Open 871 - The Haunted Village | Postgame

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I'm the ultimate super duper shitposter

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I want to go to a party

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I don't see it

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I bet you've never played with me before

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anyway back to shit posting

gimli pour one for me

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wow that came out really stilted

im just bored

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i don't know if i wanna know which one i am

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For example in the first paragraph, you're assuming Kokichi is actually having a reason to sus STD and he is not aiming to find a reaction and make progress which is the point of RVS. Secondly you're assuming that Fuyuhiko's vote was serious.

why wouldn't people assume these things in good faith

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im clearly pingu flamethrower

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VOTE: code kyoko

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i like bianco and kaito for town

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well i'm voting for her aren't i lol

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sell me on bianco

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i thought we were talking

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i like bianco's posts

i don't really have much in the way of specifics, but i think the way they are handling pressure is pretty good

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i don't think the assumptions were wrong for bianco to make

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i dunno shit about his list

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i assume pingu is penguin and not_mafia is not_mafia

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i won't say anything in case you're not outed but if i could bet money as to who's alt you are i would

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randomly guessed

oof

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i don't think gimli is like temple here tbh

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but that doesn't mean he's not scum, if i think about it.

i think he's town tho for now

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why are you sus on kaito

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why not

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i like bianco and kaito for town

Why Kaito? His takes are relatively shallow compared to others so far I'd say. And why not Shuichi?

i dunno i get the vibes from kaito and not from shuichi

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i like bianco and kaito for town

Why Kaito? His takes are relatively shallow compared to others so far I'd say. And why not Shuichi?

i dunno i get the vibes from kaito and not from shuichi

So for no tangible reason, understood.

yep that's what i said

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ok now i want to get accused of seesawing who do i vote to do that

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he basically repped into a doomed slot that we all thought was scum and he kind of posted choppily and had memes

his posts here seem more reserved and calculated and less off the cuff whatever marshmellow fluff

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sell me on bianco

If you didn't agree by now then what do you need to be sold on

and this doesn't???? LOL

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you DR people are too funny

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"hey you haven't convinced me so far, do you wanna rephrase so you can try to convince me i'm trying to engage with you"

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Dangan Ronpa characters

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I bet you've never played with me before

You sure about that? Also why is this your response to that? What does that have to do with anything? You're automatically assuming it has to do with meta and not refuting what I said.

i assumed that if you had, you would know i'm kind of wacky, so whatever whackadoodle tell you think you've found is probably bad

what does assuming that have to do with my alignment?

you didn't say anything what is there to refute?

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i would bet money kokichi doesn't explain his scumread on me at this point

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wait why am i washing machine lol

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180: I genuinely didn't understand this post. Does what? @STD, I'm not trying to be an ass or anything, I would just like a clarification. I'm guessing it is trivially linked to 183?
Btw, 183 seem like a genuine attempt to workshop, I'm giving it +0.25 town.

fuyuhiko says i fail to put myself into the interaction

i point out where sahiara shuichi fails to put himself into the interaction

fuyuhiko is a hypocrite

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Actually I asked you two specific questions and you sort of answered them

yes i asked you a question too and you sort of answered it back

i'm not saying i wasn't cagey i'm saying you were just as cagey and got tr for it lol

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cool story brah

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VOTE: fuyuhiko

kyoko still could be scum

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I feel like scum are more likely to double down on a weird read on me nut I could be wrong. I haven't seen him refute what I've been trying to say at all which could mean I caught him looking at me for fake reasons and he has no answer

I'm actually not really sure about Kyoko and just want more from the slot.

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wednesday maybe town

maybe

something feels weird about people being like "Kaito's not really giving hard takes" and then he comes into the thread and doesn't give hard takes but i feel like if i were scum!kaito i would have given a controversial take in response

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Maybe I'm just confused as to why you're scumreading me.

Because I point out where shuicho does the same thing and crickets

Like you don't even say I'm wrong which is what I would expect a townie believing in their conviction to do

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Is stiff shit a scumtell

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I dunno what the hell I just read other than I am underdelivering on my shitposting promise

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gimli's tone is off

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Idk, but you are. Want me to take you off and put him instead?

