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Post Post #2434 (isolation #200) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:48 am

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In post 2432, Gimli wrote:I'm townreading furtive and fireside before the flip and I think they look great after the flip
Alright. I guess i can believe that you believe in it.
I'm not gonna believe it myself though. Like i've said before, Fire has fooled me once. I'm gonna be careful to trust it again.
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Post Post #2439 (isolation #201) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 7:56 am

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@Furtive
How many games have you played with TGP? Ever caught them as scum before?
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Post Post #2460 (isolation #202) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:45 am

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In post 2458, Shirou wrote:this game gets weirder the longer it goes on

i would like to wrap this up today, i'm a bit more confident on myself given my first strong scum read TGP was de facto scum, but at the same time i'm puzzled on why i'm still alive if my PoE is anywhere right

but again

i was right on TGP and left alive in day 2 anyway

i'm not sure what is the scum team supposed plan anymore

do they even have a plan in fact...
This could be very egoistical thinking, but my current theory is that we are both town and scum doesn't want to kill either of us because that would conf!town the other. But if we're both alive then there could still be paranoia on our slots like "Oh but what if the two slots townreading each other are the team??" and in turn make our voice less effective.
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Post Post #2461 (isolation #203) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 11:49 am

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We are allowed 3 miseliminations total before a loss so i'm not going to be paranoid about Shirou unless somehow we're both alive in ElO and scum hasn't been found by then.
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Post Post #2485 (isolation #204) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:40 pm

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In post 2066, furtiveglance wrote:This setup is based around scum not being able to bus.
Even if Furtive had the best anti-associations with TGP ever he should still go for this.

THIS SETUP IS ABOUT BUSSING.
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Post Post #2487 (isolation #205) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:42 pm

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In post 2480, Shirou wrote: i really want to wrap up this game so that i can go apologize and meme in post-game with Una
You make me paranoid about you when you say things like "I just want to meme with *flipped town* post-game.
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Post Post #2489 (isolation #206) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:43 pm

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Post Post #2492 (isolation #207) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:50 pm

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Fine, god.
VOTE: Furtive
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Post Post #2495 (isolation #208) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:52 pm

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In post 2493, Shirou wrote:scum kinda disrespects me
If scum is disrespecting you we can round it down to Toto ultra scum.
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Post Post #2496 (isolation #209) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:54 pm

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In post 2494, Shirou wrote:
In post 2492, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Fine, god.
VOTE: Furtive
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are you angry with me?

sorry :(
Uh no i just think ur kinda rushing for no good reason.
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Post Post #2497 (isolation #210) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:54 pm

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Or well, for "selfish reasons".
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Post Post #2500 (isolation #211) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:55 pm

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I do think Furtive would be a good flip currently but i still wanna see what they have to say today.
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Post Post #2504 (isolation #212) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 12:59 pm

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In post 2499, Toto wrote:I mean Shurro saying the game got wierder is just a scumclaim.
What.
Lmao.
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Post Post #2507 (isolation #213) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:11 pm

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They just said the nightkills were weird.
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Post Post #2509 (isolation #214) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 1:20 pm

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Bro ur sarcasm has developed to the point where nobody can even understand you anymore.
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Post Post #2541 (isolation #215) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:22 pm

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In post 2513, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2485, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2066, furtiveglance wrote:This setup is based around scum not being able to bus.
Even if Furtive had the best anti-associations with TGP ever he should still go for this.

THIS SETUP IS ABOUT BUSSING.
IF YOU BUS YOU LITERALLY LOSE.

HOW CAN YOU DISAGREE. 3 IN 11, AND YOU NEED 2 TO ENDGAME
Not if you carry a dead weight scum team member. Then you'll be planning how you're going to eventually have them flip and then use that flip to set yourself up in a position to win the game.
TGP was never going to endgame and he knew it himself.
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Post Post #2544 (isolation #216) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:24 pm

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I'm not saying you have to be scum here but i don't understand how you believe scum will "never" buss in this setup, that just looks fake as hell.
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Post Post #2547 (isolation #217) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:26 pm

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In post 2525, Gimli wrote:We have three goddamn eliminations to hit one mafia? Or two?
Three miselims is a loss.
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Post Post #2549 (isolation #218) » Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:28 pm

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Btw Furtive i think if you are town that Shirou isn't scum for it. Shirou 1v1-ing you isn't scum indicative you just seem emotional because of his push. I would probably look at Fire or Klick next.
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Post Post #2560 (isolation #219) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:25 am

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This site now feels different and changed, i HATE change. Everything should stay as it is forever so i don’t need to leave my comfort zone! :x
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Post Post #2561 (isolation #220) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:28 am

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In post 2551, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2549, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Btw Furtive i think if you are town that Shirou isn't scum for it. Shirou 1v1-ing you isn't scum indicative you just seem emotional because of his push. I would probably look at Fire or Klick next.
Get your vote off me, at least for the moment.
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Post Post #2587 (isolation #221) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:13 am

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Can you knucleheads stop ramming into each other and argue logically.
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Post Post #2588 (isolation #222) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 5:16 am

