HMS Mutiny [Game Over]

Eiralox · Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:12 am

Ugh.

yup.

I need names.

Effort.

I'll give it time. I'm feeling genuinely somewhat generous on this accrused ship for some kind of blooming reason that has to do with ear mold and tidal synth.

Gimli · Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:14 am

In post 1495, Elements wrote:I don't get three results
I check two people and learn if
exactly 1
is a pr

Meaning you get a same or different result

Meaning if they're both pr you still get a 'same' result

Eiralox · Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:14 am

But Elements that was the most unscummy post you've made so far, If I'm honest.

Am I?

I think, all in all, you're not loyal. Still. Like the freaking parrot at this point, I am.

Radical Rat · Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:15 am

Wait I just realized. Malakittens claimed Miller. Neither of the claimed investigatives interact with that. I find it unlikely we have three investigatives, with two of them being relatively powerful. So Miller probably doesn't exist.

VOTE: Malakittens

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:17 am

In post 1503, Radical Rat wrote:Wait I just realized. Malakittens claimed Miller. Neither of the claimed investigatives interact with that. I find it unlikely we have three investigatives, with two of them being relatively powerful. So Miller probably doesn't exist.

VOTE: Malakittens

Negative utility to Elly
That’s the only real functional effect I see rn

Eiralox · Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:17 am

Why is Mala more of a liar, suddenly?

Why would Mala claim Miller then?

Yeah no.

I don't know about Mala.

But saying the above to suddenly make people trust Elements' claim?

AAAAAAh such a sweet thing is time.

Eiralox · Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:19 am

In post 1504, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1503, Radical Rat wrote:Wait I just realized. Malakittens claimed Miller. Neither of the claimed investigatives interact with that. I find it unlikely we have three investigatives, with two of them being relatively powerful. So Miller probably doesn't exist.

VOTE: Malakittens
Negative utility to Elly
That’s the only real functional effect I see rn

Titus claimed.

Elements visisted.

Elements had to claim.

Only now they do.

If Elements were town, we would have gotten their second result by now. Their 'other one'.

This claim reeks merely of 'we mutineers think it's a safe claim, go for it'

Eiralox · Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:20 am

Elements: I have two Results. Killing Joke is scum

Who else?

Elements: ......

Who Else?

Elements: Killing Joke is scum.

Eiralox · Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:22 am

Killing Joke pushed Fenrir, Titus, Rat, Elements and Passaneger at end.

If killing Joke is town it won't be so weird if one or two on that list are scum, and it's pretty obvious who I'm referencing regarding that.

Radical Rat · Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:23 am

In post 1504, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1503, Radical Rat wrote:Wait I just realized. Malakittens claimed Miller. Neither of the claimed investigatives interact with that. I find it unlikely we have three investigatives, with two of them being relatively powerful. So Miller probably doesn't exist.

VOTE: Malakittens
Negative utility to Elly
That’s the only real functional effect I see rn

How so? If it makes Mala appear vanilla, then the same result could have been achieved by just... Having her be vanilla. If it makes Mala appear as a PR, then there's no milling happening.

Radical Rat · Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:23 am

In post 1507, Eiralox wrote:Elements: I have two Results. Killing Joke is scum

Who else?

Elements: ......

Who Else?

Elements: Killing Joke is scum.

Knowing the other target is anti-Town. Stop asking for it.

Eiralox · Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:25 am

In post 1510, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1507, Eiralox wrote:Elements: I have two Results. Killing Joke is scum

Who else?

Elements: ......

Who Else?

Elements: Killing Joke is scum.
Knowing the other target is anti-Town. Stop asking for it.

HAhhhhaaaaaaaaa!

I'm saying Element's ain't hunting.

Nice deflection ; )

And yes, I don't trust Elements. I very much want to know the other target. Only thing that can regain my trust, even if minutely.

Radical Rat · Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:28 am

In post 1505, Eiralox wrote:Why is Mala more of a liar, suddenly?

Why would Mala claim Miller then?

Yeah no.

I don't know about Mala.

But saying the above to suddenly make people trust Elements' claim?

AAAAAAh such a sweet thing is time.

Miller implies the existence of an alignment cop. We have two claimed investigatives already, neither of which check alignment at all. Therefore, if a Miller exists, so too must a third investigative that receives alignment results. I find this to be exceedingly unlikely. A Town that heavily stacked in addition to scum having a delayed kill? It's just too much.

Instead I think Malakittens made an incorrect bet on a cop existing, and claimed Miller to avoid being checked.

Radical Rat · Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:29 am

In post 1511, Eiralox wrote:
In post 1510, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1507, Eiralox wrote:Elements: I have two Results. Killing Joke is scum

Who else?

Elements: ......

Who Else?

Elements: Killing Joke is scum.
Knowing the other target is anti-Town. Stop asking for it.

HAhhhhaaaaaaaaa!

I'm saying Element's ain't hunting.

Nice deflection ; )

And yes, I don't trust Elements. I very much want to know the other target. Only thing that can regain my trust, even if minutely.

Sorry I thought "Who else" here meant the other target of Elements' result since you just prior expressed frustration at not having it.