Also, you don't give a fuck who's scum?

I sometimes wanna townread you, wed, but some of your posting isn't sitting well with me

i dunno it just feels a little browbeat-y

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I also suggested gimli was browbeating him

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My 2c on that whole browbeating thing: I'm not being harsh to anybody. I used the "you don't give a fuck line" in response to Wednesday saying she doesn't give a fuck, literally, in those terms. And if I was being harsh, maybe I understand STD finding it sus cause he only played with me being some sort of happy go lucky player (apart from some speficic parts of our neighborhood in pairs mafia), but I disagree with people thinking that's a decent take on my posting. And that's all I'm going to say.

the main reason i brought it up is because it seems uncharacteristic of you

this whole game seems uncharacteristic of you because i'm used to you being happy go lucky and sometimes potatoy but having fun but here you're tryharding and i'm still trying to determine if that's just you tryharding as town at the start or if it's what scum you does to appear townie.

i don't think you were mean or harsh to anyone though beyond the scope of the game which is why i tried to use a mild term like browbeat just to be super clear

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VOTE: bianco

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Pp wagoning and being snarky doesn't seem ai

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gimli's tone is off

Idk, but you are. Want me to take you off and put him instead?

Also, you don't give a fuck who's scum?

I sometimes wanna townread you, wed, but some of your posting isn't sitting well with me

i dunno it just feels a little browbeat-y

I also suggested gimli was browbeating him

My 2c on that whole browbeating thing: I'm not being harsh to anybody. I used the "you don't give a fuck line" in response to Wednesday saying she doesn't give a fuck, literally, in those terms. And if I was being harsh, maybe I understand STD finding it sus cause he only played with me being some sort of happy go lucky player (apart from some speficic parts of our neighborhood in pairs mafia), but I disagree with people thinking that's a decent take on my posting. And that's all I'm going to say.

the main reason i brought it up is because it seems uncharacteristic of you

this whole game seems uncharacteristic of you because i'm used to you being happy go lucky and sometimes potatoy but having fun but here you're tryharding and i'm still trying to determine if that's just you tryharding as town at the start or if it's what scum you does to appear townie.

i don't think you were mean or harsh to anyone though beyond the scope of the game which is why i tried to use a mild term like browbeat just to be super clear

VOTE: bianco

To me these posts don't seem to be natural progression. Sounds like they were tiptoeing on the idea of Gimli being scum, and then immediately votes someone else without explanation.

I bet you've never played with me before

Whoa I just got some deja vu

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Wait you literally quoted that I wasn't sure if Gimli was town or scum and you're wondering why I'm voting someone else??????????? Are there even enough question marks in the world for me to put at the end of that question?

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Wait you literally quoted that I wasn't sure if Gimli was town or scum and you're wondering why I'm voting someone else??????????? Are there even enough question marks in the world for me to put at the end of that question?

Because you were talking about Fuyu being potentially scum, then Gimli. Then voted Bianco without any reason.

Omg so weird that I'm naked voting I must be scum I guess

...in LAZYTOWN

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Lol

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Gimli talk to me about furtive

Sorry if you already have quote is fine

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VOTE: furtive

Bananas

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VOTE: furtive

Bananas

You should explain this vote methinks. Why is furtive scum?

i said bananas. it's not a naked vote so kokichi can't complain

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i liked shuichi's case post on bianco but i didn't like his argument with furtive backing it up

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if im using my magic gut it's kyoko

but i dunno it could just be heartburn

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VOTE: kyoko

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Penguin is town

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VOTE: bianco

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Are you suggesting we just kill bianco

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But how do you propose we proceed then

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with caution

The problem is you could just be throwing out LAMIST language but since you don't actually have a plan to proceed with caution what purpose does your post serve?

