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How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 14, Marashu wrote:
Besides memes, why would the meta janitor leave out N_M?
I noticed that as well. Could just be mind games? If anything I doubt N_M would be janitor and choose themself not to redact.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 18, TemporalLich wrote:
Yeah I believe the only reason to meta janitor everyone but not mafia would be for memes
This effectively leaves no info for Day 1 besides that we are playing a setup with non-standard factions
Anyway, Marashu seems town but this is still early D1
How are they town based on pointing out the obvious?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 22, Aisa wrote:
Kokichi Oma, have you played with N_M before?
Yeah, I know they can be a bit of a troll at times.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
I should really read game setups before I join them
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 22, Aisa wrote:
Kokichi Oma, have you played with N_M before?
Yeah, I know they can be a bit of a troll at times.
Right… which is why if anything I feel like not redacting themselves is exactly in their wheelhouse, don’t you think?
I guess, but I feel like N_M is the type to either redact all, half or none. Not just themself. But, I haven't played with them in like 4 years so who knows.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 41, Gimli wrote:Claiming miller instantly is how you play miller, no?
Also maybe I'm starting to townread aisa, seems like a happy bunny that's towning the thread with bouncy energy
Kinda thought you claim miller either late D1 or early D2
Claiming miller after a red check is too late however.
I assumed it was usual RVS stuff so I ignored it. If this is legit, then I don't see why they would wait until then? By that time they could be scumread and it would look worse. I don't see an issue with them claiming it now.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 51, Marashu wrote:
Benign factions can win with town, but that doesn't necessarily make them pro-town. Some can be disruptive, and since there's just a 50% chance of a benign faction being in the game (vs a 50% chance of 2 different anti-town factions) and scum can just lie about it anyway, I don't think I would trust a 3P Benign or benign groupscum claim.
I've not played in any Grand Idea style games before. Is massclaim on the table? I don't think it's alignment indicative but it would hold people accountable. I would propose starting with Herta (who has already narrowed his claim down to 4) and popcorning from there. Thoughts?
I think page 3 is a little early for mass claiming here. Unless you have something to gain from this.
VOTE: Marashu[/v}
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 62, Kokichi Oma wrote:I assumed it was usual RVS stuff so I ignored it. If this is legit, then I don't see why they would wait until then? By that time they could be scumread and it would look worse. I don't see an issue with them claiming it now.
why would you want to claim miller instantly if you're actually a Town Miller?
that just seems scummy posturing during RVS which is trying too hard
I dunno, if I was miller I would just say so right away. I can only go based on what I would do in the same situation.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Why would I care about looking scumming when I know I'm town? Then again, I'm always scummy.
Either way, I don't think him claiming miller is that big of a deal for now.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Then lets make things interesting so we don't go back to RVS
VOTE: TemporalLich
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Oh, you already had 2 votes on you already. Booooooooooring.
VOTE: Marashu
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 63, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I think page 3 is a little early for mass claiming here. Unless you have something to gain from this.
VOTE: Marashu[/v}
I kind of do, but it doesn't need to be so early.
Now THIS is exciting
UNVOTE:
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Maybe. And it wasn't a reaction test, I just thought you were going back to RVS and I hate RVS
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 85, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
My question (maybe just out of curiosity) is why would anyone choose to be miller
like whats, the other option that they actually discarded that was worse. That's why I actually have some considerations about believing the miller claim
Could come with a good ability as a side effect.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
I don't decide when RVS ends but having actual votes is better than RVS votes
that being said, it's too early for me to provide a lead rist because Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu has not posted yet
why would you need all slots to post once to provide a read list?
can't it be with everyone and them at null? It kinda makes no sense
Agreed with this. Seems a bit forced
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Re: marashu I think the massclaiming bit and having reasons for it seem to come from town, so I agree with you and I guess I'm townreading both you and marashu now
I have a question. I'm sorry if this is too much potatoes but I don't wanna read the setup, it makes my brain cry, but I still wanna know what sort of game we're probably playing here. multiple factions? Is there even groupscum? Is it one of those games with three different scum factions and then you can't read anyone cause everyone is kinda towny throughout?
This post seems scummy to me.
Do you mean Temporal's post or Gimli's? I think those are fair questions by Gimli. So why is it scummy?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Gonna have to agree with Gimli here. I think you're stretching on that one, Herta.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 135, Marashu wrote:@Temporal, mind expanding a bit on your KittyTacky read? Also on how your read on me changed from 78 to 133?
KittyTacky's questions feel towny to me.
When I was reading your ISO for when I was compiling the lead rist, it didn't feel towny despite my initial read. That being said, your push is towny to the point "seemingly not townie" doesn't make sense as a read.
In post 138, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
Just having a busy day. The list is pretty meh and I'm not sure what was his big fuss about "making a list" not making a list till that specific slot also posts stuff specially since in list its still "No content as of now"
whats "scummy mindset" with kokichi. can you elaborate on that read?