Eiralox · Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:30 am

You're believing that Elements is crew here.

See, catch up to that logic first and then I'll try to see what you're trying to push here.

Radical Rat · Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:32 am

I don't believe this makes sense as a fakeclaim. I already just explained why, and why I changed my mind from my initial reaction.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:33 am

In post 1509, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1504, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1503, Radical Rat wrote:Wait I just realized. Malakittens claimed Miller. Neither of the claimed investigatives interact with that. I find it unlikely we have three investigatives, with two of them being relatively powerful. So Miller probably doesn't exist.

VOTE: Malakittens
Negative utility to Elly
That’s the only real functional effect I see rn
How so? If it makes Mala appear vanilla, then the same result could have been achieved by just... Having her be vanilla. If it makes Mala appear as a PR, then there's no milling happening.

???
My point is Miller still affects Vanilla Cop, just not the same as a cop

Eiralox · Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:33 am

In post 1513, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1511, Eiralox wrote:
In post 1510, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1507, Eiralox wrote:Elements: I have two Results. Killing Joke is scum

Who else?

Elements: ......

Who Else?

Elements: Killing Joke is scum.
Knowing the other target is anti-Town. Stop asking for it.

HAhhhhaaaaaaaaa!

I'm saying Element's ain't hunting.

Nice deflection ; )

And yes, I don't trust Elements. I very much want to know the other target. Only thing that can regain my trust, even if minutely.
Sorry I thought "Who else" here meant the other target of Elements' result since you just prior expressed frustration at not having it.

Prior? I'm not too sure I did. regardless, this post was to show Elements' lack of involvement, but if I got the result via it, even if not my main aim, I would've been happy.

Right now it's less about mechanics, as Killing Joke and you have jumped on, and more about alignment, trust. Which you seem to show Elements?

Titus claim is okay. It haz Black Spot. This?

I'm not sold and it's gonna take a whale load of selling to get me anywhere near the giddy heights of ' Yeah Elemenst is crew...... cos weird claim, after forced to claim, after Titus outed and spotted. So no.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:34 am

In post 1511, Eiralox wrote:
In post 1510, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1507, Eiralox wrote:Elements: I have two Results. Killing Joke is scum

Who else?

Elements: ......

Who Else?

Elements: Killing Joke is scum.
Knowing the other target is anti-Town. Stop asking for it.

HAhhhhaaaaaaaaa!

I'm saying Element's ain't hunting.

Nice deflection ; )

And yes, I don't trust Elements. I very much want to know the other target. Only thing that can regain my trust, even if minutely.

This feels like badgering

Eiralox · Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:34 am

In post 1515, Radical Rat wrote:I don't believe this makes sense as a fakeclaim. I already just explained why, and why I changed my mind from my initial reaction.

Elements visits Killing Joke.

Titus as well.

Titus claims, outs Elements.

Killing Jokes claims Loyal Sailor.

Makes all kinda sense as a fake claim to me.

Eiralox · Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:35 am

In post 1518, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 1511, Eiralox wrote:
In post 1510, Radical Rat wrote:
In post 1507, Eiralox wrote:Elements: I have two Results. Killing Joke is scum

Who else?

Elements: ......

Who Else?

Elements: Killing Joke is scum.
Knowing the other target is anti-Town. Stop asking for it.

HAhhhhaaaaaaaaa!

I'm saying Element's ain't hunting.

Nice deflection ; )

And yes, I don't trust Elements. I very much want to know the other target. Only thing that can regain my trust, even if minutely.
This feels like badgering

Oh, it is!

Radical Rat · Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:35 am

In post 1506, Eiralox wrote:If Elements were town, we would have gotten their second result by now. Their 'other one'.

Radical Rat · Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:38 am

In post 1519, Eiralox wrote:
In post 1515, Radical Rat wrote:I don't believe this makes sense as a fakeclaim. I already just explained why, and why I changed my mind from my initial reaction.

Elements visits Killing Joke.

Titus as well.

Titus claims, outs Elements.

Killing Jokes claims Loyal Sailor.

Makes all kinda sense as a fake claim to me.

Could have claimed Neapolitan to exactly the same effect, only with an easier to convey and easier to maintain role. Not to mention one that's far more likely to come to someone's mind during a fakeclaim brainstorm.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:41 am

Idk if that *entierly* holds
I’ve seen scum fakeclaim Vanilla Parity Cop as Vanilla Cop before

Eiralox · Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Mon Jan 23, 2023 10:43 am

the mutineers are a team. They have long-term plans.

Elements is all kinda scummy twenty ways to hades and back.

So no.

What you're saying is "Weird Claim, can't be scum"

Which are the kind of claims I, personally, think can aid scum very much depending on circumstance.

So no.

You saying a parity cop is less likelier than a whatever really does nothing for me, with two Loyal Sailor flips.

You are assuming>Elements weird claim>Crew

While I am

Elements>Weird>Trust claim?> I don't know. Don't really.

So?

Anything else?

Elements is scummy.

Having a (frankly not that wierd claim) doesn't change that fact as if it's magic. Titus, I believe. They're not even trying. Elements? Hanging on for dear life and frankly I'm sad I voted fenrir over them.