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Don't let your memes be dreams

But if you vote, not_mafia is going to appear like a grim reaper

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He will come out of the shadows swinging his hammer like a scythe howling like a banshee as he swings it down over the head of his unsuspecting victim to carry him away to the depths of hell

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Also UNVOTE:

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maybe i unvoted

because i want to be

death

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I disagree

"It's a shame..." has the same vibes as the pathetic skinner meme and could come from scum

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I just want pressure and wagons and I think furtive could be scum but maybe more due to POE than anything he's done

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I thought I was joining a wagon lmao

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I don't think scum!kokichi gets baited into voting me so I think that's something I've done that's meaningful

I also think my Kyoko suspicion is not reactive

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I am 180ing on Kaito and think he could be scum

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I think scum is in {furtive, Kyoko, bianco, not mafia, kaito} If not I'd next look at gimli, furuhiko, and maki for the last scum(s)

I don't think it's in the rest but who knows

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VOTE: bianco

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We don't use that word anymore please say lim or yeet or w/e instead

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Have you accepted being wrong as your lord and savior

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i think kaito was a bus too

VOTE: kaito

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there's only one possible bus on bianco and it's kaito. if it's not kaito i'm looking offwagon.

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i'm always town

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oh i see

i don't know if i think kaito's it anymore

VOTE: kyoko

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there's only one possible bus on bianco and it's kaito. if it's not kaito i'm looking offwagon.

oh i see

i don't know if i think kaito's it anymore

VOTE: kyoko

kyoko isn't offwagon though?

uh

she was voting wednesday addams at end of day

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there's nothing more throwing a scum partner under the bus than what kyoko did to biancospino at the very start of the game, but okay if all you're looking at are the votes

what specifically are you talking about

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awooooooooooooooo!

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he called me a wolf so i howled

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I don't see it

@Kokichi, unless the RVS banter is AI for std for some meta reason, which I don't know, that's the only post you may be referring to on page 1.
Now, Fuyuhiko's motivation for their (I presume) non-RVS vote is indeed pretty evident, so not to see it may be a little weird -- so I guess it may just be a very soft pocketing (or a very soft attempt to detract the real vote placed on his undeadbuddy, though frankly I would think doing such a thing, with that intention, barely out of RVS when there's no actual indication that relieving pressure would be necessary, has very little to no benefit and would risk outing one's buddy, so I'd be cautioned to exclude this hypotesys).

Though frankly, idk, it's not like it's so glaring that I'm convinced it's so. If we're looking at pocketing attempts, I'd even say that Gimli's joking about Wednesday is more emotionally significant to the parts involved (though, again, it may just be an interpersonal meta thing, which I wouldn't know about).

I have to things to mention regarding this post.

I don't follow the assumptions about how mentioning "Wednesday" was emotional/pocketing or in any way sus. It just was a non-game-related poke at a great username on first page of a mafia game with no game related content to discuss.

the second thing is that this post is actually filled with assumptions and no conclusions. For example in the first paragraph, you're assuming Kokichi is actually having a reason to sus STD and he is not aiming to find a reaction and make progress which is the point of RVS. Secondly you're assuming that Fuyuhiko's vote was serious. His intentions to vote is not yet clear by any means as we have to wait and see where he is going with that line of thought. secondly, you say voting for them might be a "soft pocketing". Is this based on some previous interaction between those two slots in another game? If not how you concluded that his aggressive reaction and vote is an instance of pocketing? and then you add another hypothesis and say it's to redirect attention. Why would he - assuming he is up for no good - would want to redirect people's attention away from his previous RVS vote on page 1?

All these assumptions, told out loud, don't seem to be coming up from a game-solving perspective. Its more like putting events the way you want them to be for your goal rather than finding that goal. All that being said the way you caught up on these two pages, it looks like shading and for that, I'll put my first FOS on you.

VOTE: biancospino



pedit. And I found my first town read.

@STD this was at the start of page 3. do you think that's likely SvS? it was also crossposted with suichi's vote, meaning they were both noticing the same thing. no one's vote is higher than kyoko/suichi's first suspicions on bianco I think, that set the tone of the game.

that you think being on a wagon has higher antipartner equity is crazy for me but maybe you're fakesolving because you're the wolf!!!!

she also unvoted and went after wednesday addams. she couldn't have known shuichi was posting at the same time so it could have been a bus.

but it does seem unlikely.

