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Post Post #150 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:01 pm

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Official Vote Count 1.02With 13 votes in play, it takes 7 to eliminate.

Kowabungah
(4): redFF, Klick, Andante, Herta
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Post Post #151 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:48 pm

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Herta wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:15 pm
redFF wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:46 pm
geraintm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:17 pmIt is day 1, there is pretty much nothing anyone can do which should set off a real scum ping.

do you really think this ?


Yeah he does. It's a recurring theme. It makes him difficult to read Day 1 especially because it's the same M.O. every game, but he does know how to lean into it when he's scum. It's best just to disregard for now and deal with him later.

yes this ^^^

leave me alone, i think i am easily spottable when scum later in the game, and i know i am difficult to read so i have standing request to be checked out early so we can avoid worrying about me.
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Post Post #152 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:51 pm

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redFF wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:46 pm
geraintm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:17 pmIt is day 1, there is pretty much nothing anyone can do which should set off a real scum ping.

do you really think this ?


yeah. later on day 1 actions when combined with night knowledge and votes with resolutions day 1 actions can help inform you, but anyone who states they have strong reads/are certain about something on Day 1 is talking out of their bottom.

i've answered this, lets all move along and get this day over with as quickly as possible,ive got things to do
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Post Post #153 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:54 pm

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VOTE: GamerGryff
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Post Post #154 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:42 pm

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Taly wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:22 am
Brickwalll wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:12 am
Gamma Emerald wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:02 am
GamerGryff wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 6:27 amKow has too many votes for this early. Got my eye on Penguin,red, Klick, and andante. Likely at least one scum on there.

I'm at work, so this is all I'll be able to say for the next fivish hours.

Red and Andante seem okay rn
Other 2 idk


I don't like Gryff's post but Gamma's is not much better. This legitimises poor scum hunting


What do you think of
Gamma
taking
Red
and
Andante
out of that pool?


To me, Gamma’s approach feels opportunistic in that they are jumping on this nothing post and using it as a way to build credibility.

I don’t want to answer for Gamma but I think the really question here, Taly, is why Gamma felt out of those 4 that Red and Andante had done enough to be town, and why the other two are not? I would be interested to hear their rationale on why these two.

Until then, like I said it just seems opportunistic.
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Post Post #155 (ISO) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 10:45 pm

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I see Gamma answered the above, should have read the full thread before posting. Will be back on this evening, rushing mafia posts is to no one’s benefits.
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Post Post #156 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:12 am

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Brick
, this is your third game ever, correct?

geraintm
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Post Post #157 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:26 am

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Taly wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:12 am
Brick
, this is your third game ever, correct?

geraintm
you seem pretty unbothered.


bothered by what?
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Post Post #158 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:51 am

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I'll be straightforward:

In , you said nobody can give off a real scum ping in D1 to
Gamer
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Later with , you agreed with
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You followed that up with ending the day quickly and placed a vote.

This reads as deflective because you're comfortable with getting a pass for now off the basis of a real scum ping on you, but you're fine with eliminating another player without that.

The mismatch in expectation gave me pause.
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Post Post #159 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:19 am

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geraintm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:54 pm
VOTE: GamerGryff


If you wanted to get the day over as quickly as possible, why this vote instead of Kow?
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Post Post #160 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:26 am

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PenguinPower wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:19 am
geraintm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:54 pm
VOTE: GamerGryff


If you wanted to get the day over as quickly as possible, why this vote instead of Kow?


in the past ive literally just voted longest wagon the whole day.
today, i voted for the person i gave a naughty point to.

im not sure how i am meant to play day 1 and make people happy. if i dont give ashit i get wagoned. when i don't people dislike it too.

UNVOTE:

you all do you, i'll sit here and make snide remarks.
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Post Post #161 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:29 am

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Herta wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:15 pm
Later with , you agreed with
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no, i said the exact opposite. i believe i am easy to spot a scum in the late game, but i suggest that someone checks me over tonight so we avoid all that because people have found me hard to play against as scum for some reason and i want to not have that happen this game
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Post Post #162 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:36 am

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geraintm wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:26 am
PenguinPower wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:19 am
geraintm wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 9:54 pm
VOTE: GamerGryff


If you wanted to get the day over as quickly as possible, why this vote instead of Kow?


in the past ive literally just voted longest wagon the whole day.
today, i voted for the person i gave a naughty point to.

im not sure how i am meant to play day 1 and make people happy. if i dont give ashit i get wagoned. when i don't people dislike it too.

UNVOTE:

you all do you, i'll sit here and make snide remarks.