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How sure are you of this read Shirou? I feel like Furtive isn't really arguing in an manner that would be beneficial to himself if scum here.
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Post Post #2651 (isolation #223) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 12:56 pm

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VOTE: Fire
I never was voting Shirou today.
Scum shoulda nightkilled either of us when they had the chance.
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Post Post #2660 (isolation #224) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:10 pm

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In post 2655, furtiveglance wrote:
In post 2654, fireisredsir wrote: im worried about the possible world where furtive is town

makes this a loss when it really shouldn't be
'possible world'

No matter the result of this game, I will have things to say in post. Seriously the scumreads on me are next level BS and I can't wait for postgame or dead thread to console me
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Post Post #2666 (isolation #225) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 1:14 pm

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I just think what ur saying is funny, i actually like ur play otherwise and find it to be a bit townie.
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Post Post #2717 (isolation #226) » Wed Jan 25, 2023 2:48 pm

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In post 2715, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2710, furtiveglance wrote: This is my favourite part of Mafia

Trying to work out who it is, it's just the essence of the game

Quite stressful tho
i agree then yea

i think the most exciting part (of playing town, since i usually enjoy scum more) is when i think i've found a solve or when i realize i was wrongly townbinning a scum who's been playing a really good game

i have trouble expressing those solves confidently though because i feel a lot of intense embarrassment and shame when i get things wrong

so i guess the overall more fun experience is the process of sorting it out
I feel dirty and violated if someone i strongly townread is scum.
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Post Post #2767 (isolation #227) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 1:06 am

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What, why would you say there is bitterness and insecurity involved in players not reading TGP as scum in D2.
Is this a fact?
Lmaoo.
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Post Post #2789 (isolation #228) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 10:13 am

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In post 2787, fireisredsir wrote: i have no idea what norwee is doing
I'm voting you.
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Post Post #2800 (isolation #229) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:10 pm

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I haven’t seen a single good reason to townread you and we’re in day 3 with a scumflip already.
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Post Post #2801 (isolation #230) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:21 pm

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Oh and most of this game it’s like nothing is fazing you, which is a bit strange.
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Post Post #2802 (isolation #231) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:23 pm

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You’re like: "Yeah, gotta be an announcer and narrate this game, i’m done now. Time to clock out"
While everyone else is quite emotional, like Furtive for example.
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Post Post #2805 (isolation #232) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:34 pm

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StD kill also seems like a very calculated kill so i naturally associate that with whoever seems like an calculating person.
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Post Post #2808 (isolation #233) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:35 pm

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In post 2804, fireisredsir wrote: if you think that im in scumrange then fine. i probably am. if you think my play is more likely to come from scum then fine but i want to know why

if you think that there isn't a single good reason to townread me then i don't think you ever will and maybe you should actually try to learn how to read me
How am i supposed to read you then.
Do you think you’ve gone beyond scumrange or been obviously town in this game?
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Post Post #2809 (isolation #234) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:35 pm

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Isn’t that E-1?
Want to talk a bit so to avoid hammer i’ma unvote. UNVOTE:
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Post Post #2810 (isolation #235) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:47 pm

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Fireee~
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Post Post #2813 (isolation #236) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:48 pm

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Gimli i keep thinking of the dwarf in Lord of the Rings when i read your name. Is that rude? It’s the only character i know with the name.
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Post Post #2817 (isolation #237) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:52 pm

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Gimli did you think that was the hammer?
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Post Post #2818 (isolation #238) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:55 pm

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In post 2816, fireisredsir wrote:
In post 2809, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2804, fireisredsir wrote: if you think that im in scumrange then fine. i probably am. if you think my play is more likely to come from scum then fine but i want to know why

if you think that there isn't a single good reason to townread me then i don't think you ever will and maybe you should actually try to learn how to read me
How am i supposed to read you then.
Do you think you’ve gone beyond scumrange or been obviously town in this game?
i don't think ive gone beyond scumrange but i don't think im approaching this in the way that i would if i were scum. idk why i would come in pushing tgp when i could have easily diverted conversation elsewhere. and if i was just hard bussing him then i could have done more to not look aligned. like idk why you think i would come into the game with that as my scum approach

i am town so everything i do is a town action and if you can't find a single thing about my play this game to townread then idk what to say lmao

like thats just kinda ridiculous and unbelievable to me that you could have no reason to townread me. i think i've been transparent and shown thought process and tried to solve the game and pushed scum and engaged with people and shown a consistent town mindset

literally nobody has given more than a concrete reason for me to be scum beyond that they think tgp is just awful at distancing

like ik im generally accepting/understanding of scumreads on me but usually thats when i can understand the reasons and they seem valid

in this case they don't. and nobody is giving any. and tbh thats unacceptable for whichever of you are town
I’ve given reasons though. Sure they are Norwee reasons so inherently less easy to understand and satisfying, but they are there. :D
Like idk i guess i’m just hard to satisfy when it comes to your playstyle because i feel like all your posts are samey to me and that makes it harder for me to actually pick a good reason to trust it.
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Post Post #2819 (isolation #239) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 2:57 pm