is it maki, then? hold on

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furtiveglance

Wednesday Addams

Maki Harukawa
Kaito Momota

Kokichi Oma

Gimli

Kyoko Kirigiri
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu

PenguinPower

the bigger you are the townier you are

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maybe it's maki

VOTE: maki roll

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that was my thought originally but i think the wagon might be pure

it's weird to bus a pr

but it could explain why n_m was hesitant with the hammer, he didn't want to kill his buddy with another buddy on the wagon already if he could help it

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i agree, it was very LAMIST

i think it's possible and i'm not opposed to givin' kaito the boot today but i just wouldn't be surprised if the wagon was all pure

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i mean speedlimming worked for us d1

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it was a joke anyway

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it was a joke anyway

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id rather just kill the last scum and be done

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i will always look

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easy breezy lemon squeezy

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we should wait for them to DIE first

VOTE: kaito

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Not sure what there is to explain

Either we have a billion prs or one of them is lying

I think it's pretty clear which one of those scenarios I think we're in

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Wait you don't think the last wolf is in the claimed prs

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Ok I guess it's probably not kokichi or maki

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Why not kyoko

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Gimli why is kyoko clear

Pedit you're incapable of reading me

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Oh yeah you still think that cross post couldn't be bussing even tho she would have no idea shuichi was making that post

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Kyoko->gimli->furtive probably solves it

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Scum can bus

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I'm actually a little surprised I wasn't shot last night tbh

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Yes I just picked three names yours included because I'm scum trying to antagonize you for ???? reasons

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I thought furyhiko found me scummy

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Oh no lol never in a million years

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It's how I play take it or lim me

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Tomorrow just think about kyoko

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Ill take a look later and see what I find

Who knows I might even change my mind

Wouldn't that be wild

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I'm into this solve

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Maybe furtive just couldn't keep his fangs in his mouth

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in any world where people thought lying about PR was a good play

it was not

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i kind of believe kyoko today so maybe i'm wrong about her, it was mostly gut anyway due to POE so someone who's really townie is the last scum i think

back to the drawing board

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every post by STD my mind goes 'yeah this is scum posturing'

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=tunnel

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now you're cooking with gas

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what posturing could i possibly be doing i'm like the least townie person in a sea of townreads

if i'm scum i sweating bullets and probably just dead here due to sheer panic

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@STD yeah IDK man you're my solve I'm sorry I tunnel you everygame I promise to try and not do that but I'll think you're scum next game as well. like, this isn't a gameday I'm gonna figure out you're a townie when you're going after kyoko and suspecting the bubbaloo claimants and stuff like that. it feels like fake solving and not a town thinking through. I think you're better than this so I think it's you.

i'm not sure it's kyoko anymore and i never really thought it was the pr claimaints for any part of the day phase once i remembered who they were

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i kind of believe kyoko today so maybe i'm wrong about her, it was mostly gut anyway due to POE so someone who's really townie is the last scum i think

back to the drawing board

Can you explain how you came up with this, knowing Kuzo had a vig shot and last scum is an rb?

huh? why wouldn't the scum rb him anyway because they don't know who he's shooting at?

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yes someone mentioned he was probably rb which i forgot was an option

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last scum is 100% confirmed to be a roleblocker wednesday

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i kind of believe kyoko today so maybe i'm wrong about her, it was mostly gut anyway due to POE so someone who's really townie is the last scum i think

back to the drawing board

Can you explain how you came up with this, knowing Kuzo had a vig shot and last scum is an rb?

huh? why wouldn't the scum rb him anyway because they don't know who he's shooting at?

Yeah, the fact that Fuyu was probably RBed doesn't mean that his shot would have been correct.

but that same guy, STD, is saying 'I'm impressed I'm alive because fuyuhiko was suspecting me'

like what is this?

let me grab a quote...

I'm actually a little surprised I wasn't shot last night tbh

is this playing dumb? someone tell me.

https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=grasping+at+straws

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i am definitely not following

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why wasn't he just roleblocked

how could he possibly know the correct shot

how could scum possibly know that he shot correctly

do you think scum knew who he shot and decided to RB or not RB based on who he shot

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how would he know who the scum is

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rb is an active choice that has to be made, not reflexive.

so Kuzo shoots whoever the fuck he wants

scum decides or not decides to rb kuzo, not knowing who kuzo is shooting

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we got there yay

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i don't like any of furtive's suspects tbh

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you're even getting pp's joke about furtive being a vampire (the roleblocker!) while playing dumb that you're surprised you're alive, when clearly by this conversation with wed you know very well the JOAT got rb'ed

do you not know how time works

i realized there was a rb after i made that comment

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i don't like any of furtive's suspects tbh

Yeah me neither, glad we agree

i mean they're all probably town you sillyhead

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how would he know who the scum is

If he used vig, he must have. Oh wait, yeah you’re right it doesn’t matter who he likely shot if roleblocked.