Yeah... It was past early D1 despite not everyone having content but I was needing to do a lead rist so I can make sure my vote makes sense.
Anyway, Kokichi Oma's pushes feel like they have ulterior motives behind them.
What pushes? Have I made a case for anyone?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Gimli - Town mindset, which can be discerned by towny posts appearing to be thoughtstreamed.
Herta - Way too gambity to be scum, despite the hasty claim.
Aisa - Good pushes.
KittyTacky - Seemingly townie.
Not_Mafia - Is Not_Mafia.
Enchant - Mostly RVS content, if not then setup spec.
narrow parking - An RVS vote and nothing else as of now.
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu - No content as of now.
Yume - No content as of now except for a vote out of the blue.
Kyoko Kirigiri - Yeah idk.
Marashu - Seemingly not townie.
Kokichi Oma - Scummy mindset.
[Scum]
Also these 2 posts just contradict each other and aren't even far apart. You didn't give a reason for either.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
When I was reading your ISO for when I was compiling the lead rist, it didn't feel towny despite my initial read. That being said, your push is towny to the point "seemingly not townie" doesn't make sense as a read.
Oh this is the reasoning but, not sure. Townie to not towny based off very little posts seem suspect.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 41, Gimli wrote:Claiming miller instantly is how you play miller, no?
Also maybe I'm starting to townread aisa, seems like a happy bunny that's towning the thread with bouncy energy
Kinda thought you claim miller either late D1 or early D2
Claiming miller after a red check is too late however.
I assumed it was usual RVS stuff so I ignored it. If this is legit, then I don't see why they would wait until then? By that time they could be scumread and it would look worse. I don't see an issue with them claiming it now.
reading kokichi's ISO this interests me as well, that he'd think the miller claim could be 'usual RVS stuff'. do people usually claim miller in setups as a trolly way to introduce themselves in the thread?
People always say silly stuff in RVS stage so I just ignore everything in the first page or 2 and try to move past it. I don't like RVS and never have. You can look in any of my completed games to confirm this.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 160, Gimli wrote:
I'm also feeling uneasy by kokichi but I'll try to re-read parts of the game and see if I can write some words about it. I thought it was peculiar that kokichi decided to position in my favour when herta scumread me for asking about the setup, but he didn't push herta for it or anything, so it seemed like just posturing which may or may not be uncharacteristic for kokichi.
I don't feel like what Herta has done was worse than what Lich has done so far overall and I'm not voting them yet either. I just want to point out observations objectively. W-Why are you being so mean to me?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
There hasn't been much content here, but if I had to say 1 person was scummy so far it would be Lich based on what I said already.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 160, Gimli wrote:
I'm also feeling uneasy by kokichi but I'll try to re-read parts of the game and see if I can write some words about it. I thought it was peculiar that kokichi decided to position in my favour when herta scumread me for asking about the setup, but he didn't push herta for it or anything, so it seemed like just posturing which may or may not be uncharacteristic for kokichi.
I don't feel like what Herta has done was worse than what Lich has done so far overall and I'm not voting them yet either. I just want to point out observations objectively. W-Why are you being so mean to me?
What
is
your read on Herta?
I think mafia would not fake claim miller in a setup as wacky as this one. Besides that I have no read on him because I feel like the focus has been miller talk and not much else. Would help if more people talked and not the same people over and over.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 186, TemporalLich wrote:
Also Kokichi clearly wants a mislim or at least to cause confrusion
You've been hyper focused on me for some reason when you've had other people vote you and sus you as well. What are your reads on them?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 63, Kokichi Oma wrote:
I think page 3 is a little early for mass claiming here. Unless you have something to gain from this.
VOTE: Marashu[/v}
I kind of do, but it doesn't need to be so early.
Now THIS is exciting
UNVOTE:
why would you unvote because of this?
Because I initially thought they were just trying to act dumb and role fish, but they confirmed that they have a reason for doing so.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
I should really read game setups before I join them
This feels annoyed; am I wrong?
Yes, cause I never read setups before I join and this seems like a confusing one.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Way too defensive and reactionary. Also seems like they only suspect people who vote them.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Why is them confirming they have a reason to do so make them clear from maybe rolefishing?
Because now I've cornered them into them NEEDING to have a reason. Later in the game if it comes to a point that their role doesn't have a reason for this, then they are caught lying.
I'm Smart huh?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 219, Herta wrote:
I'm guessing you haven't played with not mafia in the past couple of years.
Why does that matter.
Also, Kokichi seems pretty cool rn.
You're pretty cool yourself baby gangsta
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Not quite sure I like this, why do you feel the need to do this? You're not even one of the people who have talked the most?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 245, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:@Lich analyze the wagon on you, please. What do you think of each vote?