Where did you give Gamer a naughty point, and how did my question lead to you unvoting completing?
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Post Post #163 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:49 am

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geraintm wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:29 am
Herta wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:15 pm
Later with , you agreed with
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that it's easier to catch you as scum earlier.



no, i said the exact opposite. i believe i am easy to spot a scum in the late game, but i suggest that someone checks me over tonight so we avoid all that because people have found me hard to play against as scum for some reason and i want to not have that happen this game

oh
you meant "checked" as in a night action
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Post Post #164 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:52 am

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@PP


we got good traction on
gamer
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Post Post #165 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:59 am

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lol gerain!! don't let Penguin stop you from voting if you want to vote!
That's honestly the only thing for you I'm like "what??" right now

and for everyone else, I think gerain seems fine for now, like they're actually here and talking, my memory of scum!gerain is literally just "day 1 is stupid I'll do something later" "not enough info on day 2 yet"

what I"m more interested in is Kow.... not doing anything except talking about my reaction there? and how I'm over reacting, like dude, I've literally gotten speed limmed like 24 hours into a day before (you can go find the normal game where I was macho vig) and limmed very early on in a newbie game, literally just go pick any of my past games and ISO me/see where I have votes on me, like you're making this giant deal over this?? but like, you're not doing anything else?
Kow, the "dissapearing"? yeah I'm used to fast paced games, so, sorry if that bothers you, it's just how I am, literally why I hate RVS, it's like wasting time, I find something decent to push, I run with it (Like running with scissors tbh) and we see where it goes, my followers on this Kow vote though, there was a post I saw I was like "what??" I can't recall it right now, and whoever was like "ahh there's an actual wagon!! too many votes!!" like, it should be fine, I feel like everyone here knows to not hammer an e-1, if it actually gets close, people will unvote, but this "pressure" on Kow? has resulted in.... Kow just "ANDANTE MAFIA!" and that's like the biggest takeaway I think I gather.

Kow, can you please give some thoughts on literally anyone else/anything else happening in the game?


uhhh I'm probably missing something but I think those are my main takeaways, don't have much time right now, but figured I needed to show up again lol I hate catch up game!! If I missed anyone asking me anything (and this is like an all game thing) just requote it/ yell at me, cause I get very focussed on random stuff as I'm reading, like yall's gamer!maf stuff? idk, I don't recall any gamer posts, I'm more focussed on Kow stuff, and I'm confused why we're pushing gerain, like when has anyone ever known gerain to be a super scumhunter day 1?? (no offense there!!) oh! and gerain unvoting after penguin said something, seems odd to me. Penguin is looking mighty towny!!! I don't actually think anyone else is town yet lol most yall just chilling in null, has everyone even checked in yet? I can't think of the like 13 other people... later problem!!! lmaoo

ok, that was my ~15 minutes of free time I had, tbh a bunch of nothing but yolo. This was mostly to see if I needed to flip my vote, but like, Kow is giving nothing sooo I'm leaving it, Tomorrow is my bday so I have to get a bunch of stuff done tonight, so I really shouldn't be here much tonight (but we all know I'll spend way too much time here.... ahhhhh)

any questions for me, just yell!!

(sorry for the long post, but it was either this, or a million 1 line posts from my phone, on the bus tbh)
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Post Post #166 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:00 am

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Taly wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:52 am
@PP


we got good traction on
gamer
me no want unvote

What's the reasoning for a gamer vote?
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Post Post #167 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:03 am

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Taly wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:51 am
I'll be straightforward:

In , you said nobody can give off a real scum ping in D1 to
Gamer
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Later with , you agreed with
Herta
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You followed that up with ending the day quickly and placed a vote.

This reads as deflective because you're comfortable with getting a pass for now off the basis of a real scum ping on you, but you're fine with eliminating another player without that.

The mismatch in expectation gave me pause.


like, you're voting Gamer because of 91? so sheeping gerain? then this post you're like "idk about you gerain" and now it's "I like the traction!!!!" like what? I'm not really following
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Post Post #168 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:04 am

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happy bday
andante
:D

how do you feel about the votes on
gamer
?

-
pedit
seems we're on the same page

Andante wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:00 am
Taly wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:52 am<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">
@PP
<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);"><br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">we got good traction on
gamer
me no want unvote<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">
<br style="color: rgb(204, 204, 204);">What's the reasoning for a gamer vote?


I agree with
Gamer's
philosophy that a lot of noise can make it difficult to sort D1 and in reflection for later dayphases, but this and coupled with the indifference to
Kowabungah
wagon without really asserting a stance or push gave me "active but coasting" vibe.

So that gave me "I wanna poke" vibe.

Also, I was voting
Gamer
prior to
Geraint
, so it's never accurate to describe my vote as sheeping here.
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Post Post #169 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:04 am

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(ok, I seriously have to go now, but Taly, I will respond to you when I'm back, I may have just missed something, but I'm confused right now)
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Post Post #170 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:05 am

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LOL i am confused about something most of the time i open a mafia thread
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Post Post #171 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:09 am

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I thought of waiting for
Gamer
to bite but there's no point now:
do you have any above rand reads,
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Post Post #172 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:15 am

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Taly wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:52 am
@PP


we got good traction on
gamer
me no want unvote


ty - not sure how i missed that looking through the short iso
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Post Post #173 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:16 am

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PenguinPower wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 4:36 am

and how did my question lead to you unvoting completing?


Still would like this answered.
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Post Post #174 (ISO) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:16 am

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Taly wrote: Wed Jan 25, 2023 3:12 am
Brick
, this is your third game ever, correct?

geraintm
you seem pretty unbothered.


Negative, although third game since December last year. Before that it was about 15 years ago I played on this site. Can't remember my name or the e-mail I used at the time so lost that account. Also played IRL but don't think that counts for here.
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