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I think scum!Harley has more reason to be learned about setups from past experienceIn post 1847, Gimli wrote: You don't think Harley would ever pretend not to know about black spot as scum, for easy townreads?<Embrace The Void>
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I want to say that Eira sniping at us for activity reasons is extremely silly when we have like 50-60 posts left and probably blew through close to twenty with pointless arguments with him.
I still hard tr Mala from play and think she’s pretty easy miselimbait. I also don’t understand the BBT vote.
I’m trying to wrestle with HPE losing motivation when scum is in a really good spot and it’s seeming to phone in most of its posts. And then it votes Mala after saying one of Elements/us needed to be flipped, like why? I guess it had Mala with one of Elements/Us so makes sense but it just looks so lazy. I’m on the fence about Dan but his posting I think looks a lot more natural than HPE.
I just don’t see what scum!Gimli gains by wking us this strongly?
Rn, consider our vote spiritually on HPE but sill consult with Joker first.
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This one honestly CANNOT get a solid read on this erratic play... Do you mind elaborating on this vote for everyone's benefit?
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Picking up prod. when I wake up I guess I'll spend the day pouring over this. that is actually reading HPE / Gimli.
In the meantime.... game advancing post...
I think Bella is scum.
Been harboring this for a while and have had some misgivings just because Bella does seem to be capable of processing topical posts and do have at least some fluidity when making adjustments to their reads as well as being generally responsive but I still think their scum reads overall just don't track well, and are very limiting on what they take into account. For Std its tone (before they read his posts as town), for me its activity/impact or... this?
For Flea and Passenger it seems to be the content of one post a piece and in each case the justification for the scum read is in Flea's case weak, in Passenger's nonexistent.In post 1108, Bellaphant wrote: So it's even weirder that action Dan's top scum reads are in people who didn't make an impact day one, and let's the people who should've made an impact a town pass?!?
Similarly, and considering Bella seems to have had time to have a decent grasp of the game, it does (or did not) appear that Bella considered either Gimli / HPE wagons appealing and has devoted some time to ask people to case HPE railing against the wagon. Meanwhile I would expect more of a push unto Me/Flea instead of being more content to simply list us as scumreads from the sidelines. Of course that might require actually reading our posts for content which either Bella does or chooses not to investigate overmuch.
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I've been asking for a full reads list since 1254 and this is the best you can come up with, LurkerDan?In post 1855, ActionDan wrote: Picking up prod. when I wake up I guess I'll spend the day pouring over this. that is actually reading HPE / Gimli.
In the meantime.... game advancing post...
I think Bella is scum.
Been harboring this for a while and have had some misgivings just because Bella does seem to be capable of processing topical posts and do have at least some fluidity when making adjustments to their reads as well as being generally responsive but I still think their scum reads overall just don't track well, and are very limiting on what they take into account. For Std its tone (before they read his posts as town), for me its activity/impact or... this?
For Flea and Passenger it seems to be the content of one post a piece and in each case the justification for the scum read is in Flea's case weak, in Passenger's nonexistent.In post 1108, Bellaphant wrote: So it's even weirder that action Dan's top scum reads are in people who didn't make an impact day one, and let's the people who should've made an impact a town pass?!?
Similarly, and considering Bella seems to have had time to have a decent grasp of the game, it does (or did not) appear that Bella considered either Gimli / HPE wagons appealing and has devoted some time to ask people to case HPE railing against the wagon. Meanwhile I would expect more of a push unto Me/Flea instead of being more content to simply list us as scumreads from the sidelines. Of course that might require actually reading our posts for content which either Bella does or chooses not to investigate overmuch.
VOTE: Bella
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I agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
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This just isn't happening today, pick someone that actually might get excitedIn post 1855, ActionDan wrote: Picking up prod. when I wake up I guess I'll spend the day pouring over this. that is actually reading HPE / Gimli.
In the meantime.... game advancing post...
I think Bella is scum.
Been harboring this for a while and have had some misgivings just because Bella does seem to be capable of processing topical posts and do have at least some fluidity when making adjustments to their reads as well as being generally responsive but I still think their scum reads overall just don't track well, and are very limiting on what they take into account. For Std its tone (before they read his posts as town), for me its activity/impact or... this?
For Flea and Passenger it seems to be the content of one post a piece and in each case the justification for the scum read is in Flea's case weak, in Passenger's nonexistent.In post 1108, Bellaphant wrote: So it's even weirder that action Dan's top scum reads are in people who didn't make an impact day one, and let's the people who should've made an impact a town pass?!?
Similarly, and considering Bella seems to have had time to have a decent grasp of the game, it does (or did not) appear that Bella considered either Gimli / HPE wagons appealing and has devoted some time to ask people to case HPE railing against the wagon. Meanwhile I would expect more of a push unto Me/Flea instead of being more content to simply list us as scumreads from the sidelines. Of course that might require actually reading our posts for content which either Bella does or chooses not to investigate overmuch.
VOTE: BellaI agree with everything Elements is posting - Papa Zito
It's scummy as fak tho - Gamma Emerald
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.....the scum team can't be this deflated? Surely? Gimli comes in with 'the game is too hard', hpe comes in with a vote for mala and action Dan comes in with omgus? Really?
Ive made it clear that I was tr-ing hpe but now am not and I can't get a read on gimli, which is often a red flag.- Bellaphant
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How is me voting you not a push? I'm not scum reading flea massively. STD I knew was flippibg town, the wagom was garbage and I pushed against it and got ignored. In fact, you can see my read progression on enchant and std about 'tone' and content in thread.
