castles layout changed due to correcting the illegal move from before.

This has two possible moves listed; the first may not be legal (for reasons that have nothing to do with the above note). If it is legal, I'm doing the first set; if it's not legal, I'm doing the second set. Will hold on doing the graphics until I get confirmation.

Spoiler: Farren / Move 8, text

Pumpkins: 4
Hearts: 1
Coins: 2

Rolled dice: 4,3

First: spend two coins to create a 4. (Rolled dice add up to 7, so coins can copy an existing die. Dice available: 4,4,3. Coins available: 0)
Second: spend two pumpkins to turn the copied 4 into a 5. (Dice available: 5,4,3. Pumpkins: 2)
Third: use the 5 on The Society, top row, left slot. (+2 stars, +1 heart, +1 coin. Stars: 11. Hearts: 2. Coins: 1. Dice left: 4,3)
Fourth: spend one coin to create a 1. (Dice available: 4,3,1. Coins: 0)
Fifth: use the 1 on Between Two Castles, left castle, top row, only slot. (+1 star, +2 pumpkins. Stars: 12. Pumpkins: 4. Dice left: 4,3)
Sixth: spend four pumpkins to turn the 4 into a 6. (Dice available: 6,3. Pumpkins: 0)
Seventh: use the 6 on Wingspan, right row, right slot. (+2 stars. Stars: 14.)
Eighth: I cannot legally use the 3, as I've put dice in all three areas and have no pumpkins remaining to break that rule. Trade the 3 for a heart. (+1 heart. Hearts: 3.)


If this is illegal due to putting myself in a position where I couldn't use the 3, make the following changes:
1st - skip this step.
2nd - Change the rolled die instead of the copied die.
3rd/4th/5th - no change
6th - skip this step.
7th: Use the 3 on Wingspan, right row, right slot. (+1 star)
8th - skip.

Results in one less star due to not hitting the 16 total in Wingspan and one less heart due to not having a leftover die, but saves 2 coins and 4 pumpkins.

[Farren]

(that should be move 9, not move 8.)

[Farren]

Just to clarify: the two possible moves listed both abide by your earlier ruling, with the 3 moved over to a legal area. (In fact, they both depend on this ruling; if we're switching to "Just roll with it" I'll have to redo Move 9, as it is then *definitely* illegal.) It's more based on a rules question than anything:

- Normally, you can't use two dice in the same area, unless you use the 3-pumpkin power.
- Hearts and coins let you create dice. Doing this does not let you violate the above rule (unless doing so in conjunction with the 3-pumpkin power).

The question is: can you create multiple dice with coins and/or hearts and thus put yourself in a situation where you can't legally use one of the rolled dice? The rules do mention a case covering "if you have a die you can't use" but the spirit of the rules seems to indicate it's intended as a consolation prize for bad luck and shouldn't be used often.

If the answer is "Yes, that's legal," then my first moveset (which does this) is the one I want to do.
If the answer is "No, that's not legal," then my second moveset (which does not do this) will be the one I use.

Hopefully that's clear.

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 1

(5,5)
5: Euphoria, both 5s (paired can knock out both at cost of one die) (+2 stars)
5: Tapestry - L block with vertex in the upper-left corner of the map. (+1 pumpkin)

Between Two Cities - 0 stars
-	-	-
-	-	-
-	-	-

Euphoria - 2 stars
1	2	||	1	2
3	4	||	3	4
X	6	||	X	6

Tapestry - 0 stars
5	5	5	-	-	X
5	X	-	-	-	-
5	-	X	-	-	-
-	-	-	-	-	X
-	-	-	-	-	-
X	-	-	X	-	-

Stars: 2
Pumpkins: 1
Hearts: 0
Coins: 0

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 2

Stars: 2
Pumpkins: 1
Hearts: 0
Coins: 0

(6,2)
6: Tapestry - one corner in the third row between the 5 and the X.
2: Euphoria - left 2. (+1 star)

Between Two Cities - 0 stars
-	-	-
-	-	-
-	-	-

Euphoria - 3 stars
1	X	||	1	2
3	4	||	3	4
X	6	||	X	6

Tapestry - 0 stars
5	5	5	-	-	X
5	X	-	-	-	-
5	6	X	-	-	-
-	6	6	-	-	X
-	6	6	6	-	-
X	-	-	X	-	-

Stars: 3
Pumpkins: 1
Hearts: 0
Coins: 0

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 3

Stars: 3
Pumpkins: 1
Hearts: 0
Coins: 0

(3,4)

3: Euphoria, left 3. (+1 star)
4: Tapestry, T-block pointing into the crevice on the second row between the 5/X/X. (+1 heart)