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I get the vibe you’re a bit frustrated by the reads on you and i think that’s a good start for me to get into your state of mind.
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Post Post #2820 (isolation #240) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:02 pm

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What is your thoughts on Gimli right now? Or anything really. I just want to hear you talking.
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Post Post #2825 (isolation #241) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:04 pm

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I read them Fire, but the only thing that really sticks in my mind is live interaction.
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Post Post #2828 (isolation #242) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:11 pm

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Hmm idk, i feel like your recent page was slightly townie.
One thing though, i think you said you townread me when replacing in but since then you’ve been unsure or something? Can you explain how your read on me has developed from the time you repped in to now?
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Post Post #2831 (isolation #243) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:16 pm

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Speaking of, it’s kinda dull without Shirou here.
I know they are now Lazu Shirou but damn.
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Post Post #2834 (isolation #244) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:23 pm

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Fire do you wanna vote Gimli?
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Post Post #2838 (isolation #245) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:26 pm

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We already knoe Pina is town tho
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Post Post #2840 (isolation #246) » Thu Jan 26, 2023 3:29 pm

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Shirou: "Plz guys, we need to do Furtive/Fire first"

Me: Vote go BRRRR
VOTE: Gimli
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Post Post #2983 (isolation #247) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:36 am

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In post 2977, Lazy Shirou wrote: Norwee i'm starting to consider a bit more wild theories

i'm starting to think you're scum with fire and i need you to vote him with me to prove it wrong

and not unvote when the wagon gets big, we can kill gimli later if that doesn't end the game i pinky promise
If Fire is scum it doesn’t matter if i’m partner with them cus that ends the game. :wink:
(Also i’m not partnered with them in the first place sooo…)
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Post Post #2984 (isolation #248) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:39 am

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Tbh i wanted to vote outside your PoE because i feel like that’s what really throws you off if you are scum.
You HATE it when town don’t do things according to your plan and it leads to a meltdown.
Idk it seems a bit weird to me that you would suddenly stop townreading me when you’ve supposedly done it all game?
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Post Post #2985 (isolation #249) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:46 am

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Like i can vote Fire but i think if they flip town i would lose a lot of reasons to townread you because i think they’ve felt slightly townie later pages and you seem like you really want to rush this lim by associating me as scum with them and basically strongarming the elimination.
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Post Post #3021 (isolation #250) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:06 am

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In the immortal words of a previous game. Maybe Shirou is just crazy.
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Post Post #3028 (isolation #251) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:18 am

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In post 3026, Lazy Shirou wrote:
In post 3023, NorwegianboyEE wrote: In the immortal words of a previous game. Maybe Shirou is just crazy.
how am i crazy when i'm killing both people you wanted

norwee you can't stop scumposting

i was town reading your play earlier in d1 but you feel so disengaged of the game.
What, how am i disengaged of the game. That makes no sense as even an argument right now.
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Post Post #3031 (isolation #252) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:21 am

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I don't think Fire ever endgames anyway, I'm feeling like even if they are town it's an necessary flip so idk why ur pushing this nonsense that i'm a scum partner.
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Post Post #3032 (isolation #253) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:22 am

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Lucian rep out felt kinda scummy tho and Gimli recent posting has been bad, i just prefer this RN.
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Post Post #3036 (isolation #254) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:27 am

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ok let's vote Fire then fuck ur so annoying.
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Post Post #3038 (isolation #255) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:30 am

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Oh sorry, i forgot we're all scum partners. Every single person in the game that doesn't vote Fire is a scum partner.
The whole game is Fire's scum partner.
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Post Post #3042 (isolation #256) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:45 am

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Ok i didn't mean to be that harsh, but still we are 3 eliminations away and you are rushing and calling those that doesn't believe 100% in your solve a scum partner.
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Post Post #3048 (isolation #257) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 4:51 am

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VOTE: Gimli
Let's goo.
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Post Post #3060 (isolation #258) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:04 am

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Sorry Shirou, i feel really bad now reading your recent posts. :(
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Post Post #3061 (isolation #259) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:04 am

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I just get fiercely competitive and immersed in games and very critical of everyone around me, i regret saying it now.
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Post Post #3065 (isolation #260) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:07 am

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At least my developing townreads on Furtive and Fire wasn't wrong. I'm at least happy about my performance this game.
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Post Post #3074 (isolation #261) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:16 am

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This game did have a lot of replacements huh.
Even Shirou replaced out.
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Post Post #3076 (isolation #262) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:19 am

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I wanna read scum PT cus the kill choices were interesting.
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Post Post #3083 (isolation #263) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 5:29 am

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Oh and even better.
This is a scum-sided setup that historically has very low town win%.
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Post Post #3124 (isolation #264) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:06 pm

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Having a independent playing style as scum in White flag seems a bit counterintuitive…
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Post Post #3126 (isolation #265) » Fri Jan 27, 2023 12:09 pm

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Now change to an anime avatar Toto.
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