Everything you wrote is basically bullshit. I've not seen a push that has against me in ages.- BlueBloodedToffee
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Bella, vote HPE?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- Bellaphant
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I still want literally anyone to give me threw bullet points of why- Gimli
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Re: what's the HPE scumcase. I feel she is very hedgy throughout the game, never taking a hard stance, using a lot of words to describe events but not turning them into much of anything. This post I'm quoting below is an example of this attitude:
"Kinda" decent, "kinda" wacky, "groanworthy". I feel there is quite a bit of flourishing and not enough scumhunting. Also saying joker's case isn't very good "anymore" feels more like checking the game's temperature wrt how people are evaluating joker's case, rather than evaluating joker's case by itself. I think her d2 has been bad. Also out of all the players in the game, HPE is the one giving me less reasons for a townread, especially after last night's reread of early pages when I began to townread elements' early treatment of STD.In post 283, HighPrincessErinys wrote: Ouuuuuh this was a lot. After reading from 117, this one's main thoughts are: Joker had a half-decent case against StD early on, but that's since kinda crumbled. His tone is kinda wacky and his points against Elements, Flea, and StD have all gotten out of whack, but it honestly... doesn't scumread him all that much. It feels like town misplaying rather than scum shitpushing from what it knows firsthand of his meta. Some of Harley's later posts (i.e. 265 immediately under Flea stating that faer not ignoring her at all and 267 saying NO YOU TOTALLY ARE IGNORING ME) feelbadthough.
That being said! StD doesn't look so good either even if Joker's case isn't quite so good anymore. His ISO is very dodgy in general but in particular 231 is just groanworthy. Scumlean here, and can't help but feel his reactions and posts have built a more convincing case against himself than the logic Joker was levying.
Going to say that this one also somewhat strongly townreads Flea, this one likes faer posts and points quite a bit.
That this one didn't like Elements' ISO very much, and still doesn't. Scumlean on Elements.In post 128, Flea The Magician wrote:
WhatIn post 123, HighPrincessErinys wrote:
Forgot to say and you reminded this one; hi Bella!In post 107, Bellaphant wrote:Theres strong crossovers in this list to the frog/eira game recently, so I'm going to try to keep open minded to hpe and elements.
Half unrelated: Explanations on these votes would be nice, especially when it can kind of see the Elements vote but would like more thoughts from others.
doyou see?
So I'm keeping my vote there.- BlueBloodedToffee
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You're not town reading her? Why do you need reasons?In post 1862, Bellaphant wrote: I still want literally anyone to give me threw bullet points of whyMeta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- furtiveglance
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In post 1743, Aisa wrote:General note to please respect other users' preferred pronouns. If you need to review them, the "isolate users" button at the bottom of every page has a nice convenient summary.Bumping this- Gimli
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I'm really sorry idk what's wrong with me. I know hpe is an it. Sorry hpe.In post 1865, furtiveglance wrote:In post 1743, Aisa wrote:General note to please respect other users' preferred pronouns. If you need to review them, the "isolate users" button at the bottom of every page has a nice convenient summary.Bumping this- BlueBloodedToffee
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I'm the worst for pronouns. I'm just gonna start using people's users because am sick of the messages about this.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- Bellaphant
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Why would I ever want to understand others' motives in a game of mafia bbt? C'mon, stop being evasive.- BlueBloodedToffee
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You don't need to understand others' motives.
You need to decide for yourself if HPE is worth voting or not. Why do you need coercing?Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- ActionDan
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I'm Isoing Gimli / HPE atm.In post 1858, Elements wrote: This just isn't happening today, pick someone that actually might get excited
Yes. My readslists isn't worth much since I haven't spent the time commitment to get solid reads regardless of category. I will at least say I think BBT, RR, Eira have risen for me into solidly town status and Mala/Flea are basically there. Yesterday I would have said the same of Gimli and HPE and yourself.In post 1856, Killing Joke wrote: I've been asking for a full reads list since 1254 and this is the best you can come up with, LurkerDan?
I remember asking specifically what posts you found that were towny of StD which you never pointed out. In your iso you make reference to one only. As far as your push on me goes its not particularly timely nor comprehensive especially since you thought StD wagon was garbage and the majority of my content was scumreading him.In post 1860, Bellaphant wrote: STD I knew was flipping town, the wagon was garbage and I pushed against it and got ignored.I'll give you a moment to let that sink in- BlueBloodedToffee
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People need to explain the town reads on Eira to me.Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.- Killing Joke
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What changed since yesterday other than we were double soft inno’d?In post 1870, ActionDan wrote:
I'm Isoing Gimli / HPE atm.In post 1858, Elements wrote: This just isn't happening today, pick someone that actually might get excited
Yes. My readslists isn't worth much since I haven't spent the time commitment to get solid reads regardless of category. I will at least say I think BBT, RR, Eira have risen for me into solidly town status and Mala/Flea are basically there. Yesterday I would have said the same of Gimli and HPE and yourself.In post 1856, Killing Joke wrote: I've been asking for a full reads list since 1254 and this is the best you can come up with, LurkerDan?
I remember asking specifically what posts you found that were towny of StD which you never pointed out. In your iso you make reference to one only. As far as your push on me goes its not particularly timely nor comprehensive especially since you thought StD wagon was garbage and the majority of my content was scumreading him.In post 1860, Bellaphant wrote: STD I knew was flipping town, the wagon was garbage and I pushed against it and got ignored.
What’s do you think is his agenda with what he’s doing? He’s all over the place and he did this similar kind of flipflopping in Nobility as well.In post 1871, BlueBloodedToffee wrote: People need to explain the town reads on Eira to me.
I’m not terribly impressed with Dan catchup particularly that weird vote on Bella, so I think our vote is between HPE and Dan today.
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