Between Two Cities - 0 stars
-	-	-
-	-	-
-	-	-

Euphoria - 4 stars
1	X	||	1	2
X	4	||	3	4
X	6	||	X	6

Tapestry - 0 stars
5	5	5	4	-	X
5	X	4	4	-	-
5	6	X	4	-	-
-	6	6	-	-	X
-	6	6	6	-	-
X	-	-	X	-	-

Stars: 4
Pumpkins: 1
Hearts: 1
Coins: 0

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 4

Stars: 4
Pumpkins: 1
Hearts: 1
Coins: 0

(2,5)

5: Between Two Cities, upper-left corner.
2: Tapestry, leftmost column (only available space) (+1 coin)

Between Two Cities - 0 stars
5	-	-
-	-	-
-	-	-

Euphoria - 4 stars
1	X	||	1	2
X	4	||	3	4
X	6	||	X	6

Tapestry - 0 stars
5	5	5	4	-	X
5	X	4	4	-	-
5	6	X	4	-	-
2	6	6	-	-	X
2	6	6	6	-	-
X	-	-	X	-	-

Stars: 4
Pumpkins: 1
Hearts: 1
Coins: 1

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 5

Stars: 4
Pumpkins: 1
Hearts: 1
Coins: 1

(6,5)

5: Between Two Cities, lower-left square.
6: Euphoria, left 6. (+1 pumpkin, +1 heart)

Between Two Cities - 0 stars
5	-	-
-	-	-
5	-	-

Euphoria - 4 stars
1	X	||	1	2
X	4	||	3	4
X	X	||	X	6

Tapestry - 0 stars
5	5	5	4	-	X
5	X	4	4	-	-
5	6	X	4	-	-
2	6	6	-	-	X
2	6	6	6	-	-
X	-	-	X	-	-

Stars: 4
Pumpkins: 2
Hearts: 2
Coins: 1

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 6

Stars: 4
Pumpkins: 2
Hearts: 2
Coins: 1

(6,4)

4: Tapestry, only legal spot that touches the first row. (+1 coin, +1 star to Tapestry, +1 star to Between Two Cities)
6: Between Two Cities, middle-left square. (+2 pumpkins)

Between Two Cities - 1 star
5	-	-
6	-	-
5	-	-

Euphoria - 4 stars
1	X	||	1	2
X	4	||	3	4
X	X	||	X	6

Tapestry - 1 star
5	5	5	4	4	X
5	X	4	4	4	4
5	6	X	4	4	-
2	6	6	-	-	X
2	6	6	6	-	-
X	-	-	X	-	-

Stars: 6
Pumpkins: 4
Hearts: 2
Coins: 2

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 7

Stars: 6
Pumpkins: 4
Hearts: 2
Coins: 2

(1,6)

6: Between Two Cities, top-middle slot.
1: Tapestry, last slot in the 4th column. (+1 pumpkin)

Spend 1 coin to create a 1

(-1 coin)
1: Euphoria, right 1. (+1 star)

Between Two Cities - 1 star
5	6	-
6	-	-
5	-	-

Euphoria - 5 stars
1	X	||	X	2
X	4	||	3	4
X	X	||	X	6

Tapestry - 1 star
5	5	5	4	4	X
5	X	4	4	4	4
5	6	X	4	4	-
2	6	6	1	-	X
2	6	6	6	-	-
X	-	-	X	-	-

Stars: 7
Pumpkins: 5
Hearts: 2
Coins: 1

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 8

Stars: 7
Pumpkins: 5
Hearts: 2
Coins: 1

(6,2)

2: Tapestry, bottom row, columns 2-3. (+1 heart, +1 coin, +2 stars to Tapestry, +2 stars to Between Two Cites)
6: Between Two Cities, bottom-middle slot.

Between Two Cities - 3 stars
5	6	-
6	-	-
5	6	-

Euphoria - 5 stars
1	X	||	X	2
X	4	||	3	4
X	X	||	X	6

Tapestry - 3 stars
5	5	5	4	4	X
5	X	4	4	4	4
5	6	X	4	4	-
2	6	6	1	-	X
2	6	6	6	-	-
X	2	2	X	-	-

Stars: 11
Pumpkins: 5
Hearts: 3
Coins: 2

[Farren]

Move 9 is going to have to wait until later.

Spoiler: comments on roll 9

Those are horrible, horrible dice. I really needed low numbers ... this is going to take some puzzling, and it's way too late to do it now.

