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Post Post #175 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:05 am

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Surely
this is a legitimate claim. I feel like Herta is reproducing the ?confusion? of having an odd role very well - seems like it would be hard to reproduce if it were a fake claim.

Herta, have you thought about asking the mod to clarify how your role works?
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Post Post #176 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:07 am

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Wait I'm dumb lol, I literally asked Meg yesterday? the day before? I believe my interpretation of how Universal Miller works is the correct one.

Why are you voting Fuyuhiko, Herta?
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Post Post #177 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:09 am

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In post 176, Aisa wrote: Wait I'm dumb lol, I literally asked Meg yesterday? the day before? I believe my interpretation of how Universal Miller works is the correct one.

Why are you voting Fuyuhiko, Herta?
A combination of no content and a stuck game that needs to move on.
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Post Post #178 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:09 am

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Join me as we wagon someone for little reason.
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Post Post #179 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:11 am

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Kiinda working on a Lich case, but I'll think about it after I'm done writing that
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Post Post #180 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:14 am

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Spicy take.
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Post Post #181 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:33 am

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Here is why I think we should wagon Lich:
- The change of read on Marashu (compare 1a-1b to 2)
--- Their explanation doesn't convince me. Just matches my model of how scum who gets caught on an inconsistency reacts.
- Their explanation for why they felt backed into overconfidence wasn't actually an explanation, they just sort of... restated when they felt backed into overconfidence.
- The lead rist just seems kinda strange in general. 1. why say that you need Fuyuhiko to post given several other slots also haven't posted much of note, and given you proceed to throw a nullbin on all these other slots anyway? 2.
- Kokichi's posts feel like they have ulterior motives? That's kind of vague. What are the ulterior motives?

Would love to hear any thoughts or see anyone jumping on the wagon :star_struck:
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Post Post #182 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:37 am

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I kinda wanna stick with Lich as there's more actually scummy stuff there. I'll give you, Herta, that Fuyuhiko could be posting more, and I don't think the post where they ask you why you didn't claim looks amazingly aware of the game. And lurking is always a bit scummy, imo. But, who knows.
In post 165, Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu wrote: Hi I’m incredibly lost, what’s going on?
You could try reading my case on TemporalLich above and tell me what you think :]
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Post Post #183 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:38 am

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In post 182, Aisa wrote: But, who knows*.
*maybe they're just struggling to get into the game.
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Post Post #184 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 10:39 am

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In post 167, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 160, Gimli wrote: I'm also feeling uneasy by kokichi but I'll try to re-read parts of the game and see if I can write some words about it. I thought it was peculiar that kokichi decided to position in my favour when herta scumread me for asking about the setup, but he didn't push herta for it or anything, so it seemed like just posturing which may or may not be uncharacteristic for kokichi.
I don't feel like what Herta has done was worse than what Lich has done so far overall and I'm not voting them yet either. I just want to point out observations objectively. W-Why are you being so mean to me?

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Post Post #185 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:13 pm

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I've been lurking but the game is stalled so my vote on Kokichi stands (better to actually vote scum than to sheep if time pressure is clearly not a factor)
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Post Post #186 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:21 pm

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Also Kokichi clearly wants a mislim or at least to cause confrusion
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Post Post #187 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:22 pm

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In post 174, Herta wrote: VOTE: Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu

Let's play mafia.
Would you mind actually answering my question, or giving a reason for not doing so?
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Post Post #188 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:24 pm

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VOTE: fuyuhiko
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Post Post #189 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:26 pm

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In post 37, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 36, Enchant wrote: Quick Introduce on what the fuck we can have:
True Groupscum List:

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Dark Creatures
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Starkin
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Conspirators
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Doom Seekers
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Benign Groupscum List:

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Pirates Info

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Amoeboids
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Zombies
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Guardians
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Consortium
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Card Sharks
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Final Curtain
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Vampire
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Demon
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Fiend
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Dictator
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Sidekick
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Hermit
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This feels annoyed; am I wrong?
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Post Post #190 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:28 pm

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Yeah that response from Fuyuhiko was scummy, Herta already shared the useful info anyway as it would have just gave scum a heads up

pedit: I can't dispute that
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Post Post #191 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:29 pm

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In post 52, Aisa wrote: I think the value of a massclaim would depend to a large extent on the tradeoff between {telling scum who to kill / roleblock / mess with} and {better night action coordination / information / locking scum into a lie}, it seems very very dependent on the exact setup we have. Seems like it ultimately comes down to player preference and my preference is to not do it, but this is a democracy. I guess that if we mess up worst case we could still attempt to Mountainous the setup.

On a semi-related note, I can't think of a super obvious reason for why Herta shouldn't full claim, I don't think not knowing the exact flavour of miller will cause scum to slip or anything like that.
Why did you think this, and also, why are you trying to act like my question is off when you said this?
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Post Post #192 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:30 pm

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VOTE: Fuyuhiko Kuzuryu

Scummy push, scum mindset
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Post Post #193 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:35 pm

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In post 69, TemporalLich wrote: I got backed into overconfidence and backing down would be scummy
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this feels exceptionally self-conscious for this stage of the game.
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Post Post #194 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:39 pm

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In post 70, Kokichi Oma wrote: You sure are worried about looking scummy
In post 71, TemporalLich wrote: yeah I guess but I should meme more



VOTE: Enchant

Devoid of content, but we are still apparently in RVS
In post 72, Kokichi Oma wrote: Then lets make things interesting so we don't go back to RVS

VOTE: TemporalLich
In post 73, TemporalLich wrote: scummy push
VOTE: TemporalLich
Yeah between questionable engagement of Herta and this, TL feels like he was trying to play extremely sloppily and is now showing a surprised Pikachu face.
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Post Post #195 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:40 pm

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Yeah you're not exactly helping your case
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Post Post #196 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:40 pm

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In post 74, TemporalLich wrote: my vote is obviously not an RVS vote but a pressure vote as Herta's gambit is way too risky for scum
why are you pressuring someone you don't think is scum, then
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Post Post #197 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:41 pm

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Not answering questions from obvious scum
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Post Post #198 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:41 pm

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In post 195, TemporalLich wrote: Yeah you're not exactly helping your case
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Post Post #199 (ISO) » Sun Jan 29, 2023 1:42 pm

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In post 181, Aisa wrote: Here is why I think we should wagon Lich:
- The change of read on Marashu (compare 1a-1b to 2)
--- Their explanation doesn't convince me. Just matches my model of how scum who gets caught on an inconsistency reacts.
- Their explanation for why they felt backed into overconfidence wasn't actually an explanation, they just sort of... restated when they felt backed into overconfidence.
- The lead rist just seems kinda strange in general. 1. why say that you need Fuyuhiko to post given several other slots also haven't posted much of note, and given you proceed to throw a nullbin on all these other slots anyway? 2.
- Kokichi's posts feel like they have ulterior motives? That's kind of vague. What are the ulterior motives?

Would love to hear any thoughts or see anyone jumping on the wagon :star_struck:
I think it's too early for lich to be messing up their own reads like that instead of just feeling something different the second time they try to form reads on a player. you are getting people in that wagon alright, I'm just not sure they're town
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