Marashu's vote on me is an RVS vote, so that's a purely NAI vote
Aisa's vote on me is towny (I believe the vote was in RVS, but Aisa put out a case on me which has a towny mindset even though the case itself is meh)
Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu's vote on me is somewhat reactive but also comes with an associative, so I will say the vote itself is NAI (the pushes are scummy though)
Kokichi Oma's vote on me is scummy and the post afterward basically means they were rolefishing the universal miller claim
How was I rolefishing a miller? You're just making things up at this point
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
There is no jester role in this game correct? Where the person wins if they are voted out?
I feel like he's being too obvious at this point and I'm not unvoting at this point. He also says I'm the scummiest but immediately went to vote Kuzu
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
I'm conflicted on this. One thing I don't know is that is it possible for people to share the same role as someone that was discarded? If not then it's probably a good thing to share discards at this point, since it'll lower the amount of fake claims scum can do.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 254, Gimli wrote:
locktowning kokichi I think. suspicion over kyoko is good. suspicion over lich I still don't see it but it might just be things people scumread other people for that I don't, so.
I think sharing discards is an interesting idea. but does it make our actual roles more likely to reveal? like, the strength of them. making the game easier for scum at night, and whatnot. and does it help our wincon as townies to share such a thing? I think I'm against it.
Can you tell me why Lich is townie to you at all?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 257, Kyoko Kirigiri wrote:
Let's just say I'm not really worried about others solving me cause there might be no need for it so I'm waiting for more content to do detective work on that.
Your focus is better spent elsewhere.
Hmmm. I guess you are the quiet detective. I'll give you a pass for now. But I've got my eye on you.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 254, Gimli wrote:
locktowning kokichi I think. suspicion over kyoko is good. suspicion over lich I still don't see it but it might just be things people scumread other people for that I don't, so.
I think sharing discards is an interesting idea. but does it make our actual roles more likely to reveal? like, the strength of them. making the game easier for scum at night, and whatnot. and does it help our wincon as townies to share such a thing? I think I'm against it.
My discard was vanilla town.
I know...
super important and most damning information right there but yes overall I'm not sure if its a good idea to claim discards either.
Do we know why they are almost all discarded anyway? I didn't have time to do the setup spec yet
Umm. I thought this was a game everyone gets a role that's not VT? Unless I'm mistaken.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 254, Gimli wrote:
locktowning kokichi I think. suspicion over kyoko is good. suspicion over lich I still don't see it but it might just be things people scumread other people for that I don't, so.
I think sharing discards is an interesting idea. but does it make our actual roles more likely to reveal? like, the strength of them. making the game easier for scum at night, and whatnot. and does it help our wincon as townies to share such a thing? I think I'm against it.
Can you tell me why Lich is townie to you at all?
i mean its a little over the top to be scum at some points, scumreads merging together, wants to do a reads list as soon as everyone posts etc. I don't see a person playing like them and think they're scum, but clearly it's pinging everyone else so maybe I'm wrong. it's not that I'm necessarily going like 'oh this is a nice towny post', it's more a sensation that it's a townslot.
Yeah, in my opinion they are overly scummy. That's why i was asking if there was a jester role or something and doing this on purpose.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Like: Enchant
Like for now: Kirigiri
kinda like: Gimli
don't like: Lich
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 320, Aisa wrote:
Catching up now, if anyone wants to talk
What are your reads and what do you think of Enchant vs Kirigiri last few pages
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Can everyone stop townreading me, I don't wanna be night one kill this game.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 338, Herta wrote:
Temporal Lich seems, idk, confused maybe. I lean town on that confusion.
I just don't see it. Like it's not even confusion it's just scummy posting.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Do you think it's likely both you and kirigiri got vanilla roles in a game with soooooo many roles?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Can everyone stop townreading me, I don't wanna be night one kill this game.
K
VOTE: Koki
Thanks!
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
TL, you either fullclaim now or I'm putting you on E-1. I think the best way we can play this out is either eliminate you or have your claim so we can absolutely move to different targets. you're not gonna convince anyone you're town by posting, I don't think.
claiming Meta-Neighbor
I discarded Extension
Are you in a neighborhood now or is the first neighbor on N1? I forgot how that role works.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
What's your read on Lich in and out of the neighborhood? Are you the only two or are there more people?
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 386, Enchant wrote:
I didn't really count how many pure vanillas in setup.
... 39.
Therefore chance is pretty respectable.
Ah okay, then it's understandable.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
I'm still all for voting off TemporalLich today. I'll wait for more opinions though. I feel like I've talked the most
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Did I not do the same thing with Marashu? Why are you only focused on Kirigiri? I think you just thought we were the same person then realized we weren't and are faking a read.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Saying how I suspected and then unsuspected them both. Based on what they said in response to me.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
But that's such a cool role. I think Snow would be good actually. Rain could out our good town roles so it could help scums out. Fog seems like chaos which is fun but scary. Hail seems really boring and this game already has half the people not talking as much as the other half.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