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren / Move 9

Stars: 11
Pumpkins: 5
Hearts: 3
Coins: 2

(6,5)

Spend 3 hearts to copy the 5. (0 hearts left. Dice: 6,5,5)
Spend 2 pumpkins to change one 5 into a 4. (3 pumpkins left. Dice: 6,5,4)
Spend 1 coin: create a 1. (1 coin left. Dice: 6,5,4,1)
Spend 3 pumpkins to allow the 1 to break the rule about double placement. (0 pumpkins left. Dice: 6,5,4,1*)

4: Tapestry, in the only legal slot it can go.
1: Tapestry (pumpkin-powered), in the lower-right corner. (+1 pumpkin, +1 star to Tapestry, +1 star to Between Two Cities. 1 pumpkin left.)
5: Between Two Cities, upper-right slot. (+1 pumpkin, +1 coin. 2 pumpkins left, 2 coins left.)
6: Euphoria, right side 6. (+1 pumpkin, +1 heart. 3 pumpkins left, 1 heart left.)

Spend 1 coin: create another 1. (1 coin left. Dice: 1)
Spend 3 pumpkins: allow the 1 to break the rule about double placement. (0 pumpkins left. Dice: 1*)

1: Tapestry (pumpkin-powered), in the last remaining slot. (+1 heart, +2 stars to Tapestry, +1 star to Between Two Cities.)

Between Two Cities - 5 stars
5	6	5
6	-	-
5	6	-

Euphoria - 5 stars
1	X	||	X	2
X	4	||	3	4
X	X	||	X	X

Tapestry - 6 stars
5	5	5	4	4	X
5	X	4	4	4	4
5	6	X	4	4	1
2	6	6	1	4	X
2	6	6	6	4	4
X	2	2	X	4	1

Stars: 16
Pumpkins: 0
Hearts: 1
Coins: 1

And I never would have thought I'd max out Tapestry and leave Euphoria under-represented.

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren, Move 1

Starting:
0 stars
0 pumpkins
0 hearts
0 coins

Roll: (3,4)
4: Viticulture - grapes (+1 heart)
3: My Little Scythe - right side (+1 heart)

Charterstone
1	2	3	4	5	6

My Little Scythe
Pumpkins	Hearts
1	1
2	2
3	X
4	4
5	5
6	6

Viticulture
1	2	3	X	5	6
10		11		12

Ending:
0 stars
0 pumpkins
2 hearts
0 coins

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren, Move 2

Starting:
0 stars
0 pumpkins
2 hearts
0 coins

Roll: (3,4)
3: Viticulture - grapes (+1 heart)
4: My Little Scythe - right side (+1 heart)

Charterstone
1	2	3	4	5	6

My Little Scythe
Pumpkins	Hearts
1	1
2	2
3	X
4	X
5	5
6	6

Viticulture
1	2	X	X	5	6
10		11		12

Ending:
0 stars
0 pumpkins
4 hearts
0 coins

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren, Move 3

Starting:
0 stars
0 pumpkins
4 hearts
0 coins

Roll: (2,2)

Create a 2.

(-2 hearts).

2: Charterstone, buildings. Second crate gets a 2. (+1 pumpkin)
2: My Little Scythe, left side (+1 pumpkin)
2: Viticulture, grapes (+1 coin)

Charterstone
Buildings	1	X	3	4	5	6
Crates		2

My Little Scythe
Pumpkins	Hearts
1	1
X	2
3	X
4	X
5	5
6	6

Viticulture
1	X	X	X	5	6
10		11		12

Ending:
0 stars
2/2 pumpkins
2/4 hearts
1/1 coins

(keeping track of max possessed due to My Little Scythe's stars)

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren, Move 4

Starting:
0 stars
2/2 pumpkins
2/4 hearts
1/1 coins

Roll: (2,4)

4: Charterstone, buildings. 4th crate gets a 2. (+1 heart)
2: My Little Scythe, right side. (+1 heart, +1 coin, +2 stars)

Charterstone
Buildings	1	X	3	X	5	6
Crates		2		2

My Little Scythe
Pumpkins	Hearts
1	1
X	X
3	X
4	X
5	5
6	6

Viticulture
1	X	X	X	5	6
10		11		12

Ending:
2 stars
2/2 pumpkins
4/6 hearts
2/2 coins

(keeping track of max possessed due to My Little Scythe's stars)

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren, Move 5

Starting:
2 stars
2/2 pumpkins
4/6 hearts
2/2 coins

Roll:

(4,4)

4: My Little Scythe, left side. (+1 pumpkin, +1 coin)
4 >>> 5 (-2 pumpkins)
5: Viticulture, grapes (+1 pumpkin)

Charterstone
Buildings	1	X	3	X	5	6
Crates		2		2

My Little Scythe
Pumpkins	Hearts
1	1
X	X
3	X
X	X
5	5
6	6

Viticulture
1	X	X	X	X	6
10		11		12

Ending:
2 stars
2/4 pumpkins
4/6 hearts
3/3 coins

(keeping track of max possessed due to My Little Scythe's stars)