Did you really not understand this? I'm worried you're faking not understanding all this

if wed is scum she dumbtelled the setup multiple times and i see scum doing that once but not multiple times

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i guess i need to reassess my read on penguinpower. i kinda felt town in my jellies but there's nothing that's probably outside a scumrange

kokichi is town because scum doesn't rage vote me d1 and then not vote me later days

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i thought you hard tr furtive, gimli

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furtive is one of my potential suspects i'm not sure of anything he's done that's super townie but i probably have to take a look back at his iso to confirm

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rb is an active choice that has to be made, not reflexive.

so Kuzo shoots whoever the fuck he wants

scum decides or not decides to rb kuzo, not knowing who kuzo is shooting

What difference does rb being an active choice matter and who else would scum rb roleblock if not Kuzo?

I think had scum not rb’d Kuzo, we’d probably have another death.

no one is arguing against that

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i think im here now

penguinpower -> furtive -> gimli????? -> KOKICHI???@!?!?!?!??!!??!?!

solving the game

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but i wanna look at a certain 208 a little closer

Wednesday - my read is town. Bianco's read is 0.5 scum. conclusion -> trying to mislim.
STD - my role is town. Bianco's read is 0.75 scum. conclusion -> trying to mislim.
Penguin - my read is now ???. Bianco's 0.25 town. conclusion -> trying to hide potential partner.
furtive - my read is potential scum. Bianco forgot to tally. conclusion -> maybe bianco would tally their partner.
Gimli - my read is probably town????? Bianco has them at .75 scum. Conclusion -> maybe trying to mislim.
kokichi -> my read is town. Bianco's read is 1.25 town. Conclusion -> bianco's was pretending to tr kokichi correctly.
shuichi -> was town. Bianco's read is 1+ town. Conclusion -> Bianco's was pretending to tr shuichi correctly.
kyoko .-> i'm conflicted. Bianco's read is 1.5+ town. Conclusion -> bianco was probably pretending to tr kyoko correctly.
fuyuhiko -> was town. Bianco's read is 0.5 town. Conclusion -> bianco was pretending to tr fuyuhiko correctly.
others
kaito and NM are dead. if i looked at this post i probably wouldn't have assumed bianco put both partners in the others category. oops.

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you got me

here's a dragon eating a penguin:

Spoiler:

made you look

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they have good teachers at vampire school?

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Have you never seen someone look at a scum post and try to find their partners

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Um ok

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hi kyoko

i took bianco's read, synergized it with mine, and stated what i thought was the most likely outcome. it's pretty straight forward and it's not flawed to think "why would bianco put someone in their list at a certain point." it's like scumhunting 101 to be like "well they had to put their partner somewhere, where did they put them?" on a readslist.

that's pretty much it if you don't get it then i'm not sure why you don't get it

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i think i'd be playing like penguin if i were the last scum here lol

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VOTE: penguinpower

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i dunno if i were scum here i'd probably be pretty demoralized by this game

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VOTE: furtive

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you're just a bright packet of sunshine

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VOTE: penguin power

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I actually town read STDs attempt of solving/explaining/evolving his reads today

im baffled

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why am i just going over and not ml bait

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wut

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I bet you've never played with me before

Whoa I just got some deja vu

This isn't a good defense, you can't rely on meta for everything.

ive like told you and you decided it wasn't good enough for you

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you are the one who doesn't care that i play like this regardless of alignment

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so ball is in your court

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your argument sucks because you're not willing to consider that possibility

what is your argument otherwise besides playstyle

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yep sure looks like i'm going over

let's not put any effort into sorting me i guess

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yay we got there

thanks for the mod marashu