Mini Normal 2285: GM [game over]

[Val89]

But I guess other possibilities exist. Scum ydra townchecks scum skitter. That just seems messy. Made for this moment. But scum ydra townchecking town skiter, and scum fire townchecking town herta. That seems sexier. Also made for this moment. And much more worthy of scum in this game.

I'm inclined to agree with this.

[Val89]

I think you're scum with herta at this point

That's not it, chief.

Regardless of fires' alignment; Herta is essentially confirmed town here. I'm never going to agree we get to where we get with 4 scum votes, that's a non-starter.

[Val89]

So i mean....sexy? Sounds pretty ridiculous scum strategy imo.

Sexy is an odd word choice for sure. It would be a WIFOMy gambit, like...I dunno....claiming a one-shot clear on your partner, or something.

[Val89]

So, for Skitter to be scum, we have:

town informed macho innocent child ninja enabler
town ascetic watcher
town ninja (infinite) doctor
town informed at-least-three-shot jailkeeper
6x VT

2x mafia ninja goon
mafia ninja ??

I think it's a reasonable assumption that toto survived until after mass-claim because scum were informed of his enablement; so mafia informed ninja ?? is likely. In this world, a shot by any scum at IV N1 could run into the doc save; Math could have been the target of any of the 3 N2; skitter submits the kill N3.

Can someone fill in the ?? for me with something that makes sense with skitter submitting the N3 kill and failing?

[Val89]

I kinda have learned not to do that as setups are not balanced usually in my opinion.

If I have to guess I would go strongman.

There may well be a range, and it might be your opinion that setups usually land in the not balanced side, but I am not about to ignore a significant piece of the puzzle completely - there needs to be at least

something

feasible.

I don't see how strongman fits. The kill was stopped by a JK.

In fact, was it not yourself who argued on an earlier day that the lack of night kills indicated Skitter was most likely not being sent?

[Val89]

@fb Why did you lie to KT about being out of shots?

I'm struggling to see what positive that achieves, as a gambit - jails resolved before kills, no?

[Val89]

It was a pretty weird plan, to be fair. I didn't see the suggestion until after thread lock, and my thoughts when I did was "why me over IV when scum are never in a million years planning on shooting me tonight".

Your argument as to why you didn't go along seemed fine to me, and I probably wouldn't have in your shoes either, I'm just struggling to understand the lie - which came the day

after

kitty proposed the plan and was pushing you for not following it.

[Val89]

I'm not asking for you to list the lot; just one or two possibilities out of that will do, and you aren't the only person I'm asking.

There is imbalanced, and there is "no chance in hell it ever passes review", and I'm not prepared to handwave it if the evidence strongly suggests a mislim.

I'm sorry work has you busy, but there is no need to rush here - if its skitter, fine, but if it isn't, let's be honest - one the points of a fake inno is exactly so Ydra's partner can rush through a mislim on skitter the day after she flips.

[Val89]

What I would like to do is have these discussions today, while we are all still alive. I don't see the rush to vote to end the day at all.

I think you should ask yourself why its turning into such as issue to give me one sensible suggestion that matches your Skitter trying to kill while jailed theory?

[Val89]

What we are doing is, in the event of town Skitter (something I consider quite likely at this juncture), is making sure we've had some discussion prior to allowing scum to chose which of the rest of us does not get to participate tomorrow.

Math is right in that, in the event he is town, he

should

be the kill, but Im not convinced of that at all. You've cleared Herta, regardless of alignment. IV is concensus town, I think in scum!math world, I might even be the target.

I mean, if I am not around tomorrow, having you say in thread "I don't give a shit what Skitter is, I just want to rush the lim today" has had some value.

[Val89]

What role are u suggesting?

I'm not suggesting any role either - I think shes VT and one of you or math are faking, and the setup looks a lot more reasonable when you move one or the other of you to the red side of the scale.

I think you know 3x ninja goons is absolutely ludicrous, to the point Skitter can't make sense as scum.

[Val89]

I'm such a clown.

GG everyone; and thanks for modding, Datisi.