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren, Move 6

Starting:
2 stars
2/4 pumpkins
4/6 hearts
3/3 coins

Roll:

(3,6)

6: Viticulture, grapes (+1 pumpkin)
3: My Little Scythe, left side (+1 pumpkin, +1 coin, +2 stars)

Charterstone
Buildings	1	X	3	X	5	6
Crates		2		2

My Little Scythe
Pumpkins	Hearts
1	1
X	X
X	X
X	X
5	5
6	6

Viticulture
1	X	X	X	X	X
10		11		12

Ending:
4 stars
4/6 pumpkins
4/6 hearts
4/4 coins

(keeping track of max possessed due to My Little Scythe's stars)

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren, Move 7

Starting:
4 stars
4/6 pumpkins
4/6 hearts
4/4 coins

Roll:

(3,3)

3: Charterstone, buildings. 3rd crate gets a 3. (+1 heart)
3: Viticulture, wine. 3 + 2 + 5 = 10. (3 from die, 2+5 from grapes.) (+2 stars)
Create a 1. (-1 coin)
1: My Little Scythe, left side. (+1 pumpkin)

Charterstone
Buildings	1	X	X	X	5	6
Crates		2	3	2

My Little Scythe
Pumpkins	Hearts
X	1
X	X
X	X
X	X
5	5
6	6

Viticulture
1	--	X	X	--	X
X		11		12

Ending:
6 stars
5/7 pumpkins
5/7 hearts
3/4 coins

(keeping track of max possessed due to My Little Scythe's stars)

[Farren]

Spoiler: Farren, Move 8

Starting:
6 stars
5/7 pumpkins
5/7 hearts
3/4 coins

Roll:

(4,2)

4: Viticulture, wine. 4+4+3 = 11 (4 from die, 4+3 from grapes.) (+2 stars)

Create a 1. (-1 coin)
1: Charterstone, buildings. Use the 2 to fill the crate. (+1 pumpkin)

Create a 1. (-1 coin)
1: My Little Scythe, right side. (+1 heart, +1 coin)

2: Charterstone, crates. (-3 pumpkins to play twice in Charterstone. +3 stars.)

Charterstone
Buildings	X	X	X	X	5	6
Crates	X	X	3	X

My Little Scythe
Pumpkins	Hearts
X	X
X	X
X	X
X	X
5	5
6	6

Viticulture
1	--	--	--	--	X
X		X		12

Ending:
11 stars
3/8 pumpkins
6/8 hearts
2/5 coins

(keeping track of max possessed due to My Little Scythe's stars)

[Farren]

Live by the rules lawyering, die by the rules lawyering. Blasted fine print ...

Spoiler: No minmaxing for you (comments on roll 9)

My original plan this round was going to pull off the same trick I did in round 1 - sacrifice a die for a resource. This time I thought there was even less ambiguity - if I spend the 5 anywhere other than Charterstone, I then am in a situation where I can't spend the 2 as rolled. That gives me a third coin, which triggers the stars in MLS. 3 coins gives me a 3, which knocks out a crate in Charterstone. And using pumpkins to boost the 5 to a 6 in Viticulture gets me the last two stars there, for a total of five stars.

Except by the wording of My Little Scythe, it pays off based on resources from all the realms. Trading in a die for a resource means that resource didn't come from a realm, so it wouldn't actually trigger the stars from MLS.
So I'd need to get a coin elsewhere. I could copy a 5 or a 2 with hearts, but the only place left to play without spending more pumpkins that I don't have is MLS itself, and I'd need to play two 5s there - which would also cost pumpkins I don't have.

So I have to run a variant on it instead and spend a coin and an extra pumpkin to grab a coin from Viticulture, which means not quite enough resources left to snag the star from Charterstone. It still sacrifices a die, but doesn't really get anything super-important from it. That 2 really was worthless. If I'd known it was coming I could have saved some resources from last round, but alas.

Spoiler: Farren, Move 9

Starting:
11 stars
3/8 pumpkins
6/8 hearts
2/5 coins

Roll:

(5,2)

Create a 1. (-1 coin)
1 > Viticulture, grapes. (+1 coin, +2 stars to MLS)
5 > Viticulture, wine. 5+6+1. 5 from die, 6+1 from grapes. (-3 pumpkins, +2 stars)

2 can't be spent. +1 coin.

Charterstone
Buildings	X	X	X	X	5	6
Crates	X	X	3	X

My Little Scythe
Pumpkins	Hearts
X	X
X	X
X	X
X	X
5	5
6	6

Viticulture
--	--	--	--	--	--
X		X		X

Ending:
15 stars
0/8 pumpkins
6/8 hearts
2/6 coins